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TheMarkMadsen
12-16-2013, 11:29 PM
30 point games (Finals)
1)Jerry West -- 31
2)Michael Jordan -- 23
3)Elgin Baylor -- 19
4)Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 16
5)Shaquille O'Neal -- 16
6)Bob Pettit -- 14
7)Kobe Bryant -- 13
8)Rick Barry -- 8
9)Hakeem Olajuwon -- 8
10)John Havlicek -- 8
11)Sam Jones -- 8
12)George Mikan -- 7
13)Dwyane Wade -- 7


9 other players with 4-5.

Mr. Jabbar
12-16-2013, 11:31 PM
in the finals you have carriers and riders, those are the carriers :applause:

Droid101
12-16-2013, 11:32 PM
30 point games (Finals)
1)Jerry West -- 31
2)Michael Jordan -- 23
3)Elgin Baylor -- 19
4)Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 16
5)Shaquille O'Neal -- 16
6)Bob Pettit -- 14
7)Kobe Bryant -- 13
8)Rick Barry -- 8
9)Hakeem Olajuwon -- 8
10)John Havlicek -- 8
11)Sam Jones -- 8
12)George Mikan -- 7
13)Dwyane Wade -- 7


9 other players with 5 or less.
:applause:

See, some people on this site actually come up with clever ways to troll.

Take note, all you fledgling trolls out there.

Yao Ming's Foot
12-16-2013, 11:36 PM
Where is Lebron?

:biggums:

coin24
12-16-2013, 11:42 PM
That's funny, I've never seen this stat on ESPN before:oldlol:

Deuce Bigalow
12-16-2013, 11:45 PM
Wilt the Big Dipper living up to his name :applause:

redboy
12-16-2013, 11:45 PM
That's funny, I've never seen this stat on ESPN before:oldlol:
doesn't it remind you of a certain video with jordan crawford in it?

VIntageNOvel
12-16-2013, 11:47 PM
day 30
still no sight of leallen stan

AintNoSunshine
12-16-2013, 11:50 PM
Where is Lebron?

:biggums:

:oldlol:

And where's Bird, Magic, Russell, Chamberlain right?

russwest0
12-16-2013, 11:51 PM
Durant will be on there by his 2nd Finals probably, before LeBron who has been there 4 times :lol :lol :lol

Mr. Jabbar
12-16-2013, 11:52 PM
leallen

:roll:

moe94
12-16-2013, 11:52 PM
:applause:

See, some people on this site actually come up with clever ways to troll.

Take note, all you fledgling trolls out there.

Does it physically hurt being as biased as you are?

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
12-16-2013, 11:54 PM
:oldlol:

And where's Bird, Magic, Russell, Chamberlain right?

Scoring is the ONLY measure of greatness, ya didn't know? :lol

Deuce Bigalow
12-16-2013, 11:56 PM
The GOAT is on there.

George Mikan

MP.Trey
12-16-2013, 11:57 PM
Obvious agenda is obvious. Fkn Jerry West homers. :facepalm
lol jerry west homers

Deuce Bigalow
12-16-2013, 11:57 PM
:oldlol:

And where's Bird, Magic, Russell, Chamberlain right?
Russell? Bill Russell? Do you even know who that is? :facepalm

Budadiiii
12-16-2013, 11:58 PM
Durant will be on there by his 2nd Finals probably, before LeBron who has been there 4 times :lol :lol :lol
:lol

This n*gga averages 30 in the finals.

On a different stratosphere than Bron. Bron is top ten if we're talking regular season but reg season doesn't mean shit in the grand scheme of things. lulz.

Playing on a stacked team to cheap rings does not get you respect from intelligent bball fans.

LeBron stans want to make everyone believe there is some sort of conspiracy against him or some shit, ... of course! Delusional fans don't want to accept that Bron isn't in the same class as MJ, Bird, Magic, Kareem, Or Durant.

Westbrook averages 27/7/7 in the finals.

At the end of the day, the finals are the only games that matter.

LeBron has been average in the finals overall. Not an all time great IMO

Durant 31/6 on 51%. Damn.. that boy good. Respect to Kevin and Russell.

Jameerthefear
12-17-2013, 12:00 AM
Laker "fans" are fvcking crazy. Every single day. Every single fvcking day you guys have to try to prop him up. I'll tell you Laker clowns what, Jerry West may be the logo, but he is NOT better than Jordan. Jeez

AintNoSunshine
12-17-2013, 12:02 AM
Russell? Bill Russell? Do you even know who that is? :facepalm


Use your little brain, try to figure out what I was responding to. If you're still too dumb to figure it out, pm me.

MP.Trey
12-17-2013, 12:03 AM
Laker "fans" are fvcking crazy. Every single day. Every single fvcking day you guys have to try to prop him up. I'll tell you Laker clowns what, Jerry West may be the logo, but he is NOT better than Jordan. Jeez

If I ever shoot myself. Blame Jerry West fans.

VIntageNOvel
12-17-2013, 12:03 AM
Scoring is the ONLY measure of greatness, ya didn't know? :lol


Laker "fans" are fvcking crazy. Every single day. Every single fvcking day you guys have to try to prop him up. I'll tell you Laker clowns what, Jerry West may be the logo, but he is NOT better than Jordan. Jeez

you got all that from OP :biggums:
you must be great at drawing conclusion

what i see is a list of final scorer, no different from top assist of all time etc

KingBeasley08
12-17-2013, 12:05 AM
Does it physically hurt being as biased as you are?
If someone makes a similar thread that's trolling Kobe, dude would be crying :lol

moe94
12-17-2013, 12:06 AM
If someone makes a similar thread that's trolling Kobe, dude would be crying :lol

He did. Go check that other 9er parody thread. Dude is asking for bans. :oldlol:

Deuce Bigalow
12-17-2013, 12:07 AM
Use your little brain, try to figure out what I was responding to. If you're still too dumb to figure it out, pm me.
And you compared Magic too SMH.

Jordan's on it, Shaq is on it, Kareem, Kobe, Hakeem, and the great Mikan too. Even Lebron's teammate is on the list.

KingBeasley08
12-17-2013, 12:08 AM
He did. Go check that other 9er parody thread. Dude is asking for bans. :oldlol:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

VIntageNOvel
12-17-2013, 12:10 AM
And you compared Magic too SMH.

Jordan's on it, Shaq is on it, Kareem, Kobe, Hakeem, and the great Mikan too. Even Lebron's teammate is on the list.

key word :applause:

HoopsFanNumero1
12-17-2013, 12:10 AM
:applause:

See, some people on this site actually come up with clever ways to troll.

Take note, all you fledgling trolls out there.

This dude is pathetic. He was crying like a hoe a few days ago when someone made a Kobe troll thread as a joke.

AintNoSunshine
12-17-2013, 12:11 AM
And you compared Magic too SMH.

Jordan's on it, Shaq is on it, Kareem, Kobe, Hakeem, and the great Mikan too. Even Lebron's teammate is on the list.


And? Think why isn't Russell and Magic on the list.

It's like I'm a kindergartner :lol

red1
12-17-2013, 12:16 AM
To be fair to lebron he did score 8 points in a finals game before. That counts for something right?

longtime lurker
12-17-2013, 12:18 AM
Damn Jerry West was a beast

branslowski
12-17-2013, 12:19 AM
How many Bron got?

Magic 32
12-17-2013, 12:20 AM
To be fair to lebron he did score 8 points in a finals game before. That counts for something right?

8 points with an asterisk.

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/lebron-flop-3.gif

red1
12-17-2013, 12:22 AM
8 points with an asterisk.

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/lebron-flop-3.gif
Leave him alone, the guy just wants to win and that was the most impact he was able to make all series

Deuce Bigalow
12-17-2013, 12:23 AM
And? Think why isn't Russell and Magic on the list.

It's like I'm a kindergartner :lol
Russell and Magic were not known for their scoring. 30 point games isn't something you can measure them with.

Burgz V2
12-17-2013, 12:24 AM
That's funny, I've never seen this stat on ESPN before:oldlol:

it's locked in the basement with LeBron's hairline.

Are those jokes still funny? Oh well. Let the troll continue i guess.

Budadiiii
12-17-2013, 12:24 AM
To be fair to lebron he did score 8 points in a finals game before. That counts for something right?
TF?

When?

I was born in 2012 so I'm not the biggest bball historian yet but this actually happened?

If so, why do people compare him to the greats? Bird dropped 8 but it was a different era. In todays era 8 points is WOAT level.

ripthekik
12-17-2013, 12:24 AM
omg :roll: :roll: :roll:

this thread and op :applause: :applause:

I wonder why there are still no signs of a le-stan...

Lebron23
12-17-2013, 12:27 AM
But Lebron still has the same number of finals MVP as Kobe. How many triple doubles?? How many memorable Game 7 performance??

red1
12-17-2013, 12:27 AM
But Lebron still has the same number of finals MVP as Kobe. How many triple doubles?? How many memorable Game 7 performance??
how many headbands?

branslowski
12-17-2013, 12:33 AM
But Lebron still has the same number of finals MVP as Kobe. How many triple doubles?? How many memorable Game 7 performance??

Jason Kidd got more triple doubles than Bron.

Game 7s?? When your team loses 3 games in a series? That's a stat Jordan would have wanted to dominate.:rolleyes:

secund2nun
12-17-2013, 12:39 AM
Jason Kidd got more triple doubles than Bron.

Game 7s?? When your team loses 3 games in a series? That's a stat Jordan would have wanted to dominate.:rolleyes:

It's not like Jordan lost 3 times in the first round while Lebron has never lost in the first round before :rolleyes:

secund2nun
12-17-2013, 12:41 AM
Hey guys...didn't you hear?? Bird, Magic and Lebron suck. Kobe is the GOAT. Scoring points without any regard for scoring efficiency, defense, rebounding, passing is all that matters.

This message was paid for by Kobe ******gers who ignore Kobe in his prime being exposed for the first round loser he is.

russwest0
12-17-2013, 12:41 AM
To be fair to lebron he did score 8 points in a finals game before. That counts for something right?

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Rep

Mr. Jabbar
12-17-2013, 12:42 AM
But Lebron still has the same number of finals MVP as Kobe. How many triple doubles?? How many memorable Game 7 performance??

how dare you talk about memorable moments when lebron highlights come in .xls :facepalm

moe94
12-17-2013, 12:46 AM
Hey guys...didn't you hear?? Bird, Magic and Lebron suck. Kobe is the GOAT. Scoring points without any regard for scoring efficiency, defense, rebounding, passing is all that matters.

This message was paid for by Kobe ******gers who ignore Kobe in his prime being exposed for the first round loser he is.

They aren't even trying, though. You let them do this to you. :facepalm

branslowski
12-17-2013, 12:48 AM
Hey guys...didn't you hear?? Bird, Magic and Lebron suck. Kobe is the GOAT. Scoring points without any regard for scoring efficiency, defense, rebounding, passing is all that matters.

This message was paid for by Kobe ******gers who ignore Kobe in his prime being exposed for the first round loser he is.

Go check out "imbutthurt.com" bro, your post is trending.:cheers:

The-Legend-24
12-17-2013, 12:49 AM
:oldlol: @ Bron and Wilt not being on the list.

alec613
12-17-2013, 01:29 AM
doesn't it remind you of a certain video with jordan crawford in it?
:applause:

VIntageNOvel
12-17-2013, 02:40 AM
:oldlol: @ Bron and Wilt not being on the list.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=318188

as for lebron, in the final suddenly his ppg drop, assist number up, ray allen number sky rocket :applause:

russwest0
12-17-2013, 03:24 AM
:lol

This n*gga averages 30 in the finals.

On a different stratosphere than Bron. Bron is top ten if we're talking regular season but reg season doesn't mean shit in the grand scheme of things. lulz.

Playing on a stacked team to cheap rings does not get you respect from intelligent bball fans.

LeBron stans want to make everyone believe there is some sort of conspiracy against him or some shit, ... of course! Delusional fans don't want to accept that Bron isn't in the same class as MJ, Bird, Magic, Kareem, Or Durant.

Westbrook averages 27/7/7 in the finals.

At the end of the day, the finals are the only games that matter.

LeBron has been average in the finals overall. Not an all time great IMO

Durant 31/6 on 51%. Damn.. that boy good. Respect to Kevin and Russell.

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

ripthekik
12-17-2013, 03:45 AM
:oldlol: @ Bron and Wilt not being on the list.
They belong to another similar group.. ones that have the biggest dropoff from regular season ppg to finals ppg :roll: :roll: :roll:

pauk
12-17-2013, 05:00 AM
B-b-b-b-bu-but Jerry West is 1 of 9 in Finals and Elgin Baylor even worse...

GASOL IS GOAT
01-03-2014, 10:27 PM
So how many 30 point finals games does Bron have?

diamenz
01-03-2014, 10:33 PM
:lol

This n*gga averages 30 in the finals.

On a different stratosphere than Bron. Bron is top ten if we're talking regular season but reg season doesn't mean shit in the grand scheme of things. lulz.

Playing on a stacked team to cheap rings does not get you respect from intelligent bball fans.

LeBron stans want to make everyone believe there is some sort of conspiracy against him or some shit, ... of course! Delusional fans don't want to accept that Bron isn't in the same class as MJ, Bird, Magic, Kareem, Or Durant.

Westbrook averages 27/7/7 in the finals.

At the end of the day, the finals are the only games that matter.

LeBron has been average in the finals overall. Not an all time great IMO

Durant 31/6 on 51%. Damn.. that boy good. Respect to Kevin and Russell.

+rep for someone who sees the big picture.

russwest0
01-03-2014, 10:38 PM
So how many 30 point finals games does Bron have?

I'll give ya ahint it look like a goose egg :lol

riseagainst
01-04-2014, 06:17 AM
this thread is gold.

:lol

PickernRoller
01-04-2014, 09:33 AM
Worst Finals performer of all-time not on the list? Surprise!!!!!!!!!!:oldlol: :oldlol:

SwayDizzle
01-04-2014, 10:00 AM
how dare you talk about memorable moments when lebron highlights come in .xls :facepalm
:lol :lol :lol

LAZERUSS
01-04-2014, 01:17 PM
:oldlol: @ Bron and Wilt not being on the list.

Chamberlain only played in one Final in his "scoring" seasons, and all he could do was put up a 29 ppg 28 rpg .517 series (in a post-season that averaged 106 ppg on a .420 eFG% BTW)...against Russell, whom many regard as the greatest defensive center in the history of the game.) And in that series Wilt had games in which he just annihilated Russell (as well as three 30+ point games...in five games overall.) Hell, Wilt averaged 24 FGAs in that series. Had he taken the 30 FGAs that Hakeem averaged in '95, and in a post-season NBA that had an eFG% of .504 like Hakeem's, he would have averaged 40 ppg!

Wilt also murdered Thurmond in the '67 Finals, with an 18 ppg 29 rpg .560 series. The same Thurmond who never allowed KAJ to shoot better than .486 in their three playoff series, and in fact, held him to two other series of .428 and .405 (while outscoring and outshooting him.)

Chamberlain, only four months after major knee surgery, put up the only 20-20 .600 FG% series in Finals history ( 23 ppg, 24 rpg, and a .625 FG%), which included a must win game of 45-27.

BTW, Wilt was not only never outrebounded in any of his six Finals series, he was outrebounding his opposing starting centers by huge margins in the majority of them. And, he not only was never outshot from the field in any of those six Finals, he was outshooting his opposing starting centers (ALL of whom are in the HOF BTW), by staggering margins.

Of course, had Wilt not been saddled with pathetic rosters early in his career, and had to face the greatest dynasty in major US professional team sports history, he would likely hold many Finals scoring records. For instance, in the '62 EDF's, his team lost a game seven by two points to the Celtics. Russell would go on to put up a 23 ppg, 27 rpg, .543 FG% Finals against the Lakers, which included a game seven of 30 points and 40 rebounds. Think about this...in nine regular season games against the Lakers that season, Wilt averaged 51.5 ppg, which included three games of 60+, and a high game of 78 points and 43 rebounds.

And in the '65 EDF's, Wilt took his 40-40 Sixers to a game seven, one point loss, against Russell's 62-18 Celtics, with a 30 ppg, 31 rpg, .555 FG% series. Russell. Russell, who was just shelled in that series against Wilt, would go on to put up an 18 ppg, 25 rpg, .702 FG% series against the Lakers in the Finals. And in the following season, Chamberlain pummeled Russell again in the EDF's with a 28 ppg, 30 rpg, .509 series. Russell then went on to put up a 24 ppg, 24 rpg, .538 series against LA in the Finals.

Of course, Wilt also won a FMVP at age 35, with a 19 ppg, 23 rpg, .600 series against the Knicks, in which he averaged 7.4 bpg. And in the clinching game five win, he put up a 24 point, 29 rebound (the entire NY team had 39 BTW), 10-14 FG/FGA, 8 block game.

But, yes, lets laugh at Wilt in his Finals....

Psileas
01-04-2014, 01:34 PM
:oldlol: @ Bron and Wilt not being on the list.

http://sportslistoftheday.com/2013/04/21/nba-players-with-the-most-triple-doubles-in-playoff-history/

Dat all-around Gawdbe. :bowdown:

ripthekik
01-04-2014, 01:35 PM
I'll give ya ahint it look like a goose egg :lol
:lol

LAZERUSS
01-04-2014, 01:40 PM
http://sportslistoftheday.com/2013/04/21/nba-players-with-the-most-triple-doubles-in-playoff-history/

Dat all-around Gawdbe. :bowdown:

And only a complete idiot would tell you that Magic could not have scored much more had he so chosen. Hell, he put up a 42 point game in his rookie season in the Finals. And in '87, he averaged 26 ppg, 8 rpg, 13 apg, .541, and .960 against the Celtics. Had he been intent on scoring, and he would easily have averaged over 30 ppg in that series.

BTW, while Bird averaged slightly more ppg in their career H2H's (and on a far worse FG%), it must be pointed out that Magic had the two highest scoring games in those career H2H's. Here again, Magic could have scored much more had he been inclined.

Sakkreth
01-04-2014, 01:47 PM
And only a complete idiot would tell you that Magic could not have scored much more had he so chosen. Hell, he put up a 42 point game in his rookie season in the Finals. And in '87, he averaged 26 ppg, 8 rpg, 13 apg, .541, and .960 against the Celtics. Had he been intent on scoring, and he would easily have averaged over 30 ppg in that series.

BTW, while Bird averaged slightly more ppg in their career H2H's (and on a far worse FG%), it must be pointed out that Magic had the two highest scoring games in those career H2H's. Here again, Magic could have scored much more had he been inclined.

Magic would be my pick for goat if he had all defensive team worthy defense. Offensively he's the goat player for me.

noob cake
01-04-2014, 01:50 PM
Kobe - 13 out of 38 finals game = 34%
Hakeem - 8 out of 17 finals game = 47%

Kobe and Hakeem are usually on 9-11th on all-times list. This proves that Hakeem >>> any Kobe.

Lebron23
01-04-2014, 01:53 PM
Kobe - 13 out of 38 finals game = 34%
Hakeem - 8 out of 17 finals game = 47%

Kobe and Hakeem are usually on 9-11th on all-times list. This proves that Hakeem >>> any Kobe.


Both LBJ and Hakeem are greater than Kobe.

ripthekik
01-04-2014, 01:55 PM
Both LBJ and Hakeem are greater than Kobe.
Both Kobe and Hakeem >>>>> Lebron.

Hakeem rings with 0 all star: 2
Kobe rings with 1 all star: 5
Lebron rings with less than 2 all stars: 0

add that in with how few 30 pt games Lebron has in the finals, and he is one of the worst performers of all time. His finals stats without wade is 22ppg, 38 FG% and 6TO per game :lol:

jlip
01-04-2014, 01:59 PM
http://sportslistoftheday.com/2013/04/21/nba-players-with-the-most-triple-doubles-in-playoff-history/

Dat all-around Gawdbe. :bowdown:

:applause:

HoopsFanNumero1
01-04-2014, 02:01 PM
Kobe - 13 out of 38 finals game = 34%
Hakeem - 8 out of 17 finals game = 47%

Kobe and Hakeem are usually on 9-11th on all-times list. This proves that Hakeem >>> any Kobe.

Are there people out there that really think Kobe's impact to the game exceeded Hakeem's?

Dragonyeuw
01-04-2014, 02:04 PM
Damn Hakeem has scored over 30 in almost half his games, against Parish, Ewing and young Shaq. Not exactly scrub competition....

Dragonyeuw
01-04-2014, 02:08 PM
Are there people out there that really think Kobe's impact to the game exceeded Hakeem's?

All the kiddies, sure. Kobe's career> Hakeem, but in terms of peak for a season I'd take 95 Hakeem over Kobe in a heartbeat. Absolute dominance on both sides of the ball.

Lebron23
01-04-2014, 02:10 PM
Both Kobe and Hakeem >>>>> Lebron.

Hakeem rings with 0 all star: 2
Kobe rings with 1 all star: 5
Lebron rings with less than 2 all stars: 0

add that in with how few 30 pt games Lebron has in the finals, and he is one of the worst performers of all time. His finals stats without wade is 22ppg, 38 FG% and 6TO per game :lol:


Terrible Logic. Shaq in 2000-2002 > Wade and Bosh in 2012 and 2013. LMAO. Kobe played with arguably the 2nd most dominant finals performer of all time.

PS

John Havlicek >> Kobe

8 rings >> 5 rings. In your stupid Kobetarded logic.

IncarceratedBob
01-04-2014, 02:11 PM
Lebron has never scored 30 in the finals? Those are the brightest lights. Even in the 2 finals he lost, why didn't the greatest player on earth put the team on his back and score 30+ points for at least one game and get the victory?

Lebron23
01-04-2014, 02:13 PM
Lebron has never scored 30 in the finals? Those are the brightest lights. Even in the 2 finals he lost, why didn't the greatest player on earth put the team on his back and score 30+ points for at least one game and get the victory?


Are you an idiot?? He did scored 32 points and 37 points (game 6 and 7) against The Spurs in the 2013 NBA Finals.

Lebron23
01-04-2014, 02:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6szZ4hbumT0

37 points against The Spurs in a do or die game.

ripthekik
01-04-2014, 02:15 PM
Are you an idiot?? He did scored 32 points and 37 points * game 6 and 7) against The Spurs in the 2013 NBA Finals.
I'm glad you decided to put that asterisk there.
Does it mean:

* - possible only due to being saved by Ray Allen.

?

Lebron23
01-04-2014, 02:16 PM
I'm glad you decided to put that asterisk there.
Does it mean:

* - possible only due to being saved by Ray Allen.

?

Typographical error

Lebron in Game 7 > Kobe in Game 7

millwad
01-04-2014, 02:18 PM
Chamberlain only played in one Final in his "scoring" seasons, and all he could do was put up a 29 ppg 28 rpg .517 series (in a post-season that averaged 106 ppg on a .420 eFG% BTW)...against Russell, whom many regard as the greatest defensive center in the history of the game.) And in that series Wilt had games in which he just annihilated Russell (as well as three 30+ point games...in five games overall.) Hell, Wilt averaged 24 FGAs in that series. Had he taken the 30 FGAs that Hakeem averaged in '95, and in a post-season NBA that had an eFG% of .504 like Hakeem's, he would have averaged 40 ppg!



Wilt also murdered Thurmond in the '67 Finals, with an 18 ppg 29 rpg .560 series. The same Thurmond who never allowed KAJ to shoot better than .486 in their three playoff series, and in fact, held him to two other series of .428 and .405 (while outscoring and outshooting him.)

Chamberlain, only four months after major knee surgery, put up the only 20-20 .600 FG% series in Finals history ( 23 ppg, 24 rpg, and a .625 FG%), which included a must win game of 45-27.

BTW, Wilt was not only never outrebounded in any of his six Finals series, he was outrebounding his opposing starting centers by huge margins in the majority of them. And, he not only was never outshot from the field in any of those six Finals, he was outshooting his opposing starting centers (ALL of whom are in the HOF BTW), by staggering margins.

Of course, had Wilt not been saddled with pathetic rosters early in his career, and had to face the greatest dynasty in major US professional team sports history, he would likely hold many Finals scoring records. For instance, in the '62 EDF's, his team lost a game seven by two points to the Celtics. Russell would go on to put up a 23 ppg, 27 rpg, .543 FG% Finals against the Lakers, which included a game seven of 30 points and 40 rebounds. Think about this...in nine regular season games against the Lakers that season, Wilt averaged 51.5 ppg, which included three games of 60+, and a high game of 78 points and 43 rebounds.

And in the '65 EDF's, Wilt took his 40-40 Sixers to a game seven, one point loss, against Russell's 62-18 Celtics, with a 30 ppg, 31 rpg, .555 FG% series. Russell. Russell, who was just shelled in that series against Wilt, would go on to put up an 18 ppg, 25 rpg, .702 FG% series against the Lakers in the Finals. And in the following season, Chamberlain pummeled Russell again in the EDF's with a 28 ppg, 30 rpg, .509 series. Russell then went on to put up a 24 ppg, 24 rpg, .538 series against LA in the Finals.

Of course, Wilt also won a FMVP at age 35, with a 19 ppg, 23 rpg, .600 series against the Knicks, in which he averaged 7.4 bpg. And in the clinching game five win, he put up a 24 point, 29 rebound (the entire NY team had 39 BTW), 10-14 FG/FGA, 8 block game.

But, yes, lets laugh at Wilt in his Finals....

Haha, Wilt played 35 games in the finals and he only managed to put up 30 or more 4 times, that is weak and only shows that the high scoring Wilt was no where to be found in the finals.

russwest0
01-04-2014, 02:23 PM
I like how 32 points in the finals is a big feat for LeBron.. :lol

Jordan ****ing AVERAGED 40 in a finals series.

If you've been to the finals 4 times and don't even average 30 PPG once that's pathetic if people are gonna act like you're a top 10 player of all time.

Hell Durant in his first finals appearance averaged 30 PPG and did it on higher efficency than LeBron has ever had in the playoffs. And this was with the refs working against him too.

This is why most people say Durant is likely gonna go down as higher on the alltime lists. Better playoff performer who didn't quit on his team and team up with 2 other all stars to win rings the easy way

jlip
01-04-2014, 02:23 PM
30 point games (Finals)
1)Jerry West -- 31
2)Michael Jordan -- 23
3)Elgin Baylor -- 19
4)Kareem Abdul-Jabbar -- 16
5)Shaquille O'Neal -- 16
6)Bob Pettit -- 14
7)Kobe Bryant -- 13
8)Rick Barry -- 8
9)Hakeem Olajuwon -- 8
10)John Havlicek -- 8
11)Sam Jones -- 8
12)George Mikan -- 7
13)Dwyane Wade -- 7


9 other players with 4-5.

Translation:
I stopped right here because Lebron might have been next. I didn't want to include his name because he has 5 games with 30 or more points, and that wouldn't help my agenda.

francesco totti
01-04-2014, 02:41 PM
I think lebron done many triple double in finals though.
Last year lebron had 3 games above 30+ vs spurs, vs okc he had 2..

sooner or later he will get higher in that list as well.

hateraid
01-04-2014, 02:48 PM
This thread is hilarious!

OP posts some stats and conclusions are drawn all over the place! :roll:

To me all this thread suggests is great scorers will be higher on this list if they made more finals, really not a measure of greatness, it's a measure of scoring

pauk
01-04-2014, 02:59 PM
Where is Lebron? At #14.... and every other category....... where all other much more complete/versatile players are... where only him, Larry Bird & Magic Johnson are...

pauk
01-04-2014, 03:04 PM
Translation:
I stopped right here because Lebron might have been next. I didn't want to include his name because he has 5 games with 30 or more points, and that wouldn't help my agenda.

Exactly :oldlol:

DaSeba5
01-04-2014, 03:10 PM
Agendas. Agendas everywhere.

Legends66NBA7
01-04-2014, 03:40 PM
really not a measure of greatness, it's a measure of scoring

The measure of scoring is a part of the measure of greatness. All those scorers were also all-time great players too.

LAZERUSS
01-04-2014, 04:36 PM
Haha, Wilt played 35 games in the finals and he only managed to put up 30 or more 4 times, that is weak and only shows that the high scoring Wilt was no where to be found in the finals.

The "high-scoring" Wilt only played in ONE Final. And he absolutely trashed Russell in it with a 29 ppg, 28 rpg, .517 series (again, in a post-season NBA that shot .420 overall.) Furthermore, had he taken 30 FGAs in that series, instead of "only" 24, and in a post-season NBA that shot an eFG% of .504, instead of only .420, like Hakeem did in '95, and his numbers would have translated to 40 ppg.

Oh, and in that '64 Finals, Chamberlain scored 30+ points in three of the five games, or 60% of the time...all on only 24 FGAs per game in the series (and again, against Russell, in what is widely regarded as his greatest defensive season.)

However, a "scoring" Wilt, in his first 52 playoff games, averaged 32.8 ppg, 26.4 rpg, and shot .505 from the field (and in post-seasons in which the NBA shot about .425 from the field), and 30 of those 52 games were against Russell. Hell, in his first 67 playoff games, he AVERAGED 30.4 ppg, 27.0 rpg, 4.5 apg, probably 8+ bpg, and shot .515 from the field (in NBA post-seasons that shot about .425 in that span.) Included were FOUR games of 50+, including one against Russell, and three of which came in "must-win" games. Oh, and he also had another "must-win" game against Russell of 46 points (and 34 rebounds.) And in those 67 playoff games, he faced Russell 35 times (and Thurmond in six.)

Find me another player in NBA history to post a 30-27-5-8 .515 SERIES...much less one who did it in his his first 67 games...COMBINED. You would probably be hard-pressed to find a player who ever accomplished all of that in one playoff GAME, much less against HOF players who are generally regarded as the greatest defensive centers in NBA history.

So much for the "weak" crap...

TheMarkMadsen
01-04-2014, 06:10 PM
Translation:
I stopped right here because Lebron might have been next. I didn't want to include his name because he has 5 games with 30 or more points, and that wouldn't help my agenda.


translation: There are almost 10 other ****ing players with 4-5 30pt games in the finals and since there were a few players with 7, and none with 6, then 7 became the cut off

If i was really tryin to do them like that i would have listed the next 10 players like this..

Iverson - 4 30pt games in 1 finals appearance

Lebron - 4 30pt games in 5 finals appearances

but I didn't, so shut your Jlip and hop off my dick

Deuce Bigalow
01-04-2014, 06:21 PM
The "high-scoring" Wilt only played in ONE Final. And he absolutely trashed Russell in it with a 29 ppg, 28 rpg, .517 series (again, in a post-season NBA that shot .420 overall.) Furthermore, had he taken 30 FGAs in that series, instead of "only" 24, and in a post-season NBA that shot an eFG% of .504, instead of only .420, like Hakeem did in '95, and his numbers would have translated to 40 ppg.

Oh, and in that '64 Finals, Chamberlain scored 30+ points in three of the five games, or 60% of the time...all on only 24 FGAs per game in the series (and again, against Russell, in what is widely regarded as his greatest defensive season.)

However, a "scoring" Wilt, in his first 52 playoff games, averaged 32.8 ppg, 26.4 rpg, and shot .505 from the field (and in post-seasons in which the NBA shot about .425 from the field), and 30 of those 52 games were against Russell. Hell, in his first 67 playoff games, he AVERAGED 30.4 ppg, 27.0 rpg, 4.5 apg, probably 8+ bpg, and shot .515 from the field (in NBA post-seasons that shot about .425 in that span.) Included were FOUR games of 50+, including one against Russell, and three of which came in "must-win" games. Oh, and he also had another "must-win" game against Russell of 46 points (and 34 rebounds.) And in those 67 playoff games, he faced Russell 35 times (and Thurmond in six.)

Find me another player in NBA history to post a 30-27-5-8 .515 SERIES...much less one who did it in his his first 67 games...COMBINED. You would probably be hard-pressed to find a player who ever accomplished all of that in one playoff GAME, much less against HOF players who are generally regarded as the greatest defensive centers in NBA history.

So much for the "weak" crap...
Regular season
30.1 ppg, 51.1 ft%

Playoffs
22.5 ppg, 45.0 ft%

Finals
18.6 ppg, 37.5 ft%

So much for "clutch"...

LAZERUSS
01-04-2014, 06:30 PM
Regular season
30.1 ppg, 51.1 ft%

Playoffs
22.5 ppg, 45.0 ft%

Finals
18.6 ppg, 37.5 ft%

So much for "clutch"...

One more time...


The "high-scoring" Wilt only played in ONE Final. And he absolutely trashed Russell in it with a 29 ppg, 28 rpg, .517 series (again, in a post-season NBA that shot .420 overall.) Furthermore, had he taken 30 FGAs in that series, instead of "only" 24, and in a post-season NBA that shot an eFG% of .504, instead of only .420, like Hakeem did in '95, and his numbers would have translated to 40 ppg.

Oh, and in that '64 Finals, Chamberlain scored 30+ points in three of the five games, or 60% of the time...all on only 24 FGAs per game in the series (and again, against Russell, in what is widely regarded as his greatest defensive season.)

However, a "scoring" Wilt, in his first 52 playoff games, averaged 32.8 ppg, 26.4 rpg, and shot .505 from the field (and in post-seasons in which the NBA shot about .425 from the field), and 30 of those 52 games were against Russell. Hell, in his first 67 playoff games, he AVERAGED 30.4 ppg, 27.0 rpg, 4.5 apg, probably 8+ bpg, and shot .515 from the field (in NBA post-seasons that shot about .425 in that span.) Included were FOUR games of 50+, including one against Russell, and three of which came in "must-win" games. Oh, and he also had another "must-win" game against Russell of 46 points (and 34 rebounds.) And in those 67 playoff games, he faced Russell 35 times (and Thurmond in six.)

Find me another player in NBA history to post a 30-27-5-8 .515 SERIES...much less one who did it in his his first 67 games...COMBINED. You would probably be hard-pressed to find a player who ever accomplished all of that in one playoff GAME, much less against HOF players who are generally regarded as the greatest defensive centers in NBA history.

Deuce Bigalow
01-04-2014, 06:41 PM
One more time...
Wilt two timer

coin24
01-04-2014, 06:48 PM
translation: There are almost 10 other ****ing players with 4-5 30pt games in the finals and since there were a few players with 7, and none with 6, then 7 became the cut off

If i was really tryin to do them like that i would have listed the next 10 players like this..

Iverson - 4 30pt games in 1 finals appearance

Lebron - 4 30pt games in 5 finals appearances

but I didn't, so shut your Jlip and hop off my dick

AI:bowdown:

sportjames23
01-04-2014, 09:09 PM
That's funny, I've never seen this stat on ESPN before:oldlol:


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

sportjames23
01-04-2014, 09:16 PM
It's not like Jordan lost 3 times in the first round while Lebron has never lost in the first round before :rolleyes:


While MJ never missed the playoffs in his prime. :no:

jlip
01-04-2014, 09:33 PM
translation: There are almost 10 other ****ing players with 4-5 30pt games in the finals and since there were a few players with 7, and none with 6, then 7 became the cut off

If i was really tryin to do them like that i would have listed the next 10 players like this..

Iverson - 4 30pt games in 1 finals appearance

Lebron - 4 30pt games in 5 finals appearances

but I didn't, so shut your Jlip and hop off my dick

1) Lebron has been to 4 Finals not 5.
2007, 2011, 2012, 2013

2) Lebron has 5 30pt games in the Finals not 4.
30pts- Game 1 of 2012 NBA Finals (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201206120OKC.html)
32pts- Game 2 of 2012 NBA Finals (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201206140OKC.html)
33pts- Game 4 of 2013 NBA Finals (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201306130SAS.html)
32pts- Game 6 of 2013 NBA Finals (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201306180MIA.html)
37pts- Game 7 of 2013 NBA Finals (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201306200MIA.html)


Your combination of arrogance and ignorance is shameful. I kind of feel sorry for you.