The NBA is very watered down right now

[PieceOfFelt]

The NBA as a whole right now is extremely diluted. All but two teams in the eastern conference are worthless. The fourth seed in the east has a below five hundred record. The Western Conference is obviously far superior to the eastern conference but even in the West there seems to be a shortage of truly great teams. The Spurs are running on fumes and are still near the top of the conference. A flawed OKC team is leading the conference. Looking beyond the teams there also appears to be a shortage of truly great players in the NBA. There are plenty of good or very good players but few legitimately great players. The Center and shooting guard positions are completely decimated.

[fpliii]

You're really trying too hard, breh.

[PieceOfFelt]

You're really trying too hard, breh.

You're not trying hard enough, breh. Why not contribute something worthwhile for once?

[Suguru101]

You're really not trying enough, breh.

[fpliii]

You're not trying hard enough, breh. Why not contribute something worthwhile for once?

lol...is this real life?

[red1]

obviously since half of the league's talent is on the heat and the other half is either injured or is an injured rapist. what do you expect

[PieceOfFelt]

The NBA might be doing well financially but talent wise the NBA is in a very dark place.

[TheReal Kendall]

You sure bruh?

[andremiller07]

The NBA might be doing well financially but talent wise the NBA is in a very dark place.
Talents fine it's just the bad/underperforming teams are not built well

[PieceOfFelt]

The NBA is still hyping up a guy who is now way past his prime and falling apart with injuries, and happens to be on a very mediocre, boring team.

[TheReal Kendall]

The NBA is still hyping up a guy who is now way past his prime and falling apart with injuries, and happens to be on a very mediocre, boring team.

:coleman: Lebron?

[Budadiiii]

Is that RL spongebob as your avatar?

Is he dead?

[Thunderstruck]

Talents better than is was 10 or so years ago.

[magnax1]

Talents better than is was 10 or so years ago.
Talent 10 years ago was about as low as it ever was.
I don't think it's that bad right now though. 08-12 had a nice little bump in the quality of play in the league, but there are lots of not to impressive teams right now that are going to win 50+ games in the west and the east only has 2 quality teams really.

[chocolatethunder]

The framework for watering down the NBA was put in place w expansion in the 80s when Charlotte and whoever else came into the league. The league could handle the first expansion talent wise and more and more euros came over to kind of bridge the talent gap as the league expanded again but the NBA is not as good as it was, in my opinion.

[PieceOfFelt]

I mostly feel bad for the kids who are just getting into basketball and this is the horseshit product they have to watch.

[moe94]

I mostly feel bad for the kids who are just getting into basketball and this is the horseshit product they have to watch.

What the hell are you even talking about? Kids want characters, dunks and super teams and they're here in abundance. Take your BS nostalgia and shove it. :coleman:

[sportjames23]

moe mad as fvck. :oldlol:

[moe94]

moe mad as fvck. :oldlol:

You're just mad the 90s was considered watered down, too. :confusedshrug:

[sportjames23]

You're just mad the 90s was considered watered down, too. :confusedshrug:


Only by young dumbasses who were either too young or weren't around to see it.

[PieceOfFelt]

What the hell are you even talking about? Kids want characters, dunks and super teams and they're here in abundance. Take your BS nostalgia and shove it. :coleman:

Super teams? There's one super team first of all. Characters? What you mean like Dwight Howard and his excessive breeding or Dwyane Wade and his fruity taste in clothes? Where all of these interesting characters? It's mostly a bunch of spoiled narcissists. Dunks? Dunks have been around for ever, in abundance.

[fpliii]

Only by young dumbasses who were either too young or weren't around to see it.

:facepalm

[moe94]

:facepalm

There was no expansion and the Bulls didn't have a monopoly on the championship, nope.

[fpliii]

There was no expansion and the Bulls didn't have a monopoly on the championship, nope.
The 80s were a very tough era, until the expansion in the last couple of years. Not the best defense, but a high level of play for sure. 90s, not so much. Some great centers though, much respect to bigs from the decade. Stiff competition.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Only by young dumbasses who were either too young or weren't around to see it.

The late 90's were VERY watered down.

'87-94 might be the best brand (and stretch) of basketball ever played, though.

Peak Bird
Peak Magic
Peak Jordan
Peak Dominique
Peak Olajuwon
Peak Isiah Thomas
Peak Ewing
Peak Mullin
Peak Drexler
Peak Barkley
Peak KJ
Prime Rodman
Prime Payton
Prime Pippen
Prime DRob
Prime Malone
Prime Stockton

.... I'm missing a few, but you get the point.

[red1]

The late 90's were VERY watered down.

'87-94 might be the best brand (and stretch) of basketball ever played, though.

Peak Bird
Peak Magic
Peak Jordan
Peak Dominique
Peak Olajuwon
Peak Isiah Thomas
Peak Ewing
Peak Mullin
Peak Drexler
Peak Barkley
Peak KJ
Prime Rodman
Prime Payton
Prime Pippen
Prime DRob
Prime Malone
Prime Stockton

.... I'm missing a few, but you get the point.
EASILY the goat era

[Jameerthefear]

the op is the only person i have ever kept on ignore for this long.

[moe94]

EASILY the goat era

I don't see Mikan there.

[Micku]

EASILY the goat era

Mid 80s through early 90s probably had the best individual talent and few of the greatest teams that the league has ever seen. Some of those teams were really stacked.

From 08 till now, the teamplay is much better than it was in the early 00s and late 90s. But the east got suck into injuries and teams be tankin'.

[PieceOfFelt]

This Jameer clown is easily the biggest attention whore I've ever seen. In every thread he'll insert some idiotic comment and make everything about himself. Not only is he very creepy but he also appears to be very narcissistic. A creepy attention seeking asswipe who is likely not being truthful about his age and has a unnatural obsession with anime has me on ignore, how terrible.

[moe94]

This Jameer clown is easily the biggest attention whore I've ever seen. In every thread he'll insert some idiotic comment and make everything about himself. Not only is he very creepy but he also appears to be very narcissistic. A creepy attention seeking asswipe who is likely not being truthful about his age and has a unnatural obsession with anime has me on ignore, how terrible.

He influenced you to make this post. Who really lost?

[GASOL IS GOAT]

What the hell are you even talking about? Kids want characters, dunks and super teams and they're here in abundance. Take your BS nostalgia and shove it. :coleman:
You should know what kids want seeing that you act like one and have the intellectual capacity of a 10 year old :lol

[PieceOfFelt]

He influenced you to make this post. Who really lost?

He didn't influence shit. Now please stop derailing this thread with your incessant trolling.

[Legends66NBA7]

The 80s were a very tough era, until the expansion in the last couple of years. Not the best defense, but a high level of play for sure. 90s, not so much. Some great centers though, much respect to bigs from the decade. Stiff competition.

90's was incredibly strong. The last 1 or 2 years was probably weaker, but it doesn't make it a weak era.

[Legends66NBA7]

It's always different on ISH.

Some suggest that today's era was as good or even better than previous eras and then we have the opposite. There's no even ground. The east being this weak, though... probably favours OP's point.

[fpliii]

90's was incredibly strong. The last 1 or 2 years was probably weaker, but it doesn't make it a weak era.

Eh, we'll have to agree to disagree I think. Though I wasn't so much disparaging the 90s though, as stating that IMO the 80s were better, and that the current league is on a similar level (to the 90s, that is).

[moe94]

You should know what kids want seeing that you act like one and have the intellectual capacity of a 10 year old :lol

Keep following me around, though. You're seriously obsessed. I also worded it that way to bait buda but hooked a clown instead. :biggums:

[Legends66NBA7]

Eh, we'll have to agree to disagree I think. Though I wasn't so much disparaging the 90s though, as stating that IMO the 80s were better, and that the current league is on a similar level (to the 90s, that is).

I would agree the 80's overall is better, but I don't think 90's is that far off from level of play.

[GASOL IS GOAT]

Keep following me around, though. You're seriously obsessed. I also worded it that way to bait buda but hooked a clown instead. :biggums:
Baiting other users huh. And I'm the one who's obsessed :lol

I must say, all you do is post nonsense. I'm hoping you're just trolling but I have a good feeling you really are this stupid :confusedshrug:

[moe94]

I must say, all you do is post nonsense. I'm hoping you're just trolling but I have a good feeling you really are this stupid :confusedshrug:

Stop. Don't act like we interact in any way outside laughing at your shit tier trolling. :rolleyes:

[Jameerthefear]

gasol is goat looking stupid as usual

[PieceOfFelt]

Just take a look at the past All NBA teams. For example, 1991:

F Charles Barkley
F Karl Malone
C David Robinson
G Magic Johnson
G Michael Jordan

Hakeem Couldn't even make first team all NBA. This shits on today's league. In Today's NBA Paul George is the third best player in the league. Back then.....

[moe94]

Hakeem Couldn't even make first team all NBA. This shits on today's league. In Today's NBA Paul George is the third best player in the league. Back then.....

He has absolutely no case.

[PieceOfFelt]

He has absolutely no case.

No case? Seriously, no case? The guy is one of the most versatile players in the league. He's a two way player unlike that midget in LA who just plays the passing lanes.

[GASOL IS GOAT]

Stop. Don't act like we interact in any way outside laughing at your shit tier trolling. :rolleyes:
Well if you consider me constantly owning you trolling then I guess I'm a troll :confusedshrug:

[moe94]

Well if you consider me constantly owning you trolling then I guess I'm a troll :confusedshrug:

Keep replying. The last one to reply wins.

[Legends66NBA7]

No case? Seriously, no case? The guy is one of the most versatile players in the league. He's a two way player unlike that midget in LA who just plays the passing lanes.

Wouldn't be over Jordan and Magic.

So really, I don't see how he can be over the likes of the others mentioned either. Would he be a Top 10 player in 90-91 ?

Who's the midget in LA, BTW ?

[GASOL IS GOAT]

Keep replying. The last one to reply wins.
Wins :wtf:

Sorry sir I don't take the internet that seriously :coleman:

[PieceOfFelt]

Wouldn't be over Jordan and Magic.

So really, I don't see how he can be over the likes of the others mentioned either. Would he be a Top 10 player in 90-91 ?

Who's the midget in LA, BTW ?

What? I'm saying he has a case for top 3 player in today's NBA. In 1991 he wouldn't be close to that. He might not be a top 10 player. The midget in LA is Chris Paul.

[Legends66NBA7]

What? I'm saying he has a case for top 3 player in today's NBA. In 1991 he wouldn't be close to that. He might not be a top 10 player. The midget in LA is Chris Paul.

My mistake, I was confused. I thought you meant George would be Top 3 in 91.

I agree, he more than has a case this year to be Top 3.

[b1imtf]

So you claim