As Howard sacrifices minutes for wins, Bryant cripples Lakers

[YouGotServed]

Link (http://rockets.clutchfans.net/5493/dwight-howard-sacrifices-kobe-bryant-cripples-lakers-future/)

[QUOTE]Remember when Dwight Howard was portrayed by so many as the selfish one in Los Angeles?

Ever since leaving the Lakers for the Rockets, numerous national media voices have criticized him for supposedly running from a leadership role and lacking the commitment to win an NBA championship.

Monday offered an interesting contrast on that front. In Memphis, the Rockets (10-5) pulled off a miraculous 93-86 come-from-behind victory, all with Howard not playing one second in the fourth quarter.

Statistics, shot attempts, post-up opportunities

[Bodhi]

Didn't Dwight just complain about minutes a week ago?

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Didn't Dwight just complain about minutes a week ago?
I believe he complained about teammates complaining about minutes.

[Doranku]

:roll: Dude rides the pine all 4th quarter because he's a liability out there on the court with the game on the line and all of a sudden he's "sacrificing minutes for wins".

Meanwhile, Kobe accepts an offer proposed TO him by Lakers management for two whole years and he's "crippling the Lakers future".

Pauk's lion essay deserves publication more than this piece of shit article. Rockets fans are embarrassing.

[Meticode]

Didn't Dwight just complain about minutes a week ago?
He complained that his teammantes need to be more humble and check themselves out of games so rest to finish the last bit of the game veruss playing nearly 40 minutes and gassing themselves out.

[CelticBaller]

I believe he complained about teammates complaining about minutes.
We'll at least he set out an example, can't say that's bad leadership

[longtime lurker]

I must have missed the part where Saint Howard took less money than the max to play for the Rockets.

[Jameerthefear]

Good read.

[b0bab0i]

I must have missed the part where Saint Howard took less money than the max to play for the Rockets.

He still took less money rather than stay with Lakers.

[YouGotServed]

Howard leaves 30M on the table to play for a contender. Kobe signs 48M extension to play for a bottom feeder. :applause: Lead by example Dwight. Lead by example.

[longtime lurker]

He still took less money rather than stay with Lakers.

That's not the same thing as sacrificing for the betterment of his team. He only took less money because the Rockets couldn't pay him as much under the CBA. He still took the max amount of money that he could get from the Rockets. If you're going to criticize Kobe and praise Howard at least compare apples to apples.

[Real Men Wear Green]

[QUOTE]On Monday, Howard practiced what he preached. Though his big-picture numbers were solid with 15 points (6-of-10 FG) and seven rebounds in 27 minutes, he turned it over five times and didn

[Doranku]

Howard leaves 30M on the table to play for a contender. Kobe signs 48M extension to play for a bottom feeder. :applause: Lead by example Dwight. Lead by example.
:roll: @ Rockets being a contender. Holy shit, Rocket fans are unreal.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Howard leaves 30M on the table to play for a contender. Kobe signs 48M extension to play for a bottom feeder. :applause: Lead by example Dwight. Lead by example.

Maybe Dwight should follow Kobes example and learn some post moves

[Droid101]

So somehow Howard getting benched for Asik makes him a great guy because Bryant has a huge contract.
This is your best post.

[coin24]

So somehow Howard getting benched for Asik makes him a great guy because Bryant has a huge contract.

:lol :lol

[gts]

So somehow Howard getting benched for Asik makes him a great guy because Bryant has a huge contract.

Sometimes you wonder how a writer gets from point A to point B

[Nick Young]

Howard sits on the bench in the 4th because him being on the floor hurts his team and he's being praised for leading by example?:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Media is desperate to venerate this loser for some reason.

[Mr Exlax]

I think the Lakers knew that no significant free agent would join Kobe so that's why they paid him this much. It's gonna ring bells for sure. Future free agents will all know that the Lakers take care of their own. This wasn't Kobe's doing.

[Mrofir]

from my perspective, as a fan of neither player, I think they are both really difficult teammates and have acted incredibly selfishly many times throughout their careers.

:confusedshrug:

[longtime lurker]

So somehow Howard getting benched for Asik makes him a great guy because Bryant has a huge contract.

:roll: well said.

[gts]

I think the Lakers knew that no significant free agent would join Kobe so that's why they paid him this much. It's gonna ring bells for sure. Future free agents will all know that the Lakers take care of their own. This wasn't Kobe's doing.I do believe there's a bit of the Lakers thumbing their nose at the new CBA and the other owners involved here.... and as you said it will certainly serve notice with free agents in the future that the Lakers are not afraid of spending money when other teams are squeezing the players while racking in record profits...

You almost wonder if Kobe's tweets last night were part of a larger Laker attack on the NBA and it's owners

[russwest0]

:roll: Dude rides the pine all 4th quarter because he's a liability out there on the court with the game on the line and all of a sudden he's "sacrificing minutes for wins".

Meanwhile, Kobe accepts an offer proposed TO him by Lakers management for two whole years and he's "crippling the Lakers future".

Pauk's lion essay deserves publication more than this piece of shit article. Rockets fans are embarrassing.

LMAO

[Heavincent]

Maybe Dwight should follow Kobes example and learn some post moves


So somehow Howard getting benched for Asik makes him a great guy because Bryant has a huge contract.

Best two posts in the thread.

Article is utterly laughable. I guess Howard being a terrible FT shooter and liability in late game situations makes him a good teammate.

[gts]

Article is utterly laughable. I guess Howard being a terrible FT shooter and liability in late game situations makes him a good teammate.

What do you expect for 20.5 million dollars?

[YouGotServed]

48M but Howard is the selfish one. :yaohappy:

ISH logic at its best.

[chazzy]

What?

[coin24]

48M but Howard is the selfish one. :yaohappy:

ISH logic at its best.


Reading comprehension at its best:applause:

[The Iron Fist]

Kobe by the numbers
Kobe Bryant on Monday signed a two-year, $48.5-million contract extension with the Lakers. Bryant will be 37 when he concludes his 20th NBA season in 2015-16. Below, a look at his salary each season with the Lakers.
Season; Bryant's salary.
1996-97; $1,015,000;
1997-98; $1,167,240;
1998-99; $1,319,000;
1999-00; $9,000,000;
2000-01; $10,130,000;
2001-02; $11,250,000;
2002-03; $12,375,000;
2003-04; $13,500,000;
2004-05; $14,175,000;
2005-06; $15,946,875;
2006-07; $17,718,750;
2007-08; $19,490,625;
2008-09; $21,262,500;
2009-10; $23,034,375;
2010-11; $24,806,250;
2011-12; $25,244,493;
2012-13; $27,849,149;
2013-14; $30,453,805;
2014-15; $23,500,000;
2015-16; $25,000,000;
Career: $328,238,062
Source: Basketball-reference.com and The Times.


http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-kobe-bryant-earnings-20131126,0,326478.story#ixzz2lu8NPd9g


Hes actually taking less money to stay in LA.

[The Iron Fist]

from my perspective, as a fan of neither player, I think they are both really difficult teammates and have acted incredibly selfishly many times throughout their careers.

:confusedshrug:
and only one is a proven commodity.

[AintNoSunshine]

So somehow Howard getting benched for Asik makes him a great guy because Bryant has a huge contract.


:lol

The article is extremely far fetched in putting an orange and an apple in the basket. But let's be real, Kobe's extention has crippled the team no doubt.

[Tmuston Beltics]

Kobe by the numbers
Kobe Bryant on Monday signed a two-year, $48.5-million contract extension with the Lakers. Bryant will be 37 when he concludes his 20th NBA season in 2015-16. Below, a look at his salary each season with the Lakers.
Season; Bryant's salary.
1996-97; $1,015,000;
1997-98; $1,167,240;
1998-99; $1,319,000;
1999-00; $9,000,000;
2000-01; $10,130,000;
2001-02; $11,250,000;
2002-03; $12,375,000;
2003-04; $13,500,000;
2004-05; $14,175,000;
2005-06; $15,946,875;
2006-07; $17,718,750;
2007-08; $19,490,625;
2008-09; $21,262,500;
2009-10; $23,034,375;
2010-11; $24,806,250;
2011-12; $25,244,493;
2012-13; $27,849,149;
2013-14; $30,453,805;
2014-15; $23,500,000;
2015-16; $25,000,000;
Career: $328,238,062
Source: Basketball-reference.com and The Times.


http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-kobe-bryant-earnings-20131126,0,326478.story#ixzz2lu8NPd9g


Hes actually taking less money to stay in LA.

I don't think any team would offer him 30,4m at this point of his career.

[Magic 32]

I don't think any team would offer him 30,4m at this point of his career.

Yet we have only seen one season (10-11) were he wasn't worth the money.

[SpanishACB]

good read.

And it highlights Kobe's selfishness

Lakers can only afford one max contract and Kobe is aware of this, he knows there is no way in hell they can build a contender with him getting that much money but he is happy with that fact (not taking a paycut)

and he's happy because he doesn't give a **** about Lakers winning a championship, he's happy enough racking minutes and taking impossible shots all season long only to retire as the player with most whatever...

his gameplan all along

and those who take paycuts in order to team up with other super stars are the same kind of new generation sports belladona

[Kaspah]

Being benched the entire 4th quarter of a close game means you suck under pressure.


Or, in Dwight's case, sacrificing minutes for the good of the team :oldlol:

[Real Men Wear Green]

:lol

The article is extremely far fetched in putting an orange and an apple in the basket. But let's be real, Kobe's extention has crippled the team no doubt.
I am not going to criticize Bryant for doing something I know I would have done in his position as well. The Lakers made him the offer and he took it. It's not his job to manage the cap.

[Nick Young]

Being benched the entire 4th quarter of a close game means you suck under pressure.


Or, in Dwight's case, sacrificing minutes for the good of the team :oldlol:
exactly. How can Dwight praise himself for this, how the media can praise him, I can't understand it. Just goes to show they can spindoctor anything.

[Kaspah]

exactly. How can Dwight praise himself for this, how the media can praise him, I can't understand it. Just goes to show they can spindoctor anything.

I'd love to be out somewhere and overhear a conversation between some fair weather dudes:

"Nope, Dwight's changed his attitude around, he actually sacrificed his own minutes and sat out the entire 4th quarter so the rockets had a chance to come back and win!"

"Oh wow! See, the lakers were just too critical of him, he's a team player. He sat out the entire end of the game, just so his team could have a chance to win!"

[bmd]

I think many of you may have reading comprehension problems. Howard didn't sit the 4th because he is a liability. He sat the 4th because the line-up that was in the game was wrecking shop and made a big comeback to take the lead.

McHale decided to not put the starters back in, and instead stick with the back-ups who were playing great.

And Howard didn't bitch at all. He was perfectly fine with it.

Now that I have corrected your ignorance, you may continue making stuff up and discussing your hate for Howard because it makes you feel better.

[Kaspah]

I think many of you may have reading comprehension problems. Howard didn't sit the 4th because he is a liability. He sat the 4th because the line-up that was in the game was wrecking shop and made a big comeback to take the lead.

McHale decided to not put the starters back in, and instead stick with the back-ups who were playing great.

And Howard didn't bitch at all. He was perfectly fine with it.

Now that I have corrected your ignorance, you may continue making stuff up and discussing your hate for Howard because it makes you feel better.

Dude there's a humongous article in the OP that glorified Dwight's ability to sacrifice minutes for the good of the team

When that's article worthy and a big deal to people, it means you're bitchmade. Dwight is.

[Genaro]

This article :facepalm

How can anyone praise him for staying in the bench since ti wasn't his decision?
And yes he didn't complain but just cause he couldn't. If he complains in a win he would be bashed all over the league, he's not that stupidy.

But I guarantee you that: If it was his decision, he would be on the court.

[bmd]

Dude there's a humongous article in the OP that glorified Dwight's ability to sacrifice minutes for the good of the team

When that's article worthy and a big deal to people, it means you're bitchmade. Dwight is.It's only article-worthy because previously there were tons of articles written criticizing Dwight for being selfish, not being a leader, etc.

This article is in response to things that were said about him last year.

You think Kobe would be fine with sitting the entire 4th quarter? In fact... didn't Kobe throw a bitch-fit when he sat the 4th last year?

[Scholar]

So somehow Howard getting benched for Asik makes him a great guy because Bryant has a huge contract.

Thank you. I thought I was the only one thinking this after reading the stupid article.

[oh the horror]

So somehow Howard getting benched for Asik makes him a great guy because Bryant has a huge contract.


That's basically what the article is saying.

[oh the horror]

And let's get one thing clear here...



Howard didn't take himself out of the game. Dude isn't "sacrificing" shit okay?


He got BENCHED. Plain and simple. He hasn't said anything because they won for one, and two, because I'm SURE he understands at this point if he does complain it WILL be a PR NIGHTMARE for him.


People would be like okay, you went to a new team to complain there too?


It is what it is. But let's keep it real. That dude didn't take himself out of the game.


"Sacrifice". :oldlol: come on now.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

It's only article-worthy because previously there were tons of articles written criticizing Dwight for being selfish, not being a leader, etc.

This article is in response to things that were said about him last year.

You think Kobe would be fine with sitting the entire 4th quarter? In fact... didn't Kobe throw a bitch-fit when he sat the 4th last year?

Dwight did whine about stats and post touches last year. How he reacts to getting benched now doesn't change that and Kobe's extension is even more irrelevant.

[avonbarksdale]

they are embracing dwight because he didn't complain about being benched


like oh wow what a great leader

[BlackVVaves]

Regardless of Dwight's behavior on this new team, it doesn't change his behavior on his team last year. He still acted in a very selfish manner.

Also, how does a starting unit, including the new maxed out franchise player, being out produced by the bench relatable to Kobe's new contract?

I was one of the first ones to criticize Kobe for taking as much as he did, but since hearing that that was the offer the Laker's brought to Kobe...not the other way around...I have a little difference of opinion. You can't blame Kobe for saying yes, as I'm sure 100% of us would have done the same (particularly when considering that after taxes, he only takes home $12.5 Million a year).

Also worth noting, when Duncan negotiated his new contract, he wasn't even a top 10 player. If you remember, there was talk of him considering retirement in a year or two. Unlike Kobe, who was a top 4 or 5 player last year.

I think the contract should be criticized more on the Lakers side than Kobe. I still think he could have said "Thanks, but no thanks," but really, the Lakers should have went through negotiations, bringing up their desire to surround him with talent for his last chapter, than to pre-ejaculate and give him $24.5 Million per year.

[DDensity]

:roll: @ Rockets being a contender. Holy shit, Rocket fans are unreal.

No kidding. Dwight had a better team in Orlando in 2009 than this Houston team. Couple that with the fact that he's simply not as good as he was then and there's no way you have a contender. The Spurs and Thunder are miles ahead, let alone the Heat or Pacers. Houston isn't even in the top 5. I mean seriously, when did a core of Howard, Harden and Parsons become a championship caliber trio.

The only people who think the Rockets are contenders all live in Houston.