Worst thing Kobe did to your team?

[9erempiree]

For example:

Raptor fan: Killing us with that 81.

Spurs fan: Destroying our Twin Towers with that dominant series.

If you don't know, just tell me your team and I will give you an answer.

[Project018]

Charlotte?

[inclinerator]

denver: raped one of our fans

[iamgine]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Kobe_Bryant_8.jpg

[iTare]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Kobe_Bryant_8.jpg
those ears :wtf:

[0000000]

For example:

Raptor fan: Killing us with that 81.

Spurs fan: Destroying our Twin Towers with that dominant series.

If you don't know, just tell me your team and I will give you an answer.


Great topic. I think Spurs fans have a lot more that that to add but I will let them do it. Kobe always owned the Spurs.

[0000000]

denver: raped one of our fans

And your team as well, many times.

[Jameerthefear]

Nothing compared to Lebron.

[RRR3]

Spawned fanboys like the op

[9erempiree]

Nothing compared to Lebron.

Stopped Orlando from winning a title.

[0000000]

Nothing compared to Lebron.

The same year your team beat LeBron's team, it was beaten by Kobe's team.

That is one thing.

The other thing is that poster on Dwight. No Magic player ever got dunked on as hard.

Next team please. You all got embarrassed, beaten and humiliated by Kobe at some point.

[inclinerator]

Stopped Orlando from winning a title.
pao gasol

[chazzy]

Spawned fanboys like the op
implying you have a team

[Jameerthefear]

Stopped Orlando from winning a title.
Pau Gasol did that. Not Kobe.

[BlazerRed]

those ears :wtf:
They're orc ears :lol

[9erempiree]

Charlotte?

Saying F you to the organization and it started a domino effect where the team moved and back again and changing their team's identity.

Huge impact.

[0000000]

pao gasol

Young boy, rather than looking foolish, tell us your favorite team and your memories of watching Kobe destroy your team, you crying about it and no one being able to do anything about it.

[russwest0]

For example:

Raptor fan: Killing us with that 81.

Spurs fan: Destroying our Twin Towers with that dominant series.

If you don't know, just tell me your team and I will give you an answer.

OKC fan here, tell me

[RRR3]

implying you have a team
St. Louis Cardinals

[Quizno]

Pau Gasol did that. Not Kobe.
you're trying way too hard right now

[Le Shaqtus]

Beat us in the finals...

[TheMarkMadsen]

St. Louis Cardinals

Convinced Albert Pujols to come to Los Angeles.

Next

[Magic 32]

Pau Gasol did that. Not Kobe.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s49/Mr_Muggles/GIFS/JimSigh.gif

[0000000]

OKC fan here, tell me


Utter destruction in the 2010 playoffs. Your team goes back to it's Seattle Supersonics days. And it gets really fun going over those days of Kobe demolition.
Props though, your OKC have beaten the Lakers and Russell Westbrook is generally 2nd favorite player of all Kobe fans.

[9erempiree]

OKC fan here, tell me

Eliminating you guys in the 1st round in dominating fashion. That was OKC's best team and they would have went on to win the championship but Kobe stopped them.

[InspiredLebowski]

The 2000 Finals. Despite Jalen Rose's best efforts.

[iTare]

Eliminating you guys in the 1st round in dominating fashion. That was OKC's best team and they would have went on to win the championship but Kobe stopped them.
Ha.

[0000000]

Beat us in the finals...


You gotta make it better than that.

Tell us how it affected you on the emotional level and how desperate and helpless you felt watching Kobe dominate your team. Give us the details.

[Magic 32]

Raptors :lol :lol :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDDXGSle2S4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7P4SVFG7a8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG_-HHVCzbU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8F47A2UmTM&t=1m58s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ymW7UDaMs0

[TheMarkMadsen]

You gotta make it better than that.

Tell us how it affected you on the emotional level and how desperate and helpless you felt watching Kobe dominate your team. Give us the details.


:facepalm

[RoundMoundOfReb]

81 points

[0000000]

If you're a player first fan, you can also name your favorite player. We"ll gladly remind you of the worst thing Kobe did to your favorite player.
Anyone playing from mid late 90's to now applies, Kobe owned them all.

[RRR3]

Convinced Albert Pujols to come to Los Angeles.

Next
Yeah because we've been so bad since Pujols left. :rolleyes:

[HoopsFanNumero1]

You gotta make it better than that.

Tell us how it affected you on the emotional level and how desperate and helpless you felt watching Kobe dominate your team. Give us the details.

:biggums:

Some of you guys are sexually obsessed with Kobe.

[RRR3]

:blah Kobe :blah Kobe :blah Kobe
:sleeping

[InspiredLebowski]

Yeah because we've been so bad since Pujols left. :rolleyes:What was it, like 6/150 they offered Pujols and wouldn't budge on it? More than fair at the time, but holy shit even that woulda been a disaster. MOZELIAK!

[GrapeApe]

I can't think of anything bad Kobe's done to the Heat but he did indirectly help us win a championship by driving Shaq out of LA. Thanks Bean.

[The Iron Fist]

pao gasol
:biggums:
has 0 playoff wins when kobe is not in same lineup.:hammerhead:

[0000000]

I can't think of anything bad Kobe's done to the Heat but he did indirectly help us win a championship by driving Shaq out of LA. Thanks Bean.


And you helped us win 2. Thank you as well.

[0000000]

:sleeping


Your favorite team, please.

[RRR3]

What was it, like 6/150 they offered Pujols and wouldn't budge on it? More than fair at the time, but holy shit even that woulda been a disaster. MOZELIAK!
Yeah. AP is one of my all time favorite players but it worked out well for us.

[GrapeApe]

And you helped us win 2. Thank you as well.

Touche. :cheers:

[RRR3]

Your favorite team, please.
STL Cardinals. 6 More rings than Kobe

[RoundMoundOfReb]

I can't think of anything bad Kobe's done to the Heat but he did indirectly help us win a championship by driving Shaq out of LA. Thanks Bean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRS8wmb64XE

[0000000]

STL Cardinals. 6 More rings than Kobe

They have all those rings because they don't compete in the same sport as Kobe. You know that, right?

[gts]

T Bagged my hero Dwight so bad it turned me into a Anime loving Nancy Boy :facepalm

[HoopsFanNumero1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRS8wmb64XE

I wouldn't call a fluke three-pointer dominating the Heat in any way. Wade and Lebron have always given him trouble.

[RRR3]

:facepalm
Very mature.

[DMAVS41]

63 in 3 qtrs...outscored the entire mavs team...

:cry:

[Jameerthefear]

:facepalm
i remember you were nice to me once.

[iDunk]

Dropping 60 something on us @ the Garden.

[gts]

i remember you were nice to me once.lol and I remember when you weren't a worthless troll and actually seemed to care about what you posted

[PistonsFan#21]

For example:


If you don't know, just tell me your team and I will give you an answer.


Detroit Pistons...

:pimp:

[Jameerthefear]

lol and I remember when you weren't a worthless troll and actually seemed to care about what you posted
i do care about what i post. fck laker fans though lol.

[Dreamin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH-0gLhqpJg


And that whole game 7 thing awhile back...

[HoopsFanNumero1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH-0gLhqpJg


And that whole game 7 thing awhile back...

Posts: 1

[chazzy]

i do care about what i post. fck laker fans though lol.
You hate Laker fans because they troll a player you hate

[Scholar]

Lakers: He forced the FO to have Shaq traded away. :(

[VIntageNOvel]

another hit thread :applause:

expect no less from OP

either it's locked within 5 minutes or its a hit :bowdown:

[Dreamin]

Posts: 1

Im a long time lurker as you can see.

Aint got nothing on this Dec 2011!

[G-Funk]

I can't think of anything bad Kobe's done to the Heat but he did indirectly help us win a championship by driving Shaq out of LA. Thanks Bean.


http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/89431/kobe-game-winner-vs-heat-o.gif

[G-Funk]

Your favorite team, please.

Rockets

[imdaman99]

Dropping 60 something on us @ the Garden.
I thought this was more vicious. Did his reverse throwdown on Spree :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqiViGHl8jM

[FKAri]

I thought this was more vicious. Did his reverse throwdown on Spree :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqiViGHl8jM

Damn I miss VC. He is so much more graceful in the air compared to these other guys.

[MMM]

The Lakers beat us in 7 in 10 but what Fisher did in the last 5 mins of game 3 sickens me

[russwest0]

Eliminating you guys in the 1st round in dominating fashion. That was OKC's best team and they would have went on to win the championship but Kobe stopped them.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

The Lakers beat us in 7 in 10 but what Fisher did in the last 5 mins of game 3 sickens me
http://i.minus.com/iJxCEd4txvCD1.gif

[PickernRoller]

Im a long time lurker as you can see.

Aint got nothing on this Dec 2011!

He's an alt himself so don't pay attention to that fool.

Lakers: Injure his Achilles...

RRR3 still trying to be a troll I see. Pathetic indeed.

[Xiao Yao You]

When AK smothered him for a half early in his career and Kobe didn't give him credit! :facepalm

[0000000]

Rockets


The list is just too long. Kobe started humiliating Rockets early. And kept it up for most of his career. Yes, Kobe has eliminated the Rocketd from the playoffs many times. Scored big on them many times.

But how many players dunked on both Hakeem and Yao so viciuously? So, I will go with that.

On a related note, Rockets used to have really likeable centers. They just went 180 this year.

[0000000]

When AK smothered him for a half early in his career and Kobe didn't give him credit! :facepalm



If you're trying to tell us indirectly that Utah is your favorite team, we can immediatly remind you of all the nasty things Kobe did to Utah.

[kurple]

denver: raped one of our fans
:lol

this

[INDI]

Charlotte?

probably the worst. He left them for the lakers

[Andrei89]

And your team as well, many times.


But the OP asked what is the WORST.

Guess raping a fan is worst no?

:lol :lol :lol

[INDI]

Detroit Pistons...

:pimp:

http://youtu.be/bvo_ca9cTjk

Hit the long 3 to send into overtime for the win preventing the sweep. Stateline was 33/7/4/2

In 06 during his 40 point game streak everyone said he couldn't do it to the pistons because of their stingy defense. He dropped 40 with the W

[AintNoSunshine]

denver: raped one of our fans
:roll: This is good.

He's done nothing to my team, maybe a harmless game winner in the meaningless regular season?

[AintNoSunshine]

http://youtu.be/bvo_ca9cTjk

Hit the long 3 to send into overtime for the win preventing the sweep. Stateline was 33/7/4/2

In 06 during his 40 point game streak everyone said he couldn't do it to the pistons because of their stingy defense. He dropped 40 with the W


That's sad:lol Prevented a sweep:lol as if 4-1 isn't embarrassing enough:lol

[INDI]

That's sad:lol Prevented a sweep:lol as if 4-1 isn't embarrassing enough:lol

Still he hit the shot. Doesnt matter what happened in the other games.

dont forget adding them to the 40pt club. How many other players was putting up 40 on the pistons then???? Especially with them knowing what he was coming into the game to do

[HoopsFanNumero1]

http://youtu.be/bvo_ca9cTjk

Hit the long 3 to send into overtime for the win preventing the sweep. Stateline was 33/7/4/2

In 06 during his 40 point game streak everyone said he couldn't do it to the pistons because of their stingy defense. He dropped 40 with the W

:biggums:

You could find those kind of games for literally any star. I mean we're talking about a series where he literally chucked the team out of contention.

[imnew09]

:biggums:

You could find those kind of games for literally NONE star. I mean we're talking about a series where he literally BAILED the team out to playoff

Fixed. Major fixed. get ur shit right

[fpliii]

Great thread.

[Miller for 3]

Probably sitting out with injury? Kobe playing = chucking and usually a W for my team.

[9erempiree]

Boston: Beat them in game 7. Caused Boston fans to chang MVP.

Knicks: 61 at the Mecca of Kobe.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Fixed. Major fixed. get ur shit right

:rolleyes:

[Fresh Kid]

.

Knicks: 61 at the Mecca of Kobe.
I was tight at Kobe that day, bad memories:facepalm

[9erempiree]

I was tight at Kobe that day, bad memories:facepalm

I wish I was there. NYC and Kobe going off. That is some memorable shit right there.

[9erempiree]

Bulls: He shamelessly swagger jacked our franchises best player's mannerisms, character and game.

And contrived a creepy public perception that he's similar, but in reality is a great but pale imitation. Cover band, derivative Jordan.

You got a great imagination. Ever thought of writing children's books?

[alec613]

Stopped Orlando from winning a title.

He's still too young to remember that.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Inb4 9er says Jordan copied Kobe.

[9erempiree]

Listen, Kobe is arguably my 2nd favorite player ever. Are we really going to act like he didn't copy near everything about Jordan's persona, his game, and mannerisms?

He's even tried to replicate, or contrive similar famous narrative games Jordan had.

Kobe didn't really carve out his own legacy, persona or narrative. That's why everyone considers him the ultimate Jordan derivative from a generation of players that tried to follow in Jordan's footsteps. Doesn't mean he isn't great, but seriously. Kobe would basically be the ultimate Jordan stan.

Stop pretending he isn't. In some cases, he's almost a shameful lack of self awareness of his aping mannerisms and style of Jordan.

Do you really need me to post visual evidence for proof?

:facepalm

Can you explain how your hero copied 3peat Kobe during his return? Kobe's game worked in that era and MJ's game was dated. So he took some pointers from the Mamba.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly1cdeGwNx1qgjs8go1_500.jpg
http://s13.postimg.org/uu3ej0dfb/20040626_nets_st_115113.jpg

[SamuraiSWISH]

9erempire, I love you relentless troll abilities. Yes, Wizards Jordan copied 3 peat Kobe, who was imitating Jordan's game on the Bulls. So ... you're trying to say Jordan was imitating himself? Brilliant.

[alec613]

9erempire, I love you relentless troll abilities. Yes, Wizards Jordan copied 3 peat Kobe, hwo was imitating Jordan's game on the Bulls. So ... you're trying to say Jordan was imitating himself? Brilliant.

Nope, you just said it yourself.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Listen, Kobe is arguably my 2nd favorite player ever. Are we really going to act like he didn't copy near everything about Jordan's persona, his game, and mannerisms?

He's even tried to replicate, or contrive similar famous narrative games Jordan had.

Kobe didn't really carve out his own legacy, persona or narrative. That's why everyone considers him the ultimate Jordan derivative from a generation of players that tried to follow in Jordan's footsteps. Doesn't mean he isn't great, but seriously. Kobe would basically be the ultimate Jordan stan.

Stop pretending he isn't. In some cases, he's almost a shameful lack of self awareness of his aping mannerisms and style of Jordan.

Do you really need me to post visual evidence for proof?

You can't be this stupid.

[SamuraiSWISH]

You can't be this stupid.
Can you? For example: The "You Can't Guard Me" game v.s. Shane Battier in the 2009 WCSF. A shameless, lack of self awareness attempt at re-creating his own version of Jordan's "He Can't Guard Me" game v.s. Gerald Wilkins in the 1993 ECF.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Listen, Kobe is arguably my 2nd favorite player ever. Are we really going to act like he didn't copy near everything about Jordan's persona, his game, and mannerisms?

He's even tried to replicate, or contrive similar famous narrative games Jordan had.

Kobe didn't really carve out his own legacy, persona or narrative. That's why everyone considers him the ultimate Jordan derivative from a generation of players that tried to follow in Jordan's footsteps. Doesn't mean he isn't great, but seriously. Kobe would basically be the ultimate Jordan stan.

Stop pretending he isn't. In some cases, he's almost a shameful lack of self awareness of his aping mannerisms and style of Jordan.

Do you really need me to post visual evidence for proof?

Damn just imagine how great Kobe could be if he wasn't consumed with being a brilliant actor while simultaneously being an NBA legend.

[Inferno]

Well...

Worst thing he did for himself was tear his Achilles...

[SamuraiSWISH]

Damn just imagine how great Kobe could be if he wasn't consumed with being a brilliant actor while simultaneously being an NBA legend.
Kobe has no obsessions besides basketball. He's done his best to try and best Jordan. Guy is playing till his wheels fall off just to get to 6 rings to compare to Jordan. Has taken him way more seasons to match MJ's scoring out put. Poor guy, if Jordan didn't retire the first time he'd be too far out of reach for virtually everyone.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Can you? For example: The "You Can't Guard Me" game v.s. Shane Battier in the 2009 WCSF. A shameless, lack of self awareness attempt at re-creating his own version of Jordan's "He Can't Guard Me" game v.s. Gerald Wilkins in the 1993 ECF.

I don't know what's more delusional that you think Jordan invented that phrase or that anybody considers that a Kobe moment besides lunatic haters.

[secund2nun]

Suns: Failed to beat us both tries he had even though he was in his prime and for one of the series Amare was out exposing him for being massively overrated without an elite front court to carry him.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Can you? For example: The "You Can't Guard Me" game v.s. Shane Battier in the 2009 WCSF. A shameless, lack of self awareness attempt at re-creating his own version of Jordan's "He Can't Guard Me" game v.s. Gerald Wilkins in the 1993 ECF.

Or one of his many "flu games".

[9erempiree]

9erempire, I love you relentless troll abilities. Yes, Wizards Jordan copied 3 peat Kobe, who was imitating Jordan's game on the Bulls. So ... you're trying to say Jordan was imitating himself? Brilliant.

To be quite honest with you, I don't understand why people say Kobe copied MJ when there are differences between their game.

Any real basketball fan with an keen eye to detail can tell you they are different players.

Kobe's game extends through out the entire court. Where MJ's game was a lot closer to the basket. Kobe is a better finisher and power dunker where MJ was much more finesse.

[9erempiree]

Can you? For example: The "You Can't Guard Me" game v.s. Shane Battier in the 2009 WCSF. A shameless, lack of self awareness attempt at re-creating his own version of Jordan's "He Can't Guard Me" game v.s. Gerald Wilkins in the 1993 ECF.

:facepalm

Suddenly players can't tell other that they can't guard them?

We should take it to another level. Kobe copied MJ because he's black. Chews bubble gum. Wear Nikes. Dribbles a basketball. Laces up his shoes a certain way.

You guys are starting to reach for the moon.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Kobe has no obsessions besides basketball. He's done his best to try and best Jordan. Guy is playing till his wheels fall off just to get to 6 rings to compare to Jordan. Has taken him way more seasons to match MJ's scoring out put. Poor guy, if Jordan didn't retire the first time he'd be too far out of reach for virtually everyone.

Yeah that's true. I could even imagine him buying stake in a team and playing until he's 40 and when he can longer hang embarrass himself by becoming the least successful owner in the league.

[9erempiree]

Kobe has no obsessions besides basketball. He's done his best to try and best Jordan. Guy is playing till his wheels fall off just to get to 6 rings to compare to Jordan. Has taken him way more seasons to match MJ's scoring out put. Poor guy, if Jordan didn't retire the first time he'd be too far out of reach for virtually everyone.

Yea...the goal is to stop winning championships because you are going to be labelled as someone trying to copy MJ.

:facepalm

[SamuraiSWISH]

I don't know what's more delusional that you think Jordan invented that phrase or that anybody considers that a Kobe moment besides lunatic haters.
No, the point is Kobe was trying to imitate a moment. A major fail. It's not delusional when it makes any basketball fan who viewed both feel awkward at the blatant fugazy imitation.


Or one of his many "flu games".
Exactly.

Why can't Kobe stans like Yao Ming's Foot, 9erempire, and TheMarkMadsen just admit and own the fact that Kobe has shamelessly tried to copy everything about Jordan.

Even down to the legacy of Jordan's hard work, waking up early to train with players, "The Breakfast Club" etc.

[9erempiree]

Suns: Failed to beat us both tries he had even though he was in his prime and for one of the series Amare was out exposing him for being massively overrated without an elite front court to carry him.

Suns: Dominated them in the playoffs and proceeded with the famous pat the coach on the ass shot.

He has destroyed the Suns.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

People here really trying to act like this guy didn't copy Jordan?

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ln41r7dMf31qb6xqho1_400.jpg

Really? :oldlol:

[secund2nun]

Suns: Dominated them in the playoffs and proceeded with the famous pat the coach on the ass shot.

He has destroyed the Suns.

With elite front courts. Prime Kobe with no elite front court lost in 5 to a healthy Suns team and even lost to a suns team without Amare.

0-2.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Can we just get the official list of things Jordan invented while we have the head Jordan mythologists here?

Trash talking?
Playing with a flu?
Chewing gum?
Raising your hand in the air in celebration?
Working hard?

[9erempiree]

Can we just get the official list of things Jordan invented while we have the head Jordan mythologists here?

Trash talking?
Playing with a flu?
Chewing gum?
Raising your hand in the air in celebration?

Wearing Nikes.
Gatorade...before MJ nobody drank fluids during the game.
Shaved head.
Playing with socks.
Using powder before games.

Being black. If you were black then you were jacking his swag.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Really? You think something like this is coincidence?

http://alexfolzi.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Kobe-Bryant-vs.-Michael-Jordan-11.jpg

No one does this stuff besides Kobe. Relentless imitation. How could any self respecting basketball fan not acknowledge the elephant in the room in regards to Kobe copying Jordan.

I don't see LeBron, Durant, CP3, Iverson or anyone else doing stuff like. It isn't a coincidence. Kobe's whole swagger is ripped off directly from Jordan. If you can't conceit that then you're being blissfully ignorant.

Kobe's amazing, top ten all-time. But clearly Derivative Jordan. It's one thing to be inspired by greatness, like LeBron wearing #23 in tribute. It's another thing to blatantly try to be someone else, right down to mannerisms. It's borderline creepy. Be yourself.

That's why Kobe would've never been able to eclipse Jordan even if he was the better basketball player, which he isn't. He's too tightly wound and wrapped up in being someone who already existed than he is the first Kobe.

[9erempiree]

http://alexfolzi.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Kobe-Bryant-vs.-Michael-Jordan-11.jpg

Really? You don't think this accident? No one does this stuff besides Kobe. Relentless imitation. How could any self respecting basketball fan not acknowledge the elephant in the room in regards to Kobe copying Jordan.

I don't see LeBron, Durant, CP3, Iverson or anyone else doing stuff like. It isn't a coincidence. Kobe's whole swagger is ripped off directly from Jordan. If you can't conceit that then you're being blissfully ignorant.

Kobe's amazing, top ten all-time. But clearly Derivative Jordan.

Better not fist pump or jump for joy because you will be labeled as a copycat.

Tiger Woods better not fist pump.

:facepalm

[Yao Ming's Foot]

http://alexfolzi.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Kobe-Bryant-vs.-Michael-Jordan-11.jpg

Really? You don't think this accident? No one does this stuff besides Kobe. Relentless imitation. How could any self respecting basketball fan not acknowledge the elephant in the room in regards to Kobe copying Jordan.

I don't see LeBron, Durant, CP3, Iverson or anyone else doing stuff like. It isn't a coincidence. Kobe's whole swagger is ripped off directly from Jordan. If you can't conceit that then you're being blissfully ignorant.

Kobe's amazing, top ten all-time. But clearly Derivative Jordan.

Yep nobody heard of jumping for joy until Jordan did it.

The sad thing is you are genuinely this delusional rather than an amusing troll. I

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

You can't be this stupid.

It's true. Kobe is a legend, no doubt, but a Jordan derivative none the less.

Kobe:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0LUgJMym5Y#t=0m28s
MJ:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1W3AdXHEA4#t=0m36s

^Just bizarre. Dude looks EXACTLY like Mike right there.

[9erempiree]

I guess someone better give Kobe the memo to stop dropping 40 on teams because he's copying MJ.

:facepalm

The fact of the matter is MJ copied 3peat Kobe and was a less dominant version of Kobe.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Is there anything Kobe can do on the basketball court that wouldn't be immitating Jordan?

[9erempiree]

Is there anything Kobe can do on the basketball court that wouldn't be immitating Jordan?

He's black and he plays basketball. I guess nothing then.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Come on Kobe Cult, just own the fact he's an imitation and move on ... I mean seriously:

http://halestormsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Michael-Jordan-and-Kobe-Bryant_display_image.jpg

It doesn't make me enjoy him less.

For an analogy ... I like the Robert Downey Jr. Iron Man trilogy, even though it tries to be thematically a rip off of the superior Christian Bale Dark Knight trilogy that I love.

It is what it is, but it's been talked about for a long time. Any of the insane Kobe Cult denying it is delusional.

[Jameerthefear]

kobe fans in denial

[9erempiree]

Come on Kobe Cult, just own the fact he's an imitation and move on ... I mean seriously:

http://halestormsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Michael-Jordan-and-Kobe-Bryant_display_image.jpg

It doesn't make me enjoy him less.

For an analogy ... I like the Robert Downey Jr. Iron Man trilogy, even though it tries to be thematically a rip off of the superior Christian Bale Dark Knight trilogy that I love.

It is what it is, but it's been talked about for a long time. Any of the insane Kobe Cult denying it is delusional.

You are a casual basketball fan. You see players shoot a jumper or fade away and immediately think it's copying.

I am a purist and have an eye for detail. They are different players. I've seen Kobe and MJ do things that neither one can imitate.

[K Xerxes]

I am a purist and have an eye for detail. They are different players. I've seen Kobe and MJ do things that neither one can imitate.

For sure. MJ can't imitate all the bricks Kobe throws up each and every game.

[gts]

Seriously, I mean look:

http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/51659685_8.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xQJOojMFnY0/TaMaZOnFYeI/AAAAAAAAAaI/a2uROQBC5ks/s1600/kobe-pose-large.jpg

Iverson, Pierce, Wade, LeBron, Durant ... none of them do this imitation game stuff that Kobe so readily does. Kobe Cult wants to take the straw man argument. No one is saying MJ invented gum chewing, a fist pump, etc. But the execution of it is why it's such a blatant plagiarism of another athlete. He's not doing something as simple as a movement.

Kobe's stealing a persona. It's always been so alarmingly blatant and contrived on Kobe's part. It always played into his likability factor too.

And much like the delusional, in denial Kobe Cult. He never acknowledged it. He always said Magic was his favorite player. Really, dude? When his game, hell his on court character and persona is so blatantly based on Jordan.

Or letting the media know he was shooting jumpers after a loss in Miami, to contrive his yearning to win. Like come on, if it was genuine he would've told no one.

Kobe, much like his fans, and his refusal to admit the obvious is what makes these things all the more creepy. If Kobe and his fans acknowledges his knock off Jordan behavior, we could all move on. And appreciate him as a replica Jordan, carrying on the game's greatest ever legacy even when he no longer plays.

Kobe carried the Jordan mantle. It's odd that he didn't just admit what we all see.


Another ISH poster allowing Kobe to ruin his life... lol @ anyone being this concerned about another person's persona

Kobe still's the most relevant player in the league just because his detractors can't let go..

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Seriously, I mean look:

http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/51659685_8.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xQJOojMFnY0/TaMaZOnFYeI/AAAAAAAAAaI/a2uROQBC5ks/s1600/kobe-pose-large.jpg

Iverson, Pierce, Wade, LeBron, Durant ... none of them do this imitation game stuff that Kobe so readily does. Kobe Cult wants to take the straw man argument. No one is saying MJ invented gum chewing, a fist pump, etc. But the execution of it is why it's such a blatant plagiarism of another athlete. He's not doing something as simple as a movement.

Kobe's stealing a persona. It's always been so alarmingly blatant and contrived on Kobe's part. It always played into his likability factor too.

And much like the delusional, in denial Kobe Cult. He never acknowledged it. He always said Magic was his favorite player. Really, dude? Or letting the media know he was shooting jumpers after a loss in Miami, to contrive his yearning to win. Like come on, if it was genuine he would've told no one.

Kobe, much like his fans, and his refusal to admit the obvious is what makes these things all the more creepy. If Kobe and his fans acknowledges his knock off Jordan behavior, we could all move on. And appreciate him as a replica Jordan, carrying on the game's ever legacy even when he no longer plays.

Kobe carried the Jordan mantle. It's odd that he didn't just admit what we all see.

The entire Jordan persona was created by some old white suits who can barely dribble a basketball. The fact that you consider it a life mission to protect it is beyond comprehension.

http://esg6rzdhdg9i115s.zippykid.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/lebron-james-1.jpg

http://www.fbasketballblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/dwyanewade5.jpg

http://cdn2.newsok.biz/cache/r620-fb558616385f5bbfecee76c1a88074ba.jpg

http://media.wbur.org/wordpress/1/files/2011/01/0104_CELTICS-TIMBERWOLVES-630x486.jpg

:facepalm

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Look at this (http://youtu.be/v27Hk5OIe-k?t=42s)video. Seriously, how many basketball players stick their tongue out while dribbling. He didn't just copy Jordan's move and game. He actually went out of his way to copy his mannerisms and it's hilarious watching these delusional Kobetards deny it.

[SamuraiSWISH]

The fact that you consider it a life mission to protect it is beyond comprehension.
Life mission? The hell ... because I'm pointing out the obvious? You honestly don't think Kobe apes Jordan? Well, have fun living in a delusional world. It wasn't just his game. It's the obvious imitation of even subtle mannerisms. If you're a hardcore fan and pay attention to detail. It's glaring.

[red1]

future reps to samuraiswish

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Look at this (http://youtu.be/v27Hk5OIe-k?t=42s)video. Seriously, how many basketball players stick their tongue out while dribbling. He didn't just copy Jordan's move and game. He actually went out of his way to copy his mannerisms and it's hilarious watching these delusional Kobetards deny it.


http://blogimages.thescore.com/tbj/files/2011/05/dirk-nowitzki-tongue.jpg

http://lakers.topbuzz.com/gallery/d/297532-1/Steve+Nash+tongue+out+dribbles+the+ball+with+Pau+G asol+trailing.JPG

:facepalm

[red1]

In all seriousness no athlete swaggerjacked another to the extent that kobe bit michael. It doesnt come down to one pose or another it comes down to EVERYTHING in the early years. He doesnt do it anymore but frobe to 06-07ish kobe used to move and act exactly like mike. Im not talking during gameplay im talking the way he would run down the court after a shot, the way he would intently chew gum when the camera zoomed in on him, etc. No shame in emulating the GOAT but it is what it is

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Life mission? The hell ... because I'm pointing out the obvious? You honestly don't think Kobe apes Jordan? Well, have fun living in a delusional world. It wasn't just his game. It's the obvious imitation of even subtle mannerisms. If you're a hardcore fan and pay attention to detail. It's glaring.

Is there any common human emotion/gesture or mannerism that Kobe could bring to the court tomorrow that wouldn't be considered imitating Jordan?

[TheMarkMadsen]

It's true. Kobe is a legend, no doubt, but a Jordan derivative none the less.

Kobe:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0LUgJMym5Y#t=0m28s
MJ:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1W3AdXHEA4#t=0m36s

^Just bizarre. Dude looks EXACTLY like Mike right there.


He drops 40 shooting 3's and pull up jumpers so he's copying Jordan?

:lol

Swish is an imbecile. Same guy who compared Paul George to Al Harrington an tried to twist an interview George gave to make it look like he was a selfish player.

He claims Kobe tried to push certain narratives to match Jordan's moments? Say whaaaaaat. Is Kobe calling up journalist telling them he has a flu and to call it the flu game? :lol I'm a pretty big Kobe fan and the only "flu" game I can remember was a regular season game a few years back where it was questionable if he would play or not because he was sick...

YMF just posted a bunch of pics of other players "celebrating like Jordan" so I guess they are copying Jordan as well? Hell I fist pump like that when I get excited am I copyin Jordan too?

And it cracks me up to see Swish posting pics of Mj & Kobe posting up, yeah both are using their ass and leverage to create space NOBODY DID THAT BEFORE JORDAN RIGHT??

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

:oldlol: at Yao Ming's Foot trolling. Deep down he knows the truth. Hell, it's the #1 reason I like watching Kobe. You can totally see Mikes influence on his game It's like a part of Mike has carried on in players like DWade, Bron and Bean. I really enjoy watching all three.

[KingBeasley08]

Copying Jordan doesn't take away from Kobe's legacy. But no point in denying it. Kobe comes off as fake whereas Jordan truly radiated swag. That's why one's a Top 10 player ever and the other is the GOAT

[SamuraiSWISH]

:oldlol: at Yao Ming's Foot trolling. Deep down he knows the truth. Hell, it's the #1 reason I like watching Kobe. You can totally see Mikes influence on his game It's like a part of Mike has carried on in players like DWade, Bron and Bean. I really enjoy watching all three.
Exactly. YMF with that go to straw man argument in his troll attempts. Making it his life mission to try to degrade his favorite player's obvious favorite player.

:facepalm

TheMarkMadsen is another delusional retard. Kid is in total denial of the obvious. Kobe swagger jacked Jordan. Not just inspiration, but literally mimicking mannerisms.

[red1]

Is there any common human emotion/gesture or mannerism that Kobe could bring to the court tomorrow that wouldn't be considered imitating Jordan?
How can a kobe fan of all people act like kobe swaggerjacking mike isnt a reality :lol

[9erempiree]

I thought I have seen it all.

-Kobe is copying MJ because he put up 30k points
-Trying to win 6 championships
-MVP
-Scoring title
-Slam dunk contest winner


They are reaching. Which is fine with me because if they can follow Kobe so religiously and point out the similarities, then my job is basically done here.

I want Kobe and myself to be living in their minds rent free.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

How can a kobe fan of all people act like kobe swaggerjacking mike isnt a reality :lol

No one is answering the question. :confusedshrug:

It looks like there is nothing Kobe can do on the basketball court either by playing basketball or by making faces at the camera that wouldn't be considered copying Jordan.

And you wonder why Laker fans don't take you seriously?

[Roc Nation]

Not surprised that Kobe fans refuse to see the truth. Most of his stans on this site are younger Asian men that never watched basketball till 2005 or 2006. Their opinions of Jordan are purely stuck on statistics. Only someone who watched basketball knows that Kobe is copying actions Jordan already popularized

[alec613]

Worst thing LeBron and Kobe did... the creation of the stans

[red1]

No one is answering the question. :confusedshrug:

It looks like there is nothing Kobe can do on the basketball court either by playing basketball or by making faces at the camera that wouldn't be considered copying Jordan.

And you wonder why Laker fans don't take you seriously?
We are not talking current kobe. His personality has changed like you would expect anyone's to change over the course of such a long career. He dropped all of his contrived habits and now he is one of the realest players in the league. Back in the early 2000s though no player in the league mirrored another as much as kobe mirrored jordan. The way he talked, walked, everything. They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery so we know where he was coming from as well. If you act like this wasnt the case then you are proving that you are either uninformed or dishonest because that shit was blatant

[hitmanyr2k]

Anyone saying Kobe hasn't jacked all of Jordan's mannerisms and persona is kidding themselves lol. That dude has copied Mike all the way down to the championship celebration :oldlol: I still remember when the Lakers won the title in 2009 Kobe's first instinct was to mimic Jordan's 1992 celebration. It was such an EXACT impersonation that it was impossible it was an accident.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

We are not talking current kobe. His personality has changed like you would expect anyone's to change over the course of such a long career. He dropped all of his contrived habits and now he is one of the realest players in the league. Back in the early 2000s though no player in the league mirrored another as much as kobe mirrored jordan. The way he talked, walked, everything. They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery so we know where he was coming from as well. If you act like this wasnt the case then you are proving that you are either uninformed or dishonest because that shit was blatant

So you want us to believe that while at the same time that Kobe was putting in the work to go from a teenager to one of the best players in the game he was working on his acting skills such that lone Jordan mythologists were able to pick up his subtle mimicry?

Do you understand that people get paid millions of dollars and to imitate and act because its insanely difficult? Someone like Frank Caliendo has to study and practice and study and practice but Kobe matched his skill by watching some videotapes in between basketball practices growing up?

[STATUTORY]

How can a kobe fan of all people act like kobe swaggerjacking mike isnt a reality :lol

it's simply MJ fans projecting and a limitation of the cognitive process. We as people necessarily view the world and understand it by making connections between words, concepts, images, ideas. This is really what the process of thinking is, an organic process of associating mobile metaphors with other experiences.

Because Kobe came after MJ, for the MJ stans, it's impossible to view Kobe as anything other than a copy of MJ because the concept of 6ft6 GOAT level SG has becomes so ingrained in the very identity of MJ for them. So this whole Kobe swaggerjacking MJ thing is more of a problem of MJ stans' perception as oppose to reality.

We really gonna act like fadeways, fistpumps, and sticking out tongue is swaggerjacking?

the moment Kobe marries some female version of Prince then I would say you have a point

I feel bad for MJ stans, they can't appreciate Kobe or any other player as anything but an approximation or through comparison to their idol.

[red1]

So you want us to believe that while at the same time that Kobe was putting in the work to go from a teenager to one of the best players in the game he was working on his acting skills such that lone Jordan mythologists were able to pick up his subtle mimicry?

Do you understand that people get paid millions of dollars and to imitate and act because its insanely difficult? Someone like Frank Caliendo has to study and practice and study and practice but Kobe matched his skill by watching some videotapes in between basketball practices growing up?
Bro he would literally imitate mj's goofy way of talking. Trust me that shit doesnt come from just watching basketball tapes.

[red1]

it's simply MJ fans projecting and a limitation of the cognitive process. We as people necessarily view the world and understand it by making connections between words, concepts, images, ideas. This is really what the process of thinking is, an organic process of associating mobile metaphors with other experiences.

Because Kobe came after MJ, for the MJ stans, it's impossible to view Kobe as anything other than a copy of MJ because the concept of 6ft6 GOAT level SG has becomes so ingrained in the very identity of MJ for them. So this whole Kobe swaggerjacking MJ thing is more of a problem of MJ stans' perception as oppose to reality.

We really gonna act like fadeways, fistpumps, and sticking out tongue is swaggerjacking?

the moment Kobe marries some female version of Prince then I would say you have a point
Its not one thing or the other. Its everything taken into context. Kobe was a jordan clone for the early portion of his career and it is one of the reasons he gained so much attention even as a rookie coming off the bench

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Bro he would literally imitate mj's goofy way of talking. Trust me that shit doesnt come from just watching basketball tapes.

Who do you think influenced Jordan's way of talking? What was the saying "republicans buy shoes too"? You don't think the same very suits that told Jordan how to act were not in Kobe's ear as well? That's swagger jacking?

[9erempiree]

it's simply MJ fans projecting and a limitation of the cognitive process. We as people necessarily view the world and understand it by making connections between words, concepts, images, ideas. This is really what the process of thinking is, an organic process of associating mobile metaphors with other experiences.

Because Kobe came after MJ, for the MJ stans, it's impossible to view Kobe as anything other than a copy of MJ because the concept of 6ft6 GOAT level SG has becomes so ingrained in the very identity of MJ for them. So this whole Kobe swaggerjacking MJ thing is more of a problem of MJ stans' perception as oppose to reality.

We really gonna act like fadeways, fistpumps, and sticking out tongue is swaggerjacking?

the moment Kobe marries some female version of Prince then I would say you have a point

I feel bad for MJ stans, they can't appreciate Kobe or any other player as anything but an approximation or through comparison to their idol.

Great post.

I have another theory. MJ retired a long time ago and I think one way to keep him relevant is to compare him to the best and that's Kobe. It's a way to keep him relevant.

We've seen the same with them comparing MJ to Lebron and Lebron shouldn't even be in the discussion.

So with Kobe's accomplishments, they try to remind us of MJ. Kobe has 5 rings....well...well....MJ has 6.

[magictricked]

Who do you think influenced Jordan's way of talking? What was the saying "republicans buy shoes too"? You don't think the same very suits that told Jordan how to act were not in Kobe's ear as well? That's swagger jacking?

Literally the very same suits. Kobe and Jordan are both products of the very same hype machine using the same handlers watching out to make sure the same iconic moment doesn't get missed.

[Doranku]

Why do people care that Kobe copies MJ? I don't understand. Why is it such a big deal?

[STATUTORY]

Why do people care that Kobe copies MJ? I don't understand. Why is it such a big deal?

like 9er says, it gives them a pretext to bring up MJ and try to keep an otherwise forgotten old man relevant in modern NBA

[9erempiree]

like 9er says, it gives them a pretext to bring up MJ and try to keep an otherwise forgotten old man relevant in modern NBA

yep.

As a fan of the Lakers and Kobe, why in the hell would I care about someone that retired years ago.

MJ fans have more of an infatuation with Kobe than we do with MJ.

[ralph_i_el]

how bout that time Agent 0 dropped 60 on young Kobr?

and then had the balls to say that Gilbert was taking terrible shots

http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=261217013

[Yao Ming's Foot]

how bout that time Agent 0 dropped 60 on young Kobr?

Arenas was trying to emulate a Kobe moment that night. I remember he took a deep three and smiled into the camera the same way Kobe did in the 00 playoffs Game 3 vs the Kings. The swagger jacking was unreal.

[SamuraiSWISH]

I feel bad for MJ stans, they can't appreciate Kobe or any other player as anything but an approximation or through comparison to their idol.
I feel bad for Kobe stans being so delusional that they can't admit their favorite player is an obvious imitation of someone else. It's even more absurd when Kobe stans want to make the argument he's better. He's a diluted, derivative carbon copy. Still great. But one is in the extreme minority in being blissfully ignorant of Kobe's obvious imitation. He even mimicked Jordan's mannerisms. Not just his game.

Kobe's creepy, Assasination of Jesse James act is also the sincerest form of flattery.

MJ stans can't not appreciate other players. Most of them praise LeBron, Durant, Iverson, Wade, other truly original players. And even if those players shared similarities with Jordan, they blatantly plagiarizing everything about Jordan. Mannerisms, persona and all.

People get on Kobe's case because they saw the superior version do it first. I'm sure some of them find it awkward having to watch some creep cover band version of their favorite player try to contrive moments that narratively came off organically to the one who came before, who radiated originality and cool factor.

Plagiarism offends people. Copying someone else's work and calling your own is offensive.

[iDunkOnFatKids]

Rockets


Broke Yao Ming's leg/foot and ended his career. Essentially bringing YAO's era at Rocket and Rocket's championship hope to a close.

[hitmanyr2k]

it's simply MJ fans projecting and a limitation of the cognitive process. We as people necessarily view the world and understand it by making connections between words, concepts, images, ideas. This is really what the process of thinking is, an organic process of associating mobile metaphors with other experiences.

Because Kobe came after MJ, for the MJ stans, it's impossible to view Kobe as anything other than a copy of MJ because the concept of 6ft6 GOAT level SG has becomes so ingrained in the very identity of MJ for them. So this whole Kobe swaggerjacking MJ thing is more of a problem of MJ stans' perception as oppose to reality.

We really gonna act like fadeways, fistpumps, and sticking out tongue is swaggerjacking?
.

There's no perception...just reality :oldlol: How many times does one guy copy the exact same thing another guy does before we just accept it for what it is?


http://youtu.be/9ZMVKN3W1JE?t=49m2s

http://youtu.be/bXY5m4Fqr3g?t=1h2m19s



Why do people care that Kobe copies MJ? I don't understand. Why is it such a big deal?

To put it simply no one likes a copycat or a spin-off no matter how close it comes to the original. When it comes to Kobe I've always used the Bruce Lee analogy. Bruce transcended martial arts so when his time was done you had the Bruce Lee clones (Bruce Li, Bruce Le, Dragon Lee, whoever) coming out of the woodwork trying to imitate the guy down to the last detail. They could kick like Bruce, punch like Bruce, and mimic everything he did but in the end they were nothing but a 2nd rate imitation that duplicated a successful personality and everyone recognized them for what they were. Kobe is no different. Great player, but no personality of his own.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Jordan's "personality"

http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/gemenacom/gemenacom1004/gemenacom100400221/6877966-board-of-directors-isolated-on-white-background.jpg

Jordan is the godfather of being a corporate phony and the media protected him. :facepalm

[Legends66NBA7]

like 9er says, it gives them a pretext to bring up MJ and try to keep an otherwise forgotten old man relevant in modern NBA

Who's them ?

https://twitter.com/kobebryant/status/385113406929248256

Kobe Bryant himself is bringing him up. The entire sports basketball media brings up Michael Jordan. He's the consensus measuring stick of greatness in terms of a basketball player and career.

Jordan did copy players too, but the signature moves he was making was on a grander stage and he produced at a very high level to boot. Thus, it seems that those moves were "his", but Jordan has admitted it as well.

Really, it's a compliment to Jordan that Bryant, Wade, Carter, McGrady, Iverson, and so on... all did their best impression of Michael Jordan and Bryant got the closest. The rest have some of their issues whether it would be health or lack of heart or not willing to change roles. Doesn't take away anything from any of them, but to deny Bryant didn't... when Bryant himself admitted over the years (I even recall a 1997 sports magazine about how Bryant studied him and how he wanted to be the best) makes literally no sense.

[STATUTORY]

Who's them ?

https://twitter.com/kobebryant/status/385113406929248256

Kobe Bryant himself is bringing him up. The entire sports basketball media brings up Michael Jordan. He's the consensus measuring stick of greatness in terms of a basketball player and career.

Jordan did copy players too, but the signature moves he was making was on a grander stage and he produced at a very high level to boot. Thus, it seems that those moves were "his", but Jordan has admitted it as well.

Really, it's a compliment to Jordan that Bryant, Wade, Carter, McGrady, Iverson, and so on... all did their best impression of Michael Jordan and Bryant got the closest. The rest have some of their issues whether it would be health or lack of heart or not willing to change roles. Doesn't take away anything from any of them, but to deny Bryant didn't... when Bryant himself admitted over the years (I even recall a 1997 sports magazine about how Bryant studied him and how he wanted to be the best) makes literally no sense.

who's them? the MJ stans scattered all around the media, most of them are 40 year old somethings for whom MJ is a nostalgic link to the last days of thier youth when they sported a regular size waist and non receding hairline. So they push this MJ agenda because it's not enough just for them to continuously relive this fantasy of days past, they want us to all share in their collective delusional retrospection.

The tyranny of the MJ brand.

It's quite sad really because MJ came up in the 80s, right in the the middle of the crack/hiv epidemic ravaging the black community. When the young brothas and sistahs really needed someone to be a model, instead we got a callous and apathetic shoe salesman. :facepalm

[Legends66NBA7]

who's them? the MJ stans scattered all around the media, most of them are 40 year old somethings for whom MJ is a nostalgic link to the last days of thier youth when they sported a regular size waist and non receding hairline. So they push this MJ agenda because it's not enough just for them to continuously relive this fantasy of days past, they want us to all share in their collective delusional retrospection.

The tyranny of the MJ brand.

It's quite sad really because MJ came up in the 80s, right in the the middle of the crack/hiv epidemic ravaging the black community. When the young brothas and sistahs really needed someone to be a model, instead we got a callous and apathetic shoe salesman. :facepalm

Not everyone in the media can be a "Jordan stan". There's was a time John Salley was saying he was the best, before he started saying he's not Top 5 and putting guys like Kevin McHale and Isiah Thomas over him because of preference.

It's just the way it is. Every player who comes along will get the comparison to Jordan until someone ultimately passes his legacy, which then will be switched over to that player.

My point is that even current players bring up Jordan and his influence on them. Again, it's nothing against them. Just like it's nothing against Jordan learning from David Thompson, Julius Erving, etc... But these guys did learn from the best and they have admitted it. That's not an agenda, they were trying to learn from the best, some more than others. It worked out very well for both Jordan and Bryant.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Not everyone in the media can be a "Jordan stan". There's was a time John Salley was saying he was the best, before he started saying he's not Top 5 and putting guys like Kevin McHale and Isiah Thomas over him because of preference.

It's just the way it is. Every player who comes along will get the comparison to Jordan until someone ultimately passes his legacy, which then will be switched over to that player.

My point is that even current players bring up Jordan and his influence on them. Again, it's nothing against them. Just like it's nothing against Jordan learning from David Thompson, Julius Erving, etc... But these guys did learn from the best and they have admitted it. That's not an agenda, they were trying to learn from the best, some more than others. It worked out very well for both Jordan and Bryant.

Nobody is arguing against Kobe learning from players of the past. They are arguing against the notion that jumping in the air or balling your hand into a fist in celebration is copying Jordan. They are arguing against the notion that working hard is copying Jordan. They are arguing against the notion that playing a game while sick is copying Jordan. They are arguing against the notion that telling someone you cant guard me is copying Jordan. Jordan mythologists aren't satisfied with influence they think Kobe doubles as Frank Caliendo in his spare time and are angry Kobe "stans" wont admit it.

[ZMonkey11]

Forced Shaq to the Heat, thus allowing the Pistons to be bumped by the Heat in 2006. History would have been different.

Thanks for being selfish Kobe.

[AlphaWolf24]

This thread is Hella Funny!

:roll: :roll: :roll:



- All I know is MJ swagger Jacked the Sh!t outta Doctor J....( seriously the reverse up and under Layup....switching sides under the Rim.....freethrow line Dunks.....mid range pull up J's)

- Kobe Jacks MJ's whole Book....and even added his own flavory sauce on most of his moves....( Pound pivot reverse revers again....3 point J's....more mid range)










- thank Gawd both of those guys did bite from the guys before them.....

- hopefully we have kids right now Jacking Kobe , PG 24, Dirk etc..etc....
( exactly too...even adding their own flavor)







Mj did Jack Kobe on Dat Latina Wifey move doe!.....








Purple Rain!...Purple Rain!

[VIntageNOvel]

:facepalm

i know kobe learn from alot MJ, he learn from the best, the way center suppose to learn skyhook, and dreamshake etc

but the way of celebration? you think kobe watched jordan video countless time and spent hours practicing how to celebrate after shot? you're reaching man

[Doranku]

To put it simply no one likes a copycat or a spin-off no matter how close it comes to the original. When it comes to Kobe I've always used the Bruce Lee analogy. Bruce transcended martial arts so when his time was done you had the Bruce Lee clones (Bruce Li, Bruce Le, Dragon Lee, whoever) coming out of the woodwork trying to imitate the guy down to the last detail. They could kick like Bruce, punch like Bruce, and mimic everything he did but in the end they were nothing but a 2nd rate imitation that duplicated a successful personality and everyone recognized them for what they were. Kobe is no different. Great player, but no personality of his own.

Nah, that isn't it. What it sounds like to me is that you're a butthurt Jordan dick sucker who can't cope with the fact that your idol is GONE and isn't coming back. Then you see Kobe getting compared to your saint MJ and you can't handle it because of your weird, overly obsessive nature towards MJ.

[9erempiree]

MJ fans can't even stay away on a thread about Kobe.

[9erempiree]

12/8/2013

Raptors: Taking a dump.

[branslowski]

MJ fans can't even stay away on a thread about Kobe.

This. Samurai Swish delusional as usual, just as he was in that Paul George thread he magically ran away from. Wouldn't expect much from a stan who defends his fav player's d!ck size.:facepalm

So apparently, Jordan created, Chewing gum, fist pumping, and telling players "You can't guard me"?..Seriously?.:coleman:

[Legends66NBA7]

I'd think it safe to say that Bryant, Jordan, and James fanatics are the most the defensive of all basketball player fanatics. Someone makes a point here and there and you guys act like your fathers got smacked.

[PizzamanIRL]

Worst thing he did was come back.

He's a black hole tonight.