Jay-Z is not only the GOAT rapper

[christian1923]

But now also the GOAT agent!!! Got A borderline top 10 player 240 million dollars :bowdown: :bowdown:

"Scott Boras you over baby, Robinson cano you coming with me"

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[imdaman99]

:lol baseball is ruined with this asshole on his takeover tour

[KobesFinger]

I think he's GOAT but not the best ever if that makes sense? He has the skills, longevity, classics, hits and impact but I think BIG and Nas are better rappers

[christian1923]

:lol baseball is ruined with this asshole on his takeover tour
Scott Boras been ruined it lol

Lmao but its crazy. Homie just knows money. JIGGA:bowdown:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Baseball contracts are insane. I bet in three years Seattle will be trading him back to the Yankees because they just don't make enough money to justify paying 24 mil per to a declining 34 year-old for the next 7 years. I don't follow baseball outside of Boston so I could be off but I don't recall Seattle being some team on the verge that just needed one more big bat to make the series.

I really don't get the logic here. If you manage to vastly outbid the frigging Yankees shouldn't you pause to think that maybe you're making a mistake? The only way he's going to be worth it is through a significant HGH regimen.

[Go Getter]

What a nut rider, smh....I doubt Jay-Z does the negotiations himself:facepalm

[Real Men Wear Green]

What a nut rider, smh....I doubt Jay-Z does the negotiations himself:facepalm
He probably had a hand in it at least. Jay-Z's edge over his contemporaries in rap was always that he understood the business side and thus always got good contracts for himself. That's how he got so rich and why he ended up taking over Def Jam. He's a smart businessman.

[christian1923]

Baseball contracts are insane. I bet in three years Seattle will be trading him back to the Yankees because they just don't make enough money to justify paying 24 mil per to a declining 34 year-old for the next 7 years. I don't follow baseball outside of Boston so I could be off but I don't recall Seattle being some team on the verge that just needed one more big bat to make the series.

I really don't get the logic here. If you manage to vastly outbid the frigging Yankees shouldn't you pause to think that maybe you're making a mistake? The only way he's going to be worth it is through a significant HGH regimen.
They need another big signing for this signing to make sense. Maybe Nelson Cruz, Beltran, Choo. Because teams will just pitch around Cano.

[kNicKz]

How many more of Biggie's rhymes is gonna come out your fat lips?

[CelticBaller]

lol mariners are paying that much for what? 3 or 4 years of Cano's prime?

[kNicKz]

lol mariners are paying that much for what? 3 or 4 years of Cano's prime?

This ^^

But our counter move is to sign ****ing jacoby to 7 years :facepalm

[Go Getter]

He probably had a hand in it at least. Jay-Z's edge over his contemporaries in rap was always that he understood the business side and thus always got good contracts for himself. That's how he got so rich and why he ended up taking over Def Jam. He's a smart businessman.
1.) So Dame and Biggs had nothing to do with that? He got [truly] rich when he sold out his homeboys actually.
2.) My speculation is that he is a figure head...I don't trust the myth of his business acumen after he lied about the Nets. He was acting like HE brought the Nets to Brooklyn and he was a big part of it when he was really a less than 2% owner--really he was the mascot for a much richer [and more gangster I hear] Russian guy.
3.) Took over Def Jam? Def Jam sucks and the best things he did were steal an artist away from Dame [Kanye], sign J. Cole, and get Rihanna on board. Not really any ground breaking accomplishments.
4.) Can he read legal contracts? What area of business is his expertise? People say he is a good businessman and i don't understand exactly where he excels at besides making money off of trends and a stagnant genre of music. where 40 year olds like he, Diddy, and Snoop can still get away with making formulaic, unrealistic bullshit.

[christian1923]

lol mariners are paying that much for what? 3 or 4 years of Cano's prime?
Sell some tickets I guess lol

[Real Men Wear Green]

1.) So Dame and Biggs had nothing to do with that? He got [truly] rich when he sold out his homeboys actually.Whether or not he "sold out his homeboys" has little to do with what I'm saying. He's consistently made business decisions that have lined his pockets quite well.

2.) My speculation is that he is a figure head...I don't trust the myth of his business acumen after he lied about the Nets. He was acting like HE brought the Nets to Brooklyn and he was a big part of it when he was really a less than 2% owner--really he was the mascot for a much richer [and more gangster I hear] Russian guy.Sure he was a figurehead for the Nets. That doesn't mean he isn't a great businessman. If you can make money as a figurehead what's wrong with that?

3.) Took over Def Jam? Def Jam sucks and the best things he did were steal an artist away from Dame [Kanye], sign J. Cole, and get Rihanna on board. Not really any ground breaking accomplishments.The goal is to make money. If stealing Kanye makes you money, steal Kanye. What are you expecting here?

4.) Can he read legal contracts? What area of business is his expertise? People say he is a good businessman and i don't understand exactly where he excels at besides making money off of trends and a stagnant genre of music. where 40 year olds like he, Diddy, and Snoop can still get away with making formulaic, unrealistic bullshit.
He excels at making money. That pretty much defines what it means to be a good businessman. If he didn't understand business there would be no difference between him and a guy like Nas. Nas might even have been a better MC. But Jay-Z has way more $. Why?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Sell some tickets I guess lol
Is Cano even going to sell tickets? He's a very good player but I don't recall him being like a Jeter or pre-scandal A-Rod that people are flocking to the stadium for and more casual fans are aware of.

[christian1923]

1.) So Dame and Biggs had nothing to do with that? He got [truly] rich when he sold out his homeboys actually.
2.) My speculation is that he is a figure head...I don't trust the myth of his business acumen after he lied about the Nets. He was acting like HE brought the Nets to Brooklyn and he was a big part of it when he was really a less than 2% owner--really he was the mascot for a much richer [and more gangster I hear] Russian guy.
3.) Took over Def Jam? Def Jam sucks and the best things he did were steal an artist away from Dame [Kanye], sign J. Cole, and get Rihanna on board. Not really any ground breaking accomplishments.
4.) Can he read legal contracts? What area of business is his expertise? People say he is a good businessman and i don't understand exactly where he excels at besides making money off of trends and a stagnant genre of music. where 40 year olds like he, Diddy, and Snoop can still get away with making formulaic, unrealistic bullshit.
Don't waste your time hating on people like kobe LeBron jayz. you just look stupid at the end of the day.

[Go Getter]

Whether or not he "sold out his homeboys" has little to do with what I'm saying. He's consistently made business decisions that have lined his pockets quite well.
Sure he was a figurehead for the Nets. That doesn't mean he isn't a great businessman. If you can make money as a figurehead what's wrong with that?
The goal is to make money. If stealing Kanye makes you money, steal Kanye. What are you expecting here?

He excels at making money. That pretty much defines what it means to be a good businessman. If he didn't understand business there would be no difference between him and a guy like Nas. Nas might even have been a better MC. But Jay-Z has way more $. Why?

Making money doesn't necessarily make you a good businessman. Some people are just in the right place at the right time...but you make valid points sir.

[christian1923]

Is Cano even going to sell tickets? He's a very good player but I don't recall him being like a Jeter or pre-scandal A-Rod that people are flocking to the stadium for and more casual fans are aware of.
Mariner fans are fiening for a contender, if they can show the fans they're serious about winning by signing a couple more guys as well. Then i'm sure fans will come for at least the first season. Plus if you win games then of course Seattle fans will go

[Go Getter]

Don't waste your time hating on people like kobe LeBron jayz. you just look stupid at the end of the day.
So I should get on my knees and suck **** like you?

I'll pass.


Money is not the motivating factor of my life when it all boils down.

[CelticBaller]

Is Cano even going to sell tickets? He's a very good player but I don't recall him being like a Jeter or pre-scandal A-Rod that people are flocking to the stadium for and more casual fans are aware of.
The best thing he could've done is stayed in NY. Dominicans love this dude as much as big papi

[christian1923]

So I should get on my knees and suck **** like you?

I'll pass.


Money is not the motivating factor of my life when it all boils down.
No just don't say anything.

The guy has 13 number 1 albums
Endorsments
Worth 500 Million
Helped move a franchise to Brooklyn
Married to Beyonc

[christian1923]

The best thing he could've done is stay in NY. Dominicans love this dude as much as big papi
And we still will love him. There isn't a Dominican player we don't love. lol

[Go Getter]

[QUOTE=christian1923]No just don't say anything.

The guy has 13 number 1 albums
Endorsments
Worth 500 Million
Helped move a franchise to Brooklyn
Married to Beyonc

[christian1923]

1.) His last album was trash...he's from one of the poorest communities in the country yet he makes songs for rich guppies.

