NBA is rigged Video-Funny and interesting

[poido123]

Not wanting to comment on it, since being a conspiracy theorist gets thrown around whenever you bring up 'rigged' and 'NBA', so I'll just let you guys enjoy the video :cheers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFsqtgjVw_4

[russwest0]

Anyone who doesn't believe the NBA hasn't been rigged is a complete ****ing moron ignoring a ridiculous amount of overwhelming evidence showing that it was rigged.

I hate how Tim Donaghy is the black sheep in all of this. He didn't even ****ing officiate the 2002 WCF, the league didn't even punish any of those officials. He didn't officiate in the 2006 Finals either. Nope, he's the problem though. Nevermind a fcking ridiculous amount of phone calls placed between him and current official Scott Foster (who officiated in the Finals last year) minutes before each officiated a game.

Nevermind Joey Crawford getting out of hand ejecting Duncan for laughing, challenging him to a fight, and then being allowed to officiate game 6 in the NBA Finals last year.

Oh, and the draft lottery? Funny how the Timberwolves have had a 99% chance of moving up in draft position by now yet have never done so. However the Bulls win the Lottery to draft Chicago native Derrick Rose despite only having a 1% chance. Ah yes, lets keep it behind closed doors though. Not like the last live lottery in 1985 was rigged (with actual proof) forcing them to move it to behind closed doors.

Wake the **** up NBA fans.

[moe94]

Wade took like 20 steps, at least.

[poido123]

Wade took like 20 steps, at least.

I actually enjoyed Crawford tossing out Duncan on the bench for smiling? and of course Sheed for 'intimidating' the ref with a glare :lol

[Tmuston Beltics]

Anyone who doesn't believe the NBA hasn't been rigged is a complete ****ing moron ignoring a ridiculous amount of overwhelming evidence showing that it was rigged.

I hate how Tim Donaghy is the black sheep in all of this. He didn't even ****ing officiate the 2002 WCF, the league didn't even punish any of those officials. He didn't officiate in the 2006 Finals either. Nope, he's the problem though. Nevermind a fcking ridiculous amount of phone calls placed between him and current official Scott Foster (who officiated in the Finals last year) minutes before each officiated a game.

Nevermind Joey Crawford getting out of hand ejecting Duncan for laughing, challenging him to a fight, and then being allowed to officiate game 6 in the NBA Finals last year.

Oh, and the draft lottery? Funny how the Timberwolves have had a 99% chance of moving up in draft position by now yet have never done so. However the Bulls win the Lottery to draft Chicago native Derrick Rose despite only having a 1% chance. Ah yes, lets keep it behind closed doors though. Not like the last live lottery in 1985 was rigged (with actual proof) forcing them to move it to behind closed doors.

Wake the **** up NBA fans.

Good post. Truth hurts.

[poido123]

Anyone who doesn't believe the NBA hasn't been rigged is a complete ****ing moron ignoring a ridiculous amount of overwhelming evidence showing that it was rigged.

I hate how Tim Donaghy is the black sheep in all of this. He didn't even ****ing officiate the 2002 WCF, the league didn't even punish any of those officials. He didn't officiate in the 2006 Finals either. Nope, he's the problem though. Nevermind a fcking ridiculous amount of phone calls placed between him and current official Scott Foster (who officiated in the Finals last year) minutes before each officiated a game.

Nevermind Joey Crawford getting out of hand ejecting Duncan for laughing, challenging him to a fight, and then being allowed to officiate game 6 in the NBA Finals last year.

Oh, and the draft lottery? Funny how the Timberwolves have had a 99% chance of moving up in draft position by now yet have never done so. However the Bulls win the Lottery to draft Chicago native Derrick Rose despite only having a 1% chance. Ah yes, lets keep it behind closed doors though. Not like the last live lottery in 1985 was rigged (with actual proof) forcing them to move it to behind closed doors.

Wake the **** up NBA fans.


For someone who posts with good English and has a well thought out argument or post, you really shouldn't have all the negs you do...I'm guessing you ruffled the feathers of just about every Heat fan and negged you accordingly :lol

[moe94]

For someone who posts with good English and has a well thought out argument or post, you really shouldn't have all the negs you do...I'm guessing you ruffled the feathers of just about every Heat fan and negged you accordingly :lol

No, he's a massive troll who rarely says anything of note. He has his moments and is proving that he feigns retardation in an attempt to rustle jimmies.

