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Aidz
12-22-2013, 04:04 AM
21.3 ppg / 5.9 apg / 3.7rpg / 40.7 %fg
21.8 ppg / 6.0 apg / 3.1rpg / 41.6 %fg
17.8 ppg / 7.9 apg / 3.5 rpg / 40.0 %fg

The top statline is D. Lillard
The mddle is K. Irving
The bottom is B. Jennings

DStebb716
12-22-2013, 04:13 AM
B-Jen is averaging 20-8-4 in December. My man.

inclinerator
12-22-2013, 04:16 AM
chris paul

KyrieTheFuture
12-22-2013, 04:55 AM
Wait, how the hell is damien lillard averaging less assists per game than Kyrie?

Dr.J4ever
12-22-2013, 06:55 AM
A true PG gets everyone involved. You gotta have a good stat line especially when it comes to assists/turnover ratio, but it's not really just the numbers. Watch the games and see who makes a lot of passes that lead to assists, those aren't in the boxscore, and you will know who the selfish PGs are and the unselfish who promote team play.

El Kabong
12-22-2013, 07:08 AM
Gross FG% from all 3.

livingby3's
12-22-2013, 07:50 AM
Orchestrating and controlling the flow of offense most certainly goes beyond what assist numbers, or individual attempted shots shows. Assist to TO can be a brief guage of their level of plays, but to know a true floor general you got to watch their games.

I<3NBA
12-22-2013, 11:04 AM
you can't judge a "true PG" from their stat lines alone. you have to look at their teammates' too.

that's how you know which are the "true PGs."

nathanjizzle
12-22-2013, 11:31 AM
a "true" pg has no business scoring over 15 points a game.

fragokota
12-22-2013, 12:10 PM
a "true" pg has no business scoring over 15 points a game.

So, you're pretty much discrediting guys like Magic,Isiah Thomas,Chris Paul,Kidd,Nash etc....

KobesFinger
12-22-2013, 12:15 PM
a "true" pg has no business scoring over 15 points a game.

D-Fish GOAT

Eric Cartman
12-22-2013, 12:17 PM
a "true" pg has no business scoring over 15 points a game.

lol derrick rose

CelticBaller
12-22-2013, 12:20 PM
None, Rondo is

I<3NBA
12-22-2013, 12:34 PM
a "true" pg has no business scoring over 15 points a game.
and why not? a true PG performs whatever is needed of him to control the game. without the threat of scoring, a passing guard is nothing.

a true PG isn't about just dealing assists or even just pure scoring. a true PG is someone who masterfully controls the game.

when your team needs you to score, you score. when your team needs you to lead, you lead. whatever your team needs, you provide. and you control the flow of the game because you handle the ball. you dictate the type of offense your team plays.

that's why a good PG is so important. you can have the most dominant frontcourt player, but if you have a scrub for a PG, that frontcourt player will be useless.

loganwadams
12-22-2013, 12:39 PM
Chris Paul: 19.2 ppg / 11.3 apg / 4.7 rpg / 46.4 %fg

That's a true PG.

nathanjizzle
12-22-2013, 12:44 PM
So, you're pretty much discrediting guys like Magic,Isiah Thomas,Chris Paul,Kidd,Nash etc....

discrediting? no im not discrediting, im saying they are not "true pgs" are you really going to say magic johnson was a "true pg"?:roll: he averaged like 7 rebounds through his career and he is a "true pg" :roll:

a true point guard should be grabbing 7 rebounds a game :bowdown:

when youre a pg you run the offense, use your mobility to move defenses and create the play. when you start scoring alot that moves you to a shooting guard role.

steve nash in his prime was floating around 15 points a game.
rajon rondo is a "true point" guard.

fragokota
12-22-2013, 12:54 PM
discrediting? no im not discrediting, im saying they are not "true pgs" are you really going to say magic johnson was a "true pg"?:roll: he averaged like 7 rebounds through his career and he is a "true pg" :roll:

a true point guard should be grabbing 7 rebounds a game :bowdown:

when youre a pg you run the offense, use your mobility to move defenses and create the play. when you start scoring alot that moves you to a shooting guard role.

steve nash in his prime was floating around 15 points a game.
rajon rondo is a "true point" guard.

I don't know how you define a true pg, but Magic was for sure a true pg.He physically may not resemble a point guard(more like a forward) but his mindset, his style of play, is exactly what a true pg should be like.And that's what defines what a pg is, not his physical dimensions as you imply... what's wrong with you dude?? :biggums:

p.s: Nash during his MVP/prime seasons was scoring above 15ppg

Tmuston Beltics
12-22-2013, 01:00 PM
None, Rondo is

:bowdown:

ralph_i_el
12-22-2013, 01:01 PM
21.3 ppg / 5.9 apg / 3.7rpg / 40.7 %fg
21.8 ppg / 6.0 apg / 3.1rpg / 41.6 %fg
17.8 ppg / 7.9 apg / 3.5 rpg / 40.0 %fg

The top statline is D. Lillard
The mddle is K. Irving
The bottom is B. Jennings

stat lines aren't a good way to determine how a player plays, and there is no such thing as a true point guard. Just watch the games

Le Shaqtus
12-22-2013, 01:13 PM
True PG's don't determine if a player is better though. Westbrook isn't a true PG but he's clearly better than all 3 of those players.

Inferno
12-22-2013, 01:52 PM
Wait, how the hell is damien lillard averaging less assists per game than Kyrie?

The new system has a lot of hockey assists because they're constantly moving the ball till they get the perfect shot

NumberSix
12-22-2013, 05:42 PM
Gross FG% from all 3.
Not really. eFG% > FG%.

For example, Lillard is really shooting 50.8 eFG%

Black and White
12-22-2013, 05:53 PM
Their stats are all good and stuff but the whole board knows the best "pure" point guard is Rajon Rondo

RagaZ
12-22-2013, 06:23 PM
Rajon Rondo.

Lord Leoshes
12-22-2013, 06:44 PM
21.3 ppg / 5.9 apg / 3.7rpg / 40.7 %fg
21.8 ppg / 6.0 apg / 3.1rpg / 41.6 %fg
17.8 ppg / 7.9 apg / 3.5 rpg / 40.0 %fg

The top statline is D. Lillard
The mddle is K. Irving
The bottom is B. Jennings

I think they should all shot less, & pass more, cause their FG% is horrific. :facepalm

I.R.Beast
12-22-2013, 11:01 PM
The new system has a lot of hockey assists because they're constantly moving the ball till they get the perfect shot
which is better than having 1 player setting up everything ...Plus lillard is more of an undersized 2 that likes hoisting 3s

Euroleague
12-22-2013, 11:02 PM
None of them. What the hell kind of question is this?

Qwyjibo
12-22-2013, 11:03 PM
There is no such thing as a "true point guard". That is nothing more than a cliche at this point.

The point guard's job is to create the best possible scoring chance for his team on offense. This can be accomplished several ways. One way is not inherently more effective than another.

Black and White
12-22-2013, 11:11 PM
None of them. What the hell kind of question is this?

At least they are all better than v-span

NumberSix
12-22-2013, 11:12 PM
I think they should all shot less, & pass more, cause their FG% is horrific. :facepalm
Not really.

Damian Lillard's eFG% is .508
Chris Paul's eFG% is .508
Russell Westbrook's eFG% is .464

It's A VC3!!!
12-22-2013, 11:12 PM
neither are because they prioritize scoring over passing. a true point guard is jason kidd and we don't have those in the league. anyways, damn, jennings averaging 8 assists? and cp3 at 19/11..wow..nice.. that's what deron is at since his return.:cheers: