Wall just ended 'the best PG in the east' argument

[alenleomessi]

Wall 26/6/12 (9-18) 3tos
Teague 15/3/5 (5-18) 5tos

Wizards-Hawks 108-101

[MP.Trey]

ISH. Where one game ends arguments.

Impressive showing though. Wall has looked great this year, looking like a definite all star. :cheers:

[rknine15]

he really outplayed teague, he didn't look too confident out there....

John was pretty aggressive today

[BlazerRed]

Wall has been incredible good. Props to him, was starting to look like a terrible bust early last year.

[moe94]

Deron Williams shit on Paul all throughout their best years.

[OldSkoolball#52]

Wall 26/6/12 (9-18) 3tos
Teague 15/3/5 (5-18) 5tos

Wizards-Hawks 108-101


Just watched that game.


Honestly, the only thing he can do is charge to the basket and throw the ball up at the cup. If the defense is sucked in he can get it kicked out to a shooter.


That's very nice. I still don't get the sense he's able to control a game with the best point guards, which is what will come into play in the postseason. He's still very one dimensional. Unfortunately, it's pretty much a regular season dimension.


He's a poor man's Rose. Lebron would casually devour him in the playoffs and then burp.

[DuMa]

i hate rondo but he doesnt lose this title just because of injury. he can still come back with a vengeance

[rknine15]

Just watched that game.


Honestly, the only thing he can do is charge to the basket and throw the ball up at the cup. If the defense is sucked in he can get it kicked out to a shooter.


That's very nice. I still don't get the sense he's able to control a game with the best point guards, which is what will come into play in the postseason. He's still very one dimensional. Unfortunately, it's pretty much a regular season dimension.


He's a poor man's Rose. Lebron would casually devour him in the playoffs and then burp.
Yeah lebron is the best bball player in the world....:rolleyes:

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Wall finally getting some love :D dude has been balling lately

[OldSkoolball#52]

Yeah lebron is the best bball player in the world....:rolleyes:


Yeah but what I'm saying is that PG's like Paul and Rondo can at least run an offense, and give you a reasonable chance at collectively getting by the Heat. Still doesn't guarantee it of course.

If you try to go through the Heat just by having one guy do a bunch of scoring, you're toast. Ask Rose, Durant, George, Parker.

Lebron is like an End Boss in a video game. Dude will just not let anyone by :oldlol:

[Heavincent]

Lebron is like an End Boss in a video game. Dude will just not let anyone by :oldlol:

And Dirk took a shit on the end game boss in one try, sat back and enjoyed the credits.

[wakencdukest]

Just watched that game.


Honestly, the only thing he can do is charge to the basket and throw the ball up at the cup. If the defense is sucked in he can get it kicked out to a shooter.


That's very nice. I still don't get the sense he's able to control a game with the best point guards, which is what will come into play in the postseason. He's still very one dimensional. Unfortunately, it's pretty much a regular season dimension.


He's a poor man's Rose. Lebron would casually devour him in the playoffs and then burp.


I noticed this against the Lakers last week. He drew a lot of fouls going to the hoop, but missed a shit-ton of easy layups.

[316MIA]

Meh. The PG competition in the Eastern Conference is a flat out joke to be honest. John Wall has been on a tear so far and he's always been better than Jeff Teague in just about everything IMO.

What's shocking is how terrible Kyrie has been playing. I actually expected a big year from him to start off the season.

[The JKidd Kid]

When Williams and Rose went down the title was basically handed to him. His only real cmpetitor other than those guys is Teague, who he dominated tonight.

[CelticBaller]

i hate rondo but he doesnt lose this title just because of injury. he can still come back with a vengeance
Since he isn't playing he is not currently on the discussion. Wall is clearly better than Teague.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Well, the three PGs who are all better than him are injured right now so congratulations on winning it by default. I like wall a lot but this is kind of a dumb thread.

[Miller for 3]

Isn't that like being the tallest midget? Who's his biggest comp? The corpse of Jameer Nelson? Mario Chalmers? Kylke "I play 40 games a season" Lowry? Many YMCA players would be top 3 PGs in the East :lol

[scott0326]

For people saying "all wall can do is drive and shoot", watch him some more. He has definitely worked on his jump shot and free throw shooting and has been fantastic this year, especially of late. His mid range is far from automatic but its definitely getting respectable and he's also added a 3 point shot to his game, which he's been hitting at a decent clip (33%).

Wall is easily best healthy PG in East right now and is probably a top 5 PG in all of NBA right now.

[Dr. Ice]

yea he definitely looked way better than teague today, and this is coming from a hawks fan. I dont understand how wall v. irving was even an argument. A simple eye test clearly shows that wall is superior

[STATUTORY]

Just watched that game.


Honestly, the only thing he can do is charge to the basket and throw the ball up at the cup. If the defense is sucked in he can get it kicked out to a shooter.


That's very nice. I still don't get the sense he's able to control a game with the best point guards, which is what will come into play in the postseason. He's still very one dimensional. Unfortunately, it's pretty much a regular season dimension.


He's a poor man's Rose. Lebron would casually devour him in the playoffs and then burp.

he's very poor man's rose, he can't get to the basket and finish as easily from the half court set.

[veilside23]

what the .... why lebron is mentioned in this thread its about john wall ... oh am sorry lebron is the greatest.. my bad...

on topic.

26 12 5 steals ... doing it without beal. dude has been ballin lately.. try watching the game instead of box score... once his mid range gets automatic... /thread

[Meticode]

Wall has been incredible good. Props to him, was starting to look like a terrible bust early last year.
Well, until after the all-star break.

[Meticode]

Well, the three PGs who are all better than him are injured right now so congratulations on winning it by default. I like wall a lot but this is kind of a dumb thread.
If one of them is Williams I haven't been high on him since he went to Brooklyn. He's regressed in my opinion. Injuries or not.

But I do agree with you.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Well, the three PGs who are all better than him are injured right now so congratulations on winning it by default. I like wall a lot but this is kind of a dumb thread.
Rose, Williams and who else?

[veilside23]

Well, until after the all-star break.

what will happen then? :rolleyes:

[Meticode]

He's a poor man's Rose. Lebron would casually devour him in the playoffs and then burp.
The thread is about John Wall and point guards. Not Wizards making playoffs or LeBron. Get the **** out of here.

:coleman:

[Meticode]

what will happen then? :rolleyes:
He said Wall looked like an "early" bust last year. My comment was me agreeing with him basically stating "Yes, Wall played awesome after the all-star break last year."

[scott0326]

Rose, Williams and who else?
Rondo I'm assuming

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Rondo I'm assuming
lol fail on my part. totally forgot about him. Rose Rondo are better than Wall not sure about Williams at this point.

[veilside23]

He said Wall looked like an "early" bust last year. My comment was me agreeing with him basically stating "Yes, Wall played awesome after the all-star break last year."


i agree i just hate it when this lebron homers gets his name every thread... lebron is the goat no need to mention that evey thread :pimp:

[veilside23]

lol fail on my part. totally forgot about him. Rose Rondo are better than Wall not sure about Williams at this point.


i dont know if drose will still be better than wall once he comes back though..

right know unless williams returns to the old williams .. wall will be ballin..:bowdown:

[greymatter]

Pretty sad.

Reminds me of when Terrell Brandon and Mookie Blaylock made AS teams. Guys with 1-2 appearances and only when the East was especially weak on guards.

[ohdilly]

Rondo is gonna be making some noise this year if he can stay healthy. I wanna see this guy play without KG and Pierce. He always puts up triple doubles with a lot of steals. If only he can gradually improve his shooting range he would be dangerous.

[ralph_i_el]

Wall has been incredible good. Props to him, was starting to look like a terrible bust early last year.

When he was hurt?

[Buzissa]

It says a lot about the East when the best PG's are Wall and Teague.
Wall is pretty good, but he is not even a top 5 PG in the league.

[Bandito]

Just watched that game.


Honestly, the only thing he can do is charge to the basket and throw the ball up at the cup. If the defense is sucked in he can get it kicked out to a shooter.


That's very nice. I still don't get the sense he's able to control a game with the best point guards, which is what will come into play in the postseason. He's still very one dimensional. Unfortunately, it's pretty much a regular season dimension.


He's a poor man's Rose. Lebron would casually devour him in the playoffs and then burp.
That's pretty much Lebron when he started and look where he is now. Wall is going to get better.

[Bandito]

It says a lot about the East when the best PG's are Wall and Teague.
Wall is pretty good, but he is not even a top 5 PG in the league.
Who are your 5 top pg's? I am just curious...

[Buzissa]

Who are your 5 top pg's? I am just curious...

1-Paul
2-Parker
3-Westbrook
4-Curry
5-Conley

Rose would be in my list if he was not injured. Maybe Wall has a case for 5th, but that's it.

[Nastradamus]

Why oh why did we sign Jennings instead of Teague? I wanted Teague and would have gone up to 4/45-50

[westside_baller]

Might as well proclaim him 'best PG in the dleague.' The east is a barren wasteland of talent outside of miami and indiana.

[Genaro]

i hate rondo but he doesnt lose this title just because of injury. he can still come back with a vengeance
This.
People on this board act like people hurt are dead or retired.

[Go Getter]

Just watched that game.


Honestly, the only thing he can do is charge to the basket and throw the ball up at the cup. If the defense is sucked in he can get it kicked out to a shooter.


That's very nice. I still don't get the sense he's able to control a game with the best point guards, which is what will come into play in the postseason. He's still very one dimensional. Unfortunately, it's pretty much a regular season dimension.


He's a poor man's Rose. Lebron would casually devour him in the playoffs and then burp.


Just when I thought you could make a reasonable post you go and ruin it.:facepalm

[Go Getter]

he's very poor man's rose, he can't get to the basket and finish as easily from the half court set.
Rose was very good at getting to the basket with ease from a half court set. It's so sad that his body just couldn't hold up. Hopefully he can get back out there and finish his career on his own terms and not because of injuries issues.

[The JKidd Kid]

1-Paul
2-Parker
3-Westbrook
4-Curry
5-Conley

Rose would be in my list if he was not injured. Maybe Wall has a case for 5th, but that's it.

Thats how you know a shit ton of players are injured :lol . And Conley is nowhere near Wall btw.

[Jameerthefear]

1-Paul
2-Parker
3-Westbrook
4-Curry
5-Conley

Rose would be in my list if he was not injured. Maybe Wall has a case for 5th, but that's it.
Conley? LOL

[ralph_i_el]

1-Paul
2-Parker
3-Westbrook
4-Curry
5-Conley

Rose would be in my list if he was not injured. Maybe Wall has a case for 5th, but that's it.

That's a stretch with conley. Everyone else has a valid argument. I'd take Wall over Curry. Parker is a great player but he's also a huge beneficiary of the Spurs system/coaching.

[rknine15]

1-Paul
2-Parker
3-Westbrook
4-Curry
5-Conley

Rose would be in my list if he was not injured. Maybe Wall has a case for 5th, but that's it.
1. ok fine
2. system player... individually Wall>Parker
3. not even Wall (19/4/9/42%) > Westbrook (21/4/5/39%)
4. Curry, sure but its close
5. :facepalm your kidding right?


as for Rose, D.Will and Rondo.... Rose and D.Will have played this season and been terrible and lets see what Rondo will do without 3 HOF players and Doc beside him