[And1AllDay]

I can't deduce from the video that the NBA is rigged. Bad calls are going to happen, period.

But, in regard to the draft...Well...Let's just say a few results are awfully fishy; and yes I know about Patrick Ewing going to the New York Knicks scandal too.

[russwest0]

I'll just make some more points in the form of bulletin notes further proving my case

D-Wade getting more FT's than entire Mavs team for some games in 2006 Finals
Heat playoff record with Dan Crawford officiating = 16-4, Mavs playoff record with Dan Crawford officiating = 2-16
Charles Barkley filmed '93 Finals promos before his team was even set to be in them, and then in game 7 of the WCF his Suns got 70 FT's to the Sonics 30 FT's.
In 2011 NBA.com accidentally uploaded "Beat the Heat" OKC shirts before the Heat were even in the Finals. They also had articles basically begging for a LBJ/KD matchup.
The media constantly covers up for the officials when they can. How many times have you seen Dan/Joey Crawford make a ****ing putrid call and then the commentators say, "Well, Joey Crawford is one of the very best in the business, he just missed one there." Look back at ESPN after the 2012 Finals, they brought in outside guys to provide basketball insight and anytime those guys commented on the bias Miami was receiving from the officials the ESPN reporter would just say "Well sure the Heat got some calls here and there but it was just the Kings time."
The massive amount of crazy statistical odds being defied in the draft lottery
The 1985 draft lottery being rigged with video proof
Two NBA teams having like half of the NBA's championships
There is a pool of like 6-7 teams where at least one of those teams has been present in every NBA finals
They constantly extend series for more revenue. With LA vs OKC two years ago Joey Crawford reffed a 72 FTA game with LA getting like 50 of those whistles. It was just to make it a 5 game series for more $$$
The way the league shamelessly dragged LA into the playoffs last year. LA vs GS was the worst.


The list goes on and on folks, wake the hell up. The NBA doesn't even have a system that reviews the quality of officiating. We've been watching Dan and Joey Crawford in the Finals the past 3+ years. Are you really a big enough of a jackass to believe that those 2 have just made the most correct calls in the regular season each year?

[russwest0]

For someone who posts with good English and has a well thought out argument or post, you really shouldn't have all the negs you do...I'm guessing you ruffled the feathers of just about every Heat fan and negged you accordingly :lol

To be honest I don't know why I am negged so much, most of it was from me coming in here and calling the Heat overrated since they were 1 play from losing the ECF in 6 and 1 play from losing the finals in 6, both as a result of their opponents coaching mistakes. Yet people acted like we were watching the Bulls come off their 4th or 5th title win in dominating fashion. I called all of the LeBron/Heat fans out on overrating their squad, and got negged accordingly.

I think they were just trying to troll the LeBron haters tho, I just came in at a wrong time trying to be a voice of reason. Didn't fit in well with the troll culture.

[T-Time3]

i fukking hate joey crawford

[AirFederer]

I think it was Cle -Wizards playoff 2007 that put me off NBA for years. I?m no Lebron hater at all, but during that series he got away with so many blatant travels in the clutch that I just couldn`t watch any more.

But I don`t think it`s rigged, like Stern giving orders, but there is a culture of calls going to superstars and big teams. And that`s bad.

[tomtucker]

not rigged, but shitty refs yes............but most of those refs are gone now, only joey crawford remains

[Breezy]

Some people here need a course in Logic. Officials making horrible calls is not equal to the Entire NBA being rigged. People sound even more insane when they go over a list isolated events over the course of 30 years to make their point. You can arrange the facts to fit your theories any way you want and put your credibility right up there with creationists, hollow earth theory and ghost hunters.

The United states government with the ability to imprison and kill people still cant keep a secret from hitting wikileaks, but somehow David stern and a group of college drop out refs have everything tightly under wraps? The fact is they there are literally thousands of people involved in putting the NBA product on the floor. And with all of those people come billions of dollars being spent to give their agenda's the edge.

If there is a conspiracy then your either saying that it's taking place right under the noses of billionaires, who are spending ridiculous amounts of money to ensure their team has the advantage with superior players or you're saying they are complicit in the scam; In which case Mark Cuban was in on the 2006 finals reffing, The Maloofs were in on the 2002 western conference finals, The entire League capitulated to Stern in the 85 draft, The 29 other owners are fine with letting San Antonio ( one of the smallest markets with the least wealthy owner) win 4 titles.

Like most conspiracies people who believe the NBA is rigged have a filter that only processes information that fits with the idea, and conveniently leaves out the information that contradicts their notions.


HERE IS THE REALITY: The NBA does not have perfect competition. The referee's introduce a human element of judgement that is often flawed. Crappy refs who get carried away exist.

Joey Crawford is a terrible ref.
Game 6 of the 2002 WCF was a travesty of Justice. Kings should be champs.
Super star calls exist
Make up calls exist.
Reputation fouls exist.
Wade was untouchable in the 2006 finals.

All of that is the result of Isolated bad judgement. Not the predetermined outcomes playing out.

Ill leave you with my favorite anti conspiracy stat.

The biggest market and David Stern's favorite team are the New york Knicks. Since he took over as comish they have 0 championships. The 3rd smallest market Spurs have 4.

[poido123]

Some people here need a course in Logic. Officials making horrible calls is not equal to the Entire NBA being rigged. People sound even more insane when they go over a list isolated events over the course of 30 years to make their point. You can arrange the facts to fit your theories any way you want and put your credibility right up there with creationists, hollow earth theory and ghost hunters.

The United states government with the ability to imprison and kill people still cant keep a secret from hitting wikileaks, but somehow David stern and a group of college drop out refs have everything tightly under wraps? The fact is they there are literally thousands of people involved in putting the NBA product on the floor. And with all of those people come billions of dollars being spent to give their agenda's the edge.

If there is a conspiracy then your either saying that it's taking place right under the noses of billionaires, who are spending ridiculous amounts of money to ensure their team has the advantage with superior players or you're saying they are complicit in the scam; In which case Mark Cuban was in on the 2006 finals reffing, The Maloofs were in on the 2002 western conference finals, The entire League capitulated to Stern in the 85 draft, The 29 other owners are fine with letting San Antonio ( one of the smallest markets with the least wealthy owner) win 4 titles.

Like most conspiracies people who believe the NBA is rigged have a filter that only processes information that fits with the idea, and conveniently leaves out the information that contradicts their notions.


HERE IS THE REALITY: The NBA does not have perfect competition. The referee's introduce a human element of judgement that is often flawed. Crappy refs who get carried away exist.

Joey Crawford is a terrible ref.
Game 6 of the 2002 WCF was a travesty of Justice. Kings should be champs.
Super star calls exist
Make up calls exist.
Reputation fouls exist.
Wade was untouchable in the 2006 finals.

All of that is the result of Isolated bad judgement. Not the predetermined outcomes playing out.

Ill leave you with my favorite anti conspiracy stat.

The biggest market and David Stern's favorite team are the New york Knicks. Since he took over as comish they have 0 championships. The 3rd smallest market Spurs have 4.


Just a question, did you watch the video?

[poido123]

To be honest I don't know why I am negged so much, most of it was from me coming in here and calling the Heat overrated since they were 1 play from losing the ECF in 6 and 1 play from losing the finals in 6, both as a result of their opponents coaching mistakes. Yet people acted like we were watching the Bulls come off their 4th or 5th title win in dominating fashion. I called all of the LeBron/Heat fans out on overrating their squad, and got negged accordingly.

I think they were just trying to troll the LeBron haters tho, I just came in at a wrong time trying to be a voice of reason. Didn't fit in well with the troll culture.

Fair enough.

You go in all guns blazing and the end result is usually trading insults and a bunch of negs :lol

I agree with you on alot of things, however I do try and soften the blow and give a bit of ground in my arguments. Otherwise the Heat fans will just shut off and not listen or neg you. Just how it is...

[poido123]

No, he's a massive troll who rarely says anything of note. He has his moments and is proving that he feigns retardation in an attempt to rustle jimmies.

Do we want a forum of everyone thinking the same way and being politically correct?

That's how governments manipulate the people to keep order :confusedshrug:

[CeltsGarlic]

Can someone please explain me the one with iverson? Ref said "you brought the crowd down"? Cause that would be ridiculous :lol

Thanks.

[poido123]

Can someone please explain me the one with iverson? Ref said "you brought the crowd down"? Cause that would be ridiculous :lol

Thanks.

At first thought I was thinking he was suggesting that Iverson was using the crowd against him? I don't know, I'll need to rewatch it.

[poido123]

Can someone please explain me the one with iverson? Ref said "you brought the crowd down"? Cause that would be ridiculous :lol

Thanks.

Think it's one of those calls where nobody but the ref knows what's up :lol

I just don't understand what he's implying?

[ralph_i_el]

Some people here need a course in Logic. Officials making horrible calls is not equal to the Entire NBA being rigged. People sound even more insane when they go over a list isolated events over the course of 30 years to make their point. You can arrange the facts to fit your theories any way you want and put your credibility right up there with creationists, hollow earth theory and ghost hunters.

The United states government with the ability to imprison and kill people still cant keep a secret from hitting wikileaks, but somehow David stern and a group of college drop out refs have everything tightly under wraps? The fact is they there are literally thousands of people involved in putting the NBA product on the floor. And with all of those people come billions of dollars being spent to give their agenda's the edge.

If there is a conspiracy then your either saying that it's taking place right under the noses of billionaires, who are spending ridiculous amounts of money to ensure their team has the advantage with superior players or you're saying they are complicit in the scam; In which case Mark Cuban was in on the 2006 finals reffing, The Maloofs were in on the 2002 western conference finals, The entire League capitulated to Stern in the 85 draft, The 29 other owners are fine with letting San Antonio ( one of the smallest markets with the least wealthy owner) win 4 titles.

Like most conspiracies people who believe the NBA is rigged have a filter that only processes information that fits with the idea, and conveniently leaves out the information that contradicts their notions.


HERE IS THE REALITY: The NBA does not have perfect competition. The referee's introduce a human element of judgement that is often flawed. Crappy refs who get carried away exist.

Joey Crawford is a terrible ref.
Game 6 of the 2002 WCF was a travesty of Justice. Kings should be champs.
Super star calls exist
Make up calls exist.
Reputation fouls exist.
Wade was untouchable in the 2006 finals.

All of that is the result of Isolated bad judgement. Not the predetermined outcomes playing out.

Ill leave you with my favorite anti conspiracy stat.

The biggest market and David Stern's favorite team are the New york Knicks. Since he took over as comish they have 0 championships. The 3rd smallest market Spurs have 4.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Donaghy#Allegations_against_the_NBA
This is the wikileaks equivalent for the NBA.

If Joey crawford was really just a bad ref then he wouldn't be put in charge of all these games would he? I'm not saying everything is rigged. Things are just pushed in different directions. Why would small market teams winning championships be a reason the league is not rigged?

[longtime lurker]

I'm pretty sure the NBA is rigged, but this video is just an example of how piss poor the reffing is. Someone needs to send this to the NBA offices.

[Frozen1]

It

[I<3NBA]

i am more inclined to believe that certain refs operate independently from Stern than Stern and the whole NBA rigging everything.

i believe some refs have mob connections and most refs rigging games are because of gambling.

but i also believe that even with refs trying to rig games, games can still be hard to rig if one team is massively superior than the other. for example, it'd be hard to rig a blow out game.

which leads me to my next point. if a team wants to win a championship, then they better take the game out of the refs' hands and into their own hands. that simple.

[Pushxx]

Look no further than the playoffs for evidence. Add in 2010 G7 Finals.

Catastrophically called games happen mostly in the playoffs for a reason: it's when the rigging matters most.

Superstar calls are a business decision.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Hold Up

Did That Ref Seriously Call A Foul On Iverson For "bringing The Crowd Down" ?????

[HorryIsMyMVP]

Hold Up

Did That Ref Seriously Call A Foul On Iverson For "bringing The Crowd Down" ?????
mmm thats a technical foul...and if you dont like it thats a technical foul. and another technical foul...:oldlol:

[HorryIsMyMVP]

Hold Up

Did That Ref Seriously Call A Foul On Iverson For "bringing The Crowd Down" ?????
In all seriousness though isn't it suppose to be a technical foul for taunting the crowd and telling the ref he can't do his job?

[longtime lurker]

Hold Up

Did That Ref Seriously Call A Foul On Iverson For "bringing The Crowd Down" ?????

Not as bad as a technical for intimidation :facepalm

[senelcoolidge]

If you have watched the NBA long enough you know there are funny things happening. Inconsistent officiating. All of a sudden one team is getting picked on with whistles and the other team comes back. Super star calls which I hate. The NBA is unwatchable sometimes.