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$LakerGold
12-20-2013, 05:27 AM
This Is what happens When A Little Girl Gives Marijuana A Try...

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$LakerGold
12-20-2013, 05:29 AM
http://www.quickmeme.com/p/3vql5s

East_Stone_Ya
12-20-2013, 05:33 AM
that is purely individual

$LakerGold
12-20-2013, 05:36 AM
that is purely individual
Are you crazy?

D-Wade316
12-20-2013, 08:23 AM
Weed :rockon:

Myth
12-20-2013, 08:50 AM
This is what happens when Myth gives marijuana a try

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/2210783/stoned-o.gif

Theoo
12-20-2013, 11:01 AM
man if these girl stop a seisure i need smock some weed i well maybe be basketballs player

tmacattack33
12-20-2013, 11:49 AM
man if these girl stop a seisure i need smock some weed i well maybe be basketballs player

I think your theory is sound and you should give it a try.

Styles p
12-20-2013, 12:38 PM
here's a vice documentary on a little girl using marijuana for her cancer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXKjRkkoIOU

-p.tiddy-
12-20-2013, 12:52 PM
What is the motive for this though? To legalize pot? She is using legal medical pot, and according to that it is a strain very low in THC. It can't be used to get high.

There are lots of drugs that help people on an individual basis that are bad to use on a recreational basis... Vicotin, xanax, etc

SCREWstonRockets
12-20-2013, 01:09 PM
What is the motive for this though? To legalize pot? She is using legal medical pot, and according to that it is a strain very low in THC. It can't be used to get high.

There are lots of drugs that help people on an individual basis that are bad to use on a recreational basis... Vicotin, xanax, etc
Yes and those are fully legal drugs. Medicinal marijuana is only legal in a few states, so only people living there can take advantage of the medical benefits.

I think the motive was to lessen the negative stigma of marijuana. Yes, like a lot of things, it is abused and used in excess by some, but the medical benefits are too much to ignore. A lot of those dangerous pills can be replaced by marijuana.

tpols
12-20-2013, 01:22 PM
What is the motive for this though? To legalize pot? She is using legal medical pot, and according to that it is a strain very low in THC. It can't be used to get high.

There are lots of drugs that help people on an individual basis that are bad to use on a recreational basis... Vicotin, xanax, etc
Except those are highly addictive drugs.. marijuana is not.

verylegit
12-20-2013, 01:49 PM
What is the motive for this though? To legalize pot? She is using legal medical pot, and according to that it is a strain very low in THC. It can't be used to get high.

There are lots of drugs that help people on an individual basis that are bad to use on a recreational basis... Vicotin, xanax, etc
Honestly, weed is probably a better alternative than most drugs used for seizures. My brother has epilepsy and even though the medicine he uses can control his condition, he has to keep visiting his doctor bc of how quickly he gains tolerance for the medicine...not to mention the bad side effects. I also know of another person that is treated for epilepsy, except he continues to have seizures.

My classmate in high school had seizures as well, no medicine stopped them ether so he began smoking weed and they stopped all of a sudden, except back then medical weed was not allowed so he couldn't always get weed. He died from a seizure eventually.

Loneshot
12-20-2013, 03:15 PM
Damn that family is going to be loaded, even more so than they already are. You folks realize that having a marijuana dispensary license on par with having a liquor license, something very valuable and will make sure you ALWAYS have money. That's why they shut down so many and now its extremely expensive to get a license if you can get one at all.

bagelred
12-20-2013, 05:01 PM
Charlotte is currently serving 10 years in prison on mandatory minimum sentencing drug laws.

$LakerGold
12-20-2013, 05:08 PM
What is the motive for this though? To legalize pot? She is using legal medical pot, and according to that it is a strain very low in THC. It can't be used to get high.

There are lots of drugs that help people on an individual basis that are bad to use on a recreational basis... Vicotin, xanax, etc
Just the common issue with people living in the past, still letting the government brainwash them.

Dresta
12-20-2013, 05:53 PM
Except those are highly addictive drugs.. marijuana is not.
Doesn't really matter if she has to take it all the time. High grade ****s with your head as much as anything else from my experience. I would also say that grade can be very addictive; despite having taken plenty of conventionally addictive drugs, the only thing that really gives me strong cravings is bud.

Bandito
12-20-2013, 08:51 PM
Maybe I should've faked epilepsy when I was a kid.

Fresh Kid
12-20-2013, 09:07 PM
I would never give no kids no weed, never:no:

RoseCity07
12-20-2013, 10:11 PM
Why are most potheads so ignorant though? The image of the drug is not exactly respectable. I can't take someone seriously when they're standing in front of 7 eleven with a Nacho talking about the government needs to make all drugs legal.

I think Marijuanna should be legal but too many bum looking people drag the idea down. There needs to be more published scientific research. Not bro science.

Styles p
12-20-2013, 11:49 PM
Why are most potheads so ignorant though? The image of the drug is not exactly respectable. I can't take someone seriously when they're standing in front of 7 eleven with a Nacho talking about the government needs to make all drugs legal.

I think Marijuanna should be legal but too many bum looking people drag the idea down. There needs to be more published scientific research. Not bro science.

calling potheads ignorant meanwhile you're stereotyping every pothead as the stereotypical lazy stoner that sits on the couch eating junk food. :confusedshrug:

OhNoTimNoSho
12-21-2013, 09:07 AM
Woah dude this totally justifies me smoking weed all day.

Myth
12-21-2013, 10:00 AM
Woah dude this totally justifies me smoking weed all day.

:lol

-p.tiddy-
12-21-2013, 01:07 PM
calling potheads ignorant meanwhile you're stereotyping every pothead as the stereotypical lazy stoner that sits on the couch eating junk food. :confusedshrug:
His overall point is right though... The main spokespeople for pot are like fckin Willie Nelson and Snoop Dog and those types just make the stereotypes worse, not better.

Pot needs more people like Bill Maher endorsing it, and less musicians and rappers...

Hoodlum Science
12-21-2013, 01:21 PM
Doesn't really matter if she has to take it all the time. High grade ****s with your head as much as anything else from my experience. I would also say that grade can be very addictive; despite having taken plenty of conventionally addictive drugs, the only thing that really gives me strong cravings is bud.

You obviously don't know shit.

-p.tiddy-
12-21-2013, 01:23 PM
why does it have to be a total tw*t though?
Bill Maher?

Yeah he can be a massive snarky douche... but at least it is obvious he is educated and driven and motivated... it's a better image for parents than Cypress Hill


Pot really needs someone like Gates or Jobs to endorse it, some self made billionaire geek type, that would really go a long way I think.

Styles p
12-21-2013, 01:57 PM
Bill Maher?

Yeah he can be a massive snarky douche... but at least it is obvious he is educated and driven and motivated... it's a better image for parents than Cypress Hill


Pot really needs someone like Gates or Jobs to endorse it, some self made billionaire geek type, that would really go a long way I think.

steve jobs did smoke pot and also dropped acid, carl sagan was alos an admitted stoner.

-p.tiddy-
12-21-2013, 02:45 PM
steve jobs did smoke pot and also dropped acid, carl sagan was alos an admitted stoner.
Right but they didn't endorse it (maybe Sagan did, idk)...Bill Clinton smoked pot too, Bush did coke even... but they acted as though it was a shameful thing

Scholar
12-21-2013, 02:56 PM
I'm not here to discuss what I think about pot because I'm sure if any of you have read any of my posts over the years about pot, you'd know what I think about it. What I will discuss, though, is what I think about pot because I'm sure if any of you have ready any of my posts over the years about various topics, you've come to realize I'm a bit retarded and probably don't have incredibly insightful views to share.
With all that said, marijuana is bad for you. It makes you lose sperm cells, which in turn make it impossible to nut on a girl's face like they do in our favorite romantic comedies, aka pornos.
My favorite type of weed is the type I can inhale when it's burning.
I think if everyone smoked weed, it'd be better. I mean, why should we allow this little girl to try weed by herself? She's taking it in oil form? F*ck it. Where do I sign up? I'll join the cause.
In the end, marijuana is good for everyone. You should definitely stay away from it.

Norcaliblunt
12-22-2013, 12:46 PM
Yes, people who believe that there is nothing wrong at all with smoking weed recreationally all day everyday are annoying, and wrong in their assumption.

But you know what else is annoying? The 50 million beer and hard liquor ads I have to see every time I watch a ball game. Advertisements where dudes drinking beer are acting like complete idiots, or there's the glorification of some disgusting brand of liquor. Also how about those loud drunken douche bag's you see who won't shut the **** up, slurring their words, and can't even get a coherent sentence out of their mouth? Fools picking fights, and mad dogging you just because they've had some liquid courage? Those people who offer you a glass of wine, or a drink, and when you tell them you don't drink they give you a hard time? What about drunken assholes who beat their wives and kids? Drunk drivers crashing cars and killing people? Bums on the street who are completely schizophrenic from years of alcohol abuse?

You guys say more respectable people need to endorse marijuana? What like the Dos Equis guy? If you and the general public can accept alcohol, you can accept marijuana. Unless you just have some personal bias, and chip on your shoulder.

Dresta
12-22-2013, 01:33 PM
You obviously don't know shit.
I know a lot about this actually, and i doubt the same is true of you.

All drugs should be legal, and all have their pros and cons; but if you think smoking high grade every day isn't bad for you, and that the stuff doesn't have the potential for addiction (a rather insidious one at that) then you don't know shit.

I have my own experience as well as the experience i've gained from spending a lot of time with a multitude of potheads. I blazed every day for 2+ years (still blaze, just not every day) and i remember the horrible feeling when none of your dealers are answering, it's half nine, and they stop running at 10 - the desperation :lol . I remember all the people i spent time with daily who would bemoan the use of weed, say they were giving up, and last a couple of hours before ringing up for some more.

Even my hippie dealer (a guy who could get every drug you can think of and more and spent all his time taking drugs and playing music) devised a system of only smoking grade on the weekends, because guess what, it ****s with your head.

Styles p
12-22-2013, 02:01 PM
I know a lot about this actually, and i doubt the same is true of you.

All drugs should be legal, and all have their pros and cons; but if you think smoking high grade every day isn't bad for you, and that the stuff doesn't have the potential for addiction (a rather insidious one at that) then you don't know shit.

I have my own experience as well as the experience i've gained from spending a lot of time with a multitude of potheads. I blazed every day for 2+ years (still blaze, just not every day) and i remember the horrible feeling when none of your dealers are answering, it's half nine, and they stop running at 10 - the desperation :lol . I remember all the people i spent time with daily who would bemoan the use of weed, say they were giving up, and last a couple of hours before ringing up for some more.

Even my hippie dealer (a guy who could get every drug you can think of and more and spent all his time taking drugs and playing music) devised a system of only smoking grade on the weekends, because guess what, it ****s with your head.
:oldlol: :oldlol:

Dresta
12-22-2013, 02:12 PM
lol really? I smoke really good weed, hash, and hash oil all the time and when I quit all that happens is I'm kinda grumpy, can't eat as much as I usually do, and have trouble falling asleep for a few days. definitely no physical cravings, or fvcking with my head.
You don't crave the feeling of smoking a doob? I've gone months without and still had that pang.

Obviously everyone is different, but what you are explaining are general symptoms of withdrawal. The appetite can take weeks to come back, and not being able to sleep is no joke, especially if you have problems with that in the first place. All those feelings are your brain trying to adjust to not getting what it is used to. Hash is different as well: it tends not to have the same intense high that high grade gives you.

Dresta
12-22-2013, 03:59 PM
tbh, I haven't quit for longer than bout a month since I started, so I guess my opinion on the matter is moot. i definitely craved bud, but it wasn't hard to find shit to fill the void. I agree it's addictive as fvck but I feel like it's more just like a really fun activity than a dangerous drug that's fvcking with your head.


I do kinda see what you're getting at tho - except for the bit about hash not getting you the same high as weed?? shit has a higher THC percentage mane, definitely gets ya more high.
Yeah, you are right there. Though you do tend to smoke hash a lot slower than grade, and some grade is just as potent as most Hash. I think i just spent too long smoking o's of mediocre hash through a bong to disassociate it from being weaker. Quality makes a big difference; it is hard to get nice hash for some reason. Though even good stuff tends not to make me buzz in the same way grade does: hash seems to almost always give me the full body i-am-never-moving stone, but this may also be associative.

Also, i'm not saying it is going to give you brain damage or anything, just that constantly being jumped up on grade does **** with your head (not making you crazy, but it makes it difficult for you to view things realistically). You only need to see 2 stoned guys arguing who's going to the shop to realise you probs shouldn't be doing it every day. And yeah, it is a fun activity, but doing it all the time will limit your ability to engage in other fun activities and enjoy other aspects of life, which could easily result in depression and further reliance on the release the stuff provides (this is why you get many former stoners hating on weed and blaming it for ruining their lives when it was really their own damn fault for not realising that you can't consume something that alters your brain in such a way every single day and expect there not to be any negative effects or alterations in everyday consciousness).

Stuff has resulted in the pissing away of so much monies as well.

Styles p
12-22-2013, 04:18 PM
Yeah, you are right there. Though you do tend to smoke hash a lot slower than grade, and some grade is just as potent as most Hash. I think i just spent too long smoking o's of mediocre hash through a bong to disassociate it from being weaker. Quality makes a big difference; it is hard to get nice hash for some reason. Though even good stuff tends not to make me buzz in the same way grade does: hash seems to almost always give me the full body i-am-never-moving stone, but this may also be associative.

Also, i'm not saying it is going to give you brain damage or anything, just that constantly being jumped up on grade does **** with your head (not making you crazy, but it makes it difficult for you to view things realistically). You only need to see 2 stoned guys arguing who's going to the shop to realise you probs shouldn't be doing it every day. And yeah, it is a fun activity, but doing it all the time will limit your ability to engage in other fun activities and enjoy other aspects of life, which could easily result in depression and further reliance on the release the stuff provides (this is why you get many former stoners hating on weed and blaming it for ruining their lives when it was really their own damn fault for not realising that you can't consume something that alters your brain in such a way every single day and expect there not to be any negative effects or alterations in everyday consciousness).

Stuff has resulted in the pissing away of so much monies as well.

umm no. most "high grade weed" is in the 20%-28% THC hash is in the 50%-70% THC range and BHO is 70%-+ range.

Norcaliblunt
12-22-2013, 04:51 PM
The problem with marijuana addiction isn't necessarily the actual physical symptoms of abuse, but more so the mental frame you are in that keeps you wanting to repetitively alter your mind state. This happens to anyone who overdoes anything. It could be eating junk food and other eating disorders, gambling, working out, porn and *********ion addiction, sex addiction, etc., etc. There is usually some sort of void in your life that you are trying to fill by chronically looking for some external means to make you happy or feel normal.

Dresta
12-22-2013, 06:05 PM
umm no. most "high grade weed" is in the 20%-28% THC hash is in the 50%-70% THC range and BHO is 70%-+ range.
You really grabbed that one out of your arse. Most Hash is not over 50% THC (did you see where i said most?). And how do you bloody know anyway? You been testing your hash for thc or something?

Nor do you seem to acknowledge that THC is not at all the only substance in cannabis that matters. The other stuff matters: if you took a THC pill with the same amount of thc in it as in your joint, the high would still be very different. In fact, i think what makes some grade **** with your head is that it has high THC and low CBD.

The Iron Fist
12-22-2013, 06:39 PM
Yes, people who believe that there is nothing wrong at all with smoking weed recreationally all day everyday are annoying, and wrong in their assumption.

But you know what else is annoying? The 50 million beer and hard liquor ads I have to see every time I watch a ball game. Advertisements where dudes drinking beer are acting like complete idiots, or there's the glorification of some disgusting brand of liquor. Also how about those loud drunken douche bag's you see who won't shut the **** up, slurring their words, and can't even get a coherent sentence out of their mouth? Fools picking fights, and mad dogging you just because they've had some liquid courage? Those people who offer you a glass of wine, or a drink, and when you tell them you don't drink they give you a hard time? What about drunken assholes who beat their wives and kids? Drunk drivers crashing cars and killing people? Bums on the street who are completely schizophrenic from years of alcohol abuse?

You guys say more respectable people need to endorse marijuana? What like the Dos Equis guy? If you and the general public can accept alcohol, you can accept marijuana. Unless you just have some personal bias, and chip on your shoulder.


What exactly is wrong with it?

The Iron Fist
12-22-2013, 06:40 PM
You don't crave the feeling of smoking a doob? I've gone months without and still had that pang.

Obviously everyone is different, but what you are explaining are general symptoms of withdrawal. The appetite can take weeks to come back, and not being able to sleep is no joke, especially if you have problems with that in the first place. All those feelings are your brain trying to adjust to not getting what it is used to. Hash is different as well: it tends not to have the same intense high that high grade gives you.

Every night I have a craving to eat something sweet.

Lets regulate sugar intake now.

Norcaliblunt
12-22-2013, 06:56 PM
What exactly is wrong with it?

The fact you are using a mind altering substance everyday just to live life, which means you are not content with basic reality. That, and the many stereotypical side effects that comes with weed addiction.

Dresta
12-22-2013, 07:09 PM
Every night I have a craving to eat something sweet.

Lets regulate sugar intake now.
Poor analogy because you are talking about something the body needs for sustenance and energy.

Nevertheless, i think you'll see that plenty of people do regulate their intake of sugar. Plenty of people abstain from sugary products completely, as they know once they get the taste they find it difficult to stop. And many of the people who don't regulate their diet suffer from all sorts of medical problems (obesity, diabetes, heart issues etc.). Most people, if they ate a tub of ice-cream the previous night, will pause and think the next day, 'nah, i won't do that again, because it'll make me a fat and unhealthy piece of shit.'

The Iron Fist
12-22-2013, 11:54 PM
The fact you are using a mind altering substance everyday just to live life, which means you are not content with basic reality. That, and the many stereotypical side effects that comes with weed addiction.

Really? So, do tell, whats it like living everyone elses life through one body?

The Iron Fist
12-22-2013, 11:55 PM
Poor analogy because you are talking about something the body needs for sustenance and energy.

Nevertheless, i think you'll see that plenty of people do regulate their intake of sugar. Plenty of people abstain from sugary products completely, as they know once they get the taste they find it difficult to stop. And many of the people who don't regulate their diet suffer from all sorts of medical problems (obesity, diabetes, heart issues etc.). Most people, if they ate a tub of ice-cream the previous night, will pause and think the next day, 'nah, i won't do that again, because it'll make me a fat and unhealthy piece of shit.'


Obviously this little girls body needs some of natures medicine to sustain a decent quality of life.
Analogy spot on.

Norcaliblunt
12-23-2013, 02:24 AM
Really? So, do tell, whats it like living everyone elses life through one body?

It feels good because I get know what it's like being your daddy, and ****ing your mom.

GASOL IS GOAT
12-23-2013, 02:29 AM
It feels good because I get know what it's like being your daddy, and ****ing your mom.
:roll:

Post of the year well, at least to me. I haven't been here too long(You can tell by my low post count and join date) so I guess I haven't seen as many posts as other users have seen.

Dresta
12-23-2013, 06:21 AM
Obviously this little girls body needs some of natures medicine to sustain a decent quality of life.
Analogy spot on.
:facepalm

You people are painful man. No logic and argument, just meaningless bs like 'natures medicine.'

AintNoSunshine
12-23-2013, 08:18 AM
I always knew weed is the best thing ever!

The Iron Fist
12-23-2013, 11:43 AM
It feels good because I get know what it's like being your daddy, and ****ing your mom.
So again, since you can't really answer the question you resort to a silly come back. Thanks for proving my point.

The Iron Fist
12-23-2013, 11:44 AM
:facepalm

You people are painful man. No logic and argument, just meaningless bs like 'natures medicine.'
Explain to me the differences in side effects between weed and pharmaceutical pills.

Dresta
12-23-2013, 01:26 PM
Explain to me the differences in side effects between weed and pharmaceutical pills.
What does that have to do with anything?

And no one can do that anyway, because different pills have different side effects, and plenty of pills are prescribed that help things on which weed has little effect.

Most of the weed people smoke is far from 'natural' as well.

This article, although pretty shit, does shed light on the distortion in saying 'weed cured this girl':

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sue-rusche/what-dr-sanjay-gupta-does_b_3770496.html

'He points out that most medical marijuana growers and dispensaries make their money on high THC/low CBD marijuana, the exact opposite of what the Figis are giving their daughter twice a day. But he never explains why, if CBD is the ingredient with medical utility, growers and dispensaries are trying to breed CBD completely out of medical marijuana, while increasing THC, the chemical that makes you high (CBD doesn't).'

The weed she was having would barely get most people caned. I'm sure it has some medicinal uses, but that doesn't make all weed good for you, nor does it make weed 'nature's medicine' as you put it.

The Iron Fist
12-23-2013, 10:48 PM
What does that have to do with anything?

And no one can do that anyway, because different pills have different side effects, and plenty of pills are prescribed that help things on which weed has little effect.

Most of the weed people smoke is far from 'natural' as well.

This article, although pretty shit, does shed light on the distortion in saying 'weed cured this girl':

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sue-rusche/what-dr-sanjay-gupta-does_b_3770496.html

'He points out that most medical marijuana growers and dispensaries make their money on high THC/low CBD marijuana, the exact opposite of what the Figis are giving their daughter twice a day. But he never explains why, if CBD is the ingredient with medical utility, growers and dispensaries are trying to breed CBD completely out of medical marijuana, while increasing THC, the chemical that makes you high (CBD doesn't).'

The weed she was having would barely get most people caned. I'm sure it has some medicinal uses, but that doesn't make all weed good for you, nor does it make weed 'nature's medicine' as you put it.

So, again, you're not basing this on personal experience, or from someone you know, rather, you're basing it on what you think.

Nice. Truth be told, my cousin had cancer. She recently told me the herb did much more for her than any pills prescribed.


But lets just believe your silly little head instead. You're entirely more credible than people who have actually gone through it.

Dresta
12-23-2013, 11:37 PM
So, again, you're not basing this on personal experience, or from someone you know, rather, you're basing it on what you think.

Nice. Truth be told, my cousin had cancer. She recently told me the herb did much more for her than any pills prescribed.


But lets just believe your silly little head instead. You're entirely more credible than people who have actually gone through it.
:lol

You're so full of shit.

I never said it cannot help patients undergoing cancer treatment so can you please shut up arguing about something completely irrelevant to the discussion. The thing is though, it doesn't actually tackle the cancer in any way, it simply eases the nausea and pain largely caused by the methods of treatment, which actually are the only way of tackling a tumour that has metastasised. So yeah, it helps, but it won't do shit on its own. Nor has this any relevance to what was being discussed you bleedin moron.

'my cousin had cancer'

grow up

KeylessEntry
12-24-2013, 12:56 AM
:lol

You're so full of shit.

I never said it cannot help patients undergoing cancer treatment so can you please shut up arguing about something completely irrelevant to the discussion. The thing is though, it doesn't actually tackle the cancer in any way, it simply eases the nausea and pain largely caused by the methods of treatment, which actually are the only way of tackling a tumour that has metastasised. So yeah, it helps, but it won't do shit on its own. Nor has this any relevance to what was being discussed you bleedin moron.

'my cousin had cancer'

grow up

While it is true that medical marijuana is often used to help patients deal with the side effects of chemo, there is growing evidence that cannabis compounds can be used to actually treat cancer itself.



http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1038/sj.bjp.0706632/full

In the last two decades, research has dramatically increased the knowledge of cannabinoids biology and pharmacology. In mammals, compounds with properties similar to active components of Cannabis sativa, the so called ‘endocannabinoids’, have been shown to modulate key cell-signalling pathways involved in cancer cell growth, invasion and metastasis. To date, cannabinoids have been licensed for clinical use as palliative treatment of chemotherapy, but increased evidences showed direct antiproliferative actions of cannabinoid agonists on several tumour cells in vitro and in animal models. In this article, we will review the principal molecular pathways modulated by cannabinoids on cancer and summarize pros and cons evidence on the possible future use of endocannabinoid-based drugs in cancer therapy.


http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=cannabinoids+cancer&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C38&as_sdtp= - tons of papers on the topic

there is also growing evidence that cigarettes are not harmful to human health. lol jk

Dresta
12-24-2013, 07:17 AM
While it is true that medical marijuana is often used to help patients deal with the side effects of chemo, there is growing evidence that cannabis compounds can be used to actually treat cancer itself.



http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=cannabinoids+cancer&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C38&as_sdtp= - tons of papers on the topic

there is also growing evidence that cigarettes are not harmful to human health. lol jk
Basically you are quoting a journal you do not understand to prove something you want to be true.

Firstly, there are many compounds that act to slow the progression of a variety of cancers (some retinoids have been very useful). The drugs that are used for this purpose are already far more effective, and far better targeted at specific cancers (drugs are developed even to target specific sub-types of certain cancers). If you have cancer and smoke bud instead of consuming these pharmaceuticals, then you will die. Secondly, what the journal is suggesting is that we isolate the cannabinoids that slow tumour progression, create a targeted medication, and then run clinical trials. Only then will cannabinoids be proven to have any effectiveness in actual patients.

As you can see, it is important to isolate the compounds that could have a therapeutic effect, from those that do not:

'In animal models, cannabinoids exert a direct antiproliferative effect on
tumours, but they could indirectly enhance tumour growth via inhibition of immunogenicity (for immunosuppressive effect of cannabinoids, see Klein, 2005). The typical immunosuppressive effect of THC is an unquestionable topic imposing caution in the dosage and administration timing of CB2-receptor selective compounds (Klein et al., 2000; Salzet et al., 2000).'

THC is the primary compound in most cannabis, yet it can be counterproductive in tackling tumour growth (this being why you have clinical trials and don't go around proclaiming stuff 'natures medicine' without knowing anything about it). The opium poppy also contains cancer limiting compounds, but that doesn't make smoking heroin good for you.

If you think that that journal says anything like 'smoking bud will save you from cancer' then you must be infinitely dense.

edit: also, the first journal on that google scholar link you posted had this to say:

'Taken together, our data show that concentrations of THC comparable with those detected in the serum of patients after THC administration accelerate proliferation of cancer cells instead of apoptosis and thereby contribute to cancer progression in patients.'

So your 'evidence' is flimsy as hell.

The Iron Fist
12-24-2013, 02:11 PM
:lol

You're so full of shit.

I never said it cannot help patients undergoing cancer treatment so can you please shut up arguing about something completely irrelevant to the discussion. The thing is though, it doesn't actually tackle the cancer in any way, it simply eases the nausea and pain largely caused by the methods of treatment, which actually are the only way of tackling a tumour that has metastasised. So yeah, it helps, but it won't do shit on its own. Nor has this any relevance to what was being discussed you bleedin moron.

'my cousin had cancer'

grow up


You're the only one who is fos shit here. You're arguing against a proven method.

$LakerGold
03-09-2014, 03:06 AM
Okay lovebirds.

Igotsoul4u
03-09-2014, 03:13 AM
Medicinal and recreational are two entirely different topics IMO. I do not think anyone under the age of 21 is doing themselves a favor by smoking weed. I'm of the camp that believes the developing brain is best left to develop as naturally as possible.