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Ca$H
11-25-2013, 02:55 PM
I'm a Kobe stan and I'm appalled by his actions. Dude just basically announced that he wants to get paid and chuck up shots to challenge for the all time scoring title. He doesn't care about winning anymore. If he did then he would have pulled a Tim Duncan.

Jameerthefear
11-25-2013, 02:57 PM
http://i.imgur.com/BkvoJ87.gif

alec613
11-25-2013, 02:57 PM
I'm a Kobe stan and I'm appalled by his actions. Dude just basically announced that he wants to get paid and chuck up shots to challenge for the all time scoring title. He doesn't care about winning anymore. If he did then he would have pulled a Tim Duncan.

Shut up!

Lakers offered that contract. They're to blame

Teanett
11-25-2013, 02:58 PM
I'm a Kobe stan and I'm appalled by his actions. Dude just basically announced that he wants to get paid and chuck up shots to challenge for the all time scoring title. He doesn't care about winning anymore. If he did then he would have pulled a Tim Duncan.

try to lose your virginity first

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
11-25-2013, 03:01 PM
I'm a Kobe stan and I'm appalled by his actions. Dude just basically announced that he wants to get paid and chuck up shots to challenge for the all time scoring title. He doesn't care about winning anymore. If he did then he would have pulled a Tim Duncan.

recently Lebron said he should be paid 50mil/yr and I totally agree with him.

if there is 1 guy who demands that money or more is Kobe

Be happy he still thinks that he can win a chip with him as the main guy..


would you take anything less then what the market is giving you? its easy to freaking say it....dont give me the bullish!t of he has made so much....

grow up...every dollar...every qtr...every dime...every penny counts

OJ SIMPSON 2.0
11-25-2013, 03:04 PM
Really??? You're appalled by Kobe!!?? If anything I admire him more right now than I ever did before. He chose to stick it out on a team that has Xavier Henry, Shawn Williams, Wesley Johnson, and a bunch of other scrubs nobody cares about. Just shows his love and dedication to the Lakers and his desire to bring the franchise he loves dearly another title. He could have done a Lebron and joined 2 other superstars to chase a championship but he's remained loyal to the Laker once again willing to work his @ss off and carry a bunch of nobody scrubs to another championship. What a great guy :cry:

Rysio
11-25-2013, 03:13 PM
me too, he took a 10 mill a year pay cut because he isnt confident enough in his own abilities to carry this team once again to a championship like he carried them to 5 before.

Jameerthefear
11-25-2013, 03:16 PM
Really??? You're appalled by Kobe!!?? If anything I admire him more right now than I ever did before. He chose to stick it out on a team that has Xavier Henry, Shawn Williams, Wesley Johnson, and a bunch of other scrubs nobody cares about. Just shows his love and dedication to the Lakers and his desire to bring the franchise he loves dearly another title. He could have done a Lebron and joined 2 other superstars to chase a championship but he's remained loyal to the Laker once again willing to work his @ss off and carry a bunch of nobody scrubs to another championship. What a great guy :cry:
^^ lol. stupidity.

bluechox2
11-25-2013, 03:17 PM
u shud lose respect for the lakers

PizzamanIRL
11-25-2013, 03:18 PM
I'm a Kobe stan and I'm appalled by his actions. Dude just basically announced that he wants to get paid and chuck up shots to challenge for the all time scoring title. He doesn't care about winning anymore. If he did then he would have pulled a Tim Duncan.

Apt username, Mr. Ca$H.

fiddy
11-25-2013, 03:22 PM
http://i.imgur.com/BkvoJ87.gif
4-9

cos88
11-25-2013, 03:25 PM
don't forget he is also a rapist.

Jameerthefear
11-25-2013, 03:26 PM
4-9
Wiggins, Parker, and Randle bud. Do you guys even own your pick for this year?
http://i.imgur.com/BkvoJ87.gif

fiddy
11-25-2013, 03:28 PM
Wiggins, Parker, and Randle bud. Do you guys even own your pick for this year?
http://i.imgur.com/BkvoJ87.gif
Yes. And your team is not even good enough at sucking so they wont get anywhere near top5 in the lottery.

BlackWhiteGreen
11-25-2013, 03:28 PM
Really??? You're appalled by Kobe!!?? If anything I admire him more right now than I ever did before. He chose to stick it out on a team that has Xavier Henry, Shawn Williams, Wesley Johnson, and a bunch of other scrubs nobody cares about. Just shows his love and dedication to the Lakers and his desire to bring the franchise he loves dearly another title. He could have done a Lebron and joined 2 other superstars to chase a championship but he's remained loyal to the Laker once again willing to work his @ss off and carry a bunch of nobody scrubs to another championship. What a great guy :cry:

Wow

Goldrush25
11-25-2013, 03:28 PM
Really??? You're appalled by Kobe!!?? If anything I admire him more right now than I ever did before. He chose to stick it out on a team that has Xavier Henry, Shawn Williams, Wesley Johnson, and a bunch of other scrubs nobody cares about. Just shows his love and dedication to the Lakers and his desire to bring the franchise he loves dearly another title. He could have done a Lebron and joined 2 other superstars to chase a championship but he's remained loyal to the Laker once again willing to work his @ss off and carry a bunch of nobody scrubs to another championship. What a great guy :cry:

Well his primary desire is not to win a championship. It is to get every last nickel that he can. That's fine with me, and I'd probably do the same thing. But let's call a spade a spade. He wanted the money first and foremost. I'm sure he'd like to do both, but when given a chance to prioritize, he took the money.

The responsibility for this bad contract is on the Lakers, not Kobe. He's just the guy that's doing what anyone else would do.

Magic 32
11-25-2013, 03:28 PM
don't forget he is also a rapist.


If you say so Travis.

Jameerthefear
11-25-2013, 03:29 PM
Yes. And your team is not even good enough at sucking so they wont get anywhere near top5 in the lottery.
Your team is paying almost 50 mil in the next 2 years for an over the hill SG. Have fun in mediocrity while the Magic are improving.
http://i.imgur.com/BkvoJ87.gif

LakersDaBEst
11-25-2013, 03:29 PM
Kobe doesnt need ur respect!

Ca$H
11-25-2013, 03:33 PM
u shud lose respect for the lakers

This is impossible since I already had no respect for Jim Buss.

fiddy
11-25-2013, 03:47 PM
Your team is paying almost 50 mil in the next 2 years for an over the hill SG. Have fun in mediocrity while the Magic are improving.
http://i.imgur.com/BkvoJ87.gif
Lakers as an organization will make much more than the 50mil. We still have room for another max contract + role players. Magic improve? As soon as your best players have the opportunity to ditch disneyland they will do so, like tmac and d12 did.

Jameerthefear
11-25-2013, 03:51 PM
Lakers as an organization will make much more than the 50mil. We still have room for another max contract + role players. Magic improve? As soon as your best players have the opportunity to ditch disneyland they will do so, like tmac and d12 did.
role players? you mean scrubs? and who the hell wants to go play on LA? Nobody.

SyRyanYang
11-25-2013, 04:00 PM
role players? you mean scrubs? and who the hell wants to go play on LA? Nobody.

Shaq left your organization to join the Lakers and went on to win 3 chips with Kobe. You sure you want to use his gif to take a shot at ths Lakers?
Even Kobe has a better shot selection.

russwest0
11-25-2013, 04:04 PM
Wiggins, Parker, and Randle bud. Do you guys even own your pick for this year?
http://i.imgur.com/BkvoJ87.gif

WTF you talking about draft lottery bro, yall a playoff team in the East, even with dat shitty record :lol :lol :lol

Rooster
11-25-2013, 04:04 PM
role players? you mean scrubs? and who the hell wants to go play on LA? Nobody.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Ca$H
11-25-2013, 04:06 PM
Shaq left your organization to join the Lakers and went on to win 3 chips with Kobe. You sure you want to use his gif to take a shot at ths Lakers?
Even Kobe has a better shot selection.

he probably wasn't born yet when Shaq was on the magic.

Jameerthefear
11-25-2013, 04:07 PM
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Admit it. Where LA is right now who would want to play for them? Carmelo wouldn't (D'antoni), and Kevin Love's team is better than LA right now.

Rooster
11-25-2013, 04:27 PM
Admit it. Where LA is right now who would want to play for them? Carmelo wouldn't (D'antoni), and Kevin Love's team is better than LA right now.

Who knows what will happen with DAntoni after this year? But saying players does not want to play for the Lakers is rubbish. Look at the history and look all the past players, most of them bleed purple and gold after their career is done. Just because Dwight took the road less traveled means players follow the same path. Being in LA and playing for the Lakers will always be attractive for most players.

KNOW1EDGE
11-25-2013, 04:35 PM
Who knows what will happen with DAntoni after this year? But saying players does not want to play for the Lakers is rubbish. Look at the history and look all the past players, most of them bleed purple and gold after their career is done. Just because Dwight took the road less traveled means players follow the same path. Being in LA and playing for the Clippers will always be attractive for most players.

Players want to win. They dont care about the Lakers.

Players signed with the Lakers cuz it gave them a chance to win a chip, if the Lakers dont have a championship roster the big time free agents are not going to sign there. Nobody will sign with the Lakers just cuz their history. lol

The Clippers are quite obviously the top tier free agency destination in LA, and thats not going to change any time soon.

gts
11-25-2013, 04:40 PM
role players? you mean scrubs? and who the hell wants to go play on LA? Nobody.

You should stick to making it rain at Chuck E Cheeses and posting cartoons of prepubescent girls

outbreak
11-25-2013, 04:41 PM
did anyone honestly think Kobe would sign for a cheap deal? He's a throwback to the days when the best player on a team had to have the highest salary or he was being disrespected. That sort of mentality is part of what helped him become such a great player but it's also a flaw in situations like this. Jordan had the same thing, it helped him a lot on the court but off the court it messed up parts of his life.

Mr. Jabbar
11-25-2013, 04:45 PM
why would kobe lower his salary even more given he's still head and shoulders above everyone else on the team, not like the dude needs to stack the team and win an asterisk* ring that would add nothing to his resume

crisoner
11-25-2013, 04:46 PM
try to lose your virginity first
Lol

Rooster
11-25-2013, 04:51 PM
Players want to win. They dont care about the Lakers.

Players signed with the Lakers cuz it gave them a chance to win a chip, if the Lakers dont have a championship roster the big time free agents are not going to sign there. Nobody will sign with the Lakers just cuz their history. lol

The Clippers are quite obviously the top tier free agency destination in LA, and thats not going to change any time soon.

I can't dispute that players wants to win but they also wants to get paid which is often the bottom line. Case in point if Clippers offers Melo the MLE and Lakers offers the max, which one do you think Melo will take. Winning the ring is never guaranteed but the cheddar is. If there were no salary cap and luxury tax, I'm sure Lakers will always get players.

Eric Cartman
11-25-2013, 04:53 PM
Would you trade respect from your fans for 48 million dollars?

MavsSuperFan
11-25-2013, 05:13 PM
I have gained respect for kobe.

I have lost respect for the lakers.

SillyRabbit
11-25-2013, 06:06 PM
I blame the Laker's front office more than I blame Kobe.

They OFFERED him this contract.

All he did is accept it.

If he DEMANDED this amount of money, they should've learned how to negotiate, or traded him for a futures package to start the rebuild.

The FO completely handicapped the Lakers for the next few years and displayed that they don't care as much about winning as they do about making money (Kobe is money in the bank for the franchise regardless of if they win or lose).

Soundwave
11-25-2013, 06:10 PM
He knows there's a high chance Vanessa will try to divorce him again in the next 10 years. And in that case she can easily take half of his worth.

Gotta be prepared. Lakers are basically paying for a potential future divorce settlement. :lol

JM720
11-25-2013, 06:10 PM
Hasnt kobe made comments in past about him not taking pay cuts and it not being his job to take one. Dont know why this is surprising to some.

DMAVS41
11-25-2013, 06:33 PM
Wow...just...wow.

I'm stunned.

So I guess the Lakers have decided not to compete for titles? This is really surprising...does that amount count fully against the cap? Please tell me no.

NumberSix
11-25-2013, 06:53 PM
Don't blame the man for taking it. Blame the idiots who offered it.

joeyjoejoe
11-25-2013, 09:15 PM
He was never takin a paycut, he's already got rings but not scoring title

lakerspng
11-25-2013, 09:22 PM
why are people such reactionary naysayers?

nothing wrong with the contract. Obviously the injury is the only question mark and considering the Lakers offer, I'm sure they feel confident and know more about Kobe's progress than any of us. 2-3 years from now Kobe will still be putting up 22/6/5 and considering his past with the team and impact for the team on the court and off the court, he'll more than earn his 23.5 / 25 million for the next 2 years respectively. For that money they'll guarantee to sell out every game, be near the top in jersey sales and placate their huge tv contract holders... and those all play a huge role in the decision.

Basketball is a business. Kobe's good for Lakers business. How people don't get that I don't understand.

Lakers will be competitive, make tons of money and Kobe will have a shot for his 6th ring along with having been with one franchise for 20 years.

Happy the Lakers did this. He'll earn it, I've no doubt.

Hate on haters.

lakerspng
11-25-2013, 09:23 PM
He was never takin a paycut, he's already got rings but not scoring title

He did take a pay cut. a max contract would be 10 million more per year based on his current salary.

coin24
11-25-2013, 09:27 PM
Who wants to work for less money?? Do some of you morons forget this is a business and its Kobes job???
He makes the Lakers billions of dollars he is worth every cent.

How many of you would take a 50% paycut to help out your employer? Yeah right, so STFU:facepalm


The Lakers still have plenty of cap room theyll be fine, worry about your own teams.

DMAVS41
11-25-2013, 09:28 PM
why are people such reactionary naysayers?

nothing wrong with the contract. Obviously the injury is the only question mark and considering the Lakers offer, I'm sure they feel confident and know more about Kobe's progress than any of us. 2-3 years from now Kobe will still be putting up 22/6/5 and considering his past with the team and impact for the team on the court and off the court, he'll more than earn his 23.5 / 25 million for the next 2 years respectively. For that money they'll guarantee to sell out every game, be near the top in jersey sales and placate their huge tv contract holders... and those all play a huge role in the decision.

Basketball is a business. Kobe's good for Lakers business. How people don't get that I don't understand.

Lakers will be competitive, make tons of money and Kobe will have a shot for his 6th ring along with having been with one franchise for 20 years.

Happy the Lakers did this. He'll earn it, I've no doubt.

Hate on haters.

I'm not hating on Kobe...I just can't believe that is the contract that everyone agreed to because I think it likely prevents them from challenging for the title for those 2 years.

I don't see how they can afford to get Kobe enough help at that number. I hope they can as it's much more fun in the NBA for the Lakers to be good, but I just don't see how it's possible. 23 and 25 million is eating up a lot of that cap.

coin24
11-25-2013, 09:32 PM
I'm not hating on Kobe...I just can't believe that is the contract that everyone agreed to because I think it likely prevents them from challenging for the title for those 2 years.

I don't see how they can afford to get Kobe enough help at that number. I hope they can as it's much more fun in the NBA for the Lakers to be good, but I just don't see how it's possible. 23 and 25 million is eating up a lot of that cap.

Still plenty of cap to play with. Not every team wants 3 max players and then scrubs. Look how well its going in NY etc..

lakerspng
11-25-2013, 09:33 PM
Nash's contract is more of a killer than Kobe's extension, by far.

If the Lakers can get reprieve from Nash's, we have plenty of money to be competitive. That would give us 36 million to play with, possibly sign a player for 16-20 and then 2 for 8-10 each, then resign some of our current guys (we know Lakers mgmt is more than willing to go over the cap if necessary). Pau, Hill, Farmar, Blake, etc... we can put a great team on the floor next year.

We just need to find a way to shed Nash's contract. he's never going to be healthy and able to contribute on a consistent basis again unfortunately :(

Eric Cartman
11-25-2013, 09:35 PM
maybe that was phoenix's plan injured nash signing that contract with the lakers and ****ing them over from the inside

DMAVS41
11-25-2013, 09:39 PM
Still plenty of cap to play with. Not every team wants 3 max players and then scrubs. Look how well its going in NY etc..

Plenty? You have Nash eating up almost 10 million over the next 2 years.

Next year Kobe and Nash make a combined 33.2 million.

They have to go superstars with that. They need to land a big fish...just filling out the roster with solid players won't cut it with teams like the Clippers and Thunder over the next few years in the West...

coin24
11-25-2013, 09:40 PM
Nash's contract is more of a killer than Kobe's extension, by far.

If the Lakers can get reprieve from Nash's, we have plenty of money to be competitive. That would give us 36 million to play with, possibly sign a player for 16-20 and then 2 for 8-10 each, then resign some of our current guys (we know Lakers mgmt is more than willing to go over the cap if necessary). Pau, Hill, Farmar, Blake, etc... we can put a great team on the floor next year.

We just need to find a way to shed Nash's contract. he's never going to be healthy and able to contribute on a consistent basis again unfortunately :(


This:applause:
I think Nash will retire after this year hes done..

Originally i wanted Dantoni gone but hes been playing Hill and the team actually looks half decent at the moment. Especially now theres younger guys that can run and actual 3 point shooters..

Pointguard
11-25-2013, 09:44 PM
Still plenty of cap to play with. Not every team wants 3 max players and then scrubs. Look how well its going in NY etc..

Coin, are Kobe and Nash the only players under contract next year or is that they year after?

MMM
11-25-2013, 09:54 PM
Nash's contract is more of a killer than Kobe's extension, by far.

If the Lakers can get reprieve from Nash's, we have plenty of money to be competitive. That would give us 36 million to play with, possibly sign a player for 16-20 and then 2 for 8-10 each, then resign some of our current guys (we know Lakers mgmt is more than willing to go over the cap if necessary). Pau, Hill, Farmar, Blake, etc... we can put a great team on the floor next year.

We just need to find a way to shed Nash's contract. he's never going to be healthy and able to contribute on a consistent basis again unfortunately :(

There will be cap holds in place and if the Lakers are using their cap to resign their own FAs than there won't be much left to sign a big name target. The Lakers would have to renounce rights to use the Cap #s your talking about and probably won't have the necessary cap exceptions to go that much over the Cap.

coin24
11-25-2013, 09:57 PM
Coin, are Kobe and Nash the only players under contract next year or is that they year after?

I think thats next season yeah, hopefully Nash isnt coming back though he needs to retire..

BlazerRed
11-25-2013, 10:06 PM
I'm kind of bummed about this. I thought Kobe was all about winning, but this, paired with the already terrible contact the Lakes have in Nash really hamstrings his team. Surely he could have taken a little less. Sure, he's worth the 25mil in a business sense, but in terms of what that means to salary cap and the team's chances of winning he's not worth near that.. Especially considering we haven't seen him play since his injury.

okayabc123
11-25-2013, 11:19 PM
honestly, who could Lakers lure in the next two years that will seriously put Lakers over the top against all other NBA teams like Wade/Lebron/Bosh. Absolutely no one. Melo ain't leaving NY with more than $120 million on the line. Lebron will never be a player that Lakers want to attract, no fan base, and plus, why would Lebron split the limelight with Kobe.

No to Durant, Paul George, Westbrook. Love is not proven winner yet. Rondo is coming off a major injury. Aldridge isn't a dominating player in the post.

I mean in terms of two years of who might be able to come to the Lakers, no player comes to mind where you can build for the long haul and also win within the next 2 years with Kobe.

Lakers are better off giving Kobe the money and show how far they are willing to take care of their own and give Kobe the right farewell tour. It will bring in fan money, and knowing Kobe, he is still going to give his best to entertain and bring in value to the Lakers org. I mean it's a win-win situation for Lakers and Kobe.

gts
11-25-2013, 11:33 PM
I'm not hating on Kobe...I just can't believe that is the contract that everyone agreed to because I think it likely prevents them from challenging for the title for those 2 years.

I don't see how they can afford to get Kobe enough help at that number. I hope they can as it's much more fun in the NBA for the Lakers to be good, but I just don't see how it's possible. 23 and 25 million is eating up a lot of that cap.


Kobe's a highly competitive person, winning is his number one priority if he didn't have faith in the Lakers putting together a team he wouldn't have signed the contract.

gts
11-25-2013, 11:35 PM
Coin, are Kobe and Nash the only players under contract next year or is that they year after?

2014 Nash and Kobe, 2015 Kobe, there's somebody else who's a team option but he's making 500k or something, I forget who it is

AintNoSunshine
11-25-2013, 11:59 PM
:banana: We are guaranteed to have trash talking materials for the next couple of years now that Kobe helped made sure the Lakers won't be going anywhere further than a first round exit:roll: