Lebron James & Paul Pierce: The only FMVPs in 20+ years to..

[Donkey4trading]

Have two teammates make the all star team the years they won a championship.

[RRR3]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8432117&postcount=483

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8432176&postcount=500

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Can't even stick to one agenda :facepalm

[Donkey4trading]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8432117&postcount=483

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8432176&postcount=500

That's pretty creepy. I have 200 post on this site and you seem to remember specific comments of mine real well.

Anyways, how good is your reading comprehension? :lol 20+ years doesn't include Larry & Magic who were playing in an era of stacked teams now does it?

20+ years ends at 1990 with Isiah Thomas, however shortly prior to Thomas most championship teams featured multiple all stars, which is not the case in the most recent era.

Nice try :applause:

[RRR3]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8624602&postcount=1

[Donkey4trading]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8624602&postcount=1

:roll:

I'm gonna let you re read that post and and then tell me if you want to try and use it against me



Seriously, first off this pacers team is STACKED, people talk about the HEAT being "stacked" but this pacers teams takes it to a whole other level. On top of that their cocky as shit when they still haven't won ANYTHING.

Second point, Lebron spent years with the Cavs dragging a bunch of D leaguers to finals appearances and deep playoff runs only to have his team quit on him when he needed them most against the magic & celtics.

Sooo then Lebron made an excellent move by getting two good to very good players in Wade & Bosh to join him and as we saw he eventually carried them to a title. But now? Lebron is trying to lead his team to a 2nd straight title and it seems as if ALL the odds are stacked against him. It was supposed to be easy, or at least without much challenge, Lebron's talent deserves more rings and his current situation just isn't fair

And here's this since I know you're looking for it

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=296152

Which was a response to this statement

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=253347


Anything else RR3? go ahead and tell these people something they don't know about me

[ripthekik]

rrr3 stop being a creep and stalking others, wtf.
How's that depression coming along btw?

oh, and on topic, yes. This needs to be known.

[Spaulding]

This is bad.

[blood yes]

and kobe, the only guy to have 2 allstar teammates and NOT win a title :cheers:

[ripthekik]

and kobe, the only guy to have 2 allstar teammates and NOT win a title :cheers:
who?

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Pierce is the more skilled and fundamental player
Lebrons better b/c he was gifted with unreal talents/athleticism

[Jameerthefear]

Pierce is the more skilled and fundamental player
Lebrons better b/c he was gifted with unreal talents/athleticism
man you're dumb.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

man you're dumb.
Nikka y u all up in my grill followin me to every thread:biggums:
u want some of this forreal yung nikka watch yoself:biggums:

Everything i posted was 100% fact

[MMM]

Pierce is in elite company :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

2nd best SF of his generation and out lasted guys like Carter, T-Mac, AI, Jamison

[pauk]

Technically you might be correct....

But hypothetically no...

You can play like an all-star and not be voted into that due to various eccentric circumstances... or you can be a guy who does not play better than some guys who hence deserved to be all-stars that year over you, but you still got it over them/him due to your name/past....

The year mr Clutch (Chauncey Billups) won the FMVP, he wasnt even an all-star... and played better than all his all-star teammates who were in their prime / at their best to get the FMVP... after that he got the recognition he deserved from fans and he finally got to be an all-star technically for many years, but that was the moment he hypothetically did become an all-star and he sure didnt play any differentely compared to his all-star years....

Tim Duncan & Tony Parker won FMVP with Manu Ginobili, Parker/Manu were all-stars technically back & forth before and after some championship runs, but they always did play like all-stars during those championship runs, they were in their prime-prime.

Michael Jordan won FMVP with Scottie Pippen.... and Dennis Rodman.... Dennis was not technically an all-star during the mid 90s (shockingly, that is true), but hypothetically yes he was, he wasnt doing anything different than the 2 years he was an all-star.... Toni Kukoc was around there to, the only reason he wasnt an All-Star was due to who he was sharing the ball with.... with a starting spot & minutes (especially if it was a scrub team) Toni Kukoc would have guaranteed been a 20-10-6 guy (+ im a biased Croatian)....

Hakeem Olajuwon won FMVP with Clyde Drexler and Otis Thorpe who was on the all-star team just before the championship runs, but during those runs he was actually playing BETTER than the year was on the all-star team....

There is many other championship teams you could even argue there being 3 guys who played like all-stars.... like 1999 Lakers (Shaq, Kobe, Rice).... 2009 (Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum)....

So it depends on what you consider is an All-Star.... a guy who plays like an all-star or a guy who was voted into the All-Star team?

[imnew09]

To conclude this theory, both of them are lil btches

[Magic 32]

To conclude this theory, both of them are lil btches

http://itsalwayssunnyindetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/LeBron-cramps.jpg

http://tyrannyoftradition.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/1212724031_1282.jpg

[MMM]

Paul Pierce top 5 in many Celtics(best or 2nd best Franchise) all time stats
Came out on top against 2 of the league greats in 08
2nd Best SF of the 00s

respect his legacy
hopefully ehe resigns as a celtics next season so he can retire in green

[ripthekik]

Technically you might be correct....

But hypothetically no...

You can play like an all-star and not be voted into that due to various eccentric circumstances... or you can be a guy who does not play better than some guys who hence deserved to be all-stars that year over you, but you still got it over them/him due to your name/past....

The year mr Clutch (Chauncey Billups) won the FMVP, he wasnt even an all-star... and played better than all his all-star teammates who were in their prime / at their best to get the FMVP... after that he got the recognition he deserved from fans and he finally got to be an all-star technically for many years, but that was the moment he hypothetically did become an all-star and he sure didnt play any differentely compared to his all-star years....

Tim Duncan & Tony Parker won FMVP with Manu Ginobili, Parker/Manu were all-stars technically back & forth before and after some championship runs, but they always did play like all-stars during those championship runs, they were in their prime-prime.

Michael Jordan won FMVP with Scottie Pippen.... and Dennis Rodman.... Dennis was not technically an all-star during the mid 90s (shockingly, that is true), but hypothetically yes he was, he wasnt doing anything different than the 2 years he was an all-star.... Toni Kukoc was around there to, the only reason he wasnt an All-Star was due to who he was sharing the ball with.... with a starting spot & minutes (especially if it was a scrub team) Toni Kukoc would have guaranteed been a 20-10-6 guy (+ im a biased Croatian)....

Hakeem Olajuwon won FMVP with Clyde Drexler and Otis Thorpe who was on the all-star team just before the championship runs, but during those runs he was actually playing BETTER than the year was on the all-star team....

There is many other championship teams you could even argue there being 3 guys who played like all-stars.... like 1999 Lakers (Shaq, Kobe, Rice).... 2009 (Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum)....

So it depends on what you consider is an All-Star.... a guy who plays like an all-star or a guy who was voted into the All-Star team?
Here we go, the defending essay
:roll: :roll: :roll:
tldr tho

[BlackVVaves]

@Pauk

Artest was a Rocket that year you are referring to (2009). And, he certainly wasn't an All Star in 2010 averaging 11 points per on 41% shooting.

Agree with most of your post, though it should be added that more times than not, players highlighted with the all star selection are a tad better at the least than the borderline all stars that didn't make it.

Every year there's one or two exceptions. But the other 10 or 12 members of the team usually deserve the selection. Because they are amongst the top tier of the league at their position.

[Droid101]

Technically you might be correct....

But hypothetically no...

You can play like an all-star and not be voted into that due to various eccentric circumstances... or you can be a guy who does not play better than some guys who hence deserved to be all-stars that year over you, but you still got it over them/him due to your name/past....

The year mr Clutch (Chauncey Billups) won the FMVP, he wasnt even an all-star... and played better than all his all-star teammates who were in their prime / at their best to get the FMVP... after that he got the recognition he deserved from fans and he finally got to be an all-star technically for many years, but that was the moment he hypothetically did become an all-star and he sure didnt play any differentely compared to his all-star years....

Tim Duncan & Tony Parker won FMVP with Manu Ginobili, Parker/Manu were all-stars technically back & forth before and after some championship runs, but they always did play like all-stars during those championship runs, they were in their prime-prime.

Michael Jordan won FMVP with Scottie Pippen.... and Dennis Rodman.... Dennis was not technically an all-star during the mid 90s (shockingly, that is true), but hypothetically yes he was, he wasnt doing anything different than the 2 years he was an all-star.... Toni Kukoc was around there to, the only reason he wasnt an All-Star was due to who he was sharing the ball with.... with a starting spot & minutes (especially if it was a scrub team) Toni Kukoc would have guaranteed been a 20-10-6 guy (+ im a biased Croatian)....

Hakeem Olajuwon won FMVP with Clyde Drexler and Otis Thorpe who was on the all-star team just before the championship runs, but during those runs he was actually playing BETTER than the year was on the all-star team....

There is many other championship teams you could even argue there being 3 guys who played like all-stars.... like 1999 Lakers (Shaq, Kobe, Rice).... 2009 (Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum)....

So it depends on what you consider is an All-Star.... a guy who plays like an all-star or a guy who was voted into the All-Star team?
http://i.imgur.com/NjrwffZ.jpg

[riseagainst]

rrr3 stop being a creep and stalking others, wtf.
How's that depression coming along btw?

oh, and on topic, yes. This needs to be known.

:roll:

[riseagainst]

http://i.imgur.com/NjrwffZ.jpg

:roll:

[BlazerRed]

Technically you might be correct....

But hypothetically no...

You can play like an all-star and not be voted into that due to various eccentric circumstances... or you can be a guy who does not play better than some guys who hence deserved to be all-stars that year over you, but you still got it over them/him due to your name/past....

The year mr Clutch (Chauncey Billups) won the FMVP, he wasnt even an all-star... and played better than all his all-star teammates who were in their prime / at their best to get the FMVP... after that he got the recognition he deserved from fans and he finally got to be an all-star technically for many years, but that was the moment he hypothetically did become an all-star and he sure didnt play any differentely compared to his all-star years....

Tim Duncan & Tony Parker won FMVP with Manu Ginobili, Parker/Manu were all-stars technically back & forth before and after some championship runs, but they always did play like all-stars during those championship runs, they were in their prime-prime.

Michael Jordan won FMVP with Scottie Pippen.... and Dennis Rodman.... Dennis was not technically an all-star during the mid 90s (shockingly, that is true), but hypothetically yes he was, he wasnt doing anything different than the 2 years he was an all-star.... Toni Kukoc was around there to, the only reason he wasnt an All-Star was due to who he was sharing the ball with.... with a starting spot & minutes (especially if it was a scrub team) Toni Kukoc would have guaranteed been a 20-10-6 guy (+ im a biased Croatian)....

Hakeem Olajuwon won FMVP with Clyde Drexler and Otis Thorpe who was on the all-star team just before the championship runs, but during those runs he was actually playing BETTER than the year was on the all-star team....

There is many other championship teams you could even argue there being 3 guys who played like all-stars.... like 1999 Lakers (Shaq, Kobe, Rice).... 2009 (Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Bynum)....

So it depends on what you consider is an All-Star.... a guy who plays like an all-star or a guy who was voted into the All-Star team?
Disappointed in the effort brother, I think it needed to be longer to really drill your point home :sleeping