View Full Version : Report: Heat have interest in Celtics
Lebron23
12-15-2013, 11:50 PM
The Heat are doing just fine at 17-6, sitting at second place in the East behind a Pacers team playing as if the playoffs were going on right now.
While Indiana is at full strength and crushing the competition to this point in the season — Heat included — Miami is resting Dwyane Wade occasionally to preserve his knees for the postseason, and is still bringing along Greg Oden slowly to the point where he isn’t expected to crack the rotation until after the All-Star break.
Still, it makes some sense that given the Pacers’ early dominance and the uncertainty surrounding Oden (and to some extent, Wade) for the regular season, Miami may look around for some available talent to bolster the roster. And Boston might not be a bad place to start.
From Mitch Lawrence of the New York Daily News:
Miami is looking to deal for a young wing player who can score and take some of the load off Dwyane Wade. A few GMs have identified Boston’s Jordan Crawford as a player the Heat will go after in the coming days/weeks.
That would be reigning Eastern Conference Player of the Week Jordan Crawford, who helped lead Boston to the only 3-0 record in the East last week while turning in averages of 23.3 points (fourth in the conference) on 61 percent shooting, to go along with 3.0 rebounds and 6.7 assists per contest.
If the Heat did trade for Crawford, it would likely be no more than a rental for this season. Crawford will be a restricted free agent next year if a qualifying offer of $3.2 million is made, but a strong season in Miami would drive up his value beyond what the Heat would commit in long-term salary.
The Celtics, meanwhile, are in an interesting spot. Much like the Suns, they were believed to be setting up for a complete rebuild that would involve finishing the season with a record poor enough to end up as a lottery team vying for one of the top picks in a very deep 2014 draft. Instead, Boston finds itself atop the dreadful Atlantic division which means the four seed in the Eastern Conference playoff picture, despite the sub-.500 record.
Boston isn’t exactly planning on trying to win now like the Suns, because they don’t have players like Eric Bledsoe and Goran Dragic on the roster, along with more first round draft picks than they know what to do with in the coming seasons. So Crawford may indeed be in play, despite the Celtics’ playoff chances and their better-than-expected start.
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/14/report-heat-have-interest-in-celtics-jordan-crawford/
Lebron doesn't hold any grudges. All he wants is to win. Crawford is going to be a solid additions for the Heat.
Chuckbrook
12-15-2013, 11:54 PM
I don't see this happening. Sounds a little far fetched to me.
-Brook
researcher
12-16-2013, 12:10 AM
The problem for Boston is you have all these draft picks now and you know its so difficult to tank in the east with all the bad teams in there. Do you do some more trades to see if you can tank even more which is looking very difficult to do or do you work with what you have and hope your current draft picks bring something good.
I think they go with the latter, I don't see Miami having anything good to offer and why make Miami even better by offering such a young and potential player?
Fudge
12-16-2013, 12:15 AM
Maybe If hasn't played so goddamn good thus far, they'd have a chance. :oldlol: What kind of assets do they even have to make this happen?
Bandito
12-16-2013, 12:16 AM
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/14/report-heat-have-interest-in-celtics-jordan-crawford/
Lebron doesn't hold any grudges. All he wants is to win. Crawford is going to be a solid additions for the Heat.
Why do you mean Lebron doesn't hold any grudges. Crawford was in the Wiz when the Heat were beating the Celts if I am not mistaken. And why are you talking like the trade already done:lol
TexasBloodMoney
12-16-2013, 12:18 AM
Why do you mean Lebron doesn't hold any grudges. Crawford was in the Wiz when the Heat were beating the Celts if I am not mistaken. And why are you talking like the trade already done:lol
Crawford was the high-schooler who dunked on Bron bron.
Bandito
12-16-2013, 12:20 AM
Crawford was the high-schooler who dunked on Bron bron.
That was him!!! Holy crap how time flies...:bowdown:
coin24
12-16-2013, 12:20 AM
They should just get asik, Tyson chandler and maybe rondo
hawkfan
12-16-2013, 12:31 AM
Can someone put up that gif of Pat Riley as the Godfather with Allen, James, and Wade?
He's trying to do it again to the Celtics, adding a young guard the Heat could use to replace their older guys next year.
TylerOO
12-16-2013, 12:35 AM
Get a big man.
kamil
12-16-2013, 12:36 AM
Crawford was the high-schooler who dunked on Bron bron.
Nike confiscated the video... Here's Jordan Crawford confirming the dunk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Jbn3BBXdQ
russwest0
12-16-2013, 01:05 AM
lmao, LeBron be teaming up with everybody that has shit on him in one way or another
Lebron23
12-16-2013, 02:48 AM
Get a big man.
Bring Back this guy. he averaged 25 ppg and 12 rpg in China.
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/files/2011/12/Eddy-Curry-blog.jpg
coin24
12-16-2013, 02:49 AM
Bring Back this guy. he averaged 25 ppg and 12 rpg in China.
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/files/2011/12/Eddy-Curry-blog.jpg
Yeah why not, they never really have him a chance
cos88
12-16-2013, 03:23 AM
lmao, LeBron be teaming up with everybody that has shit on him in one way or another
how does it feel that until lebron retires westbrook won't win shit :roll: ?
dilley
12-16-2013, 03:25 AM
Nike confiscated the video... Here's Jordan Crawford confirming the dunk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Jbn3BBXdQ
They gave the tape back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sL3KDhhUZ0
bdreason
12-16-2013, 03:26 AM
Why would the Celtics do any favors for the Heat?
If they want to move Crawford, they can find better value elsewhere. His stock is soaring right now.
russwest0
12-16-2013, 03:29 AM
how does it feel that until lebron retires westbrook won't win shit :roll: ?
:facepalm
He's gonna win FMVP this year. MIA and IND have no answer for Westbrook.
Rolando
12-16-2013, 03:48 AM
Why would the Celtics do any favors for the Heat?
If they want to move Crawford, they can find better value elsewhere. His stock is soaring right now.
This
ProfessorMurder
12-16-2013, 04:14 AM
:oldlol: The f*ck would they give up that Boston wants?
Of course Miami are interested, but let's be real what do they even have that Boston would be willing to take on? And I can't see Boston helping out Miami so it'd have to be a damn good offer haha
Why would the Celtics do any favors for the Heat?
If they want to move Crawford, they can find better value elsewhere. His stock is soaring right now.
Why wouldn't they? Miami is not a threat to Boston anymore. Maybe when Boston was a contender it was obviously never going to happen but now? And Crawford has a player option at 3.2m that he'll obviously never accept. If Boston ain't planning on paying him and keeping him around they could send him away and get something back. Not many teams even want to trade for him at this point because they'll only have him for a few months.
Fudge
12-16-2013, 06:43 AM
Why wouldn't they? Miami is not a threat to Boston anymore. Maybe when Boston was a contender it was obviously never going to happen but now? And Crawford has a player option at 3.2m that he'll obviously never accept. If Boston ain't planning on paying him and keeping him around they could send him away and get something back. Not many teams even want to trade for him at this point because they'll only have him for a few months.
His value is as at an all-time high brush. There's NOBODY they'd even want on Miami. If anything, it would probably be Cole, but I doubt Riley gives him up.
The **** is Miami doing shopping for a perimeter scorer anyways? :oldlol:
His value is as at an all-time high brush. There's NOBODY they'd even want on Miami. If anything, it would probably be Cole, but I doubt Riley gives him up.
The **** is Miami doing shopping for a perimeter scorer anyways? :oldlol:
Boston have to offer him big money to get him to stay. Do you think they'd be willing to commit to big money on him? Wouldn't it be better if they got something for him at this point and let Miami end up losing him + whatever they give up to Boston in this trade? Some team will probably end up offering him big money next Summer anyway and neither Miami nor Boston would want to match for different reasons.
And to your second part, yes, I have no feckin' idea why Miami are out after a SG. How about looking for big men? Probably the worst rebounding team out there.
Real Men Wear Green
12-16-2013, 07:53 AM
Boston have to offer him big money to get him to stay. Do you think they'd be willing to commit to big money on him? Wouldn't it be better if they got something for him at this point and let Miami end up losing him + whatever they give up to Boston in this trade? Some team will probably end up offering him big money next Summer anyway and neither Miami nor Boston would want to match for different reasons.
You have yet to come up with a reason for the Cs to trade him to Miami.
plowking
12-16-2013, 09:48 AM
Gotta love the Heat. Don't bother really investing in the draft, and looking for potential gems, then supposedly want to go after players like this.
As a fan, draft time, and grading players for me is one of the funnest times in the season. Yet I support a team like the Heat, who for me, is one of the worst in terms of doing anything through the draft. Funny how things work out.
Get this young guard you want in next years draft, and actually spend some time assessing guys and finding the right piece. So many great 3rd men, or 3 and D guys have been had late in drafts. Exactly what we need. Worry about a big man who can get some boards for now. We're getting killed out there.
You have yet to come up with a reason for the Cs to trade him to Miami.
to avoid losing him to another team for nothing next summer? He will not pick up his player option at 3.2m and will for sure end up being offered bigger money next summer. As a Celtic fan, do you expect them to match and commit to whatever offer comes his way?
to avoid losing him to another team for nothing next summer? He will not pick up his player option at 3.2m and will for sure end up being offered bigger money next summer. As a Celtic fan, do you expect them to match and commit to whatever offer comes his way?
Whatever trade you come up with for Jordan Crawford, other teams can do better. That is the point here. Boston puts Crawford on the table and they will not say Miami Heat offers the best value. You act like not only does Miami have the best value, Boston would not explore other options value wise.
coin24
12-16-2013, 09:57 AM
His value is as at an all-time high brush. There's NOBODY they'd even want on Miami. If anything, it would probably be Cole, but I doubt Riley gives him up.
The **** is Miami doing shopping for a perimeter scorer anyways? :oldlol:
Don't worry, oden will be ready for the playoffs:oldlol:
But yeah, the heat have more than enough offense they need some bigs..
Who would they even have available to trade? Joel Anthony?
Isn't kwa-May available?
Whatever trade you come up with for Jordan Crawford, other teams can do better. That is the point here. Boston puts Crawford on the table and they will not say Miami Heat offers the best value. You act like not only does Miami have the best value, Boston would not explore other options value wise.
Other teams have to trade an asset for basically a 6 month loan since nothing will be a guarantee next summer. Boston won't get an offer from any team.
Miami is different, they don't care about the future. They are the only team who'd be interested in a 6 month long run with Crafword. They want him for this end of the regular season + playoff for that championship. They don't value draft picks and are banking all of their money on the big 3 staying after this season.
El Kabong
12-16-2013, 10:00 AM
to avoid losing him to another team for nothing next summer? He will not pick up his player option at 3.2m and will for sure end up being offered bigger money next summer. As a Celtic fan, do you expect them to match and commit to whatever offer comes his way?
You really think Boston would be sweating over losing Crawford for nothing next year? And do you really think Boston would be interested in whatever Joel Anthony + draft pick scenario Miami offer? I'd rather let him walk than clog up another $5-6 million next year for Anthony and whoever they can draft with pick. #30.
Other teams have to trade an asset for basically a 6 month loan since nothing will be a guarantee next summer. Boston won't get an offer from any team.
Miami is different, they don't care about the future. They are the only team who'd be interested in a 6 month long run with Crafword. They want him for this end of the regular season + playoff for that championship. They don't value draft picks and are banking all of their money on the big 3 staying after this season.
I dont even know what you are saying. Probably would help if I was patient enough to read what it is you are trying to say.
Anyway, can you put out a trade for Jordan Crawford that Miami would offer? Do you need a link to their roster? And a link to what picks they dont/dont own?
Real Men Wear Green
12-16-2013, 10:13 AM
to avoid losing him to another team for nothing next summer? He will not pick up his player option at 3.2m and will for sure end up being offered bigger money next summer. As a Celtic fan, do you expect them to match and commit to whatever offer comes his way?
I hope that Ainge would accurately gauge his value and act accordingly. Both dealing with him as a free agent as well as any potential trade. There is no reason for the Cs to deal exclusively with the Heat. None. The Heat wanting him doesn't matter to the Cs. If Miami comes with a deal that helps the Cs maybe they do it but the same could be said for 28 other teams in the NBA.
I find it funny that you are acting like this is an urgent matter. Oh no, Jordan Crawford may leave as a free agent. What team doesn't have free agents?
ballup
12-16-2013, 10:21 AM
And what exactly can the Heat return in intriguing value?
All Net
12-16-2013, 10:52 AM
And what exactly can the Heat return in intriguing value?
Celtics wouldn't want equal value back.
Some of ya'll will believe any report. "Herp derp what will the Heat give up???" :facepalm
How about nothing. Because there's no legitimate interest. Crawford would barely get any clock on the Heat. Between Chalmers, Cole, Wade, Allen there are hardly any backcourt minutes. And it's not like Crawford is some world beater. Irrational confidence chucker, who plays zero defense.
pegasus
12-16-2013, 11:45 AM
I'm sure the Celtics feel like they owe the Heat a favor for the way they took Ray Allen off their hands.
The Heat have nothing but garbage to offer any team. I'm sure there are plenty of players the they would love to have, but unless the Celtics plan on just giving players away I don't see it happening. One of the downfalls of having a super team is not having trade assets.
Miami are looking for expirers. They only want a player for this years playoff run.
Also from Crawfords perspective playing for Miami would not be good for him. He'd just end up at the back of the bench in Miami. Behind Wade and Allen when healthy.
Still don't understand the need for SG. Just give Beasley more playing time when Wade is taking those nights off. Go look for a big man instead.
DStebb716
12-16-2013, 01:17 PM
Nike confiscated the video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sL3KDhhUZ0
You mean that video?
BlackVVaves
12-16-2013, 03:00 PM
I'm sure the Celtics feel like they owe the Heat a favor for the way they took Ray Allen off their hands.
This. Why the **** would Ainge deal with the Heat unless the package offer was vastly in the C's best interest? And there's nothing Miami can offer that would equate that.
People who clamor "bu-bu-but they gotta make a move, they can't lose him did nothing!!!" severely lack common, or intellectually-provoked sense :facepalm
There is a substantial difference between losing a extremely valuable player who is likely leaving a contender in the offseason, and losing a mediocre, dispensable player on a rebuilding, or otherwise underwhelming team.
This. Why the **** would Ainge deal with the Heat unless the package offer was vastly in the C's best interest? And there's nothing Miami can offer that would equate that.
People who clamor "bu-bu-but they gotta make a move, they can't lose him did nothing!!!" severely lack common, or intellectually-provoked sense :facepalm
There is a substantial difference between losing a extremely valuable player who is likely leaving a contender in the offseason, and losing a mediocre, dispensable player on a rebuilding, or otherwise underwhelming team.
All of that would make sense if Ainge actually cared or saw Miami as a threat. The man just traded Garnett, Pierce and Terry to a division rival. Clearly he's not thinking about screwing over certain teams.
Miami will probably offer him their Philly pick in next years draft + future picks. It all comes down to what Boston think will happen to Crawford in 6 months.
ballup
12-16-2013, 06:22 PM
Celtics wouldn't want equal value back.
Oh right. My bad. Ainge is always surprising me with his crazy moves.
ballup
12-16-2013, 06:28 PM
All of that would make sense if Ainge actually cared or saw Miami as a threat. The man just traded Garnett, Pierce and Terry to a division rival. Clearly he's not thinking about screwing over certain teams.
Miami will probably offer him their Philly pick in next years draft + future picks. It all comes down to what Boston think will happen to Crawford in 6 months.
Philadelphia's 1st round pick to Miami protected for selections 1-14 in 2014 or 1-14 in 2015; if Philadelphia has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Miami by 2015, then Philadelphia will instead convey its 2015 2nd round pick and 2016 2nd round pick to Miami [Miami-Philadelphia, 6/28/2012]
Uh ya..no.
hawkfan
12-16-2013, 06:28 PM
You really think Boston would be sweating over losing Crawford for nothing next year? And do you really think Boston would be interested in whatever Joel Anthony + draft pick scenario Miami offer? I'd rather let him walk than clog up another $5-6 million next year for Anthony and whoever they can draft with pick. #30.
Crawford would be a nice pickup for the Jazz.
Shade8780
12-16-2013, 06:52 PM
Crawford to the Knicks for Shumpert and a future 1st rounder. Same deal as Lowry, except they're putting up similar stats but Crawford's doing it on better efficiency.
GASOL IS GOAT
12-18-2013, 07:12 AM
Damn Lebron might as well join the 1992 dream team seeing he needs so much help to beat on a college caliber Eastern conference :oldlol:
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