2-18 in a Playoff game

[RagaZ]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200805060BOS.html

GET IN! :applause: :bowdown:

[MP.Trey]

LeBron 2-18
Pierce 2-14

This is like the opposite of that game 7 duel. :lol

[Bandito]

Kobe never had a game like that. Pathetic...!

[#number6ix#]

Damn that was a ugly ass game

[Trollsmasher]

Imho the worst LeBron's game.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Kobe never had a game like that. Pathetic...!
Nope. Instead He lost a finals series with 3 hall of fame teammates and played like shit in the the biggest game of his career (2010 game 7).

[SilkkTheShocker]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200805060BOS.html

GET IN! :applause: :bowdown:
Still bitter from the finals, f.ag? :oldlol:

[MP.Trey]

Kobe never had a game like that. Pathetic...!
http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200006160IND.html

4-20 in the finals. Worst I could find with a quick look. Lakers got blown out too, at least Bron's team stayed competitive.

But Kobe can say he hasn't shot 11% in a playoff game before tho. :lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

I think he shot 6-24 the next game right?

[lakerspng]

Nope. Instead He lost a finals series with 3 hall of fame teammates and played like shit in the the biggest game of his career (2010 game 7).

he actually played sensational in that game.... oh wait, you think field goal percentage is the end all be all determining factor in a players impact....

just please go away troll.

[crisoner]

http://www.rightthisminute.com/video/twerking-has-evolved-modern-art-form

Enjoy!

[SilkkTheShocker]

he actually played sensational in that game.... oh wait, you think field goal percentage is the end all be all determining factor in a players impact....

just please go away troll.

You need to get over the fact LeBron is a better player than Kobe ever was. Let it go, and move on already, b.itch

[PizzamanIRL]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200805060BOS.html

GET IN! :applause: :bowdown:

I'm not even a crazy LBJ fan but you're pathetic bringing up one game.

[r15mohd]

9 reb
9 ast
10 t/o

[ripthekik]

2/18
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Back when he didn't care about efficiency and his true FG% came through..

[ripthekik]

9 reb
9 ast
10 t/o
I thought you were kidding, but I checked again and damn, 10 TURNOVERS?
That's ridiculous :wtf:

[lakerspng]

You need to get over the fact LeBron is a better player than Kobe ever was. Let it go, and move on already, b.itch

he's not but he looks great on paper. chump.

[avonbarksdale]

game 7 lebron dropped 45 pierce dropped 41 damn

[cos88]

2/18
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Back when he didn't care about efficiency and his true FG% came through..

back when kobe was relevant?

[aj1987]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200006160IND.html

4-20 in the finals. Worst I could find with a quick look. Lakers got blown out too, at least Bron's team stayed competitive.

But Kobe can say he hasn't shot 11% in a playoff game before tho. :lol
Shaq - 17/27
Kobe - 4/20

:facepalm

[Element]

Shaq - 17/27
Kobe - 4/20

:facepalm

He sprained his ankle before during the series
LeBron was fully healthy :lol

[kamil]

LMAO, and people like TonyMontana or Silkktheshocker call this guy greater than MJ?

Bahahahaha,:roll: :roll: :roll:

[MP.Trey]

LMAO, and people like TonyMontana or Silkktheshocker call this guy greater than MJ?

Bahahahaha,:roll: :roll: :roll:
MJ 3-18 vs the Knicks. You right, 1 shot better. And he still won the game tho. :pimp:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199305290CHI.html

[kamil]

MJ 3-18 vs the Knicks. You right, 1 shot better. And he still won the game tho. :pimp:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199305290CHI.html

Even when MJ's having an off night, he still gets the double-you...

[ripthekik]

MJ 3-18 vs the Knicks. You right, 1 shot better. And he still won the game tho. :pimp:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199305290CHI.html
:pimp:

Out of the three games posted so far:
Lebron's 2-18 10TO
Kobe's 4-20
Jordan's 3-18

only 1 guy ended up losing the series. Guess which one?

[PJR]

Back when LeBron was a one man team. Taking those Cleveland teams as far as anyone could. :bowdown:

[kamil]

:pimp:

Out of the three games posted so far:
Lebron's 2-18 10TO
Kobe's 4-20
Jordan's 3-18

only 1 guy ended up losing the series. Guess which one?

LeBron* of course.

One should also mention LeBron* also shot 8-42 in the first two games. Major lulz.

[KingBeasley08]

Damn. It's crazy how much LeBron has improved from his Cleveland days. These days, him going just 9-18 is shocking. Props to the dude for improving his game

[SilkkTheShocker]

Amazing how much anger and hatred LeBron brings out in these posters :oldlol:

[KyrieTheFuture]

The ten turnovers pissed me off way more than the terrible shooting. Just like in 2010 he was dribbling off his foot like he never played basketball before.

[DaSeba5]

I swear it's the same guy talking to himself.

[aj1987]

He sprained his ankle before during the series
LeBron was fully healthy :lol
What do you do when you're injured and have the best player in the league on your team?

http://i.imgur.com/ol85jKS.jpg

[Hoopz2332]

Kobe stans at it again?



Playoff Numbers


KObe

25.6 ppg 45 FG% on 21 FGA

5 rbs


5ast
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lebron

28.1 ppg 47 FG% on 20 FGa

9 rbs

7 ast


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Jordan

33.4 ppg 49 FG% on 25 FGA

6 rbs

6 ast





Playoff elimination games


Michael Jordan Elimination Game Averages:

31.3 PPG,

7.9 RPG,

7.0 APG,

2.1 SPG,

1.0 BPG,

4.2 TOPG,

45.8 FG%,

33.3 3P%,

75.7 FT%


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LeBron James Elimination Game Averages:

31.9 PPG,


10.1 RPG,

6.5 APG,


1.4 SPG,

.6 BPG,

4.5 TOPG,

46.5 FG%,

31.4 3P%,

73.8 FT%

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Kobe Bryant Elimination Game Averages:

22.3 PPG,

5.6 RPG,

3.7 APG,

1.2 SPG,

.6 BPG,

3.0 TOPG,

41.4 FG%,

27.5 3P%,

77.9 FT%



[quote]Straight up game 7's or 5's

Michael Jordan G7 Stats:

36.8 PPG, 7.2 RPG, 6.6 APG, 1.2 SPG, 1.0 BPG, 4.0 TOPG, 48.9 FG%, 33.3 FG%, 79.7 FT%

-W/out Game 5

[Deuce Bigalow]

Back when LeBron was a one man team. Taking those Cleveland teams as far as anyone could. :bowdown:
Shoots 2-18, has 10 t/o and his team only lost by 4 in game 1 to the eventual champions with the series going 7 games. Nobody can take a team as far as him :bowdown:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe stans at it again?















http://i.imgur.com/kmxk69V.gif
You forgot....


2007 Finals - dominant 22 ppg, and lets not forget the great Lebron turning the ball over 5 times a game.

2011 Finals - An amazing 17.8 ppg, being outscored by Dirk, Wade, Bosh, and the great Jason the Jet Terry. Averaged 26.7 ppg in the regular season, making it the largest ppg drop-off from regular season to finals in history. Also the incredible clutch 3.0 4th quarter ppg.

2013 Finals - An amazing 25 ppg on 45%FG after averaging 57%FG for the season. Left open on the perimeter all series long and blown out a couple of games but the great Lebron managed to pad his numbers with the game out of reach.


You also forgot....

Jordan 6
Kobe 5
Lebron 2

http://i.imgur.com/kmxk69V.gif

[zoom17]

You forgot....


2007 Finals - dominant 22 ppg.

2011 Finals - an amazing 17.8 ppg, being outscored by Dirk, Wade, Bosh, and the great Jason the Jet Terry. Averaged 26.7 ppg in the regular season, making it the largest ppg drop-off from regular season to finals in history.

2013 Finals - An amazing 25 ppg on 45%FG after averaging 57%FG for the season. Left open on the perimeter all series long and blown out a couple of games but the great Lebron managed to pad his numbers with the game out of reach.


You also forgot....

Jordan 6
Kobe 2/5 Shaq 3
Lebron 2

http://i.imgur.com/kmxk69V.gif

fixed it for you

[Deuce Bigalow]

fixed it for you
Kobe was a Laker in 2000-02

"Were the greatest 1-2 punch" -Shaq

http://i.imgur.com/kmxk69V.gif

[Deuce Bigalow]

In 2009-2011 Lebron lost 3 straight playoff series with HCA

Kobe lost 2 series with HCA his whole career

http://i.imgur.com/kmxk69V.gif

[Big Cheese]

criticizing a young lebron for having an off game against one of the greatest defensive teams ever.

weak.

[Hoopz2332]

You forgot....


I didn't forget anything. Every game lebron has played, good or bad in the playoff is represented in his avgs.



2007 Finals - dominant 22 ppg, and lets not forget the great Lebron turning the ball over 5 times a game.

2011 Finals - An amazing 17.8 ppg, being outscored by Dirk, Wade, Bosh, and the great Jason the Jet Terry. Averaged 26.7 ppg in the regular season, making it the largest ppg drop-off from regular season to finals in history. Also the incredible clutch 3.0 4th quarter ppg.

2013 Finals - An amazing 25 ppg on 45%FG after averaging 57%FG for the season. Left open on the perimeter all series long and blown out a couple of games but the great Lebron managed to pad his numbers with the game out of reach.


It's all included and he's still puts up better #'s than Kobe:applause: :lol



You also forgot....

Jordan 6
Kobe 5
Lebron 2

http://i.imgur.com/kmxk69V.gif


You forgot

http://i.imgur.com/2HQ2ImU.jpg


Clutch playoff stats for that azz


http://i.imgur.com/RqK0DhC.png


Clutch numbers in the playoffs

Playoff clutch time

http://i.imgur.com/6sylQYF.jpg (old)

updated

http://i.imgur.com/m8fCjif.png

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/58575/lebron-james-isnt-clutch-think-again


I thought KObe was a "killer"?:biggums:

[TimmyDuncan]

Only 3 players did that :
http://bkref.com/tiny/km0BQ

Karl Malone 2/20
LeBron James and John Starks 2/18

[SilkkTheShocker]

LeBron>>>>>Kobe

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[TimmyDuncan]

Just checked some other chucking stat and this one is really bad
http://bkref.com/tiny/PVLCX

[Hoopz2332]

Kobe records:pimp:


http://i.imgur.com/OcZOVHr.jpg

[Mr. Incredible]

Lol ah once the real stats come to light, RIPTHEKIK goes CASPER! :roll:

[Deuce Bigalow]

I didn't forget anything. Every game lebron has played, good or bad in the playoff is represented in his avgs.





It's all included and he's still puts up better #'s than Kobe:applause: :lol





You forgot

http://i.imgur.com/2HQ2ImU.jpg


Clutch playoff stats for that azz


http://i.imgur.com/RqK0DhC.png


Clutch numbers in the playoffs

Playoff clutch time

http://i.imgur.com/6sylQYF.jpg (old)

updated

http://i.imgur.com/m8fCjif.png

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/58575/lebron-james-isnt-clutch-think-again


I thought KObe was a "killer"?:biggums:
You posted just FG% for the Finals :facepalm
As if its supposed to mean anything. Lebron shot 48% in 2011, but that doesn't changed the fact that he ****ing sucked and choked.

"Clutch" and being a "killer" is so much more than the last 24 seconds of a close game. How about playoff games when Kobe's team was down, like 0-1, or 1-2? Or in playoff games where the series is tied?

Some examples for you kid

2004 series vs Spurs
Game 4, Lakers down 1-2 in the series
Kobe - 42/6/5 on 15-27, 2-4 from 3

2009 series vs Rockets
Game 2, Lakers down 0-1
Kobe- 40/6/3 on 16/27, 2/3 from 3

2009 vs Nuggets
Game 3, tied 1-1
Kobe- 41/6/5 on 12/24, 2/5 from 3

Game 6, Lakers up 3-2 Close out game
Kobe- 35/6/10 on 12/20

He has many great games where he eliminated teams and prevented game 7s from happening. Kobe the "killer" has many 30+ point road closeout games to choose from, I think he has the most in nba history.

[Hoopz2332]

Lol ah once the real stats come to light, RIPTHEKIK goes CASPER! :roll:


I got ether for days for the Kobe stans:oldlol: They never repsond to any of these stats when I post them. I feel kinda bad for them:oldlol:

[SilkkTheShocker]

Amazing how Kobe stans are still in denial their favorite player can't touch Bron :oldlol:

[Hoopz2332]

You posted just FG% for the Finals :facepalm
As if its supposed to mean anything. Lebron shot 48% in 2011, but that doesn't changed the fact that he ****ing sucked and choked.

"Clutch" and being a "killer" is so much more than the last 24 seconds of a close game. How about playoff games when Kobe's team was down, like 0-1, or 1-2? Or in playoff games where the series is tied?

Some examples for you kid

2004 series vs Spurs
Game 4, Lakers down 1-2 in the series
Kobe - 42/6/5 on 15-27, 2-4 from 3

2009 series vs Rockets
Game 2, Lakers down 0-1
Kobe- 40/6/3 on 16/27, 2/3 from 3

2009 vs Nuggets
Game 3, tied 1-1
Kobe- 41/6/5 on 12/24, 2/5 from 3

Game 5, series tied 2-2
Kobe- 35/6/10 on 12/20

That isn't to mention his games where he eliminated teams and prevented game 7s from happening. Kobe the "killer" has so many 30+ point road closeout games to choose from.


those aren't elimination games (on the lakers/kobe side) my friend...try again:lol:

[Hoopz2332]

Amazing how Kobe stans are still in denial their favorite player can't touch Bron :oldlol:


Kobeites right now

http://i.imgur.com/49OorUM.gif

[Hoopz2332]

Kobe vs lebron in the clutch (individual and team influence)


What model-dependent realism has to say about whether Kobe is clutch


Kobe isn't Clutch:

Despite all of his clutch fame, Kobe has had his skeptics. Most non-Laker fans hold this opinion. Some of this skepticism is based purely on hate, and other is based off of facts. Recently, ESPN analysts have criticized Kobe's numbers and how they deceive people in articles like this and this. What, exactly, makes Kobe so not clutch?

While Kobe has made a ton of clutch shots over his career, he has missed significantly more. Between 2000 and 2012, Kobe shot by far the highest number of attempts (230) in the final minute of games with a margin of five points or fewer for regular season games. Of those 230 attempts, he only made 80 of them. 80/230 puts him at a mediocre 34.8%, only slightly above the atrocious league average of 33.7%. This means that for every clutch basket that Kobe makes, he has 1.87 clutch misses. If those numbers are considered worthy of being considered one of the clutchest players of all time, Amar'e Stoudemire should be up there, as well. When your clutch numbers are worse than this guy, you probably should join a depression clinic before an all-clutch NBA team.

Regular season games are great and all, but the playoffs are the games that really matter. If you think Kobe's clutch numbers are better there, boy are you wrong. In the final minute of playoff games where the margin is within five points, Kobe has gone 10/31. That's 32.3%, which means that for every one amazing make Kobe has he has 2.09 bricks. Granted this playoff number comes in a small sample size; LeBron James (apparent, notable choke artist) has actually made the same number of clutch shots in the final minute of a playoff game as Kobe between 2000 and 2012 with 11 fewer attempts. That's not even including the plethora of clutch makes LeBron had against the Pacers and Spurs. Kobe's numbers are certainly not indicative of a player who shows up in big games.

As much of an offensive threat as Kobe is, one would expect that the Lakers would have a top-notch offense in crunch time of close games. To see a complete recap of just how bad Kobe and the Lakers' crunch time numbers are, you should check out Henry Abbott's Truehoop article posted a few years ago. One of the most stunning excerpts from this article is:

You'd expect Los Angeles to also have one of the league's best offenses in crunch time, right? Especially with the ball in the hands of the player most suited to those moments.

That's not what happens, though. In the final 24 seconds of close games the Lakers offense regresses horribly, managing just 82 points per 100 possessions...

The Lakers are not among the league leaders in crunch-time offense -- instead, they're just about average, scoring 82.35 points per 100 possessions in a league that averages 80.03. They are, however, among the league leaders in how much worse their offense declines in crunch time.

When Bryant is on the floor in crunch time, Bryant's Lakers are actually outscored by their opponents.

Kobe is said to be the clutchest player of all time, yet the Lakers' offensive numbers beg to differ.


http://www.poundingtherock.com/2013/9/9/4683058/kobe-bryant-clutch-stephen-hawking


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LeBron James, Heat great in the 'clutch'





As it pertains to the NBA, "clutch time" is defined as less than five minutes to go in the fourth quarter or overtime and the score within five points.


And right now no team is more clutch than the Miami Heat, and no player is more clutch than LeBron James.

And after Monday’s comeback against the Boston Celtics, it’s worth noting in recent history just how great this Heat team has been in clutch situations.

In the past 17 seasons, the Heat are one of two teams that have outscored their opponents by more than 30 points per 100 possessions in "clutch time". The only team better than this year’s Heat? The 2008-09 Cleveland Cavaliers, who just happened to be led by LeBron.



http://i.imgur.com/vsGZyYa.png

[Deuce Bigalow]

those aren't elimination games (on the lakers/kobe side) my friend...try again:lol:
Exactly, he beat teams before facing that position most of the time. You're rewarding players playing like shit the first 6 games and having a good game 7 over a dominant 6 game series preventing being in an elimination game 7.

According to you- Lebron so clutch in the 2008 series vs Celtics..45 points in Game 7....Ignoring him going 8-42 FG the first two games which was why they lost the first 2 games. Context my friend.

[imdaman99]

Sigh. Knicks fans know why 2-18 is a painful thing to see written :(

[Jameerthefear]

Geez. That's just terrible.

[Hoopz2332]

Exactly, he beat teams before facing that position most of the time. You're rewarding players playing like shit the first 6 games and having a good game 7 over a dominant 6 game series preventing being in an elimination game 7.




No matter what you say, no way you can defend Kobe "big game" (elimination of game 7) stats. They're not all time great level.

LeBron James Elimination Game Averages:

31.9 PPG,


10.1 RPG,

6.5 APG,


1.4 SPG,

.6 BPG,

4.5 TOPG,

46.5 FG%,

31.4 3P%,

73.8 FT%

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Kobe Bryant Elimination Game Averages:

22.3 PPG,

5.6 RPG,

3.7 APG,

1.2 SPG,

.6 BPG,

3.0 TOPG,

41.4 FG%,

27.5 3P%,

77.9 FT%


Where is KObe "the killer" at in elimination games?


what about game 7's (or 5's)? lebron has played in 5 while kobe has played in 7 of them.



Kobe Bryant G7 Stats:
21.4 PPG, 7.1 RPG, 5.1 APG, .9 SPG, 1.6 BPG, 2.0 TOPG, 39.5 FG%, 32.4 3P%, 70.2 FT%
-W/out Game 5

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Exactly, he beat teams before facing that position most of the time. You're rewarding players playing like shit the first 6 games and having a good game 7 over a dominant 6 game series preventing being in an elimination game 7.

According to you- Lebron so clutch in the 2008 series vs Celtics..45 points in Game 7....Ignoring him going 8-42 FG the first two games which was why they lost the first 2 games. Context my friend.

Da fcuk kind of avatar is that? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously with that?

[Deuce Bigalow]

[QUOTE=Hoopz2332]No matter what you say, no way you can defend Kobe "big game" (elimination of game 7) stats. They're not all time great level.

LeBron James Elimination Game Averages:

31.9 PPG,


10.1 RPG,

6.5 APG,


1.4 SPG,

.6 BPG,

4.5 TOPG,

46.5 FG%,

31.4 3P%,

73.8 FT%

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Kobe Bryant Elimination Game Averages:

22.3 PPG,

5.6 RPG,

3.7 APG,

1.2 SPG,

.6 BPG,

3.0 TOPG,

41.4 FG%,

27.5 3P%,

77.9 FT%


Where is KObe "the killer" at in elimination games?


what about game 7's (or 5's)? lebron has played in 5 while kobe has played in 7 of them.



Kobe Bryant G7 Stats:
21.4 PPG, 7.1 RPG, 5.1 APG, .9 SPG, 1.6 BPG, 2.0 TOPG, 39.5 FG%, 32.4 3P%, 70.2 FT%
-W/out Game 5

[Deuce Bigalow]

Da fcuk kind of avatar is that? How do you expect anyone to take you seriously with that?
What's wrong with it?

[#number6ix#]

It amazes me how you guys can talk about the same 2 people all day everyday reciting the same stats... What are y'all trying to gain???

[CavaliersFTW]

2/18
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Back when he didn't care about efficiency and his true FG% came through..
:applause:

[Bigsmoke]

You posted just FG% for the Finals :facepalm
As if its supposed to mean anything. Lebron shot 48% in 2011, but that doesn't changed the fact that he ****ing sucked and choked.

"Clutch" and being a "killer" is so much more than the last 24 seconds of a close game. How about playoff games when Kobe's team was down, like 0-1, or 1-2? Or in playoff games where the series is tied?

Some examples for you kid

2004 series vs Spurs
Game 4, Lakers down 1-2 in the series
Kobe - 42/6/5 on 15-27, 2-4 from 3

2009 series vs Rockets
Game 2, Lakers down 0-1
Kobe- 40/6/3 on 16/27, 2/3 from 3

2009 vs Nuggets
Game 3, tied 1-1
Kobe- 41/6/5 on 12/24, 2/5 from 3

Game 6, Lakers up 3-2 Close out game
Kobe- 35/6/10 on 12/20

He has many great games where he eliminated teams and prevented game 7s from happening. Kobe the "killer" has many 30+ point road closeout games to choose from, I think he has the most in nba history.

And none of them were as good as LeBron in game 6 in the ECFs

[russwest0]

12 points on 2-18 shooting :lol

[Stringer Bell]

Jordan shot 3 for 18 in a playoff game, 9 for 30 in another, and choked away game 1 of the 95' ECSF against Orlando.

Kobe shot 37% in one NBA finals and 38% in another.

Lebron shot 36% in one NBA Finals and all but disappeared in another when it mattered most.

Bird shot 35% in the 88' ECF, including a 4 for 17 stinker in the closer. They lost all their games by single digits.

Miller shot 1 for 16 in an NBA Finals game.

It happens. Both Kobe and Lebron have come up big enough times in their careers, neither of them qualify as "chokers", even if they have choked at particular times.

[CelticBaller]

Against who? the motherfvcking Celtics :applause:

[CanYouDigIt]

12 points on 2-18 shooting :lol
Those are some KD numbers. :lol