Magic Johnson Chokes Away the 1984 NBA Finals

[Lebron23]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ1bd2g3p1Y

Tragic Johnson.

[SpecialQue]

Still better than your ass-buddy Lebron.

[jlip]

Lebron23, please stop.

[Black and White]

:facepalm How do you have a full green bar

[Lebron23]

Still better than your ass-buddy Lebron.


Why are you so mad?? I actually like Magic Johnson. People are still posting Lebron's 2011 Finals gif in every thread. He already won back to back NBA Finals MVP. I am just pointing out that even some of the best players of all time crumbled in the biggest stage. That was a totally unclutch performance from one of the clutchest player of all time

[russwest0]

:facepalm How do you have a full green bar

Wondering the same thing myself

[Black and White]

Why are you so mad?? I actually like Magic Johnson. People are still posting Lebron's 2011 Finals gif in every thread. He already won back to back NBA Finals MVP. I am just pointing out that even some of the best players of all time crumbled in the biggest stage. That was a totally unclutch performance from one of the clutchest player of all time

No superstar crumbled as bad as LeBron did.

[kurple]

how does he have more than 40k posts is the better question

[CelticBaller]

Tragic Johnson.
Yeah, sucks that he caught a life threatening disease, which shorten his career. At least he has money, and a gay son.

[moe94]

Why are you people catching feelings? Is Magic above being criticized?

[fpliii]

Agendas ruin this board, SMFH.


Why are you people catching feelings? Is Magic above being criticized?

Certainly not, but it's all about intent.

[Lebron23]

No superstar crumbled as bad as LeBron did.

Well, You are a Kobestan. Kobe had plenty of sub 43 FG% shooting than Lebron in the NBA Finals.

[kurple]

Agendas ruin this board, SMFH.
agreed. big time

[Eric Cartman]

Magic chocked against the stacked Celtics.

Lebron chocked against the Dirk led Mavs with Terry shitting on him.

[kurple]

Well, You are a Kobestan. Kobe had plenty of sub 43 FG% than Lebron in the NBA Finals.
and here we go

[Black and White]

Why are you people catching feelings? Is Magic above being criticized?

Because its a blatant LeBron agenda thread derived from the other thread he made

[moe94]

how does he have more than 40k posts is the better question

People on IGN push 200k.:coleman:

[Black and White]

Well, You are a Kobestan. Kobe had plenty of sub 43 FG% than Lebron in the NBA Finals.

I'm not a Kobe stan, im a Celtics fan you tool :facepalm

[kurple]

People on IGN push 200k.:coleman:
is that supposed to be impressive or tragic?

[cos88]

Still better than your ass-buddy Lebron.

talks about ass budy - has richard gayfferson at his avy :roll: :roll: :roll:

[moe94]

is that supposed to be impressive or tragic?

However you want to see it. :confusedshrug:

[Lebron23]

talks about ass budy - has richard gayfferson at his avy :roll: :roll: :roll:

and Magic is/was bisexual.

[hitmanyr2k]

Magic chocked against the stacked Celtics.

Lebron chocked against the Dirk led Mavs with Terry shitting on him.

Never fails to make me :oldlol:

[moe94]

talks about ass budy - has richard gayfferson at his avy :roll: :roll: :roll:

http://replygif.net/i/214.gif

Literally laughed.

[CelticBaller]

talks about ass budy - has richard gayfferson at his avy :roll: :roll: :roll:
Que is the manliest man around here :no:

[kurple]

However you want to see it. :confusedshrug:
tragic. very tragic

unless they somehow make money off it

[Eric Cartman]

Never fails to make me :oldlol:

Damn well that was a fail :lol

[Lebron23]

However you want to see it. :confusedshrug:

http://cdn.tss.uproxx.com/TSS/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Lebron-and-Magic-Laughing.gif

[moe94]

tragic. very tragic

unless they somehow make money off it

If 4chan kept a track, I bet you there are a bunch of dudes near or above 1 million.

[plowking]

No superstar crumbled as bad as LeBron did.

Slowly becoming one of the worst posters on the board.

[97 bulls]

Why do Magic and Bird always get passee for their failures? All great players have had stinkers in their careers.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

That uploader is the biggest Larry Bird dickrider I've ever met online :lol . All he does is prop up Bird and post videos of other players when they're playing their worst.

[SpecialQue]

Why do Magic and Bird always get passee for their failures? All great players have had stinkers in their careers.

Magic was roundly criticized for that rancid performance of his. He wasn't a perfect player, but what annoys me is that OP created this garbage thread to prop up Lebron, since his last thread comparing finals appearances by Magic and Bird wasn't doing it's job of proving his theory that Lebron is better than both.

[Black and White]

Slowly becoming one of the worst posters on the board.

How??? Even a LeBron fan said this in another thread.

[Nash]

some serious lebron obsession going on ob ish

[SpecialQue]

some serious lebron obsession going on ob ish

You're just annoyed that someone keeps bumping your old threads, Pauk.

[plowking]

You're just annoyed that someone keeps bumping your old threads, Pauk.

Oooo kill em'.

[Black and White]

You're just annoyed that someone keeps bumping your old threads, Pauk.

:roll:

[CelticBaller]

some serious lebron obsession going on ob ish
You're like one of his biggest dickridder

[LAZERUSS]

Yep...Tragic Johnson.

And what a pathetic series it was too.

He LED the Lakers in rebounding.
He averaged 18.1 ppg.
He handed out 13.6 apg
And he shot .560 from the field. (BTW, Bird shot .488 and Kareem shot .481.)

And, of course, how about Worthy? Instead of handing the ball to Magic in game two, with LA leading and having the ball, he threw a cross-court pass that was picked off and led to a tying FG. He also missed a late FT in the game four loss, in which the Lakers would go on to lose in OT (again.)

So, let's heap some blame on Worthy, too. All he did in that series was average 22.1 ppg on a .638 FG%.

Tragic Johnson... I wonder how many FMVP's have had a series as great as Tragic did in '84?

[longtime lurker]

Damn that's pretty bad, OP is right there's no comparison to Lebron. Lebron would actually have to show up for the finals for him to be compared to Magic's performance.

[moe94]

You're just annoyed that someone keeps bumping your old threads, Pauk.
:eek:

[retaxis]

How??? Even a LeBron fan said this in another thread.
It was a crumble but its tough playing 3v5 every night in 2011. Even Mark Cuban said Lebron made the right plays, his team mates just couldn't finish. Well no sh1t..when you have Mike Bibby as your starting pointguard and Joel Anthony as your starting centre who can't make shots or catch the ball your in a whole lot of sh1t. 3v5 every night was rough and i was honestly surprised they even made it to the finals that year. When they upgraded Mike Bibby and began starting Mario Chalmers who was 10x the PG old Bibby was and signed free agent shane battier (coming off his prime), and Haslem fully recovered from his injuries results? Miami played 5v5 and back to back championships. Outside of the big 3 there was no one else that first year who deserved to be in the NBA on Miami. They needed, like all championship need, good/great role players/veterans e.g. in 2011 Veterans such as Jason Kidd, Stevenson, Terry, Marion and Chandler all played very well and contributed significantly to the team when it counted the most.

[Black and White]

It was a crumble but its tough playing 3v5 every night in 2011. Even Mark Cuban said Lebron made the right plays, his team mates just couldn't finish. Well no sh1t..when you have Mike Bibby as your starting pointguard and Joel Anthony as your starting centre who can't make shots or catch the ball your in a whole lot of sh1t. 3v5 every night was rough and i was honestly surprised they even made it to the finals that year. When they upgraded Mike Bibby and began starting Mario Chalmers who was 10x the PG old Bibby was and signed free agent shane battier (coming off his prime), and Haslem fully recovered from his injuries results? Miami played 5v5 and back to back championships. Outside of the big 3 there was no one else that first year who deserved to be in the NBA on Miami. They needed, like all championship need, good/great role players/veterans e.g. in 2011 Veterans such as Jason Kidd, Stevenson, Terry, Marion and Chandler all played very well and contributed significantly to the team when it counted the most.

:biggums: They were heavily favoured to win that series, you do realise that Wade played so well right??? Now i understand what you mean about people not making their shots etc because alot of the time LeBron did put them in situations to hit them however he wasn't aggressive enough and did not demand the ball enough, once he stopped deffering to Wade and became the primary offensive player, thats when they won, look at the difference in FGA between LeBron and Dirk that series in the 4th quarter.

[Lebron23]

Why do Magic and Bird always get passee for their failures? All great players have had stinkers in their careers.


Golden NBA Era. Magic and Bird made the NBA a very popular sports.

[Solefade]

Agendas ruin this board, SMFH.






yup

[Solefade]

Magic was roundly criticized for that rancid performance of his. He wasn't a perfect player, but what annoys me is that OP created this garbage thread to prop up Lebron, since his last thread comparing finals appearances by Magic and Bird wasn't doing it's job of proving his theory that Lebron is better than both.


But doesn't everyone else on ISH create threads to discredit LeBron? Where are you in those threads?

[SpecialQue]

But doesn't everyone else on ISH create threads to discredit LeBron? Where are you in those threads?

I tend to stay out of those threads because Lebron's already proven himself to be a great player and those threads are just back-and-forth bullshit where people make the same arguments over and over. Magic's my all-time favorite basketball player, so of course I'm going to go in on OP for creating this agenda thread. There was ZERO reason for him to create this thread except for a previous thread of his where he was trying to prop Lebron up over Magic and Bird, which I think is a bunch of shit.

[Lebron23]

No agenda. I actually like Magic Johnson and Larry Bird as players.

[eliteballer]

Magic Johnson 1984 NBA Finals:

18 ppg, 7.7 rpg, 13.6 apg, 2.0 stl, 1.0 blk 56 FG%

What were lebrons 2011 finals stats again?

[gts]

Thread backfire :lol

[Stringer Bell]

Magic put up great numbers and played very well for most of the series, but had bad screw ups in games 2 and 4. But the blame shouldn't all be put on him. Worthy deserved more of the blame in game 2, and Magic more so in game 4. And Magic and Worthy actually put up terrific stats in both games 2 and 4, they just ****ed up in key moments.

The Lakers shouldn't have even been in that situation late in game 2. Worthy threw that awful pass that Henderson stole to tie the game. Then Magic let the clock run out.

Game 4 was worse for Magic, he had the turnover and the missed FTs. Worthy also missed a key FT too.

Here's the box scores. It must be a mistake on Worthy in game 4 because he missed a FT in OT.

http://webuns.chez-alice.fr/finals/1984.htm

[Stringer Bell]

Yep...Tragic Johnson.

And what a pathetic series it was too.

He LED the Lakers in rebounding.
He averaged 18.1 ppg.
He handed out 13.6 apg
And he shot .560 from the field. (BTW, Bird shot .488 and Kareem shot .481.)

And, of course, how about Worthy? Instead of handing the ball to Magic in game two, with LA leading and having the ball, he threw a cross-court pass that was picked off and led to a tying FG. He also missed a late FT in the game four loss, in which the Lakers would go on to lose in OT (again.)

So, let's heap some blame on Worthy, too. All he did in that series was average 22.1 ppg on a .638 FG%.

Tragic Johnson... I wonder how many FMVP's have had a series as great as Tragic did in '84?

Didn't see this post at first, but I agree.

[BlackVVaves]

Agendas ruin this board, SMFH.


This X 5 Trillion

[BlackVVaves]

Yep...Tragic Johnson.

And what a pathetic series it was too.

He LED the Lakers in rebounding.
He averaged 18.1 ppg.
He handed out 13.6 apg
And he shot .560 from the field. (BTW, Bird shot .488 and Kareem shot .481.)

And, of course, how about Worthy? Instead of handing the ball to Magic in game two, with LA leading and having the ball, he threw a cross-court pass that was picked off and led to a tying FG. He also missed a late FT in the game four loss, in which the Lakers would go on to lose in OT (again.)

So, let's heap some blame on Worthy, too. All he did in that series was average 22.1 ppg on a .638 FG%.

Tragic Johnson... I wonder how many FMVP's have had a series as great as Tragic did in '84?

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[diamenz]

Golden NBA Era. Magic and Bird made the NBA a very popular sports.

ya guys - it made the nba a very popular sports. lebrons james is the bestest.

[97 bulls]

Magic was roundly criticized for that rancid performance of his. He wasn't a perfect player, but what annoys me is that OP created this garbage thread to prop up Lebron, since his last thread comparing finals appearances by Magic and Bird wasn't doing it's job of proving his theory that Lebron is better than both.
Magic was criticized greatly. BACK THEN. But posters today act as if that never happened. The same for Bird. Those two seem to be on untouchable ground. And I just dont understandw why. There were time when their teams had to carry them just like every other player

And mentioning their failures (which both had and many) is looked at as blasphemy.

[97 bulls]

Yep...Tragic Johnson.

And what a pathetic series it was too.

He LED the Lakers in rebounding.
He averaged 18.1 ppg.
He handed out 13.6 apg
And he shot .560 from the field. (BTW, Bird shot .488 and Kareem shot .481.)

And, of course, how about Worthy? Instead of handing the ball to Magic in game two, with LA leading and having the ball, he threw a cross-court pass that was picked off and led to a tying FG. He also missed a late FT in the game four loss, in which the Lakers would go on to lose in OT (again.)

So, let's heap some blame on Worthy, too. All he did in that series was average 22.1 ppg on a .638 FG%.

Tragic Johnson... I wonder how many FMVP's have had a series as great as Tragic did in '84?
What does that matter? I thought the only important aspect of basketball was the "clutch gene".

[LAZERUSS]

What does that matter? I thought the only important aspect of basketball was the "clutch gene".

I guess. If a player dominates a game for 46 minutes, and misses a key shot in the waning seconds, he must be a "choker."

And then there is the opposite side. Take John Elway for instance. Most everyone here has heard, read, or seen footage of "The Drive." However, very few probably realize that he was simply awful in the first 55 minutes of that game (14-27 102 yards.) And BTW, "the Drive" took 5 minutes, and only TIED the game.

To be honest, Elway was actually a poor post-season QB. Even in his first SB win, which came in his second-to-last season, he had a horrible QB rating. If it had not been for Terrell Davis (and the O-line), Elway would have had yet another SB "flop-job." It was so bad earlier in his career, that the Simpsons even had a SB show in which the announcer said something like..

"And Elway has led Denver on a brilliant 98 yard TD drive. With the extra point, it is Denver 7, ...and the 49ers...55."

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Yep...Tragic Johnson.

And what a pathetic series it was too.

He LED the Lakers in rebounding.
He averaged 18.1 ppg.
He handed out 13.6 apg
And he shot .560 from the field. (BTW, Bird shot .488 and Kareem shot .481.)

And, of course, how about Worthy? Instead of handing the ball to Magic in game two, with LA leading and having the ball, he threw a cross-court pass that was picked off and led to a tying FG. He also missed a late FT in the game four loss, in which the Lakers would go on to lose in OT (again.)

So, let's heap some blame on Worthy, too. All he did in that series was average 22.1 ppg on a .638 FG%.

Tragic Johnson... I wonder how many FMVP's have had a series as great as Tragic did in '84?

Good post, JL. :oldlol: at this "choke" BS and ignoring everything but PPG output.

[97 bulls]

I guess. If a player dominates a game for 46 minutes, and misses a key shot in the waning seconds, he must be a "choker."

And then there is the opposite side. Take John Elway for instance. Most everyone here has heard, read, or seen footage of "The Drive." However, very few probably realize that he was simply awful in the first 55 minutes of that game (14-27 102 yards.) And BTW, "the Drive" took 5 minutes, and only TIED the game.

To be honest, Elway was actually a poor post-season QB. Even in his first SB win, which came in his second-to-last season, he had a horrible QB rating. If it had not been for Terrell Davis (and the O-line), Elway would have had yet another SB "flop-job." It was so bad earlier in his career, that the Simpsons even had a SB show in which the announcer said something like..

"And Elway has led Denver on a brilliant 98 yard TD drive. With the extra point, it is Denver 7, ...and the 49ers...55."
You couldn't be righter. I was just showing hiw silly it is to derive a players worth based on what he did in the last few seconds of one or two games. The Lakers wouldn't have even been there if it wasn't for Magic and Worthy

[tmacattack33]

Wow. From what I saw he:

A) dribbled the clock down in the game ending and deciding possession of game 2

B) turned the ball over on one of the final possessions and in game 4...and then missed BOTH FT's with like 10 seconds left...and then Bird nailed the game winner right over his face at the buzzer or with a few seconds left

C) turned the ball over in maybe the most important possession of game 7


LOL at B specifically. That sh*t woulda been all over Skip Bayless and Stephen A's show, Sportsnation, and PTI had it happened today...and of course it'd be all over youtube and twitter.

That sh*t was worse than Nick Anderson collapsing in the 95 Finals vs Houston.

Of course this doesn't mean his whole series was bad though...it mighta been good overall. But the "clutch" fans woulda been eating him alive.

[NumberSix]

Still better than your ass-buddy Lebron.
:kobe:

[Micku]

Magic was criticized greatly. BACK THEN. But posters today act as if that never happened. The same for Bird. Those two seem to be on untouchable ground. And I just dont understandw why. There were time when their teams had to carry them just like every other player

And mentioning their failures (which both had and many) is looked at as blasphemy.
True.

But with the case for Magic, he hardly had any failures. I mean he truly only played for 11 seasons consistently, and been in 9 Finals. His last finals was the year he retired for the first time. His career is pretty much is one of the best you can have as an NBA player.

With that said, yeah he didn't win every single time and got upset'd. But his success clearly outweighs the failures unless not winning in the finals itself is a failure. It depends on the context.

[LAZERUSS]

Of course, there was also Magic's '87 Finals, which was among the greatest ever...

He led BOTH teams in scoring at 26.2 ppg.

He led LA in rebounding at 8.0 rpg (Bird was high man in the series at 10.0 rpg.)

He led BOTH teams in spg, at 2.3 spg.

He easily led BOTH teams in apg at 13.0 apg.

He shot .541 from the field and .960 from the line.

And in the pivotal game four win in Boston, he not only hit the game-winner, he led both teams in scoring with 29 points.

[BlackVVaves]

Thread backfire-esque.

[Miller for 3]

:facepalm How do you have a full green bar

He has multiple accounts to rep himself.

Ultimate backfire thread. Magic Johnson's biggest choke job finals is still more efficient than any of Lebron's

[GASOL IS GOAT]

how does he have more than 40k posts is the better question
He has no life :confusedshrug:

[97 bulls]

True.

But with the case for Magic, he hardly had any failures. I mean he truly only played for 11 seasons consistently, and been in 9 Finals. His last finals was the year he retired for the first time. His career is pretty much is one of the best you can have as an NBA player.

With that said, yeah he didn't win every single time and got upset'd. But his success clearly outweighs the failures unless not winning in the finals itself is a failure. It depends on the context.
He was on the best team in the league. Playing in the worst conference the league has ever seen. Barring injury, his teams should've represented the West every year.

But he was a great player

[Micku]

He was on the best team in the league. Playing in the worst conference the league has ever seen. Barring injury, his teams should've represented the West every year.

But he was a great player

I don't think that it was the worst conference the league has ever seen prior the 80s or after imo. Mainly because the Lakers was in there and was always consistent. The Lakers was so stacked compared to the rest of the teams in the west that every time they lose its an upset a team in the west its an upset and the east had more competition. I remember watching a game and the commentators complained about how the Lakers sometimes slack off and don't play to their talent at times. Similar to how the Lakers of 08-10 played or the Heat. Not the 87 Lakers tho.

But yeah, he was on a stacked team. But still it didn't stop the success. I guess it depends on how much you consider the quality of his success and whatever it was as impressive as others.

[Stringer Bell]

I guess. If a player dominates a game for 46 minutes, and misses a key shot in the waning seconds, he must be a "choker."

And then there is the opposite side. Take John Elway for instance. Most everyone here has heard, read, or seen footage of "The Drive." However, very few probably realize that he was simply awful in the first 55 minutes of that game (14-27 102 yards.) And BTW, "the Drive" took 5 minutes, and only TIED the game.

To be honest, Elway was actually a poor post-season QB. Even in his first SB win, which came in his second-to-last season, he had a horrible QB rating. If it had not been for Terrell Davis (and the O-line), Elway would have had yet another SB "flop-job." It was so bad earlier in his career, that the Simpsons even had a SB show in which the announcer said something like..

"And Elway has led Denver on a brilliant 98 yard TD drive. With the extra point, it is Denver 7, ...and the 49ers...55."

Yeah, I agree. Everyone remembers Elway's "helicopter" play and the "this one is for John" quote. He didn't play well in that win and he threw what could have been a costly INT when they were deep in GB territory.

He did play well in his last game though, the SB against Atlanta. Played good in one SB, okay in another (NY), below average in the Green Bay one, and terrible against SF and Washington.

Great player though. I loved the way he made something out of broken plays.

[riseagainst]

still a better player than Lebron ever was.

[Lebron23]

He has no life :confusedshrug:


Well. I have my own food cart business (actually have 4 carts already), play basketball every weekend, have my own car, have my own apartment, works as a Supervisor at Gasoline station (salary is not that big that's why i started a good cart business, but free internet connection with my net book),and have my own house at age 26

[ripthekik]

Well. I have my own food cart business (actually have 4 carts already), play basketball every weekend, have my own car, have my own apartment, works as a Supervisor at Gasoline station (salary is not that big that's why i started a good cart business, but free internet connection with my net book),and have my own house at age 26
food cart? Like the local food stall? Do you sell the food yourself?

[sportjames23]

still a better player than Lebron ever was.

Elway or Magic?

[Magic 32]

Well. I have my own food cart business (actually have 4 carts already), play basketball every weekend, have my own car, have my own apartment, works as a Supervisor at Gasoline station (salary is not that big that's why i started a good cart business, but free internet connection with my net book),and have my own house at age 26

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/naughty_6d144b_1428101.jpg

[CelticBaller]

Well. I have my own food cart business (actually have 4 carts already), play basketball every weekend, have my own car, have my own apartment, works as a Supervisor at Gasoline station (salary is not that big that's why i started a good cart business, but free internet connection with my net book),and have my own house at age 26
If this is true good shit :applause: