Do people here even understand just how hard it is to make the NBA?

[blood yes]

Looking at people's posts in other threads in this forum, it shocks me that people dont understand how hard it is to make the NBA.

The NBA is absolutely no joke, and neither is the dleague.

What people fail to realize is that spotup shooters are not just spot ups in a pick up game, and big men have range in an amatuer game.

Back when I was in 10th grade, I got to see Daniel Gibson play a bit. He came to our gym as like a fundraising thing or something like that, so he wasnt even allowed to go "all out", cause if he got injured, the cavaliers would get pissed.

Daniel Gibson, who with the Cavs was a scrub 3 point shooter, was an absolute monster.

He can make some MONSTROUS dunks off the crossover dribble, and the dude shoots 40 foot shots and does NOT Miss.

Another example, last year, my senior year in HS, JAmes Young played at my school. Dude, who is playing decent at UofKentucky now, was a beast in high school.

He was a guard, yet grabbed like 25 rebounds a game, it was insane. Yet, I fear even he wont do as well in the NBA.

The NBA is much more difficult to reach than it seems, even the WORST nba players were amazing in high school

[Mirko Cro Cop]

I always laugh when I see people on here who ball on a frequent basis talking like they can hold their own against some scrub from the NBA or even the D-League.

Brian Scalabrine, looks like a bum off the street who's never worked out a day in his life if you didn't know who he was, could come into the rec center of any tier 1 school in the country and wipe the floor with any and everybody on the court with EASE. If you think you're so damn good then you'd be playing for a div 1 college right now, end of story.

And also, the premise that with enough hard work and dedication that almost anybody can make it is just flat out ignorant. Talent, and I mean God given talent is something you can't replace period. Most players are extremely talented athletes and have the x factor that puts them over the norm.

With that said tho, people who think a lot of NBA players or any professional athlete got to where they are mostly because of their talent is retarded. You don't think these guys also work hard? You have to have an extremely competitive mindset to want to challenge yourself to even be able to put yourself through those years of training and hell.

The bottom line is, the NBA = league for THE best of the best basketball players. Yes, that game where you dribble a ball and toss it in a hole. You have to be better than 7 billion other people at that "simple" task to make it into the NBA.

[GOBB]

Thanks for stating the obvious fellas. Kwame Brown is still a scrub tho.

[magnax1]

I honestly wonder at this point if Fisher could make a D1 school as a starter anymore. Everyone knows he's not in the league for his playing ability anymore.

[CelticBaller]

Who cares. Perkins still sucks

[INDI]

My cousin Sundiata Gaines was in the league for 4 years before going back to play overseas. I remember watching this kid tear his competition up since he was 8. He led the dleague in scoring only to come to the NBA to be a 3rd string pg.


I also remember seeing Jermaine O'Neal practicing in a gym and the dude was shooting 3s lights out from like 2 feet behind the line

[blood yes]

My cousin Sundiata Gaines was in the league for 4 years before going back to play overseas. I remember watching this kid tear his competition up since he was 8. He led the dleague in scoring only to come to the NBA to be a 3rd string pg.


I also remember seeing Jermaine O'Neal practicing in a gym and the dude was shooting 3s lights out from like 2 feet behind the line
This

Also, while this may not be as true with big men, NBA level guards almost definately have an incredible amount of talent

[Foster5k]

Considering the NBA looks in every nook and cranny for talent worthy enough to compete in the league, it's laughable to believe anyone in the NBA is not super talented compared to the average human.

If you're 7ft tall and mobile, welcome to the NBA. Why? Nature beats all the guys who work on their game for 24hrs a day 7 days a week 365 days a year.

[kurple]

My cousin Sundiata Gaines was in the league for 4 years before going back to play overseas. I remember watching this kid tear his competition up since he was 8. He led the dleague in scoring only to come to the NBA to be a 3rd string pg.


I also remember seeing Jermaine O'Neal practicing in a gym and the dude was shooting 3s lights out from like 2 feet behind the line
for real? i LOVED his game winner against the lebron cavs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yawMyj4zQU

[blood yes]

for real? i LOVED his game winner against the lebron cavs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yawMyj4zQU
:bowdown: :eek:

[jbryan1984]

for real? i LOVED his game winner against the lebron cavs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yawMyj4zQU

Oh yes, I remember that game very well. Think he went to Nets after that right? Last year in Jersey I believe.

[Theoo]

shut fk** up there a reason peoples in street basketballs call me lerbrywght becuse i have a speed and a size klike lerbrorn and athletics and dunk like dwight and clutch shot like kobe bryant i am like a light speeds to the courts and shot a layups and a 3pt shots all day . marked my fk** words that i well be in nba one day and i well make a game winner and i welll tell reporter about these thred that insidehoop doubt me

[BoutPractice]

Guess what guys... Theoo just had a Quad seoson at the YMCA!

[Dro]

I DON'T think people really understand. For example. I am older than George Hill, by probably 6-7 years. I have played against him when he was in high school. He went to Broad Ripple here in Indianapolis just like I did. Ive played against him plenty of times just going up there and playing ball. To be fair, he's 6-3. Same thing with Eric Gordon. He went to Lawrence North or Lawrence Central, can't remember right now, both here in Indianapolis. I have played against them many times at the YMCA, up at the high school, both of these dudes are doing whatever they want on the court and its not like there's a bunch of scrubs on the court either. I'm pretty decent myself but I'm like 5'11 and I don't have extreme athletic ability. I have a grant hill skillset with Brian Scalabrine athleticsm. I can shoot, pass and my handles are decent but could be better. But I can get by my defender and get to the basket. If I were 6-7, I'd be a beast but at 5'11, I'd need to be much more athletic than I ever was to even have a shot a D1, let alone the NBA. George Hill was unstoppable. Back then, I even thought he was better than Eric Gordon. Gordon seemed like he was taking it easy but still would have 40 easily, hitting 3's left and right and faster and taller than everyone on the court.

People who say shit like that, have never really played against NBA players at ANY level.

[Levity]

yeah there is a lot of ignorance when it comes to height and the nba.

i was at a family party the other week, and there was this chunkyish 6 foot asian dude there. while the clipper game was on, i heard this guy say to everyone in the room, that if he was 5 inches taller, he'd be in the nba.

i just looked at him and smiled. the guy wasnt even good enough to play high school ball, but apparently he blamed all of that on his lack of height, thinking his skills would translate to the nba if he was so many inches taller

this is a common misconception when it comes to the nba. if you talk to non basketball fans, or casual fans, a lot of them think its easy as pie to make the nba as long as you are the right height.

[Nuff Said]

shut fk** up there a reason peoples in street basketballs call me lerbrywght becuse i have a speed and a size klike lerbrorn and athletics and dunk like dwight and clutch shot like kobe bryant i am like a light speeds to the courts and shot a layups and a 3pt shots all day . marked my fk** words that i well be in nba one day and i well make a game winner and i welll tell reporter about these thred that insidehoop doubt me
did you spill water on your keyboard?

[HurricaneKid]

The difference between the best players in your HS to the best players in the conference to the best players in the state are enormous leaps. Then the best handful of players in the state go to bigtime college hoops factories where they best players in the state get pissed on. From there, about 20 of the best college players in the country get to go on to the NBA. It isn't even the best players, its the players who are the best athletes with the most upside.

Its not that you can't compete with NBA players. Its that you can't compete with people who can't compete with people who can't compete with NBA players.

[#number6ix#]

The difference between the best players in your HS to the best players in the conference to the best players in the state are enormous leaps. Then the best handful of players in the state go to bigtime college hoops factories where they best players in the state get pissed on. From there, about 20 of the best college players in the country get to go on to the NBA. It isn't even the best players, its the players who are the best athletes with the most upside.

Its not that you can't compete with NBA players. Its that you can't compete with people who can't compete with people who can't compete with NBA players.
This.. I remember going from rec league basketball to aau is was a huge difference... It made me think like these guys are 10x better than me and its guys 10x better than them and so on... That was the end of my hoop dreams

[kNicKz]

Played ball against Ryan Gomes a couple times....

Unstoppable

[PizzamanIRL]

I laugh at how stupid some people are when they call an NBA player a scrub.

He is 1 of only 450 players in the league and you call him a scrub? GTFO.

[imnew09]

shut fk** up there a reason peoples in street basketballs call me lerbrywght becuse i have a speed and a size klike lerbrorn and athletics and dunk like dwight and clutch shot like kobe bryant i am like a light speeds to the courts and shot a layups and a 3pt shots all day . marked my fk** words that i well be in nba one day and i well make a game winner and i welll tell reporter about these thred that insidehoop doubt me

Theoo Tell em' Kill Em'

[Andrew Wiggins]

tell that to jr smith's brother or saer sene

[chosen_one6]

I laugh at how stupid some people are when they call an NBA player a scrub.

He is 1 of only 450 players in the league and you call him a scrub? GTFO.

When people say that they are comparing them to the other people in the league. I thought this was fairly obvious.

There's no doubt in my mind the last guy on every roster in the NBA could completely destroy 99% of the population in basketball.

[kNicKz]

tell that to jr smith's brother or saer sene

as awful as Chris Smith is in the NBA, he was a solid scoring option on a Final Four team and could probably play overseas. He'd tear up a pick up game

[Budadiiii]

I laugh at how stupid some people are when they call an NBA player a scrub.

He is 1 of only 450 players in the league and you call him a scrub? GTFO.


GTFO for criticizing people on forums who criticize professional athletes. Who are you to criticize pizza boy?

[PizzamanIRL]

GTFO for criticizing people on forums who criticize professional athletes. Who are you to criticize pizza boy?

I'm a MAN!

[blood yes]

tell that to jr smith's brother or saer sene
Chris smith is an exception. Dude, if it wasnt for his brother wouldn't even be in the dleague.

He is not an nba level guard,in fact, hes ben strugglin in dleague too.he didnt evem play well in college

However,he is an exception because unlike every Isher herr, he is thr brother of an nba player.

[Budadiiii]

I'm a MAN!
In real life?

[Dictator]

I'm pretty sure 99% of ish wouldn't even be able to score against the top high school ballers.

You gotta play with the best to understand how good these guys are. The absolute worse players in the nba would be like god on the court.

[kNicKz]

He is not an nba level guard,in fact, hes ben strugglin in dleague too.he didnt evem play well in college



http://www.thecardinalconnect.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Chris-Smith-Final-Four.png

I agree that he doesn't belong in the NBA, but he was still a good D1 player who went to a final four

[Dro]

Chris smith is an exception. Dude, if it wasnt for his brother wouldn't even be in the dleague.

He is not an nba level guard,in fact, hes ben strugglin in dleague too.he didnt evem play well in college

However,he is an exception because unlike every Isher herr, he is thr brother of an nba player.
This....And I thought everyone knew Chris Smith was only in the league because of his brother.....J.R. has basically admitted this....

[blood yes]

This....And I thought everyone knew Chris Smith was only in the league because of his brother.....J.R. has basically admitted this....
Pretty much

He is however, the one exception of many. ESPECIALLY to nba guards.

So called "scrubs" like daniel gibson, toure murray, jeremy lin, chris duhon, peyton silva
Would ALL take a shit on everyone not in thr nba

Gibson was a 35 point monster scorer in one of the best basketball high school leagues in the country, silva, who doesnt even come off the bench, was a monster collrge player at louisville, murray who cant get off the KNICKS bench, was a dleague triple double threat..

The average nba guard will not miss from inside half court

[SyRyanYang]

You can't tell how quick they are because everybody is QUICK.
It's not about height or hops, quickness is the key difference.

[FKAri]

My cousin Sundiata Gaines was in the league for 4 years before going back to play overseas. I remember watching this kid tear his competition up since he was 8. He led the dleague in scoring only to come to the NBA to be a 3rd string pg.


I also remember seeing Jermaine O'Neal practicing in a gym and the dude was shooting 3s lights out from like 2 feet behind the line

Are you his cousin, Myron Gaines?

[Big Cheese]

this is true I saw kendrick perkins at a local gym. He was hitting step back fadeaways, turnaround jumpers, 3 pointers, half court shots, was breaking everyone's ankles and even dunked from the freethrow line :biggums:

[Dictator]

You can't tell how quick they are because everybody is QUICK.
It's not about height or hops, quickness is the key difference.


Stamina too.

[JMT]

You can't tell how quick they are because everybody is QUICK.
It's not about height or hops, quickness is the key difference.

That's a great comment.

Played D1 ball. 6'8". Successful and high-level player by any definition. VERY big SF/very quick PF. Ran track, high jumped. Not your big, hulking white guy. But even at the college level when I was doing well, I could see guys my size who were that step quicker that it made all the difference in the world.

There's always exceptions to the rule. The problem with many on ISH and with immature thinking in general is the thought process that you're going to be able to match the success of that one-in-a-billion exception.

[blood yes]

this is true I saw kendrick perkins at a local gym. He was hitting step back fadeaways, turnaround jumpers, 3 pointers, half court shots, was breaking everyone's ankles and even dunked from the freethrow line :biggums:
If ur trying to be funny, just stop.

Remember, perkins who is an offensivr liability Now, dropped 20-20-5-9 in high school.

Also, ur not 7 feet tall. Notice how i go more in depth with the average nba GUARD
Look at my previous above posts

[kNicKz]

That's a great comment.

Played D1 ball. 6'8". Successful and high-level player by any definition. VERY big SF/very quick PF. Ran track, high jumped. Not your big, hulking white guy. But even at the college level when I was doing well, I could see guys my size who were that step quicker that it made all the difference in the world.

There's always exceptions to the rule. The problem with many on ISH and with immature thinking in general is the thought process that you're going to be able to match the success of that one-in-a-billion exception.

What school?

[RoseCity07]

I'm a pretty decent baller. I can make 60-70 free throws in a row. I don't usually miss open shots. I can dribble with both hands and shoot off the dribble. I know if I played even the worst NBA player I couldn't even dribble around them without getting ripped right away. I would never get a shot off. Hell, there are guys I play with at Portland State that cause me problems when I bring the ball up the floor.

There are so many talented players out there. Most of the guys at 24 hour fitness are guys that never made it but are still very good. Those D1 players don't just hang it up after college. They go and play at 24 or other gyms.

I think the worst part of playing at rec centers is that everyone tries to play like they're Kobe. I bet there are a ton of players that never made it because they are ballhogs that have 0 bball IQ.

[HoopDreams247]

Pretty much

He is however, the one exception of many. ESPECIALLY to nba guards.

So called "scrubs" like daniel gibson, toure murray, jeremy lin, chris duhon, peyton silva
Would ALL take a shit on everyone not in thr nba

Gibson was a 35 point monster scorer in one of the best basketball high school leagues in the country, silva, who doesnt even come off the bench, was a monster collrge player at louisville, murray who cant get off the KNICKS bench, was a dleague triple double threat..

The average nba guard will not miss from inside half court

Lin shouldn't even be considered a scrub anymore. Top 15-18 PG in the league.

Top 18 PG in no particular order
Bledsoe
MCW (questionable; needs a full season)
Conley
Curry
Holiday
Irving
Lawson
Lillard
Lin
Parker
Paul
Rondo
Rose
Rubio (questionable)
Teague
Thomas (questionable)
Wall
Westbrook
Williams

[TheReal Kendall]

I played against Chris Porter a few years back at my HS gym when he was playing overseas ball and dude was unstoppable.

I've even played against guys that play overseas that were trying to get in the NBA that just couldn't make it.

Dude was like 6'7, long and skinny like KD and could shot lights out from any where.

It's extremely hard to make the NBA.

Hell most people on ISH wouldn't make a D1 college team.

[avonbarksdale]

I played against Chris Porter a few years back at my HS gym when he was playing overseas ball and dude was unstoppable.

I've even played against guys that play overseas that were trying to get in the NBA that just couldn't make it.

Dude was like 6'7, long and skinny like KD and could shot lights out from any where.

It's extremely hard to make the NBA.

Hell most people on ISH wouldn't make a D1 college team.


no shit... if you were good enough you would be on there

this is the league right below the nba lol

[Dro]

no shit... if you were good enough you would be on there

this is the league right below the nba lol
Actually, the Dleague is right below the NBA but I know what you were saying :D

[mjokc]

I laugh at how stupid some people are when they call an NBA player a scrub.

He is 1 of only 450 players in the league and you call him a scrub? GTFO.

Kendrick Perkins is a scrub no matter what basketball court he's on.

[TheReal Kendall]

Kendrick Perkins is a scrub no matter what basketball court he's on.

He was a athletic beast in HS.

I beat Perkins would destroy any College and rec center

[OhNoTimNoSho]

Yea can you kind internet posters of ISH gives some insight of how hard it is to make the NBA. Cus gee I dont think people really UNDERSTAND. Please tell us about your extensive experience with what it takes to make the NBA. Cus I dont think us regular folk can really grasp it.

[BuGzBuNNy]

Where is Willie Warren even at? I remember a few years back watching him laugh his way to 50 points against my high school.

[$LakerGold]

I love this thread. It puts people in a reality check mode. We're here to discuss, & there are certain limits & boundaries that YOU DO NOT TOUCH OR CROSS. LOL

[R.I.P.]

I have just submitted my CV to the Nets for a triple application as

1) A player

I

[PistonsFan#21]

To all the guys here claiming NBA players are untouchable:

do you think Derek Fisher could beat any college or even high school players 1v1?

:confusedshrug:

[TheMarkMadsen]

To all the guys here claiming NBA players are untouchable:

do you think Derek Fisher could beat any college or even high school players 1v1?

:confusedshrug:

He sure as hell could run an offense 100x better than all of them.

And could be beat any? Yeah 99% of all college/HS players

You don't realize how automatic the jumper on a guy like derrick fisher is. And open look in the NBA is a contested shot at any other level

[inclinerator]

He sure as hell could run an offense 100x better than all of them.

And could be beat any? Yeah 99% of all college/HS players

You don't realize how automatic the jumper on a guy like derrick fisher is. And open look in the NBA is a contested shot at any other level
jabara parker would beat him also randle

[TheReal Kendall]

He sure as hell could run an offense 100x better than all of them.

And could be beat any? Yeah 99% of all college/HS players

You don't realize how automatic the jumper on a guy like derrick fisher is. And open look in the NBA is a contested shot at any other level

This.

He might look slow to us but he still very quick and his handles are most likely on put.

People here really don't give NBA players enough credit.

You would probably stand a better chance at beating a college player than him beating an NBA player

[FKAri]

It's pretty easy if you're a no-lifer who has nothing else going on. I'd rather stick to inventing cold fusion and quantum computers and spend some of my disposable income watching a buncha clowns tryna put a ball in a hoop. At the end of a hard day's work the comedy of watching these losers is nice to relax to.

[TheMarkMadsen]

It's pretty easy if you're a no-lifer who has nothing else going on. I'd rather stick to inventing cold fusion and quantum computers and spend some of my disposable income watching a buncha clowns tryna put a ball in a hoop. At the end of a hard day's work the comedy of watching these losers is nice to relax to.

Tell us more about your work inventing cold fusion and quantum computers

[FKAri]

Tell us more about your work inventing cold fusion and quantum computers
It's fun. Just think of Iron man with more money and better looks. Being a Trillionaire playboy is so much fun. But sometimes I lose focus and get bored. I'll get back to inventing when my gigantic brain feels like it. Right now it's more fun being on ISH and laughing at the peasants of the world who are a slave to my family's financial system.

[TheMarkMadsen]

It's fun. Just think of Iron man with more money and better looks. Being a Trillionaire playboy is so much fun. But sometimes I lose focus and get bored. I'll get back to inventing when my gigantic brain feels like it. Right now it's more fun being on ISH and laughing at the peasants of the world who are a slave to my family's financial system.

Stop losing so much focus and actually invent cold fusion!!

[KobeClutchAsFK]

It's fun. Just think of Iron man with more money and better looks. Being a Trillionaire playboy is so much fun. But sometimes I lose focus and get bored. I'll get back to inventing when my gigantic brain feels like it. Right now it's more fun being on ISH and laughing at the peasants of the world who are a slave to my family's financial system.

I bet you work at Safeway or some shit.

[FKAri]

I bet you work at Safeway or some shit.

The reality is that I should be studying for finals but am procrastinating on the internet... :cry:

[blood yes]

Had to bring this back cause people dont seem to understnad:facepalm :facepalm

Another dumbass topic that asks how hard can it be, lmfao

[Duderonomy]

Yes the PG,SG, and SF spots are very skilled athletes. Even 6'9-7'0 PF and C must have must years of experience and game iq although while being average to above average athletes. I still believe the greatest athletes are under 6 ft because being over 6'2 can cause many health problems for highly active people. Athletes like Lebron who are tall, athletic, and relatively injury free are very rare.

[Flash31]

[QUOTE=R.I.P.]I have just submitted my CV to the Nets for a triple application as

1) A player

I

[Myth]

Salim Stoudamire just clowned on my high school when he was still a high schooler. Not even close to competitive. Yet, he struggled to make an impact in the NBA.

[tgan3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5RYIqYe5D4

I think this explains it best, scrub 3 point shooter in NBA jason kapono shot 29/30 3 pointers NBA range. If he would to play against amateur players he would look like some kind of unmissable god

Also, those 2 guard (and some pgs) to center are all f**king athletic and can pull down some crazy dunks like between the legs, 360 windmill etc in practice easily.

[tgan3]

I've played against this guy, hes maybe 5'9. This guy is probably the most athletic guy i've seen with my eyes. He could dunk two handed (Heard that was post-knee surgery somemore) on a legit rim. Playing against him, he was unstoppable.

Hes probably the quickest and also he's very firm and strong when driving to the hole. Hes midrange is automatic also.

Someone like him who's 5'9 has skills and can do a two handed dunk is already impossible to guard. I can't imagine trying to guard a guy like Nate or Isaiah Thomas whos also 5'9 but can do even more advanced dunks like 360s, btls....

[Euroleague]

I honestly wonder at this point if Fisher could make a D1 school as a starter anymore. Everyone knows he's not in the league for his playing ability anymore.

Yeah NBA is so freaking hard to make, when we have guys like Raduljica and Antetokounmpo (role player from Greek 2nd division) playing major minutes in the Bucks.............

There is total delusion in this forum, as usual.

[Djarum]

Yeah NBA is so freaking hard to make, when we have guys like Raduljica and Antetokounmpo (role player from Greek 2nd division) playing major minutes in the Bucks.............

There is total delusion in this forum, as usual.

http://replygif.net/i/1245.gif

[SacJB Shady]

Being conservative, I would say 5 to 10 percent of HS starters have NBA potential.

[dr.hee]

Yeah NBA is so freaking hard to make, when we have guys like Raduljica and Antetokounmpo (role player from Greek 2nd division) playing major minutes in the Bucks.............

There is total delusion in this forum, as usual.

You're right, quite a few scrubs have made it into the NBA. Some adjust (like Antetokounmpo), others fail miserably (Spanoulis).

:cheers: