obamacare question

[netsfan549]

Ive medical insurance thru my job. Can I apply for dental insurance thru Obamacare? Thank you

[KevinNYC]

Ive medical insurance thru my job. Can I apply for dental insurance thru Obamacare? Thank you

I don't think so. Haven't heard anything about dental.

[NumberSix]

Obamacare is the definition of fascism.

[Droid101]

Obamacare is the definition of fascism.
:lol Considering the Affordable Care Act was a product of the Heritage Foundation, a Republican Conservative group.

:roll:

You're a ****ing clown.

Also, what a ****ing pathetic year-old bump.

You are an idiot.

[Droid101]

Ive medical insurance thru my job. Can I apply for dental insurance thru Obamacare? Thank you
Anyway, to answer the thread despite stupid trolling, it depends.

Are you covering a child under 10? Then the business has to cover their dental. If they are saying they don't, we need more information. Are they a big company? How many employees? Help us figure out the situation and we can help you get the biggest bang for your buck.

[BlkMambaGOAT]

Meanwhile in Canada...


:djparty:dancin :hammertime:
:party::party::party::party::party:

[NumberSix]

:lol Considering the Affordable Care Act was a product of the Heritage Foundation, a Republican Conservative group.

:roll:

You're a ****ing clown.

Also, what a ****ing pathetic year-old bump.

You are an idiot.


An inherent aspect of fascist economies was economic dirigisme, meaning an economy where the government exerts strong directive influence, and effectively controls production and allocation of resources. In general, apart from the nationalizations of some industries, fascist economies were based on private property and private initiative, but these were contingent upon service to the state.

The state FORCING citizens to purchase the product of a private corporation is definitive fascism.

Obamacare = the state forcing citizens to purchase insurance from private insurance corporations.


Obamacare = fascism.

[Droid101]

The state FORCING citizens to purchase the product of a private corporation is definitive fascism.

Obamacare = the state forcing citizens to purchase insurance from private insurance corporations.


Obamacare = fascism.
Heritage Foundation idea.

Don't like it? Let's go single payer then, yeah?

[NumberSix]

Heritage Foundation idea.

Don't like it? Let's go single payer then, yeah?
That's the most rational approach.

[Droid101]

That's the most rational approach.
So you'll vote for the Democratic candidate in every future election that you can, right? Because they're the only party that will support such a solution.

[masonanddixon]

That's the most rational approach.

No Americna trained doctor will want single payer

[Akrazotile]

So you'll vote for the Democratic candidate in every future election that you can, right? Because they're the only party that will support such a solution.



He hasnt said a word about anything party-related in this topic, only an opinion on policy. You seem hell bent on diverting the topic back to the partisan realm, so that you can insist anyone who disagrees with anything republican/conservative in origin will have to agree therefore on all things liberal.


Party politics was invented for dummies like you. You need the comfort of a big group of people on your side for every issue, and nobody is allowed to break rank and go think for themselves. You need to be able to identify peoples positions on everything based on their position on any one thing. Simplification for the masses.


You are the very definition of the problem with our political system. You and KevinNYC should go get married, wherever its currently legal.

[Patrick Chewing]

Easy on Droid, he needs the government to tuck him in at night, feed him, and change his diapers.

[Akrazotile]

Actually I do apologize for being caustic and personal, I really try to build bridges not fences these days but it's just really hard to do in political discourse when you feel someones positions are doing harm to our society. Its like a coach, he wants the best for his players but sometimes when hes trying to teach them and they miss up you just get a bit frustrated and hotheaded.

No personal ill will intended, even if I do break out the insults now and again.

[ThePhantomCreep]

The state FORCING citizens to purchase the product of a private corporation is definitive fascism.

Obamacare = the state forcing citizens to purchase insurance from private insurance corporations.


Obamacare = fascism.

You can always pay the fine and live without insurance, right-winger. Nobody is sending you to the gulags if you don't. Of course, that wouldn't say much about your ability to accept "personal responsibility", now would it?

[Akrazotile]

You can always pay the fine and live without insurance, right-winger. Nobody is sending you to the gulags if you don't. Of course, that wouldn't say much about your ability to accept "personal responsibility", now would it?

Not yet, anyway. But the slope is slippery indeed, my friend. Just ask any person ever who's lived under dictatorial government.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Not yet, anyway. But the slope is slippery indeed, my friend. Just ask any person ever who's lived under dictatorial government.

If they rounded all the dipshit politicians who decided against expanding Medicaid, I wouldn't shed a tear.

Uninsured rate in states that expanded medicaid: 10.1% (50% drop from 2013 Q4)

States that didn't: 18.3% (10% drop from Q4 2013)

The disparity is frightening.

[Droid101]

He hasnt said a word about anything party-related in this topic, only an opinion on policy. You seem hell bent on diverting the topic back to the partisan realm, so that you can insist anyone who disagrees with anything republican/conservative in origin will have to agree therefore on all things liberal.
Not really sure how this applies to my post (that you strangely necro'd).

No Republican will ever support single payer or Universal healthcare. This is a fact.

So, if you don't want the Heritage Foundation's healthcare system (the Affordable Care Act), you should vote for the Democratic (or Green party I suppose) candidate in every election you can.

Not trying to make it partisan, just telling the truth. If you want single payer eventually, you need to vote Democratic right now.

[Akrazotile]

If they rounded all the dipshit politicians who decided against expanding Medicaid, I wouldn't shed a tear.

Uninsured rate in states that expanded medicaid: 10.1% (50% drop from 2013 Q4)

States that didn't: 18.3% (10% drop from Q4 2013)

The disparity is frightening.


So different states are different. Why are you concerned about coercing your ideals on people who dont live anywhere near you? Why cant you be concerned with your state and how it operates, and allow other states to do as they see fit? Why do you want to cede power to federal politicians who already have more than enough power, in exchange for them making other states live by your priorities?


People who support big government are generally very ignorant of history. There never has been and never will be a society of flat, equal socioeconomics.

It basically works like this:

Small government:

Upper class

Middle class

Poor class


Big government:

Upper Class (dictator and his cronies)



Middle class
Poor class



Big government simply pushes the middle and lower class closer together which makes liberals feel nice and cozy because its like, helping poor people mannn. Big government has never ever ever stopped or prevented an elite, ruling class. In fact it gives people with money MORE power, because the more rules the govt is allowed to make, the more authority that can be bought. In capitalism, you can choose not to be a mindless consumer and you will be at no man's mercy. With fascim you are, by law, at the governments mercy.


Libs just be livin that fairytale. Theyre chasing that dragon right now, thinking any second theyre gonna catch it and turn everything into utopia. But the cold reality of the world is you wont ever catch it, there wont be utopia, and foolishly chasing the promise of one will lead you over a cliff.

Basically:

Conservative mantra: Whoever can find happiness, let him.
Liberal mantra: If one person cant find happiness, NOBODY SHOULD!!!

[Droid101]

So different states are different. !
The only difference is that Republican governors denied the Medicare expansion to make a political point. They are literally denying people in their state insurance and medical care to "stick it to the libs." No other reason.

[Akrazotile]

The only difference is that Republican governors denied the Medicare expansion to make a political point. They are literally denying people in their state insurance and medical care to "stick it to the libs." No other reason.


That should be the concern of people in that state. If they dont feel theyre being represented properly they have the avenues to make a change.

People have to learn to pay attention to local political issues. THATS the surest way to move closer to economic equality. Encouraging people to tune out and go live mindlessly by throwing them a few extra dollars of welfare is actually the exact OPPOSITE of what is good for them. Thats the crux of the short sighted mistake liberals make. I dont question their hearts being in the right place but their approach is to subsidize effort and initiative with someone elses money. Its just an eternal bandaid that keeps people poor and requiring more assistance, and therefore depending more on government, and therefore ceding more power to politicians. Politicians WANT people on welfare! It doesnt come from their pockets, and it gives them politicial leverage. How perfect!

Anyone who cares about ordinary citizens should want them to improve their own habits and circumstances first, and THEN see how much assistance is really required and provide it where necessary. The Handout Economy is nothing more than a politicial tool that cunning politicians have managed to make popular by manipulating the emotions of the middle class. Sometimes you gotta be a father and not a mother. Let people learn through their own mistakes, dont coddle them to eternity. Some people will inevitably screw up but thats life. Hopefully theyve got family and friends and a strong local community who can help pull them through. But its not the job of a bloated federal bureaucracy. Thats just too dangerous.

[Patrick Chewing]

How many Democrats read the Affordable Healthcare Act before they passed it?


Anyone?

[nathanjizzle]

Actually I do apologize for being caustic and personal, I really try to build bridges not fences these days but it's just really hard to do in political discourse when you feel someones positions are doing harm to our society. Its like a coach, he wants the best for his players but sometimes when hes trying to teach them and they miss up you just get a bit frustrated and hotheaded.

No personal ill will intended, even if I do break out the insults now and again.

shut up nerd.

[nathanjizzle]

That should be the concern of people in that state. If they dont feel theyre being represented properly they have the avenues to make a change.

People have to learn to pay attention to local political issues. THATS the surest way to move closer to economic equality. Encouraging people to tune out and go live mindlessly by throwing them a few extra dollars of welfare is actually the exact OPPOSITE of what is good for them. Thats the crux of the short sighted mistake liberals make. I dont question their hearts being in the right place but their approach is to subsidize effort and initiative with someone elses money. Its just an eternal bandaid that keeps people poor and requiring more assistance, and therefore depending more on government, and therefore ceding more power to politicians. Politicians WANT people on welfare! It doesnt come from their pockets, and it gives them politicial leverage. How perfect!

Anyone who cares about ordinary citizens should want them to improve their own habits and circumstances first, and THEN see how much assistance is really required and provide it where necessary. The Handout Economy is nothing more than a politicial tool that cunning politicians have managed to make popular by manipulating the emotions of the middle class. Sometimes you gotta be a father and not a mother. Let people learn through their own mistakes, dont coddle them to eternity. Some people will inevitably screw up but thats life. Hopefully theyve got family and friends and a strong local community who can help pull them through. But its not the job of a bloated federal bureaucracy. Thats just too dangerous.

youre retarded. "family friends and strong community" :lol what world do you live in?

[Akrazotile]

shut up nerd.


I know u are but what am i??

[Droid101]

How many Democrats read the Affordable Healthcare Act before they passed it?


Anyone?
How many Republicans read the Affordable Healthcare Act before they passed it?


Anyone?

[Patrick Chewing]

Don't delete your post droid boy.

You seriously ask what's the relevance? I keep forgetting that you like your government to spoon feed you. You enjoy your government passing bills and laws without reading what's contained in them? That's the relevance and how it's been an enormous failure.

[nathanjizzle]

I know u are but what am i??

"family friends and a strong community" :lol

what an idiot. you have no idea how a governed society should work. your words are fancy but you have no idea what you are talking about.

[Droid101]

Don't delete your post droid boy.

You seriously ask what's the relevance? I keep forgetting that you like your government to spoon feed you. You enjoy your government passing bills and laws without reading what's contained in them? That's the relevance and how it's been an enormous failure.
What the **** are you talking about?

That's literally just a nonsense Fox News talking point.

The law is passed now. So, what is your beef with it? Let's ditch the talking points. What specifically do you not like about it? The fact that millions of people will now have health care that didn't before? That annoys you?



And personally speaking, nobody spoon-feeds me anything. I make my own bucks and I'm glad to pay a little extra in taxes/whatever if that means someone less fortunate than me might have a chance to succeed in this world. So seriously, what is your problem with me in particular?

[Akrazotile]

"family friends and a strong community" :lol

what an idiot. you have no idea how a governed society should work. your words are fancy but you have no idea what you are talking about.


Im rubber n ur glue, anything u say bounces off me n sticks to u!!!

[Droid101]

"family friends and a strong community" :lol

what an idiot. you have no idea how a governed society should work. your words are fancy but you have no idea what you are talking about.
He's a hardcore Libertarian.

"If the free market wants public schools and paved roads, they'd provide them!!"

[Akrazotile]

And personally speaking, nobody spoon-feeds me anything. I make my own bucks and I'm glad to pay a little extra in taxes/whatever if that means someone less fortunate than me might have a chance to succeed in this world. So seriously, what is your problem with me in particular?

Those dollars would statistically go a lot farther if they remained in your pocket until you gave them directly to a particular cause. Laundering a dollar through the government so that five cents of it comes out the other side in a welfare check for someone who's probably coasting unnecessarily off the system anyway is never good for anyone.


But by all means, if you like expensive wars and whatnot, pay as much in taxes as you like.

[GimmeThat]

What the **** are you talking about?

That's literally just a nonsense Fox News talking point.

The law is passed now. So, what is your beef with it? Let's ditch the talking points. What specifically do you not like about it? The fact that millions of people will now have health care that didn't before? That annoys you?


And personally speaking, nobody spoon-feeds me anything. I make my own bucks and I'm glad to pay a little extra in taxes/whatever if that means someone less fortunate than me might have a chance to succeed in this world. So seriously, what is your problem with me in particular?

it's probably the possibility of giving away any advantage the government had onto a system that has demonstrated all over the world for the fact that an aging population can truly cripple the country. as well as the possibility that the system itself contributes to the large amount of aging population instead of an admament amount of child birth.