Joe Rogan on 'Luck creating success'

[$LakerGold]

There's luck unquestionably that plays a big part in everyone's success. You're lucky that you're healthy, you're lucky that you weren't born in Ethiopia with no feet, you're lucky that you didn't get a bomb dropped on your head 'cause you were in the wrong spot & at the wrong time. There's a lot of luck involved, no question about that. But there's a giant misconception of luck creating success, because it doesn't, it just opens doors -- luck opens doors, & you can **** that up, everybody has ****ed that up, millions of people ****ed that up.

There's a lot of luck involved in being a human being in 2013. People gotta be really careful with the idea that luck creates success, because it doesn't, there's a lot of ****ING WORK involved in being good at anything, & the idea that this becomes created by luck & that these people that are more successful than you are just lucky is a real problem we have in this world, it's a real problem that people have in thinking, & it's a giant error. Because of even thinking that way, you're demeaning other people's success, & that is both NEGATIVE TO THEM & NEGATIVE TO YOU, because it redefines reality for you & you're saying that they're luckier than you, they're more fortunate than you. Well, that's not what happened, YOU ARE FORTUNATE TOO. & It's just that they had an opportunity & they figured it out how to take advantage of it.

Say if you start surfing when you were 6, & you become world surfing champion & I didn't, am I not lucky? That's non-sense & it's ****ing crazy that people think like that. "Ohhhh, you're so lucky, & if your dad didn't push you to surf when you were 6, you wouldn't be world champion." That sort of defining thing is a real problem that people do, & IT CREATES WEAK BITCHES, that's a WEAK BITCH TYPE OF THINKING & that's so prevalent in this world today & we gotta shake that shit out of people.

:pimp:

[Loneshot]

i can dig it

[jdm_dc_fan]

He's right in a way. It wasn't luck when he stole other stand up comics jokes. :coleman:

[Loneshot]

He's right in a way. It wasn't luck when he stole other stand up comics jokes. :coleman:

When did he? I thought that was Mencia.

[longtime lurker]

One of the best quotes I've ever heard is that "luck occurs when opportunity meets preparation" everybody gets opportunities but few are really prepared to capitalize on them.

[LJJ]

I like the podcast, but I'm not a big fan of when people like Joe Rogan (or Malcolm Gladwell for that matter) are telling you they are richer than you because they worked harder than you. Because that's all this is. They are sucking their own dick essentially.

[reppy]

I like the podcast, but I'm not a big fan of when people like Joe Rogan (or Malcolm Gladwell for that matter) are telling you they are richer than you because they worked harder than you. Because that's all this is. They are sucking their own dick essentially.

He's lucky that people want to talk about meaningless shit.

[chips93]

hes gotten so preachy over the last year or two

i used to love his podcast, but he just repeats himself so much, i cant listen to it anymore.

[OhNoTimNoSho]

One of the best quotes I've ever heard is that "luck occurs when opportunity meets preparation" everybody gets opportunities but few are really prepared to capitalize on them.
The quote is success = opportunity + preparation not luck. Luck is a random variable that you can't account for.

[kNicKz]

Joe Rogan is cool up until the point where he says Obama is an Alien and his frosted flakes are spying on him.

I love it when he calls out hollywood stars lol. He called Sean Penn a fake tough guy

[STATUTORY]

I like the podcast, but I'm not a big fan of when people like Joe Rogan (or Malcolm Gladwell for that matter) are telling you they are richer than you because they worked harder than you. Because that's all this is. They are sucking their own dick essentially.
I agree it's a complete self serving narrative and reeks of hubris. it also feeds the myth of self reliance and creation that's the ethos of "american dream".

[longtime lurker]

The quote is success = opportunity + preparation not luck. Luck is a random variable that you can't account for.

Success and luck can sometimes be interrelated. Some people attribute luck to some random variable, but that's not always the case. We always see the results of success, but we don't always see what went into that success.

[$LakerGold]

Lol. You have to have an open mind to watch his podcast or even listen to him in general.

@Knickz, you know what you should do? LAUGH, & not take it so serious. wtf?

Joe Rogan keeps it real, & the way he does it rubs people the wrong way & makes them get out of their comfort-zone, & that's because he's prolly handing them their reality check. If you can't stand Joe, then that might be one of the reasons why.

Joe may be repetitive at times when discussing certain topics, but that's just how it is. You don't see c*nts just stop being c*nts, do you?

[$LakerGold]

I think I just called Joe a c*nt. :lol

But here's the podcast. He's actually a guest for his bestfriend's podcast - Eddie Bravo Radio -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF96c55PgAA

A guy was explaining the story some book called 'The Outliers' & then Joe just went off on him...

[gigantes]

the point that joe is attacking is idiotic. his rebuttal is basically just weak and watery truisms dressed up in wannabe tough guy / hipster.


does joe actually challenge himself any more?

[chips93]

did you see his episode with that lefty dude, jamie kilstein? maybe a year ago?

that was the straw that broke the camels back for me. he was just so obnoxious and hypocritical.

hes got an ego problem. hes not a particularly smart guy, but he acts like he has all the answers to society's problems.

i preferred it when he was just shooting the shit with his friends, telling stories about stand up comedy and his life, without trying so hard to be smart.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Ugh and so begins the inevitable decline of a promising celebrity's interesting masculine philosophies on things.

If I wanted chest-beating silly jock squawk, I'd simply watch a video by E.T the Hip Hop Teacher or CT Fletcher.

[$LakerGold]

Lotta weak bitches in this thread.
lulz

[Swaggin916]

I like the podcast, but I'm not a big fan of when people like Joe Rogan (or Malcolm Gladwell for that matter) are telling you they are richer than you because they worked harder than you. Because that's all this is. They are sucking their own dick essentially.

No they are just stating a fact. They do things that most people don't have the balls to do (speak publicly) and they have taken advantage of opportunities that have been presented. Working hard to get where you want to go is not a new concept, but it's something a good amount of people can't/won't accept. They won't take responsibility for not working hard and stepping on their own tail. If I don't earn a lot of money in my life it will be because I didn't want to make the sacrifices and work hard, not because I wasn't lucky. The same goes for everyone else who didn't just inherit a bunch of it.

[unbreakable]

i disagree complely. im from a humble middle class family.

no matter how hard i tried , I COULD NEVER be a top banker, top lawyer, top politician.. that is reserved for the elite who only breed other elite.

[LJJ]

No they are just stating a fact. They do things that most people don't have the balls to do (speak publicly) and they have taken advantage of opportunities that have been presented. Working hard to get where you want to go is not a new concept, but it's something a good amount of people can't/won't accept. They won't take responsibility for not working hard and stepping on their own tail. If I don't earn a lot of money in my life it will be because I didn't want to make the sacrifices and work hard, not because I wasn't lucky. The same goes for everyone else who didn't just inherit a bunch of it.

Please, saying this makes you sound so naive. I'm in a great position to be "succesful", and I'm not about shit when it comes to hard work. I didn't work hard to get in this position. My girlfriend has a management position at an oil company without having a diploma or experience, because nepotism.

Life isn't a fairytale, everyone doesn't get what they deserve. Plenty of people work really hard and go nowhere. The way Rogan capitalized on his opportunities is admirable, but he isn't famous because he worked hard. You don't get equal return on the effort you put in, success is not about that. And when succesful people are trying to tell you that it is about that it's more about servicing their own ego.

[gigantes]

i don't know... joe seems to have worked his ass off in life from what i can tell.


- making it as an actor usually involves years of suffering, menial work, and heartbreak.
- making it as a comedian is usually a long, brutal process.
- earning black belts in combat sports that actually matter takes years of blood, sweat and tears.
- hosting a radio show for years, putting himself out there when he could have played it safe and enjoyed his semi-retirement... that shows something to me, even when i don't always agree with him.
- overall he just seems to push himself in any direction he can and generally stay super-busy. i guess you might say he's a workaholic, though.


workaholic <> hard worker, eh?
or is it? i don't know.

[highwhey]

i don't know... joe seems to have worked his ass off in life from what i can tell.


- making it as an actor usually involves years of suffering, menial work, and heartbreak.
- making it as a comedian is usually a long, brutal process.
- earning black belts in combat sports that actually matter takes years of blood, sweat and tears.
- hosting a radio show for years, putting himself out there when he could have played it safe and enjoyed his semi-retirement... that shows something to me, even when i don't always agree with him.
- overall he just seems to push himself in any direction he can and generally stay super-busy. i guess you might say he's a workaholic, though.


workaholic <> hard worker, eh?
or is it? i don't know.
he's talked about having experienced a fukked up childhood right? Im assuming that his sum of bad life experiences push him to continue his podcast. For one, a lot of people including myself, need to stay busy with whatever in order to avoid having bad/sad thoughts. I dont think people realize how much self improvement you can gain from picking up a hobby you enjoy, it can literally transform your life.

I once hooked up with an extremely clingy girl, she had absolutely nothing going on in her life other than work - no career goals, personal goals, hobbies of any sort, NADA. I tried to nudge her into the right direction by hinting she should be working towards something in her life. I broke it off shortly after bc she was such a miserable human being that depended on attention to function. Anyhow, she now has worthwhile life goals and seems pretty damn happu as well as a completely refined personality with good character.

