View Full Version : Put Kobe's Brain In Lebron's Body...
Foster5k
12-24-2013, 06:21 PM
Does Lebron become better or worse?
G-Funk
12-24-2013, 06:23 PM
Greatest player of all-time
Purch
12-24-2013, 06:23 PM
Becomes a better scorer, but becomes worse as a player.
G-Funk
12-24-2013, 06:24 PM
30/8/5
Mr. Jabbar
12-24-2013, 06:24 PM
i dont think they would survive the surgery
ispin69
12-24-2013, 06:31 PM
Brains of a chucker shooting 3 feet behind the 3pt line or with 3 guys in his face and trying to shoot over them. :oldlol:
Marchesk
12-24-2013, 06:33 PM
Brains of a chucker shooting 3 feet behind the 3pt line or with 3 guys in his face and trying to shoot over them. :oldlol:
But he would be dunking on Hibbert in that body.
Hoopz2332
12-24-2013, 06:34 PM
worse...chucking non passing and anti clutch. Noone would want to play with him:oldlol:
Mr. Jabbar
12-24-2013, 06:36 PM
Brains of a chucker shooting 3 feet behind the 3pt line or with 3 guys in his face and trying to shoot over them. :oldlol:
this hater :facepalm
one thing fo sure, 2011 would have been won by the heat
also whats up with leaving kobes body with lebrons peanut, that shits hideous
Basically what that means is Lebron taking many more shots and playmaking less... offensive possessions being majority individual shots.... its kindof logical to believe he would average dare i say.... closer to 40 ppg rather than 30 ppg.... especially if he goes Kobe 05-06 (27 FGA)....
It would be very fun to watch......... but since he doesnt use his teammates, which means initially ignoring higher success/percentage shots, ignoring to make the RIGHT PLAY... and since this is a team game, i doubt his team would be more successful....
What the hell is this? Lebron is a very smart basketball player. There is a reason why he shots 60% and averages 7 assists a game. He knows exactly which shots to take and which ones to avoid.
Ya'll act as if his athleticism is why he's so good. I'm sorry, but there are plenty of athletic guys in the league but none of them know how to score 25 ppg on 60% while having PG skills.
SCdac
12-24-2013, 06:39 PM
Lebron's ego and selfishness is already big enough...
noob cake
12-24-2013, 06:39 PM
Worse, you'll lose clutchness and court vision.
Mr. Jabbar
12-24-2013, 06:39 PM
Basically what that means is Lebron taking many more shots and playmaking less... offensive possessions being majority individual shots.... its kindof logical to believe he would average dare i say.... closer to 40 ppg rather than 30 ppg.... especially if he goes Kobe 05-06 (27 FGA)....
But since he doesnt use his teammates, which means initially ignoring higher success/percentage shots, ignoring to make the RIGHT PLAY... and since this is a team game, i doubt his team would be more successful....
it also means lebron would take over games when it matters instead of tossing da hawt potato, that stuff right there has cost them more games i can remember
G-Funk
12-24-2013, 06:43 PM
Lebron would become the biggest miss match ever, too bad he can't post for shit.
Bandito
12-24-2013, 06:45 PM
Next MJ
Bandito
12-24-2013, 06:46 PM
Basically what that means is Lebron taking many more shots and playmaking less... offensive possessions being majority individual shots.... its kindof logical to believe he would average dare i say.... closer to 40 ppg rather than 30 ppg.... especially if he goes Kobe 05-06 (27 FGA)....
It would be very fun to watch......... but since he doesnt use his teammates, which means initially ignoring higher success/percentage shots, ignoring to make the RIGHT PLAY... and since this is a team game, i doubt his team would be more successful....
He only won 5 rings by playing that way though.:rolleyes:
tpols
12-24-2013, 06:49 PM
If Bron had the focus to develop midrange/post game in that body... hed be literally unstoppable.
DonDadda59
12-24-2013, 06:50 PM
47% shooting as his absolute best ceiling, instead of being one of his worst.
moe94
12-24-2013, 06:51 PM
47% shooting as his absolute best ceiling, instead of being one of his worst.
Better PPG.:confusedshrug:
tpols
12-24-2013, 06:55 PM
Basically what that means is Lebron taking many more shots and playmaking less... offensive possessions being majority individual shots.... its kindof logical to believe he would average dare i say.... closer to 40 ppg rather than 30 ppg.... especially if he goes Kobe 05-06 (27 FGA)....
It would be very fun to watch......... but since he doesnt use his teammates, which means initially ignoring higher success/percentage shots, ignoring to make the RIGHT PLAY... and since this is a team game, i doubt his team would be more successful....
Kobe chases scoring records in the regular season.. but tones it down in the playoffs because he knows the whole team has to be in sync to win there. Much like Bron conserves FG in regular season but has to actually take tough shots in the playoffs.
In 05-06 kobe took the 27 FGAs in the regular season but only took 20 a game in the playoffs.
DonDadda59
12-24-2013, 06:56 PM
Better PPG.:confusedshrug:
Who has the higher career PPG again? :confusedshrug:
Bandito
12-24-2013, 06:57 PM
47% shooting as his absolute best ceiling, instead of being one of his worst.
He would probably slash more because he can. Also he would be better in the post because he would be bigger and stronger and could do more damage than he does now.
Teams like the Spurs could not leave him open and wish for him to miss because Kobron would be unstoppable from outside. Also he wouldn't quit on his team in 2011 and would probably destroyed Shawn.
NumberSix
12-24-2013, 07:03 PM
He only won 5 rings by playing that way though.:rolleyes:
And Derek Fisher won 5 rings playing his way.
Human Error
12-24-2013, 07:08 PM
Coach K, during the Team USA scrimmages, said that Lebron is the smartest player that he has ever coached, and he is the guy that has coached Grant Hill. He even refused to use the term "smart", he used "brilliant". There is a reason why teams that have Lebron as a primary option always play to their strengths and even make their scrubs look great. Because of Lebron, people say the current Miami Heat that starts Chalmers and Battier, quite possibly 2 worst startere in their respective positions, are stacked. Lebron's body with Kobe's brains will score more but with less efficiency and his overall impact on both ends will significantly decrease and become worse as a player.
Bandito
12-24-2013, 07:11 PM
And Derek Fisher won 5 rings playing his way.
And Shaq won 4, Gasol won 2 and Horry won 7. What's your point? He contributed in his 'chucking' 'ballhog' ways and they still won. So I don't think he's a bad player at all.
Heavincent
12-24-2013, 07:12 PM
What the hell is this? Lebron is a very smart basketball player. There is a reason why he shots 60% and averages 7 assists a game. He knows exactly which shots to take and which ones to avoid.
In the regular season. There's only a 2% difference between Kobe and Lebron in the playoffs :confusedshrug:
Heavincent
12-24-2013, 07:13 PM
47% shooting as his absolute best ceiling, instead of being one of his worst.
That's Lebron's career FG% in the playoffs :confusedshrug:
Bandito
12-24-2013, 07:15 PM
Coach K, during the Team USA scrimmages, said that Lebron is the smartest player that he has ever coached, and he is the guy that has coached Grant Hill. He even refused to use the term "smart", he used "brilliant". There is a reason why teams that have Lebron as a primary option always play to their strengths and even make their scrubs look great. Because of Lebron, people say the current Miami Heat that starts Chalmers and Battier, quite possibly 2 worst startere in their respective positions, are stacked. Lebron's body with Kobe's brains will score more but with less efficiency and his overall impact on both ends will significantly decrease and become worse as a player.
He can't have the same team, he would probably need either a great playmaker (Kidd or Nash) or a great center (Shaq, Gasol). That much is obvious. Basketball is nor played alone.
Lebron needs great perimeter players to be considered good.
Every player have their strength and their weaknesses.
NumberSix
12-24-2013, 07:15 PM
And Shaq won 4, Gasol won 2 and Horry won 7. What's your point? He contributed in his 'chucking' 'ballhog' ways and they still won. So I don't think he's a bad player at all.
Who has ever said that Kobe Bryant is a bad basketball player? :wtf:
#strawman
Quickening
12-24-2013, 07:16 PM
I like how people are acting as if Kobe moving into a bigger body would only be an advantage... there is a reason Lebrons size tend to struggle with playmaking and shooting.
Lebron body and basketball brain are better than Kobes, would only result in a worse player putting Kobes brain in Lebrons body
Bandito
12-24-2013, 07:16 PM
Who has ever said that Kobe Bryant is a bad basketball player? :wtf:
#strawman
Good point.:lol
I just deduced what you were going for. Either way, i shouldn't have done that.
TheReal Kendall
12-24-2013, 07:45 PM
Kobe's brain won't help Lebron hit wide open jumpers.
Just give Lebron, Kobe's jumper and he'll be the GOAT
it also means lebron would take over games when it matters instead of tossing da hawt potato, that stuff right there has cost them more games i can remember
It has cost games... but has won even more.... and the question always is, was it the right play? If it is then you can live with that... but ignoring the wideopen shooter (or the greatest shooter of all time) or the wideopen teammate right under the basket just because your ego tells you to take the shot yourself.... is just stupid, selfish....
Smart basketball always wins more games unfortunately.... and you cant be on fire every single night to take over games that way...... but you can ALWAYS take over games by setting up/creating benovelent shots for everybody....
Pass when you have to... see a wideopen pure shooter? Cool, dont you maybe think he might logically have a better chance of making that shot?
See ANYBODY who has a better chance of making a shot? Like lets say a guy right under the basket? Cool, how about passing him the ball?
Shoot when you have to... cant create/see a higher percentage shot for anybody? You are on fire? Cool, go ahead......
Do you want to do anything necessary to maximize your teams chances to WIN like that......
or...
Do you want to try play hero-ball all the time, sacrificing many games....
That is the question................
As a bonus for your unselfishness your teammates chemistry will be nothing but love resulting with harder efforts & work ethics as you lead by that example, especially when they see the results which lately has been nothing but championships.......
JABBAR... You being a Laker fan, knowing who your most successful Laker player ever was (Magic) who won games playing the game this way, THE RIGHT WAY... kindof surprises me you dont know how much more successful that Magic ball style of play is compared to Kobe ball........
longtime lurker
12-24-2013, 08:38 PM
One of the greatest work ethics with the greatest basketball body. Yeah I think it's safe to say the guy would be even better.
K Xerxes
12-24-2013, 08:41 PM
^Lol, where is the evidence that Kobe has a greater work ethic than LeBron? Just typical stringing words together without any proof.
HoopsFanNumero1
12-24-2013, 08:43 PM
Lebron has a higher basketball IQ than Kobe, so this would undoubtedly make him a worse player.
moe94
12-24-2013, 08:44 PM
^Lol, where is the evidence that Kobe has a greater work ethic than LeBron? Just typical stringing words together without any proof.
He has "killer instinct" and "clutch gene" and "ability to take over when needed" and "will to win". :pimp:
longtime lurker
12-24-2013, 08:44 PM
^Lol, where is the evidence that Kobe has a greater work ethic than LeBron? Just typical stringing words together without any proof.
Umm Kobe's work ethic is legendary, not saying Lebron's is shit by any means but Kobe as he is now has a more complete game offensively than Lebron. There's no way in hell any team is letting Kobe shoot open jumpers in the finals.
Bandito
12-24-2013, 08:45 PM
It has cost games... but has won even more.... and the question always is, was it the right play? If it is then you can live with that... but ignoring the wideopen shooter (or the greatest shooter of all time) or the wideopen teammate right under the basket just because your ego tells you to take the shot yourself.... is just stupid, selfish....
Smart basketball always wins more games unfortunately.... and you cant be on fire every single night to take over games that way...... but you can ALWAYS take over games by setting up/creating benovelent shots for everybody....
Pass when you have to... see a wideopen pure shooter? Cool, dont you maybe think he might logically have a better chance of making that shot?
See ANYBODY who has a better chance of making a shot? Like lets say a guy right under the basket? Cool, how about passing him the ball?
Shoot when you have to... cant create/see a higher percentage shot for anybody? You are on fire? Cool, go ahead......
Do you want to do anything necessary to maximize your teams chances to WIN like that......
or...
Do you want to try play hero-ball all the time, sacrificing many games....
That is the question................