2.) He sold out his people at Rocafella

3.) He wifed up my boo Beyonce:lol

4.) Memph Bleek/Amil

5.) He is definitely a sharp person but he makes music about selling dope and things that are detrimental to our people yet I am sure he would not advise Blu Ivy like that. And I'm not putting the onus on him to be a role model but damn man you rich now you can talk about something else--he's super stale now.




*He is one of the best rappers in my book but a lot of his image is contrived. I doubt he is the businessman people give him credit for I see him more of an opportunist. He benefitted from Biggie, Big L, and Pac dying....*not blaming him but just pointing it out.
Which one is it man?

Anyways its just rap music regardless. Who cares. I just think its amazing to see where he is and what he does, especially seeing where he came from. GOT CANO 240 MILLLI!

[Real Men Wear Green]

The best thing he could've done is stayed in NY. Dominicans love this dude as much as big papi
The Yankees got out-bid by 70 million. If someone offered Papi 70 mil more he'd probably be going to a new team. He will also probably be hated in Seattle for the entire second half of his contract that he will hilariously fail to live up to. But after his career ends there's no way he will be able to make this kind of money and guys like him can have hundreds, even thousands of family and friends that are counting on him to bring in that huge money. You can't say no to all that cash.

[longhornfan1234]

1.) His last album was trash...he's from one of the poorest communities in the country yet he makes songs for rich guppies.

2.) He sold out his people at Rocafella

3.) He wifed up my boo Beyonce:lol

4.) Memph Bleek/Amil

5.) He is definitely a sharp person but he makes music about selling dope and things that are detrimental to our people yet I am sure he would not advise Blu Ivy like that. And I'm not putting the onus on him to be a role model but damn man you rich now you can talk about something else--he's super stale now.




*He is one of the best rappers in my book but a lot of his image is contrived. I doubt he is the businessman people give him credit for I see him more of an opportunist. He benefitted from Biggie, Big L, and Pac dying....*not blaming him but just pointing it out.
:roll: :roll:

Howe old are you? A lot of businessmen and politicians sell out their people. I bet you every businessman and politician has sold out someone close to them.

[Go Getter]

Which one is it man?

Anyways its just rap music regardless. Who cares. I just think its amazing to see where he is and what he does, especially seeing where he came from. GOT CANO 240 MILLLI!
It can't be both? He is still talking about selling dope in Marcy. I know people from Marcy projects that say he never sold dope he was a very protected by his family [nothing wrong with that].

HE makes songs about lame ass Tom Ford suits.

To me that's lame.

Cano's athletic acumen got him that contract. The Mariners were going to outbid the Yanks...idk how much Jay-Z had to do with that.

I'm pretty sure Jay-Z just gets clients and a REAL agent negotiates.

[Go Getter]

:roll: :roll:

Howe old are you? A lot of businessmen and politicians sell out their people. I bet you every businessman and politician has sold out someone close to them.
And because everyone does it that makes it okay?


If you couldn't tell my list was tongue in cheek sir.

[Real Men Wear Green]

*He is one of the best rappers in my book but a lot of his image is contrived. I doubt he is the businessman people give him credit for I see him more of an opportunist. He benefitted from Biggie, Big L, and Pac dying....*not blaming him but just pointing it out.
What you are failing to understand is that a businessman is an opportunist. That's why they call it a "big break." Something happens that a guy has a chance to profit off of and he does. Whether or not you can take advantage of the opportunities you are presented with dictates whether or not you are a good businessman.

Biggie and Pac leaving a void (Big L not so much, no disrespect to his memory but he was not as close to the mainstream as those two) probably enhanced Jay-Zs prospects but he's definitely not the only rapper whose fame grew after those two died. If anyone has a rap career that could just be put on their passing it would be Diddy.

[Go Getter]

What you are failing to understand is that a businessman is an opportunist. That's why they call it a "big break." Something happens that a guy has a chance to profit off of and he does. Whether or not you can take advantage of the opportunities you are presented with dictates whether or not you are a good businessman.

Biggie and Pac leaving a void (Big L not so much, no disrespect to his memory but he was not as close to the mainstream as those two) probably enhanced Jay-Zs prospects but he's definitely not the only rapper whose fame grew after those two died. If anyone has a rap career that could just be put on their passing it would be Diddy.


Again, I see your point and value your insight, however I disagree slightly. An opportunist is not always a businessman in my book. Living off of reputation and creating opportunities to make money off of others doesn't necessarily make you a businessman.

In America it's not about what you know it's about who you know and many rich people are plain ole lucky and have few real skills in the business world.

[christian1923]

Cano is much better but wow Dustin P needs to hire Jay z lol but wow his contract is ramen noodles compared to canos.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Again, I see your point and value your insight, however I disagree slightly. An opportunist is not always a businessman in my book. Living off of reputation and creating opportunities to make money off of others doesn't necessarily make you a businessman.

In America it's not about what you know it's about who you know and many rich people are plain ole lucky and have few real skills in the business world.
He's supposed to be worth a half billion dollars and grew up in the projects. To make it that far, if you didn't do some business I have no idea who did. You can disapprove of his methods, I'm sure if we looked over his career we could find a few things that were bad, or questionable, or whatever. But I'm just looking at him as a businessman right now, and as such he's done well.

[Go Getter]

He's supposed to be worth a half billion dollars and grew up in the projects. To make it that far, if you didn't do some business I have no idea who did. You can disapprove of his methods, I'm sure if we looked over his career we could find a few things that were bad, or questionable, or whatever. But I'm just looking at him as a businessman right now, and as such he's done well.


Being a corporate whore pays well....still doesn't make you Warren Buffett.

[BRabbiT]

Being a corporate whore pays well....still doesn't make you Warren Buffett.



:facepalm



how is he a corporate whore?

actors, athletes, writers, singers, chefs, etc....all cash in w/in corporate america.

it's not unprecedented for an entertainer to sell out to corporations in order to change their lives financially.

but, by all means, keep rambling. don't stop stop on account of logic.

[Fresh Kid]

Jay z will never ever ever be tha GOAT rapper never! Phuck dat shit!!:no:

[bdreason]

This really puts Seattle over the top.







oh wait, they'll probably still finish 4th in the division.

[christian1923]

This really puts Seattle over the top.







oh wait, they'll probably still finish 4th in the division.
They're taking steps though

[Real Men Wear Green]

Being a corporate whore pays well....still doesn't make you Warren Buffett.
I don't even know what this means. How do you make half a billion without dealing with corporations?

[The Iron Fist]

1.) So Dame and Biggs had nothing to do with that? He got [truly] rich when he sold out his homeboys actually.
2.) My speculation is that he is a figure head...I don't trust the myth of his business acumen after he lied about the Nets. He was acting like HE brought the Nets to Brooklyn and he was a big part of it when he was really a less than 2% owner--really he was the mascot for a much richer [and more gangster I hear] Russian guy.
3.) Took over Def Jam? Def Jam sucks and the best things he did were steal an artist away from Dame [Kanye], sign J. Cole, and get Rihanna on board. Not really any ground breaking accomplishments.
4.) Can he read legal contracts? What area of business is his expertise? People say he is a good businessman and i don't understand exactly where he excels at besides making money off of trends and a stagnant genre of music. where 40 year olds like he, Diddy, and Snoop can still get away with making formulaic, unrealistic bullshit.
:applause: Kids tend to forget the important details. Its like believing Mayweather is his own boss. Uh, no. He has a couple of teams, that he pays. Jay z is just the face of the product. Lol thinking as if he actually negotiated and went over contracts.

[ace23]

Haha, why is that "only" in the title?

[MMM]

This really puts Seattle over the top.







oh wait, they'll probably still finish 4th in the division.

I'm pretty sure LAA will finish 4th

The M's definitely need a move or two before surpassing the A's or Texas. Btw are they in the running for Price, because a rotation of Felix, Iwakuma, and Price is as nasty as u can get.

[Fresh Kid]

Haha, why is that "only" in the title?
:lol that niguh not even in tha top 10.

[christian1923]

:lol that niguh not even in tha top 10.
:coleman:

[L.Kizzle]

Master P was a sports agent 15 years ago.

Everything Jay-Z has done the past few years, Percy Miller has done it already!


Ugh, nana-nana!!

[christian1923]

Master P was a sports agent 15 years ago.

Everything Jay-Z has done the past few years, Percy Miller has done it already!


Ugh, nana-nana!!
Didn't he get ricky Williams a terrible contract? Lol

[L.Kizzle]

Didn't he get ricky Williams a terrible contract? Lol
Gotta start somewhere huh.

Terrible or not, (was it really that bad lol) that's not the point.

[christian1923]

Gotta start somewhere huh.

Terrible or not, (was it really that bad lol) that's not the point.
yeah he got ricky the worst deal ever for his value lol