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gyu
12-21-2013, 12:26 AM
At 6'8", 240lbs he is one of the strongest and skilled wing players. Although not overly athletic he is crafty and:

- Has one of the best handles in the league for a wing player:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72L-BD2qY48

- Is a very good defender (and no, not just based on this one video clip):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GPj3p3bzdM

- Has a wet jumper as evident by his 10 three's the other day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX40iCtByhs

- Great passer/playmaker

- And of course, arguably the most clutch player in the league:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNvGblKzl9I


Seems like he has all the skills to be one, yet he has never been able to elevate his play to become one.

aj1987
12-21-2013, 12:28 AM
IQ and heart.

The JKidd Kid
12-21-2013, 12:30 AM
He averaged 25 PPG one season, idk why he didn't keep it up :confusedshrug:

The JKidd Kid
12-21-2013, 12:31 AM
IQ and heart.

Joe actually has a great BBall IQ and always gives his all on the floor despite his stoic demeanor.

ABfor3
12-21-2013, 12:31 AM
Age is definitely a factor and during his peak he was often inconsistent .

Bandito
12-21-2013, 12:32 AM
He's good but he's not good enough to be a superstar. If it was that easy players like PG would be one right now.

ABfor3
12-21-2013, 12:38 AM
He's good but he's not good enough to be a superstar. If it was that easy players like PG would be one right now.
But but but I thought majority of ISH considers him a superstar

Big Cheese
12-21-2013, 12:41 AM
As a hawks fan that watched him for years I will say this.

1. He doesnt have the mentality. His personality is too laid back and is quiet. He plays with no aggressiveness or passion. He tends to disappear and float in games too often.

2. He has never took full advantage of his physical talent. Hes soft and doesnt like contact. He settles for too many jumpers and doesnt like driving to the rim. When he does drive to the rim he settles for low percentage floaters instead of going strong and drawing fouls. He plays like hes 5,10.

CelticBaller
12-21-2013, 12:47 AM
But but but I thought majority of ISH considers him a superstar
I don't think anyone ever did

aj1987
12-21-2013, 12:50 AM
Joe actually has a great BBall IQ and always gives his all on the floor despite his stoic demeanor.

As a hawks fan that watched him for years I will say this.

1. He doesnt have the mentality. His personality is too laid back and is quiet. He plays with no aggressiveness or passion. He tends to disappear and float in games too often.

2. He has never took full advantage of his physical talent. Hes soft and doesnt like contact. He settles for too many jumpers and doesnt like driving to the rim. When he does drive to the rim he settles for low percentage floaters instead of going strong and drawing fouls. He plays like hes 5,10.

No Heart and Low BB IQ, as I said.

JellyBean
12-21-2013, 12:53 AM
That inner drive to become a superstar. Joe is cool with being in that middle range of players who are cool with just being on the court.

TheReal Kendall
12-21-2013, 01:03 AM
I would take him over Harden(manufactured superstar)

VIntageNOvel
12-21-2013, 01:16 AM
he's clutch it mean he can take over the game when he focus

if you play ball, you must have experience there's a time when everything seems like a slow motion and you cant miss,

the problem is he only show that like 5 minutes every game, while other great do it almost full game

wally_world
12-21-2013, 01:22 AM
Probably didn't have to biggest desire to win. Granted he is clutch as hell. His team was also not very well built to win. He was a borderline superstar tho.

moe94
12-21-2013, 01:27 AM
I would take him over Harden(manufactured superstar)
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l266/Nike451/Misc%20gifs%20n%20pics/officespace.gif

Dr. Ice
12-21-2013, 01:36 AM
As a hawks fan that watched him for years I will say this.

1. He doesnt have the mentality. His personality is too laid back and is quiet. He plays with no aggressiveness or passion. He tends to disappear and float in games too often.

2. He has never took full advantage of his physical talent. Hes soft and doesnt like contact. He settles for too many jumpers and doesnt like driving to the rim. When he does drive to the rim he settles for low percentage floaters instead of going strong and drawing fouls. He plays like hes 5,10.

I am also a hawks fan and this guy nailed it perfectly, especially regarding his softness. I've never seen someone that tall rely on floaters that much instead of going in with toughness.

knickballer
12-21-2013, 01:43 AM
Johnson had a very good career. I'm sure if he didn't play in a small market(atlanta) and played in a big market for his whole career he would have gotten more recognition and fame.

hawkfan
12-21-2013, 06:54 AM
The Hawks drafted Marvin Williams instead of Chris Paul or Deron Williams.

If Hawks had picked Paul or D-Will, his career would have been totally different.

Paul-Johnson-Smith-Horford-Pachulia = championship contender.

alec613
12-21-2013, 07:20 AM
He just doesn't have "it"

niko
12-21-2013, 10:33 AM
Because JJ isn't that burning type competitor other players are. If the Nets played an elimination game vs. the Nets playing a meaningless game at the end of a season, it doesn't change what JJ does. He might be great, he might not. He's always that same level, good but not great. He has moments, but it's not related to the situation.

JJ's not a superstar, it has nothing to do with being in Phoenix and then Atlanta. He's getting more acclaim now but he's not a superstar because his talent level and production aren't a superstar.

Project018
12-21-2013, 11:22 AM
He just doesn't have "it"

This. He's a great number 2 or 3 guy. Cannot be your main superstar.

pauk
12-21-2013, 11:33 AM
Its just not enough of intangibles..... not enough consistency, leadership, will-power & competitive drive.