Bosh is the third best PF of the last 10 years

[clutchinho]

If Duncan is counted as a C

1. KG
2. Dirk
3. Bosh

[$LakerGold]

WAT

[O_City_Thunder]

WAT
He said...


If Duncan is counted as a C

1. KG
2. Dirk
3. Bosh

[secund2nun]

PFs better than Bosh in the last 10 years excluding Duncan:

KG
Dirk
Gasol
Love

[Legends66NBA7]

Stoudemire > Bosh

[Lebron23]

PFs better than Bosh in the last 10 years excluding Duncan:

KG
Dirk
Gasol
Love


Prime Amare Stoudemire
2003-2005 Chris Webber

[AI Thornton]

PFs better than Bosh in the last 10 years excluding Duncan:

KG
Dirk
Gasol
Love

No. Maybe at their peaks, but Bosh is better cumulatively. Gasol and Bosh are pretty even.

[HiphopRelated]

Stoudemire > Bosh
lol

Duncan, KG and Dirk.The end.

There's a reason Bosh was the most sought after bigman in 2010

[BlackWhiteGreen]

lol

Duncan, KG and Dirk.The end.

There's a reason Bosh was the most sought after bigman in 2010

Which was that Amar'e was uninsurable.

[miller-time]

So I'm assuming this thread is made to raise Bosh's status to diminish LeBron's role on the Heat right?

If we can claim Bosh is the 3rd best PF and Wade and Allen are top 5 all-time SGs then I think we can state that LeBron is basically being carried.

[Cone]

1. Duncan
2. Dirk
3. KG

and no one else matters

[HiphopRelated]

Which was that Amar'e was uninsurable.
and an inferior player.

Mr. "I was never taught defense"

[BlackWhiteGreen]

and an inferior player.

Mr. "I was never taught defense"

imo they were considered on a similar level in 2010, but Amar'e was older and more injury prone. Bosh is certainly vastly underrated and probably underused in Miami, but then he was always going to be when he joined the two players he's with now.

[Scholar]

It's hard to pick Chris Bosh over prime Pau Gasol. Pre-2011 Gasol is one of the better PFs of the past 10 years.

[DMAVS41]

Duncan, Dirk, KG, and Gasol should be ranked for sure.

After that I think Bosh should be right there with the rest, but...I have a question.

What makes Bosh better than David West? Like, can we really say one is definitively better than the other? Don't get me wrong, I'd rather have Bosh as my best player, but after that it gets tricky...West brings a lot to the table as well.

The issue with Bosh on Miami has never been about his talent or how good he is in a vacuum. It's been about how good he is in the role he plays. In which he's been okay...that's about all you can say.

No doubt he would be better in different roles, but you don't get extra points for a player playing a lesser role

[Purch]

Gasol from 07-10 was definitely better

[Legends66NBA7]

lol

Duncan, KG and Dirk.The end.

There's a reason Bosh was the most sought after bigman in 2010

I don't really see what's "lol" worthy about this. Has Bosh ever had as good as 04-05 Stoudemire ? He's also had better individual accolades. It's clear that Stoudemire. was better in their primes to me.

Gasol was also better. Someone mentioned Webber as well, but his prime and the timing doesn't fit with the thread title, but he's better too as individual talent.

[fpliii]

Gasol was better.

[Owl]

Bosh is very good PF. He had a good peak

That said... Duncan, Garnett and Nowitzki have all clearly been far better.

Gasol has a similar peak, with more productive years and some strong playoffs (albeit also later some dissapointing ones). Brand and Stoudemire have had better peaks in the last ten years but injuries (and Stoudemire's lousy D) mean Bosh is better overall over that span.

Love and Davis have had better peaks already but don't have enough years to compare fairly with Bosh (though one could perhaps argue Love over him already, based on valuing peaks highly). Bosh has been better than Griffin has ever been (and ever seems likely to be given his trajectory with an elite point guard).

He's been better than Boozer, Randolph, Millsap, Aldridge, Lee etc

It also depends what position you're calling Marion, though again you're probably cutting out too many of his prime years and including too many relatively mediocre ones.

FWIW he's been better over most of that span than the much higher profile Melo.

So he's probably fifth over that specific span (Duncan, Garnett, Nowitzki, Gasol), but not anything close to the top 3, and hardly a great distance from the pack.

Bosh is now in a sub-optimal role. He's managing to adapt to his role as an efficient floor spacing big and 3rd option, still it's negating his gift for shot creation. A more defensive big (non-max contract), who's more used to playing off the ball (and not necessarily needing Bosh's shot creation, though ideally with some range) would probably meet Miami's 3rd option needs better, but still he's very good for a team's third best player.

[clutchinho]

Amare is not better, missed an entire season due to injury, and has basically been irrelevant in the last 3 seasons. Even at his peak he was a great scorer but not much else

Gasol played his best ball as a C but even as a PF there's no real argument for him being better than Bosh. They've both shown they are impact players, capable of contributing on championship teams (2 titles each) but Bosh is the more consistent defender, shooter and scorer. Bosh as a first option is a 22-9 player, while Pau was a 18-8 guy. With a peak individual season of 24ppg and 10.9rpg on 51.8% for Bosh against 20.4ppg and 8.9 rpg on 50.3% for Pau.

Kevin empty stats Love :lol :lol , talk about him when he even gets his team eveb close to .500 for a season

[chazzy]

Duncan, Dirk, KG, and Gasol should be ranked for sure.

After that I think Bosh should be right there with the rest, but...I have a question.

What makes Bosh better than David West? Like, can we really say one is definitively better than the other? Don't get me wrong, I'd rather have Bosh as my best player, but after that it gets tricky...West brings a lot to the table as well.

The issue with Bosh on Miami has never been about his talent or how good he is in a vacuum. It's been about how good he is in the role he plays. In which he's been okay...that's about all you can say.

No doubt he would be better in different roles, but you don't get extra points for a player playing a lesser role
Length, scoring, rim protection. I don't think you could get away with West as your team's center

[DMAVS41]

Length, scoring, rim protection. I don't think you could get away with West as your team's center

Versatility definitely goes to Bosh, but toughness and strength are big assets for West.

Just don't think in a vacuum these is much of a difference between the two as 2nd or 3rd guys.

Like I said...give me Bosh as the best player on a team, but after that I'm not sure who I'd want.