Are these dirty moves in fantasy sports?

[hateraid]

1- When you're proposed a trade and you hold out until one of your players gets injured to accept the trade?

2- To add and drop players in the league allows a certain amount of player moves to maximize roster?

3- To completely fleece a weaker player?

Thoughts from you fantasy studs

Are there any other cheap moves?

[Crown&Coke]

"you play to win the game"

Herm said it best.

#3 is pretty shady. But one of the other stronger players WILL do it, guaranteed. So take that into consideration

But I quit fantasy because it was taking over my life. It was like electronic crack and I was Odoming all over the place. Maybe not the best to answer

[BrooklynZoo]

another cheap move would be to see what players your matchup needs and pick them up... would i do any of these, prob not

[chosen_one6]

another cheap move would be to see what players your matchup needs and pick them up... would i do any of these, prob not

That's not cheap, that's smart.

[sixerfan82]

Never heard the phrase 'fleece a player', what exactly does that mean?

[irondarts]

#1 is pretty cheap.

The rest are meh. It's annoying when certain managers constantly propose ridiculously one sided trades and get pissed when you reject them.

[BrooklynZoo]

That's not cheap, that's smart.


im in the championship game in my fantasy football league and my matchup's defense is kinda weak... i thought about picking up a bunch of defenses (even though my defense is set), but i just picked up one lol

[chosen_one6]

Never heard the phrase 'fleece a player', what exactly does that mean?

When you fleece a sheep what happens? You're stripping it clean.

That's essentially what fleecing a player is in fantasy sports. You strip them of their valuable players via trade by giving them overvalued or trash players.

[Qwyjibo]

2- To add and drop players in the league allows a certain amount of player moves to maximize roster?
I would do this all the time. Especially towards the end of the season in tight leagues. I say if it's not against the rules, it's not dirty. Play to win.

Trades are the iffy part. If one person is basically out and they collude with someone else in a money league by giving them their best players, that's BS. But it's also on the rules being setup to be able to veto trades and the other members being active enough to notice it. So if something like that goes through, the blame goes on all.

[tmacattack33]

1- When you're proposed a trade and you hold out until one of your players gets injured to accept the trade?

2- To add and drop players in the league allows a certain amount of player moves to maximize roster?

3- To completely fleece a weaker player?

Thoughts from you fantasy studs

Are there any other cheap moves?

What do you mean by that

[sixerfan82]

When you fleece a sheep what happens? You're stripping it clean.

That's essentially what fleecing a player is in fantasy sports. You strip them of their valuable players via trade by giving them overvalued or trash players.

I see, thanks for the explanation.

[hateraid]

What do you mean by that

Say your league allow a maximum of 8 players you can add a week. If someone is not playing on your roster you drop him and add a player who is playing. So if you had 7 people playing that day you drop one and add somebody who's playing. Now you have eight. Usually somebody with low productivity you can get back down the line.

[bdreason]

I've been a league commish for about 6 years now, and I run a rule-set that addresses all of these issues.

First, there is a game limit of 40 games per week, which means constantly adding and dropping players (streaming) is pointless. It's about quality, not quantity. I also only allow 2 transactions per week, which gives everyone in the league a chance to add hot FA's. Finally, I have trade veto power over any lopsided trades. My veto can be overturned with 6/11 (no vote for me) team votes.

[Myth]

1- When you're proposed a trade and you hold out until one of your players gets injured to accept the trade?

2- To add and drop players in the league allows a certain amount of player moves to maximize roster?

3- To completely fleece a weaker player?

Thoughts from you fantasy studs

Are there any other cheap moves?

1. Why doesn't your league have a time-line to accept the trade? My league has a week to accept, so you can't just save it for an injury. Assuming your league allows you to just sit on a trade proposal and wait to see if it becomes advantageous in the future, then yes, it is cheap.

2. Not cheap. Strategy. You are only dropping weak players temporarily for other weak players anyway. If the player you are dropping are quality, others will pick them up and it is your loss.

3. Fair game.


It is weak to take advantage of a personal relationship with another player who isn't so much into the fantasy league.

[Thorpesaurous]

I had a proposed trade out this year for Doug Martin. I was offering a package of two running backs for one, but one of mine was on a bye, so I told the guy we could wait till the week ended so he wouldn't suffer having the one lesser back for this week. That was the week Martin got hurt. I don't know if he would've accepted the deal or not, because I rescinded the trade as soon as I saw the injury. But to me that would be a little dirty. It's certainly on me to rescind the trade. But I do think in that case the offerer should have a window until Tuesday to rescind the trade, which overrides his ability to accept it. It shouldn't just be about him seeing the injury news a few hours earlier.


Very rarely are all teams strong everywhere, so I'm not opposed to people picking and dropping players. In fact it's a big part of team assembly. If you stack your bye weeks and have a week where you have to cut good players just to field a team, that's on you. And for example this year, I was weak at WR, even while only playing two. So I was flipping guys every week based on matchup. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. And I do it with Defense and Kicker too. Some D is playing outdoors in the cold, snow, wind, rain. They're playing a lousey offense. Or a kicker if he gets an indoor game, or a game in Denver. I play those matchup type of things all the time.

Fleecing a bad player should be handled by a league veto policy. Although I have to admit I don't always see it. We had a bad one go through this year where Marshawn Lynch went through for some TE, a middling WR, and a middling RB. Even if you don't veto it, it'd be nice to see so I could offer a counter of better pieces if I so choose. This is my first year using ESPN though, so I missed it obviously. Otherwise I've prefferred it to Yahoo which we used to use.

I'm in my championship this weekend.
Cam Newton
AP
Laveon Bell
Chris Ogbonnaya
Ryan Matthews
Dwayne Bowe
Julian Edelman
Jimmy Graham
Lions D
Phil Dawson

My bench is
TY Hilton
Bilal Powell
Panthers D
Marlon Brown from Baltimore
Darren Sproles
Toby Gerhart
and Ben Tate.

I'd been using Tate for weeks until he got IR'd. If both AP and Gerhart are out, I'm screwed. Bilal Powell helped at the start of the year, and just as he cooled off Tate moved into the starting lineup in Houston.
I'd also been getting good production from the Panthers D, but I picked up the Detroit D figuring they've got The Giants at home. And I'm kind of counting on The Saints to play well, or at least Jimmy Graham. And if AP is ruled out, maybe Darren Sproles too.

I can't find an upgrade at RB to Ogbanaya at this point on the waiver wire.

This was a 14 team league at a $200 buy in. I don't think we'd do 14 again. 12 maybe.

[irondarts]

I had a proposed trade out this year for Doug Martin. I was offering a package of two running backs for one, but one of mine was on a bye, so I told the guy we could wait till the week ended so he wouldn't suffer having the one lesser back for this week. That was the week Martin got hurt. I don't know if he would've accepted the deal or not, because I rescinded the trade as soon as I saw the injury. But to me that would be a little dirty. It's certainly on me to rescind the trade. But I do think in that case the offerer should have a window until Tuesday to rescind the trade, which overrides his ability to accept it. It shouldn't just be about him seeing the injury news a few hours earlier.


Very rarely are all teams strong everywhere, so I'm not opposed to people picking and dropping players. In fact it's a big part of team assembly. If you stack your bye weeks and have a week where you have to cut good players just to field a team, that's on you. And for example this year, I was weak at WR, even while only playing two. So I was flipping guys every week based on matchup. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. And I do it with Defense and Kicker too. Some D is playing outdoors in the cold, snow, wind, rain. They're playing a lousey offense. Or a kicker if he gets an indoor game, or a game in Denver. I play those matchup type of things all the time.

Fleecing a bad player should be handled by a league veto policy. Although I have to admit I don't always see it. We had a bad one go through this year where Marshawn Lynch went through for some TE, a middling WR, and a middling RB. Even if you don't veto it, it'd be nice to see so I could offer a counter of better pieces if I so choose. This is my first year using ESPN though, so I missed it obviously. Otherwise I've prefferred it to Yahoo which we used to use.

I'm in my championship this weekend.
Cam Newton
AP
Laveon Bell
Chris Ogbonnaya
Ryan Matthews
Dwayne Bowe
Julian Edelman
Jimmy Graham
Lions D
Phil Dawson

My bench is
TY Hilton
Bilal Powell
Panthers D
Marlon Brown from Baltimore
Darren Sproles
Toby Gerhart
and Ben Tate.

I'd been using Tate for weeks until he got IR'd. If both AP and Gerhart are out, I'm screwed. Bilal Powell helped at the start of the year, and just as he cooled off Tate moved into the starting lineup in Houston.
I'd also been getting good production from the Panthers D, but I picked up the Detroit D figuring they've got The Giants at home. And I'm kind of counting on The Saints to play well, or at least Jimmy Graham. And if AP is ruled out, maybe Darren Sproles too.

I can't find an upgrade at RB to Ogbanaya at this point on the waiver wire.

This was a 14 team league at a $200 buy in. I don't think we'd do 14 again. 12 maybe.
Is Jordan Todman available? Or Dennis Johnson (taking over for Tate)

[chosen_one6]

Say your league allow a maximum of 8 players you can add a week. If someone is not playing on your roster you drop him and add a player who is playing. So if you had 7 people playing that day you drop one and add somebody who's playing. Now you have eight. Usually somebody with low productivity you can get back down the line.

That's called streaming and is a completely viable fantasy strategy.

[Thorpesaurous]

Is Jordan Todman available? Or Dennis Johnson (taking over for Tate)

Both guys are owned already. I just dumped Tate for Brian Leonard in TB, who may get the bulk of their carries, and Bilal Powell for Dennis Pitta, who I could play in my Flex spot if both Minnie guys wind up not going.

It sounds like one of the Minnie guys is gonna play. I'm sure I'll wind up playing the wrong one.

Here's the team I'm playing against:

QB Philip Rivers
RB Matt Forte
RB Eddie Lacy
RB/WR Antonio Brown from Pitt
WR Keenan Allen from SD
WR Riley Cooper the racist from Phi.
TE Andrew Quarless
FLEX Andre Ellington
D/ST Arizona
K M. Crosby from GB

and his Bench is

Russell Wilson
Tolbert from Carolina
Eddie Royal (He's got a lot of Chargers)
Ruben Randle
Heath Miller
A Robinson from Washington
Nick Novak, SDs kicker.

[Im so nba'd out]

If you leave a trade up just to accept it if your player gets hurt YOUR A SNAKE.The person who didnt cancel the trade is stupid if they leave a trade up for days though.

[tmacattack33]

Say your league allow a maximum of 8 players you can add a week. If someone is not playing on your roster you drop him and add a player who is playing. So if you had 7 people playing that day you drop one and add somebody who's playing. Now you have eight. Usually somebody with low productivity you can get back down the line.

You mean if i have a player who isn't playing that week and I drop him, knowing that no one will pick him up any way and I might be able to pick this player back up in the future?

What's wrong with that? :confusedshrug:

[Thorpesaurous]

You mean if i have a player who isn't playing that week and I drop him, knowing that no one will pick him up any way and I might be able to pick this player back up in the future?

What's wrong with that? :confusedshrug:

I picked up good players on bye weeks that people had to cut a few times. It's part of building a team. The other option for those people, which I don't really disagree with, is just sacrifice the week and leave an open roster spot on the field if need be. At least then your bye week is out of the way.

I also almost never carry a backup QB. Anyone else do that? I sort of figure that if I have to go to my backup, I'm pretty screwed anyway, and there's always someone available in a bind that comes out of nowhere.

[hateraid]

You mean if i have a player who isn't playing that week and I drop him, knowing that no one will pick him up any way and I might be able to pick this player back up in the future?

What's wrong with that? :confusedshrug:

I've been accused of being cheap using that strategy

[Wally450]

When your in the playoffs and go to pick someone up, only to see that a guy who isn't in the playoffs **** blocks you and picks up that player before you. Dirty.

[longtime lurker]

1- When you're proposed a trade and you hold out until one of your players gets injured to accept the trade?

2- To add and drop players in the league allows a certain amount of player moves to maximize roster?

3- To completely fleece a weaker player?

Thoughts from you fantasy studs

Are there any other cheap moves?

The fist move is a bitch move only if you wait till after the injury news breaks to accept it.

2. Is just good strategy

3. fantasy is nature's way of weeding out the weak.

[hateraid]

What about a player out of the playoffs loading a player in the playoffs?

[chosen_one6]

What about a player out of the playoffs loading a player in the playoffs?

It's kind of cheap but it's not really against the rules unless your settings are made to lock rosters once they are eliminated.

[longtime lurker]

What about a player out of the playoffs loading a player in the playoffs?

Who gives a ****. I'd do it in a league where guys are too cheap to make any trades just to piss them off. The only exception when it comes to that is dropping all your players once you're out of the playoffs. That's complete horse shit.

[GOBB]

#3 could be cheap depending on the trade. Some FF leagues have strict rules. One is trading. Its a difference between a bad trade and a ok you two are sleeping with each other trade. Fun league I wouldnt care. Money league? Nah, no Casey Keesum, Trent Richardson for Peyton Manning.


another cheap move would be to see what players your matchup needs and pick them up... would i do any of these, prob not

That is smart. Nothing cheap about it. I've done it with success and failure