As a bonus for your unselfishness your teammates chemistry will be nothing but love resulting with harder efforts & work ethics as you lead by that example, especially when they see the results which lately has been nothing but championships.......
JABBAR... You being a Laker fan, knowing who your most successful Laker player ever was (Magic) who won games playing the game this way, THE RIGHT WAY... kindof surprises me you dont know how much more successful that Magic ball style of play is compared to Kobe ball........How many rings did both player contributed to both their teams? His 'hero ball' win and lose some games but that is part of playing basketball and the risk of that shot. Kobe was successful with his style of play as Magic was with his and Lebron is with his right now. There is no right or wrong here.
Hoopz2332
12-24-2013, 08:47 PM
Umm Kobe's work ethic is legendary, not saying Lebron's is shit by any means but Kobe as he is now has a more complete game offensively than Lebron. There's no way in hell any team is letting Kobe shoot open jumpers in the finals.
lebron's work ethic is so great that he does this
http://i.imgur.com/MSxapXD.jpg
this years he's at basically 60fg%:bowdown:
Bandito
12-24-2013, 08:48 PM
^Lol, where is the evidence that Kobe has a greater work ethic than LeBron? Just typical stringing words together without any proof.
In order for Lebron to be the way he is, there is no way he doesn't practice hard. He doesn't seem to coast at all. He is a mixture of god like genes mixed with hard work.
Kobe has good genes too but Lebron is on another world. Kobe just mastered the little things needed for him to still be a legend.
longtime lurker
12-24-2013, 08:49 PM
lebron's work ethic is so great that he does this
http://i.imgur.com/MSxapXD.jpg
this years he's at basically 60fg%:bowdown:
That's impressive. Don't know what it has to do with anything but hey good for you!
3LiftHeatCurse
12-24-2013, 08:51 PM
Terrible.
The Heat would break up by next season. KobeBron would run off Wade and Bosh.
K Xerxes
12-24-2013, 08:59 PM
Umm Kobe's work ethic is legendary, not saying Lebron's is shit by any means but Kobe as he is now has a more complete game offensively than Lebron. There's no way in hell any team is letting Kobe shoot open jumpers in the finals.
So more complete offensively = more work ethic?
I mean, you don't think LeBron throws up a million jumpshots in the gym and has been doing for years to improve his jumpshot?
Some people just aren't as talented at shooting, LeBron being one of them. Not surprising considering he grew up as a PG, and then started utilising his dominant body to attack the rim over undersized kids. Kobe grew up having to hoist up millions of shots, and he's got the touch.
That doesn't necessarily mean Kobe works harder. I mean, he might do, but we don't know.
LeBron's body isn't just athleticism. Some people act like he's a 6'8 250lb sack of meat that lives off his talent. I don't think people realise the work he puts in to maintaining that level of physique, and that's just the start.
Both these guys work hard. Harder than anyone else. Ultimately that's what makes them two of the greatest players ever.
NumberSix
12-24-2013, 09:04 PM
So more complete offensively = more work ethic?
I mean, you don't think LeBron throws up a million jumpshots in the gym and has been doing for years to improve his jumpshot?
Some people just aren't as talented at shooting, LeBron being one of them. Not surprising considering he grew up as a PG, and then started utilising his dominant body to attack the rim over undersized kids. Kobe grew up having to hoist up millions of shots, and he's got the touch.
That doesn't necessarily mean Kobe works harder. I mean, he might do, but we don't know.
LeBron's body isn't just athleticism. Some people act like he's a 6'8 250lb sack of meat that lives off his talent. I don't think people realise the work he puts in to maintaining that level of physique, and that's just the start.
Both these guys work hard. Harder than anyone else. Ultimately that's what makes them two of the greatest players ever.
I wouldn't say Kobe is a complete player offensively. He's too much of a "one or the other" type of player. Either he'll go out and have 13 assists and low scoring numbers or 30 points and 3 assists. For whatever reason, his mind works in a predetermined way where he's gonna decide how he's going to play before the game starts. He doesn't play on the fly offensively.
Hoopz2332
12-24-2013, 09:06 PM
That's impressive. Don't know what it has to do with anything but hey good for you!
it shows that he's puts in work in the gym:oldlol:
tpols
12-24-2013, 09:12 PM
it shows that he's puts in work in the gym:oldlol:
No.. it shows that he has become more and more particular about choosing his shots and playing as efficiently as possible.
What area of Lebron's game has he worked on that has improved his game from 50% shooting in 09ish to 60% now? Nothing.. His shooting is still up and down.. midrange is still weak.. and his driving ability is still amazing.
The only reasons he shoots better now is because he doesnt have to shoulder as much an offensive burden with Wade/Allen/Bosh as he had to with boobie/west/varejo and can thus pick and choose his spots easier. Which is why when Wade and Bosh got hurt/dissapeared in the playoffs he couldnt maintain his FG because he could no longer afford to wait for opportunities and had to create them instead.
IDK if Lebron has spent as much time in the gym or workout room as Kobe.. but one things for sure, Kobe definitely had the focus to fine tune his skills and movements more than Bron. He might not have practiced more(though he probably did) but he definitely practiced better and smarter with more focus.
It's a fact that Kobe is a more skilled and refined basketball player than Bron.. hes just not near the same level of athlete and no one really is.
RoundMoundOfReb
12-24-2013, 09:16 PM
worse
JohnnyA
12-24-2013, 09:17 PM
What area of Lebron's game has he worked on that has improved his game from 50% shooting in 09ish to 60% now? Nothing.. His shooting is still up and down.. midrange is still weak.. and his driving ability is still amazing.
Shot selection? :)
But seriously LeBrons post game has improved. Not saying its elite, or even where you would expect it to be, but it has certainly improved over the last two years.
tpols
12-24-2013, 09:19 PM
Shot selection? :)
But seriously LeBrons post game has improved. Not saying its elite, or even where you would expect it to be, but it has certainly improved over the last two years.
Yea I agree.. but the main reason for his improved shooting is hes extra picky with his shot selection because he can afford to be on this team, not because hes acquired more and more skills over the years.
SamuraiSWISH
12-24-2013, 09:22 PM
For whatever reason, his mind works in a predetermined way where he's gonna decide how he's going to play before the game starts. He doesn't play on the fly offensively.
I've always felt this way.
Hoopz2332
12-24-2013, 09:24 PM
No.. it shows that he has become more and more particular about choosing his shots and playing as efficiently as possible.
What area of Lebron's game has he worked on that has improved his game from 50% shooting in 09ish to 60% now? Nothing.. His shooting is still up and down.. midrange is still weak.. and his driving ability is still amazing.
yeah, a guy that has become elite at spot shooting doesn't put in work in the gym:lol Read this and stfu...
He crushed the rest of the league in PER last season with a 31.7, just shy of his career high. He shot a ridiculous 56.5 percent from the field. He scored more points in the paint per game than anybody else in the league. He dished out more assists than most point guards. He registered a higher rebound rate than Marc Gasol and Robin Lopez. Defensively, he's tall, quick and strong enough to guard just about anyone in the league, and he almost did.
And if all that wasn't enough, consider this: He now wields one of the most potent jumpers in the league. Only Jose Calderon averaged more points per spot-up play than James, according to Synergy Sports.
Most efficient spot-up players, 2012-13 regular season(Min. 100 plays)
Player Plays Points PPP
Jose Calderon 187 281 1.50
LeBron James 143 195 1.36
Kyle Korver 224 301 1.34
Steve Nash 114 153 1.32
Stephen Curry 226 294 1.30
James' name pops up near the top of all the jump-shot leaderboards for last season. And that includes the unguarded catch-and-shoot category, in which he effectively shot 73.1 percent once you account for the added value of 3s. Only five players were more lethal with open shots. While he couldn't find his shot in the Finals until the very end, he ended up converting 37.5 percent of his 3s in the postseason, which is well above average. (For perspective, Kevin Durant shot 31.3 percent from deep in the playoffs.)
:biggums: all the other people he's with on this list are known as snipers
tpols
12-24-2013, 09:29 PM
yeah, a guy that has become elite at spot shooting doesn't put in work in the gym:lol Read this and stfu...
:biggums:
Where did I say Lebron didnt put work in the gym?:oldlol:
Lebron could've put more work in the gym than 95% of people to ever lay their hands on a basketball.. and he would still be behind guys like jordan/kobe/bird in that regard.
Your claim that Lebron's rise in FG percentage is due solely to him gaining new skills every year is preposterous. His elite shooting in 2012-2013 was badly exposed in the Finals.. again its up and down. Bron doesnt even touch the midrange right now.. hes scared of it because it is technically the most risky shot if youre trying to preserve efficiency. But it is the most critical shot to have when it matters.. which is why he ran into problems.
Are you really trying to assert that Bron shooting 3s more efficently is the reason hes shooting 60% from the field? He shoots 40% from 3 lol.. its a negative for his FG actually. The reason hes shooting 60% from the field is because his volume has decreased every year as he has focused on becoming as efficient as possible. Very little to do with adding new skills.
If he just stopped taking 3s altogether and went down to 22ppg he could be shooting 65% perhaps.. and it would have nothing to do with him gaining any new skills.
SamuraiSWISH
12-24-2013, 09:31 PM
His elite shooting in 2012-2013 was badly exposed in the Finals.. again its up and down. Bron doesnt even touch the midrange right now.. hes scared of it because it is technically the most risky shot if youre trying to preserve efficiency. But it is the most critical shot to have when it matters.. which is why he ran into problems.
:applause:
AintNoSunshine
12-24-2013, 09:39 PM
Most forceful unstoppable scary rapist of all time
kurple
12-24-2013, 09:46 PM
imagine how many white chicks he could rape with lebron's strength :eek: :eek:
Hoopz2332
12-24-2013, 09:51 PM
Your claim that Lebron's rise in FG percentage is due solely to him gaining new skills every year is preposterous. His elite shooting in 2012-2013 was badly exposed in the Finals.. again its up and down.
he wasn't exposed...it was a matter of not falling into what the defense wanted him to do (spurs) vs taking the shots YOU WANT (Pacers). The shots vs the Spurs were the same ones he hit all series vs the pacers and with tougher defense.
lebron 2012-2013
http://i.imgur.com/Utxfo2n.jpg
kobe 2012-2013
http://i.imgur.com/FSbwrem.png
Bron doesnt even touch the midrange right now.. hes scared of it because it is technically the most risky shot if youre trying to preserve efficiency. But it is the most critical shot to have when it matters.. which is why he ran into problems.
he's not "scared" of it. Dude can get in the paint all day if you guard him, so why settle for a mid range shot? He basically beat Spurs in game 7 with nothing but mid rangers
http://2.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/71/17/b47c459d689f0eebc9d74ac7c9ef72af-every-lebron-game-7-basket-in-one-gif.gif
Are you really trying to assert that Bron shooting 3s more efficently is the reason hes shooting 60% from the field? He shoots 40% from 3 lol.. its a negative for his FG actually.
His increase in 3pt shooting helps set up his drive/paint game.
The reason hes shooting 60% from the field is because his volume has decreased every year as he has focused on becoming as efficient as possible. Very little to do with adding new skills.
His added post game and spot shooting help him get in the paint easier for higher % shots. His volume outside of this season isn't that different from his typical shot attempts
http://i.imgur.com/05Rm9tg.png
If he just stopped taking 3s altogether and went down to 22ppg he could be shooting 65% perhaps.. and it would have nothing to do with him gaining any new skills.
see above post
tpols
12-24-2013, 10:05 PM
he wasn't exposed...it was a matter of not falling into what the defense wanted him to do (spurs) vs taking the shots YOU WANT (Pacers). The shots vs the Spurs were the same ones he hit all series vs the pacers and with tougher defense.
I dont get what you're saying here.. if he took the same shots against the pacers that he did versus the spurs how would you classify them as not being the ones he wanted against SAS but somehow they were the ones he wanted against the pacers? If theyre the same shots why would he be terrified in one series of them but gracious for them in another?
Point is Lebron is an up and down shooter.. he is not elite in that regard.
he's not "scared" of it. Dude can get in the paint all day if you guard him, so why settle for a mid range shot? He basically beat Spurs in game 7 with nothing but mid rangers
http://2.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/71/17/b47c459d689f0eebc9d74ac7c9ef72af-every-lebron-game-7-basket-in-one-gif.gif
Yea.. after 6 games of having them concede him those shots. He was scared shitless before that game and actually had his team in a position to lose because of it, if not for a 3 ball that was a pure stroke of luck.
Why settle for the midrange shot you ask? For the same reason he 'settled' for it in his game 7 performance. It was a wide open jumper and had a statically higher chance of going in then charging at an opponent that was waiting for you to drive.
His increase in 3pt shooting helps set up his drive/paint game.
No its the other way around. His driving game is what scares defenses and forces them to play off him, which in turn gives him near wide open looks.
His added post game and spot shooting help him get in the paint easier for higher % shots. His volume outside of this season isn't that different from his typical shot attempts
Id like to see the data on his post game from 2011 through today to see the effect its having. I'd wager that his decrease in volume every year, increase in teammate strength, and absurd finishing rate with the defense not being able to be as focused on him with all the other weapons around are much more important factors..
SewerUrchin
12-24-2013, 10:05 PM
http://i39.tinypic.com/2dhe7vc.png
Somebody photoshop this with LeBron's head.
http://www.luoldeng.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/spt-111225-lakers-bulls513.nbcsports-story-612.jpg
inclinerator
12-24-2013, 10:59 PM
http://i.imgur.com/LeYdCTA.jpg
magnax1
12-24-2013, 11:30 PM
Does anyone legitely think Lebon would be worse? That's legitimately idiotic. Stick you in a sanitarium level retarded. Kobe is far more skilled then Lebron, and far smarter. You could say his shot selection is worse, but he wouldn't be taking 20 footers like he does now in Lebrons body. Hell he didn't take the same shots back in 03 when he was a good athlete and he still wasn't anywhere near Lebron athletically.
Noob Saibot
12-24-2013, 11:34 PM
Kobe in LeBron's body? better athlete but worser basketball IQ.
TheMarkMadsen
12-25-2013, 01:00 AM
Kobe in LeBron's body? better athlete but worser basketball IQ.
:no:
HoopsFanNumero1
12-25-2013, 01:01 AM
Does anyone legitely think Lebon would be worse? That's legitimately idiotic. Stick you in a sanitarium level retarded. Kobe is far more skilled then Lebron, and far smarter. You could say his shot selection is worse, but he wouldn't be taking 20 footers like he does now in Lebrons body. Hell he didn't take the same shots back in 03 when he was a good athlete and he still wasn't anywhere near Lebron athletically.
Explain.
zoom17
12-25-2013, 01:02 AM
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/585051/lebron-james-dancing-warm-ups-o.gif
knicksman
12-25-2013, 01:54 AM
lebron might be as smart as kobe but he doesnt have the passion of kobe. Thats why lebron formed a superteam coz hes not that confident in his skills. His skills is for popularity purposes while kobe is for winning.
cos88
12-25-2013, 02:36 AM
it would be scary, he would be like batman's biggest enemy ... a 6'8 250 rapist
Trollsmasher
12-25-2013, 02:40 AM
Well, when you make someone half as clever as before, he is hardly going to be better.
NumberSix
12-25-2013, 03:03 AM
lebron might be as smart as kobe but he doesnt have the passion of kobe. Thats why lebron formed a superteam coz hes not that confident in his skills. His skills is for popularity purposes while kobe is for winning.
Kobe has been on super teams all but 3 seasons of his career. LeBron or Jordan would have about 12 rings if they were in Kobe's place.
Vienceslav
12-25-2013, 03:56 AM
Kobe has been on super teams all but 3 seasons of his career. LeBron or Jordan would have about 12 rings if they were in Kobe's place.
12?Try 52.
Round Mound
12-25-2013, 03:57 AM
45% FG On Like 20 FGAs PG.
An Inefficient Scorer :confusedshrug:
moe94
12-25-2013, 04:00 AM
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/585051/lebron-james-dancing-warm-ups-o.gif
:biggums:
Round Mound
12-25-2013, 04:01 AM
he wasn't exposed...it was a matter of not falling into what the defense wanted him to do (spurs) vs taking the shots YOU WANT (Pacers). The shots vs the Spurs were the same ones he hit all series vs the pacers and with tougher defense.
lebron 2012-2013
http://i.imgur.com/Utxfo2n.jpg
kobe 2012-2013
http://i.imgur.com/FSbwrem.png
he's not "scared" of it. Dude can get in the paint all day if you guard him, so why settle for a mid range shot? He basically beat Spurs in game 7 with nothing but mid rangers
http://2.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/71/17/b47c459d689f0eebc9d74ac7c9ef72af-every-lebron-game-7-basket-in-one-gif.gif
His increase in 3pt shooting helps set up his drive/paint game.
His added post game and spot shooting help him get in the paint easier for higher % shots. His volume outside of this season isn't that different from his typical shot attempts
http://i.imgur.com/05Rm9tg.png
see above post
:applause:
knicksman
12-25-2013, 04:10 AM
Kobe has been on super teams all but 3 seasons of his career. LeBron or Jordan would have about 12 rings if they were in Kobe's place.
LOL lebron cant even win against the mavs. and kobe delivered until his alphaness took over. Something lebron doesnt have
NumberSix
12-25-2013, 04:56 AM
LOL lebron cant even win against the mavs. and kobe delivered until his alphaness took over. Something lebron doesnt have
Did Kobe not lose to the exact same Mavs like 2 weeks earlier? :confusedshrug:
knicksman
12-25-2013, 05:20 AM
Did Kobe not lose to the exact same Mavs like 2 weeks earlier? :confusedshrug:
theyre past their prime though
I wouldn't say Kobe is a complete player offensively. He's too much of a "one or the other" type of player. Either he'll go out and have 13 assists and low scoring numbers or 30 points and 3 assists. For whatever reason, his mind works in a predetermined way where he's gonna decide how he's going to play before the game starts. He doesn't play on the fly offensively.
You mean, Kobe reads what the offense is giving him?
Soundwave
12-25-2013, 01:56 PM
It'd probably be a net win for Kobe because he has better footwork and a post up game, but he would lose foot speed and agility, as a 6'9 guy simply isn't going to be as fast as a 6'5/6'6 player (provided that they're both good athletes to begin with).
DonDadda59
12-25-2013, 02:08 PM
Lebron's basketball IQ is considerably higher than Bean's. So all you'd get from a brain transplant is a shot-jacking Lebron who couldn't shoot higher than 47% in nearly 2 decades :lol
It'd just be a dumber, much less clutch, chucking Lebron. But he'd have a mean underbite/scowl doe.
Straight_Ballin
12-25-2013, 02:23 PM
Does Lebron become better or worse?
If anything, you put Jordan's brain in LeBron. If you're going to do something, do it right.
SilkkTheShocker
12-25-2013, 03:39 PM
Put LeBron's brain in Kobe's body and the Lakers win at least 2-3 more titles during the Shaq era.
Mr. Jabbar
12-25-2013, 03:54 PM
Put LeBron's brain in Kobe's body and the Lakers win at least 2-3 more titles during the Shaq era.
allen iverson, jason kidd, regie miller would have 1x finals mvp
SilkkTheShocker
12-25-2013, 04:04 PM
allen iverson, jason kidd, regie miller would have 1x finals mvp
All those teams aside from Indy were overmatched. Shaq did whatever he wanted. And you don't think LeBron in 04 wins the title with the Lakers? Hate to break it to you, but the Shaq Lakers would have absolutely won more with LeBron over Kobe.
MetsPackers
12-25-2013, 04:06 PM
Kobe would finally be better than lebron alltime
chosen_one6
12-25-2013, 04:17 PM
LOL lebron cant even win against the mavs. and kobe
delivered until his alphaness took over. Something lebron doesnt have
But he beat the Thunder and the Spurs, two teams that were arguably better.
knicksman
12-25-2013, 07:13 PM
But he beat the Thunder and the Spurs, two teams that were arguably better.
spurs that were pretenders since 2008? or thunder w/c is an incomplete team?
Magic 32
12-25-2013, 07:25 PM
you don't think LeBron in 04 wins the title with the Lakers?
http://i.imgur.com/V24RcLp.gif
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