Dec. 7: Clippers at Cavaliers Game Thread

[alenleomessi]

Chris Paul and the offensive-minded Los Angeles Clippers are starting to figure things out defensively.

That doesn't bode well for the Cleveland Cavaliers, who are having enough trouble scoring.

The Clippers try to deliver another strong defensive display when they visit the Cavaliers on Saturday night.

While Los Angeles (13-7) is near the top of the NBA with 105.7 points per contest, it's also surrendering 101.1 to rank in the bottom third. The Clippers have allowed 93.6 during a 5-2 stretch, however, giving up 82 or fewer three times.

"It would be one thing if we knew were weren't capable of it, and we didn't have the bodies and the people to execute it, but we do," said the 28-year-old Paul, among the league leaders with 2.3 steals per game. "We have myself, young, athletic guys that know what we're capable of. I may not be athletic, but I am young."

The Clippers were at their best in Thursday's 101-81 win at Memphis. DeAndre Jordan had 10 points, 14 rebounds and three blocks as Los Angeles held Memphis to a season-low 37.7 percent shooting.

"Our defense was keeping us there, then we finally took the game over when we started hitting shots," forward Blake Griffin said. "That's a good lesson for us."

The Clippers, who suffered a 107-97 loss at Atlanta the night before, are now 10-2 when allowing 103 points or fewer.

"I thought the way we responded was good," Griffin added. "There are challenges mentally and physically, and I think that was a mental challenge for us. We were mentally tough in that situation."

Los Angeles had dropped 11 of 12 to the Cavaliers before easily winning 105-89 in Cleveland on March 1. Jamal Crawford led the way with 24 points off the bench while Paul scored 11 with 15 assists.

The Cavaliers (6-13) are shooting 41.7 percent, the league's 29th-worst mark. They've also been limited to 92.6 points per game, going 1-11 when scoring 96 or fewer.

After posting back-to-back wins for the first time, Cleveland was handed a 108-89 loss at Atlanta on Friday. Dion Waiters had a season-high 30 points off the bench and Andrew Bynum added 20 and 13 rebounds, but Kyrie Irving was held scoreless for the first time in his career.

The All-Star point guard, averaging a team-best 19.7 points, went 0 of 9 from the field and 0 of 3 from the foul line in a season-low 20 minutes.

"I'm not worried about Kyrie's shot," coach Mike Brown said. "He's going to make enough shots."

The Cavaliers were outscored 37-20 in the first quarter and 14-4 in transition.

"We've got to come out with a sense of urgency," Waiters said. "Superman's not coming in the locker room to help us. It's just us. We're all we've got so at the end of the day we've got to come out and play."

Bynum is averaging 18.0 points and 10.0 boards over a three-game stretch, well above his season marks of 8.7 and 5.0. He has posted 21.5 and 11.5 in his last 10 against the Clippers, though he hasn't faced them since April 2012 while with the Lakers.

Cleveland, which has won three of its last four on the second of back-to-backs, is 2-0 at home against Western Conference foes. Los Angeles is 0-3 on the road against the East.

Crawford is averaging 19.4 points in 24 games against the Cavaliers since 2003-04, his second-highest mark against any opponent over that stretch.
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[treadster]

Might as well watch this.

I hope Kyrie got out of his slump.

[senelcoolidge]

links? i don't have crappy NBA TV

[Meticode]

Might as well watch this.

I hope Kyrie got out of his slump.
The game before last he was great, then in the last game he was 0-9 from the field and 0-3 from the free throw line.

[LONGTIME]

links? i don't have crappy NBA TV

http://www.stream2u.eu/watch/32612/NBA-Los-Angeles-Clippers-vs-Cleveland-Cavaliers.html

[treadster]

The game before last he was great, then in the last game he was 0-9 from the field and 0-3 from the free throw line.
Mayybe it's just me but Kyrie just seems different to me.:confusedshrug:

[chips93]

ill watch this one in the morning

but my quick prediction (has the game started already) the clippers run a hundred pick and rolls, and challenge bynum to step out onto the perimeter to guard cp3, which he wont, and paul rains mid range jumpers on us all day, en route to 40.

[alenleomessi]

horrible defense by the clippers so far

[Meticode]

I'm watching the Clippers broadcast, and the old commentator guy constantly calls players by the wrong name. I think he's done it like 3 times in the first quarter. At the end of the first quarter when Clark shot the three for the miss he called him Miles. Then when Dion went to the basket and passed the ball out of pounds he called him Miles too. :oldlol:

[alenleomessi]

fatboy tasted that jamal crosover :lol

[alenleomessi]

2 fouls on bennet already
why the f was he guarding jamal anyway :oldlol:

[DuMa]

clips had the best bench last year and now probably has one of the worst in the league. GODSOE I MISS YOU

[Uncle Drew]

Kyrie destroying Willie Green on the baseline, next possession he comes up with an airball...

[LONGTIME]

:wtf: that fan

[treadster]

:lol wtf a fan just coming to the court.

[Meticode]

Fan walked into the court while Paul brung the ball up with a glazed look on his face wearing "Kyrie don't leave."

:facepalm

Making us look pathetic.

[Doranku]

:roll: :roll: :roll: Cavs fans suffering PTSD from Bron shitting on their franchise.

[Uncle Drew]

Rather see someone walk up the court with a ''Andrew don't leave'' t-shirt.

[Scholar]

:roll: :roll:
Cavs fans like an emotional bitch, begging a nigguh to stay doe.

[Meticode]

:roll: :roll:
Cavs fans like an emotional bitch, begging a nigguh to stay doe.
http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/files/2013/06/dwight-howard-stay-with-lakers.jpg

And this is after he only played one season...

[Scholar]

http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/files/2013/06/dwight-howard-stay-with-lakers.jpg

And this is after he only played one season...

That wasn't the fans. It was the dumbass front office.

[Meticode]

That wasn't the fans. It was the dumbass front office.
Dwight Howard,

Will you please STAY? You got traded here and you didn't even want to come here. You look so disinterested when you play and without heart. But despite all of this, please stay?

[Scholar]

Dwight Howard,

Will you please STAY? You got traded here and you didn't even want to come here. You look so disinterested when you play and without heart. But despite all of this, please stay?

LeBron James, please stay! Oh, you won't?
LeBron James, please come back! Oh, Cleveland is shit and Miami is better? Shit..
Kyrie Irving, please don't leave! We'll suck your dick!

Cavs fans like a bunch of abused bitches. Now any man they love they get worried he's going to **** them and leave.

[Koala bear]

Because a few fans who do something stupid are representative of the whole fan base?

[MP.Trey]

Because a few fans who do something stupid are representative of the whole fan base?
Yup. ISH logic, get used to it. :lol

[Meticode]

LeBron James, please stay! Oh, you won't?
LeBron James, please come back! Oh, Cleveland is shit and Miami is better? Shit..
Kyrie Irving, please don't leave! We'll suck your dick!

Cavs fans like a bunch of abused bitches. Now any man they love they get worried he's going to **** them and leave.
You're pretty upset and acting immature.

[MP.Trey]

Austin Carr's laugh. :oldlol:

[MP.Trey]

DJ just swatted Kyrie's layup to beyond half court. :eek:

[IGOTGAME]

http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/files/2013/06/dwight-howard-stay-with-lakers.jpg

And this is after he only played one season...
This was the saddest day in LA history.

[Meticode]

Damn, that Paul three hurt because the play was so broken up by those long offensive rebounds.

[DuMa]

http://i.imgur.com/Zox65f6.jpg

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Sick shot by Jack. :eek:

[MP.Trey]

Jarrett Jack finally doing something FOR the team. :bowdown:

[Meticode]

God, get Earl Clark off the floor now. He missed two wide open threes, then after missing the second he slouches off Crawford who hits the three. He looks like a dumbass out there.

[Scholar]

You're pretty upset and acting immature.
Lol
So it's okay that your response to me shutting you down with your false "Lakers fans begged D12 to stay" argument was an immature response? You didn't refute my point. You just made up what you think Lakers fans were saying.
Yeah. You're pretty upset and quite frankly very hypocritical in this instance, bro.

[BallsOut]

God, get Earl Clark off the floor now. He missed two wide open threes, then after missing the second he slouches off Crawford who hits the three. He looks like a dumbass out there.

Cavs should've never overpaid for Clark :biggums:

[Scholar]

Jack's buzzer beater was nice. :applause:

[MP.Trey]

Jamison chucking. :oldlol:

Varejao beasting.

[Meticode]

When Varejao takes that elbow jumper I have no issue with it, as long as its in motion and not that stupid pump fake he does.

[DuMa]

Jamison is gonna be stuck under 20k for a while it appears

[BallsOut]

Jamison chucking. :oldlol:

Varejao beasting.

Jamison trying to hit that 20k points milestone :oldlol:

[BlackVVaves]

God, get Earl Clark off the floor now. He missed two wide open threes, then after missing the second he slouches off Crawford who hits the three. He looks like a dumbass out there.

You guys definitely overplayed for Clark. What has he done this season?

[alenleomessi]

worst clipper game since paul arrived

[bluechox2]

waiters pulling a irving cameo

[DuMa]

fack. DJ just turned his ankle.

[BlackVVaves]

Good no call refs. Clippers stay whining, lead by Doc Rivers :cry:

Kyrie put Paul on skates back there :eek:

[Meticode]

Blake is playing center. Mike Brown should be throwing Bynum out there right now with Dudley playing PF.

[DuMa]

****in cant make any 3s.

[Scholar]

Bynum 18 PTs in 23 min. :applause:

[BlackVVaves]

Andy is punking the shit outta Blake :oldlol:

[Scholar]

Anybody else getting annoyed by that little kid stomping his feet and jumping EVERY TIME while the crowd chants, "Defense"?

[Meticode]

Anybody else getting annoyed by that little kid stomping his feet and jumping EVERY TIME while the crowd chants, "Defense"?
Sound is muted. Can't stay old the old guy commentator calling every other player the wrong name.

[BallsOut]

Oh shit Blake Griffin Verajao fight :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Scholar]

Damn! Never seen BG so mad!

[treadster]

Big boy Griffin taunting Andy:lol

[MP.Trey]

Damn! Never seen BG so mad!
:lol Frustrated as ****!

[DuMa]

Andy V's trollface :lol

[BlackVVaves]

Griffin :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Meticode]

Varejao just playing some hard basketball, shit is legit and getting in Blake's head.

[Scholar]

Varejao with a smile on his face while he's on the floor! :oldlol: He knew Blake wasn't gonna do shit.

And lol @ Clippers commentators saying Varejao flopped. Haha They should know a flop when they see one, right?

[alenleomessi]

:facepalm

[BallsOut]

Verajao looks like he's enjoying it :roll: :roll: :roll:

[MP.Trey]

Blake's so mad tho :roll:

[MVBallin2K]

Blake getting mad and chippy at Varjeao was more entertaining than anything the Clippers did this whole game.

[CavaliersFTW]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: @ Blake's Meltdown while Andy is on the ground holding back laughter :oldlol:

[Meticode]

Verajao looks like he's enjoying it :roll: :roll: :roll:
As he should be. Andy's out there just giving a hard bump which is EXACTLY what you should do against Griffin. It gets in his head and it did this time.

[Andrew Wiggins]

anyone hear austin carr :lol


he's talking so much shit on griffin

[BlackVVaves]

Andy V's trollface :lol

He's just laying there laughing at Griffin :roll:

Both of them flopped on the respective hits.

Refs trying to gift the win to the Clips.

[MP.Trey]

Verajao looks like he's enjoying it :roll: :roll: :roll:
Outplay the guy and force him into a terrible night in which your team's looking like the clear winner. And outplay him so much to the fact that he gets mad and pushes you to the ground, and attempts to taunt you while you're already on the ground. That's the type of shit Andy thrives on. :oldlol:

[CavaliersFTW]

anyone hear austin carr :lol


he's talking so much shit on griffin
'Blake walks up like he's muhammad ali but with no intention to do anything but talk'

:lol

[MP.Trey]

Crawford helping the Cavs out missing so many shots, but shitting on my FG% in fantasy. Take the good with the bad.

[BlackVVaves]

Kyrie :facepalm

[BallsOut]

Man this Irving guy makes terrible decisions down the stretch :biggums:

[NattyPButter]

this is how the team loses games with crap like this. Kyrie needs to pass the damn ball.

[Meticode]

Man this Irving guy makes terrible decisions down the stretch :biggums:
Duh

[MP.Trey]

Man this Irving guy makes terrible decisions down the stretch :biggums:
Only this year. Last year he was terrific in clutch situations. Not sure what's going on early this year but he needs to get his mind right.

[BlackVVaves]

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[alenleomessi]

ill take a break from watching this shit team

[Uncle Drew]

:pimp:

[MP.Trey]

Good game Clippers fans :cheers:

[Scholar]

Nice job, Cavs. Kept the lead throughout the 4th. No breakdowns at all.

[Meticode]

This win really shows how bad we are. The only reason the Clippers lost this game is because the Clippers missed WIDE open threes.

If you go 7-35 for the game from three you're going to lose, and the only lost by 6.

[MP.Trey]

On the bright side, we're 6-3 at home. :applause:

1-10 away though. :facepalm

[FatComputerNerd]

Andy V's trollface :lol

Someone needs to .gif this :oldlol:

[Uncle Drew]

This win really shows how bad we are. The only reason the Clippers lost this game is because the Clippers missed WIDE open threes.

If you go 7-35 for the game from three you're going to lose, and the only lost by 6.
Just take the win, man. Our progress goes with a lot of ups and downs. Which is perfectly normal, considering the fact that we have the youngest team in the entire league.

[NattyPButter]

shouldn't had won this game with shooting 37% but the Clippers shouldn't win either with a low 32%.

[TheCalmInsanity]

Good game Cavs fans.

I'll tell you one thing though, anyone who is praising Varejao for flopping is really using the other edge of the double edged sword.. If it was Blake flying to the floor like that everyone would pull out the cliche flopping remarks.

[BlackVVaves]

Andy had 17 rebounds in about 20 minutes (off the bench) :applause:

Bynum had 18 points in about 20 minutes :applause:

[BlackVVaves]

Good game Cavs fans.

I'll tell you one thing though, anyone who is praising Varejao for flopping is really using the other edge of the double edged sword.. If it was Blake flying to the floor like that everyone would pull out the cliche flopping remarks.

They both flopped in that sequence. Pretty sure everyone was praising Andy for his overall punking of Griffin over the course of the game, particularly his troll face during that heated exchange :lol

[TheCalmInsanity]

They both flopped in that sequence. Pretty sure everyone was praising Andy for his overall punking of Griffin over the course of the game, particularly his troll face during that heated exchange :lol

Cmon man, you can't compare taking an elbow and exaggerating contact by pulling your head up to completely flying from no contact and sliding on the floor. That was just bad.

I'm not hating on Varejao. I'm just saying, too many people do this... One person flops horribly and it's "hahahaha his face while he was on the floor" and then Blake Griffin flops and it's "hahaha he's smiling on the floor cause he knows he's a flopper". It's just sad to see people praising a flop, that's all.

And by the way, to the Cavs fans saying this was a bad win, it wasn't. The Cavs defense looked great. There were so many offensive sets where the Clippers literally looked lost, didn't know where to pass to, didn't know when to shoot, etc. The Cavs defense won this game. Everyone has bad offensive games (the Clippers and the Cavs both had horrible offensive nights) but the Cavs defense made the difference.

[RedBlackAttack]

This win really shows how bad we are. The only reason the Clippers lost this game is because the Clippers missed WIDE open threes.

If you go 7-35 for the game from three you're going to lose, and the only lost by 6.
Shut up.

[RedBlackAttack]

On the bright side, we're 6-3 at home. :applause:

1-10 away though. :facepalm
That's pretty commonplace with young teams. Those 6 wins have come against good competition too.

[chips93]

nice win. bynum was beasting on the offensive glass early on again, and the cavs were going to him consistently. really encouraging stuff.

earl clark made some nice plays too. people compared him to lamar odom coming out of louisville, and he made some nice drives and dishes tonight, along with hitting some outside shots.

offensively, aside from kyrie and dion missing a whole lot of shots, the execution was great. when bynum is established it really changes how this team has to be defended.

he is passing the ball much better than i had anticipated. the laker fans painted him as a black hole, but hes been pretty solid at kicking it out when hes doubled. speaking of passing tristan has come a long way, hes made some pretty nice passes these last couple games. his court awareness is just miles better than it used to be.

[Meticode]

Shut up.
Not only that, but I think we outrebounded them by 15. 60 to 45 I think I read correctly.

So we out-rebounded them by 15 (6 more offensive rebounds), they shot 7-35 from three and 32% overall from the field and yet we only win by 6? The only reason we won is because they didn't hit the wide open 3s they would've made if Redick was playing in the game that we let them take because we didn't close out.

[Meticode]

Just take the win, man. Our progress goes with a lot of ups and downs. Which is perfectly normal, considering the fact that we have the youngest team in the entire league.
I don't want the win, I want Mike Brown ousted.

[Meticode]

Just take the win, man. Our progress goes with a lot of ups and downs. Which is perfectly normal, considering the fact that we have the youngest team in the entire league.
Second youngest, 76ers are the youngest. Cavaliers are .6 older averaged and have .6 more experience.

[MP.Trey]

Not only that, but I think we outrebounded them by 15. 60 to 45 I think I read correctly.

So we out-rebounded them by 15 (6 more offensive rebounds), they shot 7-35 from three and 32% overall from the field and yet we only win by 6? The only reason we lost is because they didn't hit the wide open 3s they would've made if Redick was playing in the game that we let them take.
That's the pessimistic view.

The optimist's way of viewing this would be we were a young, struggling 6-13 team going against the best PG in the game and his 13-7 division leading team that expects championship contention this year and we outrebounded them by 15 en route to a 6 point victory.

[Meticode]

That's the pessimistic view.

The optimist's way of viewing this would be we were a young, struggling 6-13 team going against the best PG in the game and his 13-7 division leading team that expects championship contention this year and we outrebounded them by 15 en route to a 6 point victory.
Just calling it like I see it.

[chips93]

I don't want the win, I want Mike Brown ousted.

:facepalm

[Meticode]

:facepalm
That icon is exactly the same thing I did when I heard we signed him back.

I'm sorry, I feel he's a horrible coach. While he's an excellent defensive coach he has no idea how to run an offensive. I just don't feel he's the long-term answer for this team even though he's signed for 5 years.