Rondo to pacers rumours swerling again

[Haks]

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/531445/20131223/boston-celtics-rajon-rondo.htm#.UrjI_PRdVo0

[The JKidd Kid]

No it's just speculation. Why would the best team in the league suddenly ruin the chemistry by brining in a ball dominant player mid season? Why would Boston trade Rondo when they can get much more than an expirer and a 28-30 pick for him?

It makes absolutely no sense.

[crunk-juice]

never ever going to happen, and if it does I will commit self murder



-Pacers fan

[longtime lurker]

No it's just speculation. Why would the best team in the league suddenly ruin the chemistry by brining in a ball dominant player mid season? Why would Boston trade Rondo when they can get much more than an expirer and a 28-30 pick for him?

It makes absolutely no sense.

Rondo and ruin chemistry? Never gonna happen.

[Black and White]

We would want more than an expirier an a super low pick for Rondo, we are gonna keep him and see how he goes when he gets back

[poido123]

No it's just speculation. Why would the best team in the league suddenly ruin the chemistry by brining in a ball dominant player mid season? Why would Boston trade Rondo when they can get much more than an expirer and a 28-30 pick for him?

It makes absolutely no sense.


Read the article. It will help you understand why.

[Black and White]

However if this trade goes through I would love to see the Heat fans reaction to it, Rondo with West + Hibbert as his bigs????? :bowdown:

[Levity]

with rondo's desire to win every season, i dont see how that can ruin the chemistry. he'd look sooooo good with dwest pick n pops and hibbert in the paint

[The JKidd Kid]

Read the article. It will help you understand why.

The article just says the generic things like pass first PG blah blah blah. It fails to mention that that pick will be in the 28-30 range, that Hill and Granger shouldn't be part of any ones rebuilding plan and that they could probably get a lot more for him. Also why on earth would the Pacers want to mess with what is a great team in the middle of the season if this was NBA 2k14, sure I'd do it, but this is real life where there is chemistry and players have to learn plays and about eachother. Rondo isn't just some player you can add in, this is a guy that is absolutely useless unless he has the ball in his hands. There is no reason for the Pacers or the Celtics to do this now.

[Black and White]

The article just says the generic things like pass first PG blah blah blah. It fails to mention that that pick will be in the 28-30 range, that Hill and Granger shouldn't be part of any ones rebuilding plan and that they could probably get a lot more for him. Also why on earth would the Pacers want to mess with what is a great team in the middle of the season if this was NBA 2k14, sure I'd do it, but this is real life where there is chemistry and players have to learn plays and about eachother. Rondo isn't just some player you can add in, this is a guy that is absolutely useless unless he has the ball in his hands. There is no reason for the Pacers or the Celtics to do this now.

Rondo with the ball in his hands would take the Pacers to another level, the offense would be much smoother and West and Hibbert would get even better looks than they do now because you have to respect Rondo on defense, a load of pressure would come of Paul George, they need someone like Rondo who has playoff experience to lead them.

[CelticBaller]

never ever going to happen, and if it does I will commit self murder



-Pacers fan
Yeah, get the Pacers one of the best PG, which helps fill their obvious gap that always get exposed against the heat and you want to kill yourself...:oldlol: :facepalm :facepalm

[Brizzly]

Rondo with the ball in his hands would take the Pacers to another level, the offense would be much smoother and West and Hibbert would get even better looks than they do now because you have to respect Rondo on defense, a load of pressure would come of Paul George, they need someone like Rondo who has playoff experience to lead them.


I agree they will struggle if they play Georgie 30+ minutes in the playoffs. Rondo may not score much and he have no range whatsoever but the man knows how to run the offense.

[poido123]

Rondo with the ball in his hands would take the Pacers to another level, the offense would be much smoother and West and Hibbert would get even better looks than they do now because you have to respect Rondo on defense, a load of pressure would come of Paul George, they need someone like Rondo who has playoff experience to lead them.

Rondo would be perfect for this gritty Pacers team. However, it will take him the rest of this year to get his bearings and the team to adjust to his style of play. It's great from a future titles standpoint, but not for this year.

[CelticBaller]

this is a guy that is absolutely useless unless he has the ball in his hands.
He's a PG, he's supposed to have the ball in his hands for most of the time :rolleyes:

It's not like George is good at being ball dominant either

[Black and White]

Rondo would be perfect for this gritty Pacers team. However, it will take him the rest of this year to get his bearings and the team to adjust to his style of play. It's great from a future titles standpoint, but not for this year.

Fair point, he's a warrior though, if this trade happens I honestly believe he is ready to go for the playoffs, all he has to do is feed the ball and put his team mates in positions to score, which is what his game is based on anyway.

[poido123]

He's a PG, he's supposed to have the ball in his hands for most of the time :rolleyes:

It's not like George is good at being ball dominant either

If anything, Rondo being ball dominant and George being less ball dominant would do wonders for that team. I like Paul George, but to me he looks over his head being a ball dominant player. I see similarities with Rose to George in that aspect.

[Rik Smits' Hair]

:confusedshrug:

[Black and White]

The article just says the generic things like pass first PG blah blah blah. It fails to mention that that pick will be in the 28-30 range, that Hill and Granger shouldn't be part of any ones rebuilding plan and that they could probably get a lot more for him. Also why on earth would the Pacers want to mess with what is a great team in the middle of the season if this was NBA 2k14, sure I'd do it, but this is real life where there is chemistry and players have to learn plays and about eachother. Rondo isn't just some player you can add in, this is a guy that is absolutely useless unless he has the ball in his hands. There is no reason for the Pacers or the Celtics to do this now.

And you are also forgetting what he brings on the defensive end, the Pacers are known as a good defensive team, you add Rondo to that defense? Please

[BlackVVaves]

Too good to be true. Pacers would have to get a third team involved to send the Celtics some more plausible pieces than Hill and George.

[CelticBaller]

And you are also forgetting what he brings on the defensive end, the Pacers are known as a good defensive team, you add Rondo to that defense? Please
He meant on offense, which is also stupid considering the main reason they need a PG is because they don't have a player that can exceed as a ball handler, well other than George.

[knickballer]

Don't think it's a good fit for the Pacers.

I think all the Pacers need at the PG position is a player who knock down his shots, play good defense and not turn the ball over. A primary ball handler would ruin the flow and chemistry of that offense and I don't think he can mesh with Paul George. Rondo is not an off-ball player and has a horrible shot.


They should be looking to get Goran Dragic instead. Most underrated player in the league and just as good as Rondo(maybe even better)

[Black and White]

He meant on offense, which is also stupid considering the main reason they need a PG is because they don't have a player that can exceed as a ball handler, well other than George.

:facepalm Why discredit the best pure point guard in the league??? If Rondo goes to the Pacers they are clear title favourites

[CelticBaller]

Don't think it's a good fit for the Pacers.

I think all the Pacers need at the PG position is a player who knock down his shots, play good defense and not turn the ball over. A primary ball handler would ruin the flow and chemistry of that offense and I don't think he can mesh with Paul George. Rondo is not an off-ball player and has a horrible shot.


They should be looking to get Goran Dragic instead. Most underrated player in the league and just as good as Rondo(maybe even better)
Dragic is not a better rebounder/defender than Rondo, but offensively he might be a better fit

[poido123]

And you are also forgetting what he brings on the defensive end, the Pacers are known as a good defensive team, you add Rondo to that defense? Please

Yeah. That team would get crazy good on defense adding Rondo.

Rondo is also a big game player, tenacious and will to win would certainly help a Pacers team that lose direction at times during a game.

[The JKidd Kid]

And you are also forgetting what he brings on the defensive end, the Pacers are known as a good defensive team, you add Rondo to that defense? Please

Yea that's great in NBA 2K14. This is the real life, you can't just magically insert a player into a team that will dramatically change everything. Why would you fix it if it isn't broke? This would be a great trade say in the offseason, but mid season when they're doing so well, do you really want to add in a new player and mess with that?

Also it's a terrible trade for the Celtics and I know no celtics fans are ok with a expiring contract and a pick that might as well be in the second round for their beloved star.

[Black and White]

Don't think it's a good fit for the Pacers.

I think all the Pacers need at the PG position is a player who knock down his shots, play good defense and not turn the ball over. A primary ball handler would ruin the flow and chemistry of that offense and I don't think he can mesh with Paul George. Rondo is not an off-ball player and has a horrible shot.


They should be looking to get Goran Dragic instead. Most underrated player in the league and just as good as Rondo(maybe even better)

:facepalm PG is the position where the Pacers are the weakest. He would be the perfect player for this team, Paul George would play much better if he has someone like Rondo calling the plays. The bigs would get better looks, Rondo is one of the best defensive PGs in the league, what more do you want?

Dragic is not on Rondo's level. Just stop.

[CelticBaller]

:facepalm Why discredit the best pure point guard in the league??? If Rondo goes to the Pacers they are clear title favourites
Welcome to ISH, where Rondo was a role player to the big 3, stat padder, and an overrated PG :rolleyes:

[The JKidd Kid]

He's a PG, he's supposed to have the ball in his hands for most of the time :rolleyes:

It's not like George is good at being ball dominant either

Kyrie, Curry, Williams, Paul, Westbrook etc.are all useful off the ball with their shooting.

Paul George isn't good at being the ball handler? Their record would say otherwise.

[CelticBaller]

Also it's a terrible trade for the Celtics and I know no celtics fans are ok with a expiring contract and a pick that might as well be in the second round for their beloved star.
Yeah, bring a 3rd team with high picks and I'm all on board :pimp:

[The JKidd Kid]

Welcome to ISH, where Rondo was a role player to the big 3, stat padder, and an overrated PG :rolleyes:

Well he was a role player to the big 3. Stat padding thing is absolute BS though.

[CelticBaller]

Paul George isn't good at being the ball handler? Their record would say otherwise.
He's not their main ball handler, and when he plays the heat it exposes that flaw.

[Black and White]

Yea that's great in NBA 2K14. This is the real life, you can't just magically insert a player into a team that will dramatically change everything. Why would you fix it if it isn't broke? This would be a great trade say in the offseason, but mid season when they're doing so well, do you really want to add in a new player and mess with that?

Also it's a terrible trade for the Celtics and I know no celtics fans are ok with a expiring contract and a pick that might as well be in the second round for their beloved star.

I don't believe we are getting enough back for him, but I am looking at it from a Pacers perspective, the notion that Rondo would cause chemistry issues is stupid, Rondo fills a massive void because there is times where the Pacers look lost and go stagnant on offense, Rondo is the type of player to step up, call a play and make that impact play, he ignites the offense, you can't just ignore that, its a great fit.

[The JKidd Kid]

He's not their main ball handler, and when he plays the heat it exposes that flaw.

I know he isn't, Stephenson and Hill are he's just the player you mentioned.

[CelticBaller]

Well he was a role player to the big 3. Stat padding thing is absolute BS though.
A man, back in 2010 people still believed that :oldlol:

[The JKidd Kid]

I don't believe we are getting enough back for him, but I am looking at it from a Pacers perspective, the notion that Rondo would cause chemistry issues is stupid, Rondo fills a massive void because there is times where the Pacers look lost and go stagnant on offense, Rondo is the type of player to step up, call a play and make that impact play, he ignites the offense, you can't just ignore that, its a great fit.

Again a great fit in the offseason that I would be all over if I were the Pacers. But you don't go dramatically changing a team doing this well in the middle of the season.

[Black and White]

Again a great fit in the offseason that I would be all over if I were the Pacers. But you don't go dramatically changing a team doing this well in the middle of the season.

It would work if they did it right now, don't forget Rondo is the player that took it to the Heat, are you forgetting how much he elevates his game in the post-season?? He's the exact player that can lead them past the Heat.

[Black and White]

Well he was a role player to the big 3. Stat padding thing is absolute BS though.

:roll: :roll: :roll: Are you serious?

The only time you can call him a role player was when they actually won the title that year, other than that, the big 3 themselves will tell you Rondo was the leader.

[CelticBaller]

It would work if they did it right now, don't forget Rondo is the player that took it to the Heat, are you forgetting how much he elevates his game in the post-season?? He's the exact player that can lead them past the Heat.
I have to disagree with you here, look at out 2010-2011 team and how it crumbled into pieces after we traded Perk and Nate. I have to say maybe by the offseason they'll get it together ,but not right away.

[The JKidd Kid]

:roll: :roll: :roll: Are you serious?

The only time you can call him a role player was when they actually won the title that year, other than that, the big 3 themselves will tell you Rondo was the leader.

Yea that's what I meant, back when they won the championship. Only a dumbass would try to pretend like he hasn't been the star for the past 4 years.

[Black and White]

I have to disagree with you here, look at out 2010-2011 team and how it crumbled into pieces after we traded Perk and Nate. I have to say maybe by the offseason they'll get it together ,but not right away.

It's a fair point, I just think he has grown as a player, and we are only in December so there is still 3 months for him to play with them (I think he comes back early Jan), it would be shaky but with West and Hibbert there the transition would be much easier than when Perk got traded.

[highwhey]

So only a few of us watched the ecf??

Pacers turn over the ball every other possession when playing the heat, and each t/o against lebron & co results in 2 immediate points. Sure you can pretend that PG will rise to lebrons level and run plays for the pacers...but we all know that's not going to happen and hill should not be starting as a ball handler on any contending team in this league. Some of you pacers fans are blind or hard headed, yall need a true point guard. Call me out on it if you'd like, pacers aren't going to beat a healthy miami with their current roster. Hill is garbage and is painful to watch when he brings up the ball, and paul george gets locked down by lebron.

Yall need rondo. I would love for this trade to happen bc pacers are my 2nd favorite team. it's so obvious indy would be on another level with a better ball handler/additional playmaker.

Paul george improved vastly you say? Sure looks like it, but it doesn't matter a bit bc lebron makes him a nonfactor. Pacers might be steamrolling other teams but they still have the same flaws as last year.

[BlackVVaves]

Yea that's great in NBA 2K14. This is the real life, you can't just magically insert a player into a team that will dramatically change everything. Why would you fix it if it isn't broke? This would be a great trade say in the offseason, but mid season when they're doing so well, do you really want to add in a new player and mess with that?

Also it's a terrible trade for the Celtics and I know no celtics fans are ok with a expiring contract and a pick that might as well be in the second round for their beloved star.

You must not have watched the Pacers the last two seasons. They have masterfully tried to cover their weakness of ball handling/play making ability from their point guards by making Stephenson a primary ball handler on the perimeter. The issue is, against a team like Miami, the Pacers need Stephenson to play more off the ball to be effective since Wade is such a great on the ball defender. And when that means putting the ball in Hill's hands...well. Look at last year's post-season. Or just last week.

If and when they lose to Miami in the playoffs, I'm certain one of the top 2 reasons will be incompetent point guard play.

They need to replace Hill in the starting lineup before it costs them more than a regular season game in Miami.

[wakencdukest]

I don't know how anyone can argue against Rondo on the Pacers? A pass first point guard that can penetrate at will and is an amazing on ball defender, If I was an Indiana fan, I'd be praying for this.

[veilside23]

rondo vs the heat :bowdown: even though jumpshot is crap ... a 100% rondo is a handful... Dude played with OLD KG, Pierce and ray.. am not saying that he has the same caliber of player but its not a wash... David west's Jumper will be wet.... Stephenson will be shooting them 3's like crazy... George will be less of a ball handler and can actually just dunkin on fools with alley oops... Hibert will be a superstar playing with rondo...

Dude is a pure hustle .... The defense of rondo should also be looked at... And intensity he brings... :cheers:

[DStebb716]

This website is a joke. It has reported three major trades (Griffin for Melo, Rondo to Sactown, Rondo to Indy) that just aren't going to happen. They're throwing shit at the wall.

[mark]

never ever going to happen, and if it does I will commit self murder



-Pacers fan

They need to get this done now. Get rid of granger, pick up Rondo.