45 points 19 rebounds 6 assists...Dat dude needs to go & contend ASAP

[k0kakw0rld]

Kevin Love :applause: :bowdown: Lakers could use him, even the Knicks.
Some people feel bad for Carmelo, I feel bad for K.Love
He wants to win, he does everything but fails everytime. It must be depressing, poor him.

RICKY RUBIO IS A SCRUB

[livingby3's]

Bring this dude to the Suns

[andremiller07]

K Love carries dead weight rather than putting up empty stats.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Empty stats :facepalm

Best PF in the game, what a beast.

At this point it would be sad to see him leave Minny, it's like small franchises can't compete and have themselves a great player but with the way things are going I can't blame him. Wolves need to make some moves for a big off the bench that can protect the paint, also some more scoring/shooting, and if Rubio doesn't show improvement with his scoring/shooting I would trade him (package for someone). I would still give them time to develop the team if I was Love, I don't appreciate the instant 'leaving' if they're not good but plenty of times it's frustrating to watch.

[La Frescobaldi]

Let the Wolves prove their character. One way or the other. Many thought they treated Garnett bad, will they do it again with Love?

[alec613]

He's the perfect complimentary player to every team in the league

[andremiller07]

He's the perfect complimentary player to every team in the league
No he's not some teams need scoring meaning he would not be, what good would he be on the Grizzlies instead of Conley? He'd be no good.

[LilEddyCurry]

Perfect 2nd option on a championship team

[Cone]

He proved he can put up stats, but to no surprise, it came in a loss.

Dude would be a good 2nd/3rd option, but chill with the best PF posts.

[Horde of Temujin]

Kevin Love belongs on the Spurs

Make it happen ASAP

[oh the horror]

He proved he can put up stats, but to no surprise, it came in a loss.

Dude would be a good 2nd/3rd option, but chill with the best PF posts.



Who does he really have though? I mean Ricky Rubio? K-Mart?


I don't even KNOW most of the players on the t-wolves.

[atljonesbro]

Perfect 2nd option on a championship team
Lol he's DEFINITELY a 1st option I hate when people say he's a 2nd option. A 2nd option consistantly putting up 25 ppg on good efficiency yeah get out of here.

[Rameek]

Guy scores 45 and Pek adds 34 and Minny still loses.

I cant see what more they could have done. They are playing with no talent in Minny. Absolutely no talent.:cry:

[ProfessorMurder]

Dude needs to leave Minnesota. Go anywhere but LA or Miami please.

[Lebron23]

Kevin Love belongs on the Spurs

Make it happen ASAP

His stats would go down, but he's gonna experience winning for the first time in his 6th year NBA Career.

[All Net]

Doubt he will want to stay beyond his contract.

[Junker]

Timmy D and Kevin Love in the Spurs starting line up ... that would be sweeeet

[Pacquiao]

Empty stats. This guy can't lead his team.

[Genaro]

Get him, Mitch

[sportjames23]

Love needs to be on the Bulls.

Do it, Mitch!

[OmniStrife]

He needs to join the Suns!

Dragon
Gawdsoe
Tucker
Love
Plumbeast

[Lebron23]

Empty stats. This guy can't lead his team.

Reminds me of David Lee when he played for the Knicks.

[redboy]

i'm sure every gm would rather build a championship team around aldridge/dirk than love/griffin. it's great that griffin and love get so many points off offensive rebounds/dunks/transition buckets/pick and roll jump shots, but when it's tie score in the 4th and you need a go to guy, aldridge and dirk will win you the game more often than not with clutch play/post moves while love and griffin struggle to create their own shot

[ILLsmak]

No he's not some teams need scoring meaning he would not be, what good would he be on the Grizzlies instead of Conley? He'd be no good.

lol not if he was at the PG.

-Smak

[MMM]

what can get the Celtics offer to get him

Sully + and 2 picks
than get try to get Asik from Houston

Asik
Love
Green
Bradley
Rondo

looks solid

with that being said Minny aint trading Love anytime soon and can probably get more than a trade center pieced by Sully

[Myth]

Dude needs to leave Minnesota. Go anywhere but LA or Miami please.

I prefer he goes to LA and never succeeds.

[I<3NBA]

replace the coach and they would start winning. a lot of their losses have been close. that's a coaching fault.

[HylianNightmare]

knicks get on the phone

[East_Stone_Ya]

Griffin was abused

[bingoa]

what can get the Celtics offer to get him

Sully + and 2 picks
than get try to get Asik from Houston

Asik
Love
Green
Bradley
Rondo

looks solid

with that being said Minny aint trading Love anytime soon and can probably get more than a trade center pieced by Sully
Sullinger is looking like the next Klove... why trade him?

[#number6ix#]

Bosh for k love... Get it done Riley

[305Baller]

Chris Bosh and Michael Beasley for Kevin Love???

[noob cake]

I'm starting to think that Ricky Rubio is worthless. Does 8 APG really make up for his lack of offensive efficiency?

9 ppg on 35% shooting + merely 8 assist per game. :facepalm

The borderline elite PGs like Lawson, Jruth and Lowry all average 15-18 PPG on 7-8 APG on good shooting percentages.

[Mr Exlax]

I'm starting to think that Ricky Rubio is worthless. Does 8 APG really make up for his lack of offensive efficiency?

9 ppg on 35% shooting + merely 8 assist per game. :facepalm

The borderline elite PGs like Lawson, Jruth and Lowry all average 15-18 PPG on 7-8 APG on good shooting percentages.

DMo Asik and for Love. Get it done Morey!

[chocolatethunder]

He proved he can put up stats, but to no surprise, it came in a loss.

Dude would be a good 2nd/3rd option, but chill with the best PF posts.
Translation: he's white and I wouldn't look cool if I said he was good.

[GOATbrook]

Westbrook and Love to join Lakers after their deals, could happen.

[KOBEtherealKing]

Westbrook and Love to join Lakers after their deals, could happen.
You don't see Westbrook being loyal to okc and durant? Unless these 3 teamed up to play together, now that could happen

[Crafty]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcJb0suCAAAq_qp.png

[Pra]

Imagine K Love to the Pacers?

It would probably take David West + Lance Stephenson & future first or two to make it happen.

Wolves could package Rubio, Shved or Barea on the trade too.

Could add a third team like the Wizards who could take on David West and send Nene to Minnesota. Wizards give draft picks to Minnesota since they are in win mode now...

Wolves do this simply for draft picks & rebuilding...

[clutchinho]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcJb0suCAAAq_qp.png

An empty stat-gatherer, a flopping FG% protector and an injury faker...

[CeltsGarlic]

A$AP Love

[Go Getter]

Dude is getting so overrated it's ridiculous. If he is so good he would make his team better. He sticks no defense, shoots a terrible percentage from the field and only a decent clip from the line and his efforts don't contribute to wins.

He needs to lead his team to wins....and let's not act like Pek, Barrea, Kev, and Brewer are scrubs. They are good complimentary pieces to a star player.

[clutchinho]

Dude is getting so overrated it's ridiculous. If he is so good he would make his team better. He sticks no defense, shoots a terrible percentage from the field and only a decent clip from the line and his efforts don't contribute to wins.

He needs to lead his team to wins....and let's not act like Pek, Barrea, Kev, and Brewer are scrubs. They are good complimentary pieces to a star player.

Can't blame Love entirely, It's a poorly constructed team, Pek has his strengths but you need a long rim protecting C next to Love to hide his weakness there. Teams are shooting 47% against the Wolves which is the worst in the league. You aren't going to win many games when your FG% against is ranked #30, don't care if you have prime Jordan on your team.

[Andrew Wiggins]

Dude is getting so overrated it's ridiculous. If he is so good he would make his team better. He sticks no defense, shoots a terrible percentage from the field and only a decent clip from the line and his efforts don't contribute to wins.

He needs to lead his team to wins....and let's not act like Pek, Barrea, Kev, and Brewer are scrubs. They are good complimentary pieces to a star player.

:facepalm

please tell me what other team in west with a better record has a worse supporting cast around their star player

his effective shooting % is quite high actually

[clutchinho]

:facepalm

please tell me what other team in west with a better record has a worse supporting cast around their star player

his true shooting % is quite high actually

easy, Suns and Lakers.

The talent around Love isn't that bad, but they don't fit together well when you're trying to win bball games.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Houston would be the perfect fit. Doubt they could get him though.

[CelticBaller]

Wolves should trade love and blow it up again. Maybe it will help fade that losing culture

[magic chiongson]

do it mitch

[Andrew Wiggins]

easy, Suns and Lakers.

The talent around Love isn't that bad, but they don't fit together well when you're trying to win bball games.

i'll give you the lakers, but at least they have guys that can shoot the ball

the suns? :roll:

dragic and bledsoe are both miles ahead of rubio
the morris twins are better than any player the wolves have except pekovic

[Go Getter]

:facepalm

please tell me what other team in west with a better record has a worse supporting cast around their star player

his effective shooting % is quite high actually


The Nuggets and Suns have a star player?:biggums:

[Andrew Wiggins]

The Nuggets and Suns have a star player?:biggums:

they don't need star players because they have a balanced roster of above average-fringe star players with great pieces that fit well together

the wolves are literally just love and pekovic. martin can score but can't defend and shits the bed in the 4th quarter.

rubio can pass it up but his lack of shooting completely disrupts the flow of the game and is a big reason they've lost every single close game this season.

let's be real here, you and i both know the reason you call him overrated isn't related to his play :coleman:

[Go Getter]

Can't blame Love entirely, It's a poorly constructed team, Pek has his strengths but you need a long rim protecting C next to Love to hide his weakness there. Teams are shooting 47% against the Wolves which is the worst in the league. You aren't going to win many games when your FG% against is ranked #30, don't care if you have prime Jordan on your team.
Part of that is due to Love's poor defense [as well] but you make a fair point--it isn't all Love's fault. But to call him a star he has to live up to a certain standard.

Being 8th in the West is a fair expectation imho for what he has roster and coaching wise. Until then I can't call him the #1 PF or a "great" player.

[Go Getter]

they don't need star players because they have a balanced roster of above average-fringe star players with great pieces that fit well together

the wolves are literally just love and pekovic. martin can score but can't defend and shits the bed in the 4th quarter.

rubio can pass it up but his lack of shooting completely disrupts the flow of the game and is a big reason they've lost every single close game this season.


I will also put a fair share of blame on Rubio for regressing but I think you're dismissing what other teams have done with less.

The Nuggets roster isn't that much better they just play tougher ball with PFs that are gritty and rebound besides shooting threes all game.

Not to mention the Wolves have a better or more experienced coach than the Nugs and Suns.

[Go Getter]

they don't need star players because they have a balanced roster of above average-fringe star players with great pieces that fit well together

the wolves are literally just love and pekovic. martin can score but can't defend and shits the bed in the 4th quarter.

rubio can pass it up but his lack of shooting completely disrupts the flow of the game and is a big reason they've lost every single close game this season.

let's be real here, you and i both know the reason you call him overrated isn't related to his play :coleman:
:no:

Because I don't like stretch fours that play no defense?

Please miss me with the racist bullshit...I played HS ball in Indiana with white guys that were much better than me and they have/had my utmost respect. Larry Bird, Mark Price, Toni Kukoc, and Bill Wenington are some of my favorite players and I hate flashy-type brothers like RW and Nick Young when it comes to balling style.

Stick to the debate or get igged son simple as that.

[Andrew Wiggins]

:no:

Because I don't like stretch fours that play no defense?

Please miss me with the racist bullshit...I played HS ball in Indiana with white guys that were much better than me and they have/had my utmost respect. Larry Bird, Mark Price, Toni Kukoc, and Bill Wenington are some of my favorite players and I hate flashy-type brothers like RW and Nick Young when it comes to balling style.

Stick to the debate or get igged son simple as that.

racist, wtf are you talking about? :wtf:

i mean the penchant a lot of nba fans have for dismissing star players' impact because they play on crappy teams with crappy supporting casts and awful management that put the wrong pieces around them

they've whiffed on draft picks so much it's stopped being funny. look at who they've taken after love

jonny flynn with the #6 pick
wes johnson with the #4 pick
derrick williams with the #2 pick

to sum it up, they wasted top 10 picks a guy that was out of the league in 2 years, luc richard mbah a moute, and a few second round picks

[Go Getter]

racist, wtf are you talking about? :wtf:

i mean the penchant a lot of nba fans have for dismissing star players' impact because they play on crappy teams with crappy supporting casts and awful management that put the wrong pieces around them

they've whiffed on draft picks so much it's stopped being funny. look at who they've taken after love

jonny flynn with the #6 pick
wes johnson with the #4 pick
derrick williams with the #2 pick

to sum it up, they wasted top 10 picks a guy that was out of the league in 2 years, luc richard mbah a moute, and a few second round picks


Star players get their teams to the playoffs. Dike Mutumbo led his team [full of "no names"] to the playoffs and no one was ready to call him great.

The Wolves are behind the SUNS AND NUGGETS....two teams with pretty average rosters and no stars.

We all have horror stories about bad moves our team made. Love is part of the problem, he doesn't guard his position well and he chucks up threes when he should be getting buckets down low sometimes.

[CelticBaller]

The Nuggets and Suns have a star player?:biggums:
:oldlol:
Carmelo Anthony is a star player, look at the knicks

Nuggets have a better overall team, the Wolves don't :facepalm

[Go Getter]

:oldlol:
Carmelo Anthony is a star player, look at the knicks

Nuggets have a better overall team, the Wolves don't :facepalm
Carmelo Anthony led an average Nuggets team to the playoffs in his rookie year. Try again.

What about the Suns?

Suns and Nugs have new coaches and the Wolves have a pretty good coach [in addition].

[CelticBaller]

Carmelo Anthony led an average Nuggets team to the playoffs in his rookie year. Try again.
On a 43-39 record. A record that won't get you in the playoffs in the west anymore, and Melo's team was way better, give Love a healthy Camby and he would get you to the playoff easily.

Now, explain why current Melo is unable to do better than Love? oh yeah, because his team mates might be worse

[CelticBaller]

What about the Suns?

Suns and Nugs have new coaches and the Wolves have a pretty good coach [in addition].
Suns? 3 words, Bledsoe and Dragic. The Suns might have the best backcourt in the league. Both are putting 18+ ppg with 6+ assist

[fragokota]

Last time a guy threw a statline like 45/15/5 was Lebron during the playoffs game against Boston...

[Go Getter]

On a 43-39 record. A record that won't get you in the playoffs in the west anymore, and Melo's team was way better, give love a healthy Camby and he would get you to the playoff easily.

Now, explain why current Melo is unable to do better than Love? oh yeah, because his team mates might be worse


1. It ain't about eras or conferences it's about getting the job done. Melo's team was over .500 and Love's team is below .500.

2. Give Love a healthy Camby? So Camby is what they're missing:oldlol: :facepalm

3. The thing is that Melo has been to the playoffs several times and Love has not. That's the point. Right now Melo's career is on a down turn. I do not think he is better than Kevin Love and both players will be fishing during playoff time. Both are overrated right now imho. STAR players play during playoff time.

[Go Getter]

Suns? 3 words, Bledsoe and Dragic. The Suns might have the best backcourt in the league. Both are putting 18+ ppg with 6+ assist
:facepalm

[Go Getter]

Last time a guy threw a statline like 45/15/5 was Lebron during the playoffs game against Boston...
And did they win or lose?

[fragokota]

And did they win or lose?

Take your head off your ass and check the rosters of both minny and miami...

[CelticBaller]

2. Give Love a healthy Camby? So Camby is what they're missing:oldlol: :facepalm

Giving a face up PF one of the best defensive minded center won't drastically improve the team?

http://www.ridethepine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/robryan.gif

[CelticBaller]

:facepalm
Name better

[Go Getter]

Giving a face up PF one of the best defensive minded center won't drastically improve the team?

http://www.ridethepine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/robryan.gif
Camby [the version Melo played with] is one of the best defensive minded centers in the league? For real? You're gonna sit there and tell me all they need to go from sub .500 to the playoffs is Marcus Camby? Lmaoooooooo

Pek is a good center and he is not the problem.

[Go Getter]

Take your head off your ass and check the rosters of both minny and miami...
I'm asking you if Lebron's stats led to a victory for his team or not.

When you grab every rebound and shoot every shot it really doesn't matter who the other 4 players are all they have to do is stick defense. The difference is, Lebron is his team's best player on BOTH ends....turn Lebron into a one way player like Love and the team looks TOTALLY different.

[CelticBaller]

Camby [the version Melo played with] is one of the best defensive minded centers in the league?

Pek is a good center and he is not the problem.
Wait he wasn't? putting 10 rebs 2.6 blocks with 1.1 stls? Did you watch the Nuggets those years? Camby wasn't the guy from a couple of years after that, but he was definitely a defensive threat. Shit Camby was always known for his defense :rolleyes:

Pek is a great low post scorer, but defender?

[Go Getter]

Wait he wasn't? putting 10 rebs 2.6 blocks with 1.1 stls? Did you watch the Nuggets those years? Camby wasn't the guy from a couple of years after that, but he was definitely a defensive threat. Shit Camby was always known for his defense :rolleyes:

Pek is a great low post scorer, but defender?


Camby was always known for getting hurt. He wouldn't erase the fact that this team has a 6'10" primary scorer that would rather jack threes than get high percentage buckets in the paint.

[fragokota]

I'm not saying Love is at Lebron's level,but too many guys here judge him way too harsh.Give the guy a break, he plays in a "shitty" franchise with mediocre(at best) teamates. Heck just compare the teamates of both Aldridge and Griffin play with, and give the guy some credit. JEsus...........

[Go Getter]

I'm not saying Love is at Lebron's level,but too many guys here judge him way too harsh.Give the guy a break, he plays in a "shitty" franchise with mediocre(at best) teamates. Heck just compare the teamates of both Aldridge and Griffin play with, and give the guy some credit. JEsus...........
If he was great as people make him out to be the team would win more. The NBA is a league where ONE PLAYER can change a franchise. Love hasn't done that. Which is why I do't think he is a great player. Not saying he isn't very good but to put him up there with greats is not realistic at this point.

[Droid101]

I like how because his team is in the West, Love is overrated.

If the Wolves were in the East, they'd be a 3rd seed (they'd feast on the teams over there).

I guess geography makes Love put up "empty stats."

[clutchinho]

I like how because his team is in the West, Love is overrated.

If the Wolves were in the East, they'd be a 3rd seed (they'd feast on the teams over there).

I guess geography makes Love put up "empty stats."

TRUE OR FALSE

Throw Kevin Love and the current TWolves in the mid-2000s Eastern Conference, and they make the ECFs every single year.

[CelticBaller]

TRUE OR FALSE

Throw Kevin Love and the current TWolves in the mid-2000s Eastern Conference, and they make the ECFs every single year.
KG is way above Love, not even close.

[Go Getter]

I like how because his team is in the West, Love is overrated.

If the Wolves were in the East, they'd be a 3rd seed (they'd feast on the teams over there).

I guess geography makes Love put up "empty stats."
You gotta deal with what you gotta deal with.

I put the same expectations on John Wall. He HAS TO make the playoffs. True impact players make it happen by talent and sheer force of will.

The Suns and Nuggets are making it work. Why Can't the Wolves? A lion's share of the blame falls on Love/coach/Rubio [in that order imo].

[DMAVS41]

You gotta deal with what you gotta deal with.

I put the same expectations on John Wall. He HAS TO make the playoffs. True impact players make it happen by talent and sheer force of will.

The Suns and Nuggets are making it work. Why Can't the Wolves? A lion's share of the blame fall on Love/coach/Rubio [in that order imo].

This. There is just no way around it...if Love is really a superstar...he has to make the playoffs this year. There is no reason not to...

[clutchinho]

This. There is just no way around it...if Love is really a superstar...he has to make the playoffs this year. There is no reason not to...

Who's saying Love is a superstar? All I hear is empty stats. He's an all-star that posts up superstar numbers. That's where I rate him.

[highwhey]

they don't need star players because they have a balanced roster of above average-fringe star players with great pieces that fit well together

the wolves are literally just love and pekovic. martin can score but can't defend and shits the bed in the 4th quarter.

rubio can pass it up but his lack of shooting completely disrupts the flow of the game and is a big reason they've lost every single close game this season.

let's be real here, you and i both know the reason you call him overrated isn't related to his play :coleman:

Maybe it's just a hunch, but if he took time to improve his defense, he would win more games regardless of his surrounding cast. One important aspect that makes lebron great is his leadership, he doesn't always have a spectacular stat line bc he's more concerned on getting his teammates involved, this goes beyond love's outlet pass. Even with a fully healthy heat roster, I have strong doubts they would get past pacers if lebron had "average" defense.

I'll give love one more year to figure out how to make it to the playoffs.

[Go Getter]

Who's saying Love is a superstar? All I hear is empty stats. He's an all-star that posts up superstar numbers. That's where I rate him.

Man, the most important number is wins. Maybe he should expend more of that rebounding energy into his defense:confusedshrug:

[Lebron23]

Man, the most important number is wins. Maybe he should expend more of that rebounding energy into his defense:confusedshrug:


This. and he needs to show some leadership and clutch ability in the 4th quarter.

[atljonesbro]

Man, the most important number is wins. Maybe he should expend more of that rebounding energy into his defense:confusedshrug:
Ok he improves his D now what? They still lose the team is bad. Love does everything else in basketball at an elite level. Do you understand that or are you one of the kids who thinks Tony Allen who only does 1 thing has more impact than him?

[highwhey]

You gotta deal with what you gotta deal with.

I put the same expectations on John Wall. He HAS TO make the playoffs. True impact players make it happen by talent and sheer force of will.

The Suns and Nuggets are making it work. Why Can't the Wolves? A lion's share of the blame falls on Love/coach/Rubio [in that order imo].
There's no question the front office at Minnesota needs to do better work, but what bothers me is when ppl blame injuries and other things instead of realizing a superstar should be able to make it to the 1st round. The front office blame is justified once the team reached the playoffs but are unable to go further. If a seasoned love has to depend on other stars just to simply make the playoffs then he really isn't a superstar.

There's a huge difference between a contender and a playoff team.

[GASOL IS GOAT]

Gasol, Meeks, 2014 draft pick for Kevin Love. Get it done Mitch! !!

[Young X]

I put the same expectations on John Wall. He HAS TO make the playoffs. True impact players make it happen by talent and sheer force of will.Kareem missed the playoffs twice in a row in his prime on 38 win teams.

Oscar missed the playoffs 3 consecutive times in his prime.

KG missed the playoffs 3 consecutive times in his prime.

Barkley missed the playoffs twice in his prime.

Were they not "true impact players" either?

or...

Maybe they needed help from their sh!tty teammates?

Which sounds smarter?

[get these NETS]

@YoungX

"you're equivocating like a MFer"



a so called star who can't make playoffs in 2013-14 eastern conference ain't shit

[Go Getter]

Ok he improves his D now what? They still lose the team is bad. Love does everything else in basketball at an elite level. Do you understand that or are you one of the kids who thinks Tony Allen who only does 1 thing has more impact than him?

He improves his defense and he becomes a better leader and the team wins more games that's for sure.

He doesn't shoot free throws at an elite level. He does not score in the post at an elite level. Don't act like his [admittedly impressive] game does not have any wholes other than defense.

My thing is that you have to give the "star" player credit as well as blame. They get paid the most, they get the plays run around them, they take most of the shots, therefore they deserve the lion's share of the blame when things go wrong as well as when things go right.

If he hits a game winner or has a ridiculous triple double next week no one is going to give all the guys that set picks for him and hit him in the right spots and boxed out their man so he could go after boards any credit at all...they are going to fawn all over his statlines and disregard his teammates impact.

[get these NETS]

love would be a great complementary player paired with a perimeter star or superstar


wolves are asking him to do too much....good for fantasy stats but not for winning games

[Go Getter]

love would be a great complementary player paired with a perimeter star or superstar


wolves are asking him to do too much....good for fantasy stats but not for winning games


I find this to be accurate.