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moe94
11-26-2013, 07:53 PM
How did this go from Wiggins > Parker

to

Parker is a better Pierce or an intelligent Melo with defense and passing

and Wiggins is Corey Brewer, at best, realistically Gerald Green

http://www.slamonline.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/WigginsParker_7.jpg

RoundMoundOfReb
11-26-2013, 07:54 PM
Wiggins > Parker as a pro.

ralph_i_el
11-26-2013, 07:57 PM
Wiggins has long arms and is good at running around. I hear he does some jumping too.

Twiens
11-26-2013, 08:01 PM
Parker doesn't/cant play D...

The JKidd Kid
11-26-2013, 08:19 PM
Corey Brewer at best? Now that's just ridiculous. IDK who I would compare him too, but he's gonna be much more than a borderline starter.

moe94
11-26-2013, 08:20 PM
Corey Brewer at best? Now that's just ridiculous. IDK who I would compare him too, but he's gonna be much more than a borderline starter.

I heard T-Mac a lot, by his supporters.

The_Yearning
11-26-2013, 08:36 PM
Jabari Parker needs to lose some of the fat and get more leaner/more muscle. Dude got flabby arms mang.

HylianNightmare
11-26-2013, 08:43 PM
they played college basketball

DStebb716
11-26-2013, 09:39 PM
Wiggins will be somewhat of a Pippen and T-Mac mix. Not completely because that would probably make him the best ever, but he'll show flashes of being both types.

Parker does look like a smarter Melo, but I think Melo will be the better defender when compared at the end of their careers (even tho Melo gets a lot of slack for his defense).

The JKidd Kid
11-26-2013, 10:19 PM
I heard T-Mac a lot, by his supporters.

He's much more likely to be TMac than ****ing Corey Brewer. It's insulting to even pretend like Corey Brewer is his ceiling.

FreezingTsmoove
11-26-2013, 10:23 PM
Whats stopping Wiggins from becoming Jordan? Nikka has all the tools necessary to have a game like him and he actually looks bigger at his age than Jordan did

CelticBaller
11-26-2013, 10:23 PM
Parker has always been a Pierce/Melo lite player, Wiggins hasn't just been dominating the College game like many thought

moe94
11-26-2013, 10:24 PM
Parker has always been a Pierce/Melo lite player, Wiggins hasn't just been dominating the College game like many thought
Lite?

They're full on saying he's an upgrade.

CelticBaller
11-26-2013, 10:29 PM
Lite?

They're full on saying he's an upgrade.
The hype is strong, I for one didn't think he would play like straight College Melo on Duke :oldlol:

FreezingTsmoove
11-26-2013, 10:30 PM
Parker has always been a Pierce/Melo lite player, Wiggins hasn't just been dominating the College game like many thought

17 ppg on .585 in college :biggums: Thats amazing

CelticBaller
11-26-2013, 10:35 PM
17 ppg on .585 in college :biggums: Thats amazing
I aint saying that i find his play underwhelming, I still think he's top 2 but cmon, he was labeled as the next big thing

moe94
11-26-2013, 10:44 PM
I aint saying that i find his play underwhelming, I still think he's top 2 but cmon, he was labeled as the next big thing

His team has a lot of weapons, though, but yes, he isn't dominating to a Parker level.

Tking714
11-26-2013, 10:49 PM
As a GM im happy with any of the top 3 picks. Number 4 and 5 pick are most likely Marcus Smart then Aaron Gordon and I'm happy with that as well.

Meticode
11-26-2013, 10:51 PM
I haven't watched much of the players, but between Parker and Wiggins, Parker seems a bit more polished, but Wiggins seems to have a much higher ceiling. Randle comes off as I "safe" pick that you know for sure he's going to produce with his style of play.

NLZ
11-26-2013, 10:59 PM
if Wiggins was American this wouldn't even be a contest.... it's quite clear who has a higher ceiling (and way higher at that).

unbreakable
11-26-2013, 11:00 PM
Wiggins has NO HANDLES and no FEEL for the game..

hes an athletic monster.. but hes basically dwight howard at shooting guard... :confusedshrug:

russwest0
11-26-2013, 11:03 PM
Wiggins is 6'6, he's an athletic 2 guard who is very raw. Also appears to be D-Rose level of socially awkward

Parker on the other hand...

Meticode
11-26-2013, 11:06 PM
Wiggins is 6'6, he's an athletic 2 guard who is very raw. Also appears to be D-Rose level of socially awkward

Parker on the other hand...
Well, from the picture posted that would mean Parker is 6'5" and there's no f*cking way he's 6'5" Wiggins is at least 6'7"

moe94
11-26-2013, 11:06 PM
Wiggins is 6'6, he's an athletic 2 guard who is very raw. Also appears to be D-Rose level of socially awkward

Parker on the other hand...

Except he's a SF and 6'8. Let's not talk directly out of our ass now.

Meticode
11-26-2013, 11:08 PM
Parker would be able to paly either the 2 or 3, but I think he'll end up being a 3 like George. Until last year George was playing the 2 a lot of the time.

Xiao Yao You
11-26-2013, 11:11 PM
Parker would be able to paly either the 2 or 3, but I think he'll end up being a 3 like George. Until last year George was playing the 2 a lot of the time.

Before the year started I read that scouts weren't sure where he'd play but either the 3 or stretch 4 nothing about the 2.

Meticode
11-26-2013, 11:19 PM
Before the year started I read that scouts weren't sure where he'd play but either the 3 or stretch 4 nothing about the 2.
He's got the speed/athelectism to paly the 2. Paul George basically did it for two years as a 6-9/6-10 player.

russwest0
11-26-2013, 11:24 PM
Except he's a SF and 6'8. Let's not talk directly out of our ass now.

He's 6'6.

moe94
11-27-2013, 03:01 PM
He's 6'6.

Is Jabari also 6'6? Yes? Then why use that as a thing against Wiggins while prepping up Parker? Parker is taller than Wiggins? You're just deluded.

veilside23
11-27-2013, 06:21 PM
He's 6'6.


2 years ago :facepalm

are you saying that measurements made by scounts and draft express is not accurate? so what did you use to measure wiggins' and parker's height then?:rolleyes:

CelticBaller
11-27-2013, 06:23 PM
He's 6'6.
then Parker is 6'5

TheReal Kendall
11-27-2013, 06:24 PM
He's 6'6.

Where you getting 6'6 from bro?

Dude like 6'8

I'm sold on Parker being the better player right now but I don't see him playing the 2 in NBA cause he doesn't seem all that fast. I could be wrong though

Purch
11-27-2013, 06:45 PM
how would you guys feel if we had our first co rookies of the year, since Hill and Kidd

Inferno
11-27-2013, 06:48 PM
Why is Randle getting overlooked in these conversations? Dude's averaging like 20/13 on 60% FG :bowdown:

Purch
11-27-2013, 06:52 PM
Why is Randle getting overlooked in these conversations? Dude's averaging like 20/13 on 60% FG :bowdown:
I've been watching him, but I have questions about his length, and his dependece on his left hand. There's very few bigs I've seen who can dominate with being so depedent on one hand, but there are exceptions like Al Jefferson

PP34Deuce
11-27-2013, 08:10 PM
IMO..

Jabari is a bigger Pierce. He plays more like PP in that he doesn't necessarily need to take a lot of shots to produce. I feel Melo has always been a high volume shooter than even a young Pierce. Jabari also looks to have leadership qualities similar to a PP.

Wiggins is an enigma. he could develop a jumper and focus and be a dominant SG alla Wade. I don't think he has the natural handles to be a Kobe, MJ, T Mac level swingmen. He really reminds me of a Demar Derozan with higher ceiling.

Randle will have concerns with his length. I want to see him face bigger( physically) competition and see how he does on athletic 6'10 Forwards. He looks to be about 6'8 and could be a tweener. He will still be a 15-10 player in the NBA though.

I actually like James Young the most on that KY team as a legit SG with star potential.

moe94
11-27-2013, 08:13 PM
I don't think he has the natural handles to be a Kobe, MJ, T Mac level swingmen. He really reminds me of a Demar Derozan with higher ceiling. .

T-Mac was drafted as a defensive specialist, first and foremost.

Also, the Derozan with higher ceiling tag is irksome and insulting. I don't get why people don't flat out say he's just Derozan. What does higher ceiling even mean? That he's more athletic but still garbage?

I think Wiggins is more talented than Derozan ever was or showed to be.

PP34Deuce
11-27-2013, 08:23 PM
T-Mac was drafted as a defensive specialist, first and foremost.

Also, the Derozan with higher ceiling tag is irksome and insulting. I don't get why people don't flat out say he's just Derozan. What does higher ceiling even mean? That he's more athletic but still garbage?

I think Wiggins is more talented than Derozan ever was or showed to be.

Tmac was drafted to be VC's Pippen true, but even at an early age, Tmac had handles and used to lead the fast break throwing oops to VC. I haven't seen Wiggins do that yet.

I haven't seen Wiggins take you off the dribble except for free throw line in with his spin move ( GREAT SPIN MOVE THOUGH)

Wiggins has natural freak athletiscm, and will be drafted on what a coach can attempt to mold him into.

Purch
11-27-2013, 08:23 PM
IMO..

Jabari is a bigger Pierce. He plays more like PP in that he doesn't necessarily need to take a lot of shots to produce. I feel Melo has always been a high volume shooter than even a young Pierce. Jabari also looks to have leadership qualities similar to a PP.

Wiggins is an enigma. he could develop a jumper and focus and be a dominant SG alla Wade. I don't think he has the natural handles to be a Kobe, MJ, T Mac level swingmen. He really reminds me of a Demar Derozan with higher ceiling.

Randle will have concerns with his length. I want to see him face bigger( physically) competition and see how he does on athletic 6'10 Forwards. He looks to be about 6'8 and could be a tweener. He will still be a 15-10 player in the NBA though.

I actually like James Young the most on that KY team as a legit SG with star potential.

My feeling about Parker is that the way he scores the basketball, reminds me of Melo, when it comes to being able to play in the post, using his size, his pull ups, and his large array of moves to score even without elite athletism. However, when you look past his scoring moves the way he approaches the game reminds me of PP/Hill, which is why I always thought he was the best player in his class. I always felt that if Melo had a better approach to the game throughout his career, he would have constantly been a top 5 player. If you take Melo's scoring versitility, and add it to Hill/PP's bb IQ you have a generational talent. That's what I see as Parker's celing

PP34Deuce
11-27-2013, 08:28 PM
My feeling about Parker is that the way he scores the basketball, reminds me of Melo, when it comes to being able to play in the post, using his size, his pull ups, and his large array of moves to score even without elite athletism. However, when you look past his scoring moves the way he approaches the game reminds me of PP/Hill, which is why I always thought he was the best player in his class. I always felt that if Melo had a better approach to the game throughout his career, he would have constantly been a top 5 player. If you take Melo's scoring versitility, and add it to Hill/PP's bb IQ you have a generational talent. That's what I see as Parker's celing

NBA Level strength and conditioning will mold his body better.

I feel I'm the only person who feels after Wiggins, Randle Parker, I would draft James Young in a heart beat. True SG who can D up and has size.

Xiao Yao You
11-27-2013, 09:58 PM
I've been watching him, but I have questions about his length, and his dependece on his left hand. There's very few bigs I've seen who can dominate with being so depedent on one hand, but there are exceptions like Al Jefferson

Jefferson dominates?

Purch
11-27-2013, 10:19 PM
Jefferson dominates?
He's able to consistantly score against Nba defenses, and even double teams, whiles only really using his right hand. That's rare for a post player, that was the point i was making

Vancouver-Grizz
11-27-2013, 10:20 PM
and Wiggins is Corey Brewer, at best, realistically Gerald Green

Trolling Hard

noob cake
11-28-2013, 12:14 AM
Parker is killing Alabama right now

Jameerthefear
11-28-2013, 12:16 AM
Parker is killing Alabama right now
yep. pretty good game. surprised it's this close

BIZARRO
11-28-2013, 03:42 AM
Parker is killing Alabama right now

From tonight:
"He's probably, in my eight years as a head coach, the most talented freshman I've seen just from his size, his physicality and his skill level," Alabama coach Anthony Grant said of Parker. "He's able to make tough shots and free himself for the open shot and he's able to get himself to the free throw line. He's just a really, really talented player.

Jabari Parker was, since SI called him the best high school player since Lebron, and is the best talent in college basketball. Randle is the only one who comes anywhere close. Please stop this Wiggins fascination that has been a media creation. He's just so not what they built him up to be.

Sidenote: Yes, I agree James Young is awesome, think he'll make a great pro.

AirFederer
11-28-2013, 04:21 AM
Whats stopping Wiggins from becoming Jordan? Nikka has all the tools necessary to have a game like him and he actually looks bigger at his age than Jordan did
:lol :no:

OmniStrife
11-28-2013, 04:25 AM
Okay, ISH...

I'll take both

Eric Cartman
11-28-2013, 04:28 AM
Okay, ISH...

I'll take both

Your team is too good no way you get any of the top 5.

Milwaukee, Utah, Cleveland are bout that life doe.

SamuraiSWISH
11-28-2013, 04:31 AM
Wiggins is raw athleticism, Jabari seems more skilled.

plowking
11-28-2013, 04:52 AM
Wiggins, Parker, Exum, Randle, Gordon, Smart, Embiid, Selden, Hood, Harrison twins...

GM's must be licking their lips at this next draft. I'm hoping my Heat can nab a superstar with a 28-30th pick lol... So much talent.

Patrick Chewing
11-28-2013, 06:29 AM
Parker: 9-12 shooting 9-10 from the free throw line

27 points



:bowdown:

Kujo
11-28-2013, 07:13 AM
Wiggins may have more upside, but Parker has franchise player written all over him him. Most impressive freshman since Durant. His offense game is so polished.