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Nick Young
12-16-2013, 07:43 PM
Such a brilliant movie, but with such a BS unsatisfactory cliff hanger ending.

hateraid
12-16-2013, 07:46 PM
Such a brilliant movie, but with such a BS unsatisfactory cliff hanger ending.

I know right? Even my sis who read the book was confused

Swaggin916
12-16-2013, 07:47 PM
I will see it but I am wary. Didn't really like the first one and the metascore isn't much better. It just didn't compare to the first 3 to me at all... but then again I am not 14 anymore.

K
12-16-2013, 07:49 PM
I thought the golden dwarf was some kind of ancient machine that was going to open it's eyes and proceed to kick the dragon's ass, at least provide a challenge, not that it just pours all over the dragon, the gold still being in a liquid state.

rezznor
12-16-2013, 07:55 PM
[QUOTE=K

Le Shaqtus
12-16-2013, 08:09 PM
I thought the ending was awesome, the beginning of the last movie is going to kick ass

hateraid
12-16-2013, 08:15 PM
Yea but the part where gandalf summoned a balrog to battle smaug was brilliant

I concur :cheers:

Nick Young
12-16-2013, 08:19 PM
I will see it but I am wary. Didn't really like the first one and the metascore isn't much better. It just didn't compare to the first 3 to me at all... but then again I am not 14 anymore.
Its way better then the first one but just bullshit how it ends on a non-climax BS.

SPOILER:
Make it an hour longer and show them killing the bloody dragon!

I dont mind them screwing up the books and changing things but they're making it that in the third move like 3 major events that were supposed to happen at different times are all going to happen at once.

rezznor
12-16-2013, 09:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVy7YeeqGZQ

Found a cam of that scene

jamal99
12-18-2013, 09:18 PM
[QUOTE=K

ROCSteady
12-18-2013, 10:04 PM
Haven't seen this one. The first one was pretty enjoyable, even if it did take awhile to get going. I thought the menacing antagonist with the claw hand was badass.

I just don't understand how they stretched out a short book into 3 movies whereas the first trilogy actually had 3 separate novels to be adapted.

Greedy ass studios, ruining organic pace of stories for an unnecessary amount of entries in the series.

jamal99
12-18-2013, 11:50 PM
Haven't seen this one. The first one was pretty enjoyable, even if it did take awhile to get going. I thought the menacing antagonist with the claw hand was badass.

I just don't understand how they stretched out a short book into 3 movies whereas the first trilogy actually had 3 separate novels to be adapted.

Greedy ass studios, ruining organic pace of stories for an unnecessary amount of entries in the series.
I didn't even know The Hobbit book is only 310 pages :wtf:
And studio still manages to make a trilogy out of it, damn those money grabbers...

JEFFERSON MONEY
12-18-2013, 11:52 PM
edit:

Can anyone let me know what's up with Smaug's senses?

Does he have sh!tty vision or hearing or smell or something and then it turns awesome and turns sh!tty again.

He pinpoints Bilbo fairly easily, but starts to lose it real quick.

Or do the aromas of the flames overpower it.

Loneshot
12-18-2013, 11:54 PM
I'm not watching anymore of this dude's films. All they have is people walking around and talking. I did enjoy the LOTR trilogy, but i could only watch those once. The first Hobbit...i tried to watch it about five times and fell asleep every single time. I did read the book though back in middle school.

red1
12-19-2013, 12:03 AM
I'm not watching anymore of this dude's films. All they have is people walking around and talking. I did enjoy the LOTR trilogy, but i could only watch those once. The first Hobbit...i tried to watch it about five times and fell asleep every single time. I did read the book though back in middle school.
You aren't the only one. I can see why some people like it but shit definitely isnt for me. The hobbit, LOTR, all of it

cuad
12-19-2013, 12:16 AM
Why the **** can't they call it Hobbit 2?

hateraid
12-19-2013, 12:41 AM
Anyone find Tauriel hot in elf form? :lol

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/34600000/First-look-at-Tauriel-in-The-Hobbit-The-Desolation-of-Smaug-evangeline-lilly-34647491-500-699.jpg

K
12-19-2013, 01:12 AM
Anyone find Tauriel hot in elf form? :lol

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/34600000/First-look-at-Tauriel-in-The-Hobbit-The-Desolation-of-Smaug-evangeline-lilly-34647491-500-699.jpg

:cheers:

K
12-19-2013, 01:15 AM
She's gives wood elf a whole new dimension.

bdreason
12-19-2013, 04:23 AM
The first Hobbit film put me to sleep... literally.

rufuspaul
12-19-2013, 01:18 PM
I can understand why they made so many changes from the book. The book is essentially a kid's fairytale. Tolkien wrote the LOTR trilogy almost 30 years later after he had seriously developed the mythology. Jackson is trying to make The Hobbit more of a precursor than it was originally intended. I'm cool with that. People always complain that films adapted from books are forced to leave out so much in order to work in the time frame. These films are the opposite.

I'm cool with the ending too. In white:
There is a pretty epic battle coming up. If they had included that in this film then the 3rd film would only consist of Bilbo's journey back to the Shire.

rezznor
12-19-2013, 02:31 PM
I can understand why they made so many changes from the book. The book is essentially a kid's fairytale. Tolkien wrote the LOTR trilogy almost 30 years later after he had seriously developed the mythology. Jackson is trying to make The Hobbit more of a precursor than it was originally intended. I'm cool with that. People always complain that films adapted from books are forced to leave out so much in order to work in the time frame. These films are the opposite.

I'm cool with the ending too. In white:
Dumbledore kills Snape.


yup. the hobbit was a Children's book. I think they took some stuff from the Simmilarion and added it to the movies, right?

rufuspaul
12-19-2013, 03:23 PM
yup. the hobbit was a Children's book. I think they took some stuff from the Simmilarion and added it to the movies, right?


I believe so.

Trollsmasher
12-19-2013, 05:24 PM
yup. the hobbit was a Children's book. I think they took some stuff from the Simmilarion and added it to the movies, right?
No, only from the appendixes from the LOTR.

They don't have rights to use anything else, be it Sillmarillion or Unfinished Tales for example.

That's why for example Gandalf in the 1st movie does not remember the names of the last two wizards, because they were never used in the materials they can use.

rufuspaul
12-19-2013, 05:29 PM
No, only from the appendixes from the LOTR.

They don't have rights to use anything else, be it Sillmarillion or Unfinished Tales for example.

That's why for example Gandalf in the 1st movie does not remember the names of the last two wizards, because they were never used in the materials they can use.


Good info. Thanks.