Point is, people underestimate the therapeutic benefits of a hobby.

[gigantes]

@highwhey,
she might have gotten on to the right mood meds, worked through her blockage or gotten similarly effective treatment. it's amazing what can happen when a sheltered person gets respite from their storm.


"a lot of people including myself, need to stay busy with whatever in order to avoid having bad/sad thoughts"

that's a really terrifying one, to me.

i mean, a lot of very important decisions and POV's are best-reached by slowing down, reflecting... taking a a calm, balanced look at a situation. but that's not us, for the most part.

[riseagainst]

never liked Joe Rogan, he's annoying.

[$LakerGold]

People on ISH are c*nts, & Joe is like the anti-c*nt. There, let's put it like that.

[chips93]

- making it as an actor usually involves years of suffering, menial work, and heartbreak.
- making it as a comedian is usually a long, brutal process.
- earning black belts in combat sports that actually matter takes years of blood, sweat and tears.
- hosting a radio show for years, putting himself out there when he could have played it safe and enjoyed his semi-retirement... that shows something to me, even when i don't always agree with him.
- overall he just seems to push himself in any direction he can and generally stay super-busy. i guess you might say he's a workaholic, though.

he's definitely a hard worker, but when did he have a radio show?

[highwhey]

@highwhey,
she might have gotten on to the right mood meds, worked through her blockage or gotten similarly effective treatment. it's amazing what can happen when a sheltered person gets respite from their storm.


"a lot of people including myself, need to stay busy with whatever in order to avoid having bad/sad thoughts"

that's a really terrifying one, to me.

i mean, a lot of very important decisions and POV's are best-reached by slowing down, reflecting... taking a a calm, balanced look at a situation. but that's not us, for the most part.
She certainly could have reach equilibrium via medical intervention but I choose to believe that having allocated time in more engaging activities changed her. I've been there myself, no job, no school, no motivation. It was a low point of my life but ive discovered that applying your energy and time to something you want to achieve leaves little to no room for those "dark thoughts". At the end of the day it is more of an anecdote than a fact but it is logically sound.

I agree though, taking time to reflect on problems can yield solutions and it skips the ride on the emotional roller coaster.

[DeuceWallaces]

He's mostly full of shit and trying to defend his own luck. Most people in the US work really hard every day and don't get shit or go anywhere. The majority of successful people were lucky. Their parents were rich, they knew someone, they fell into something, etc. Good shit just happens to some people, and you don't necessarily have to be hard working to have it turn into your good fortune. They're just lucky.

[kNIOKAS]

i disagree complely. im from a humble middle class family.

no matter how hard i tried , I COULD NEVER be a top banker, top lawyer, top politician.. that is reserved for the elite who only breed other elite.
Why would would you want to be an evil person? Chillax.

[$LakerGold]

Lotta weak bitches in this thread.
:lol

[Hazard]

Lotta weak bitches in this thread.
Spoke my thoughts. Success does not always mean money. Success is setting a goal and achieving it through goddamn pain and blood. Not having goals is a weak bitch thing to do and weak bitches will whine and call people achieving their goals lucky.

[Jailblazers7]

Please, saying this makes you sound so naive. I'm in a great position to be "succesful", and I'm not about shit when it comes to hard work. I didn't work hard to get in this position. My girlfriend has a management position at an oil company without having a diploma or experience, because nepotism.

Life isn't a fairytale, everyone doesn't get what they deserve. Plenty of people work really hard and go nowhere. The way Rogan capitalized on his opportunities is admirable, but he isn't famous because he worked hard. You don't get equal return on the effort you put in, success is not about that. And when succesful people are trying to tell you that it is about that it's more about servicing their own ego.

Yeah, there was a really good segment in the recent Will Ferrell interview on the WTF podcast with Marc Maron that talks about advice Will's dad gave him when he was starting out.

Will's dad basically said, "You have talent but it takes a lot of luck so if you are feeling really defeated in 5 years...don't be afraid to quit. You won't be a failure if you decide to move on." Will said it kind of took a weight off of his shoulders because he realized that it wasn't necessarily his fault if he did become a big comedian or actor.

[DropStep]

Lotta weak bitches in this thread.

It seriously bottles my mind.

[IGOTGAME]

i disagree complely. im from a humble middle class family.

no matter how hard i tried , I COULD NEVER be a top banker, top lawyer, top politician.. that is reserved for the elite who only breed other elite.

i disagree with Rogan but I diagree with you just as much.