Will lebron feel the need to win it all w/o wade, bosh, allen, like kobe after shaq?

[Mr. Jabbar]

Both are/were questioned for the same reasons, kobe couldn't deal with it anymore and ultimately got rid of shaq to prove haters wrong, do you think lebron will want to shut his doubters by trying to win with lesser help in the future?

[TheReal Kendall]

Naw. Lebron is a smarter player than Kobe.

He knows he need those guys help to win. Lebron is a team player whereas Kobe just wants to be the man.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Nope because he was the best player on the team.

[moe94]

Nope because was the best player on the team.

End this abomination of a thread right here. :applause:

[red1]

mr jabbar, do you know what a finals mvp award is and what it represents?

[Illuminati]

Nope because was the best player on the team.

/thread.:applause:

[EllisGW]

kobe was not better than shaq, its not that hard. kobe was not even close to an mvp or a finals mvp.

[Mr. Jabbar]

mr jabbar, do you know what a finals mvp award is and what it represents?

im aware shaq does not equal all of lebrons cast, in the end kobe had less help than bran all in consideration. doesnt matter the fmvp, shaq/kobe feud was a duo like durant/westbrook, they needed each other to win it all, and lebron is being widely questioned wether ppl like or not

[HylianNightmare]

i hope goes to cleveland, who will be nothing special and to take them to the finals

[Solefade]

thread backfired on OP

[Trollsmasher]

He basically won it without them last year.

[red1]

im aware shaq does not equal all of lebrons cast, in the end kobe had less help than bran all in consideration. doesnt matter the fmvp, shaq/kobe feud was a duo like durant/westbrook, they needed each other to win it all
No doubt, lebron is a choking bitch with a f*cked up hairline, Im not arguing with you man. Just saying that he won his fmvps so your criticism isnt fair is all

[Mr. Jabbar]

He basically won it without them last year.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/640/962/d91.gif

[PJR]

:oldlol: Outisde of the occasional idiot insidehoops forum poster, LeBron's stature as a Heat player is questioned by NO ONE. That's why he's won the last two MVP's. Thread failure.

[TheMarkMadsen]

He basically won it without them last year.


yeah Wade leading the starters in FG% in the finals while averaging 20/4/5/2 in the finals was basically non existent as was Ray Rays 72% TS in the finals

[Mr. Jabbar]

No doubt, lebron is a choking bitch with a f*cked up hairline, Im not arguing with you man. Just saying that he won his fmvps so your criticism isnt fair is all

im not criticizing, for all i care shaq should have stayed with lakers along with kobe, more banners for us.. its not about fmvp or w/e, the question is wether he will like to shut the doubters which are many, like kobe had

[EllisGW]

yeah Wade leading the starters in FG% in the finals while averaging 20/4/5/2 in the finals was basically non existent as was Ray Rays 72% TS in the finals

he is talking about his overall play in the playoffs, it was not very good.

[imnew09]

Nope thats why he joined the force

[EllisGW]

im not criticizing, for all i care shaq should have stayed with lakers along with kobe, more banners for us.. its not about fmvp or w/e, the question is wether he will like to shut the doubters which are many, like kobe had

no, because kobe had to win being the number one guy. Lebron is best payer on the heat.

[Mr. Jabbar]

no, because kobe had to win being the number one guy. Lebron is best payer on the heat.

ok, having franchise players all around him has not risen any questions towards his alpha capabilities, i got it all wrong

so if shaq had not only kobe but prime cp3, durant and lebron during the 3peat but still be number 1 no1 would question him...

[GrapeApe]

Players don't think like the fans on this board. Kobe nor any player ever thought to themselves, "I'd like to have worse teammates." That's just stupid, and as has been mentioned, LeBron has already won twice as the best player.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Just ignore my post OP :lol

[moe94]

Just ignore my post OP :lol

Jabbar is too witty to reply.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Just ignore my post OP :lol

do you really think being the "best" player on that roster is worthy of 2009-2010 kobe chips? :roll: lebron is being questioned rightfully, will he feel the need to prove himself with lesser help? thread proves at least his fans are afraid by the mere possibility of that scenario :applause:

[LongLiveTheKing]

do you really think being the "best" player on that roster is worthy of 2009-2010 kobe chips? :roll: lebron is being questioned rightfully, will he feel the need to prove himself with lesser help? thread proves at least his fans are afraid by the mere possibility of that scenario :applause:
By who? Kobe stans? :oldlol:

[knicksman]

alphas enjoy challenges compared to betas who would even go as far as cheating to take the easy way out

[Mr. Jabbar]

By who? Kobe stans? :oldlol:

keep thinking yourself that, there's a whole world outside florida..

[moe94]

keep thinking yourself that, there's a whole world outside florida..

And it's not inside your head, either.

[red1]

alphas enjoy challenges compared to betas who would even go as far as cheating to get what they want
another brilliant post brought to you by knicksman

[Mr. Jabbar]

And it's not inside your head, either.

you know im right, theres no need to fight the feeling, kobe forgives you

[Droid101]

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[Droid101]

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[Trollsmasher]

yeah Wade leading the starters in FG% in the finals while averaging 20/4/5/2 in the finals was basically non existent as was Ray Rays 72% TS in the finals
I like how you use FG% with Wade and TS% with Ray Ray:lol

[Mr. Jabbar]

http://img.pandawhale.com/92990-Antonio-Banderas-reaction-gif-C5M4.gif

:oldlol: :oldlol:

[red1]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/198qj0pvzn5wqgif/k-medium.gif
:applause:

[poido123]

By who? Kobe stans? :oldlol:

Alot of people.

Without the stacked team, Lebron aint winning shit. He wets the bed too much to carry a team by himself. He needs other clutch players to bail him out in tough situations and there aren't many better at that than Wade and even Allen when the game is on the line. Hell even Bosh, Battier and Chalmers have come through in the clutch.

I'm not saying that stars don't need help, it's just that Lebron needs all kind of help to win and he needs a weakened competition to do that in.

[AintNoSunshine]

During Kobe's title runs with Shaq:

Kobe -- 0 FMVP, Shaq -- 3 FMVP

During Lebron's title runs:

Lebron -- 2 FMVP, Wade+Bosh+Allen -- 0 FMVP

see the difference?

[Mr. Jabbar]

Alot of people.

Without the stacked team, Lebron aint winning shit. He wets the bed too much to carry a team by himself. He needs other clutch players to bail him out in tough situations and there aren't many better at that than Wade and even Allen when the game is on the line. Hell even Bosh, Battier and Chalmers have come through in the clutch.

I'm not saying that stars don't need help, it's just that Lebron needs all kind of help to win and he needs a weakened competition to do that in.

if some1 fell asleep for the last 5 years and then asked me wassup with lebron during that time i'd show him this post :applause:

[K Xerxes]

Hasn't Bron already won without Allen?

[coin24]

During Kobe's title runs with Shaq:

Kobe -- 0 FMVP, Shaq -- 3 FMVP

During Lebron's title runs:

Lebron -- 2 FMVP, Wade+Bosh+Allen -- 0 FMVP

see the difference?

Bran cost wade the 2011 FMVP :oldlol: batgirl..

[poido123]

if some1 fell asleep for the last 5 years and then asked me wassup with lebron during that time i'd show him this post :applause:


I think the people on ISH would be a little more accomodating to Heat fans if they didn't defend everything Lebron does or doesn't do.

They spend too much time overrating him (yeah there are people who are saying he is already GOAT :oldlol:) and never admit Lebron's flaws, which he does have a few.

I mean, everyone knows he is the best player in the league, but there are some serious question marks on his character and killer instinct, even after the titles and MVP's.

Do people sit here and question Jordan in the same way? Or Bird? Duncan? Hakeem? Nope, well not many that's for sure.

[AintNoSunshine]

Bran cost wade the 2011 FMVP :oldlol: batgirl..


Kobe has costed more titles so you probably don't wanna go there

[LongLiveTheKing]

Alot of people.

Without the stacked team, Lebron aint winning shit. He wets the bed too much to carry a team by himself. He needs other clutch players to bail him out in tough situations and there aren't many better at that than Wade and even Allen when the game is on the line. Hell even Bosh, Battier and Chalmers have come through in the clutch.

I'm not saying that stars don't need help, it's just that Lebron needs all kind of help to win and he needs a weakened competition to do that in.
So Lebron has never come through in the clutch for Miami? :oldlol:

[poido123]

Hasn't Bron already won without Allen?


Allen wasn't needed to hit a game tying and championship saving 3 pointer in that year. Wade and Bosh in their prime is more than enough.

[Lebron23]

When Kobe won his first 3 championship. He wasn't the best player of the Lakers.

Lebron was the Finals MVP and best player of the Heat in the 2012 and 2013 NBA Finals.

[poido123]

So Lebron has never come through in the clutch for Miami? :oldlol:


You would expect him to 1 every 20 playoff games which is about right :oldlol:

The rest he doesn't need to exert himself, because his team is that stacked and often Wade, Bosh or one of the 3 point shooting role players will come through for him.

But you hang onto that game 7 last year, or one of the games from 2 years ago and claim that Lebron is reliable in the clutch :oldlol:

[K Xerxes]

Allen wasn't needed to hit a game tying and championship saving 3 pointer in that year. Wade and Bosh in their prime is more than enough.

Teah, so it should really only be only Wade and Bosh. Allen didn't really do shit in the entire playoffs apart from that shot anyway*, didn't he put up 0 points in game 7 like Bosh?

*Not trying to take away from that shot, most clutch and possibly most important single made shotr in history.

[moe94]

Poido, put your dog avatar back on. Your posts now seem intimidating and evil instead of playfully innocent. Your trolling depends on it.

[Lebron23]

Kobe in 2000-2002

0 MVP
0 Finals MVP

Lebron in 2012-13

2 MVP
2 Finals MVP.

Lebron was the Alpha while Kobe was a Beta.

[poido123]

Teah, so it should really only be only Wade and Bosh. Allen didn't really do shit in the entire playoffs apart from that shot anyway*, didn't he put up 0 points in game 7 like Bosh?

*Not trying to take away from that shot, most clutch and possibly most important single made shotr in history.


Oh no doubt.

Not saying Allen was a vital cog of this team, but like he has done throughout his career, he makes big shots when needed. Allen is important to the Heat in that aspect, he can be relied upon to be there when it counts.

The Heat big 3 attract so much attention, the role players are able to take turns in having good games. You often see a chalmers or a battier or anderson, or whoever step up and play well.

[poido123]

Poido, put your dog avatar back on. Your posts now seem intimidating and evil instead of playfully innocent. Your trolling depends on it.


:lol :oldlol:

The pooch had to go. No more Mr. Nice Guy.

[K Xerxes]

Oh no doubt.

Not saying Allen was a vital cog of this team, but like he has done throughout his career, he makes big shots when needed. Allen is important to the Heat in that aspect, he can be relied upon to be there when it counts.

The Heat big 3 attract so much attention, the role players are able to take turns in having good games. You often see a chalmers or a battier or anderson, or whoever step up and play well.

Good points. Tbh the way the Heat is set up must be a spot up shooter's dream. :oldlol:

[comerb]

keep thinking yourself that, there's a whole world outside florida..

I'm in California and it's pretty much just Kobe Stan's that say this sort of silly shit.

Not only is Lebron the best player on his team, but he's several years older than what Kobe was. Very different points in their careers.

You've pretty much been getting your shit pushed in this entire thread, it's hilarious.

[cos88]

Nope because he was the best player on the team.

http://imageshack.com/a/img546/7941/crr.gif (https://imageshack.com/i/f6crrg)


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[NumberSix]

:lol :oldlol:

The pooch had to go. No more Mr. Nice Guy.
No more nice guy? Ok there professor chaos. :roll:

[Bigsmoke]

Both are/were questioned for the same reasons, kobe couldn't deal with it anymore and ultimately got rid of shaq to prove haters wrong, do you think lebron will want to shut his doubters by trying to win with lesser help in the future?

U love LeBron dick in your mouth lol

[SavageMode]

Kobe in 2000-2002

0 MVP
0 Finals MVP

Lebron in 2012-13

2 MVP
2 Finals MVP.

Lebron was the Alpha while Kobe was a Beta.
This.

Mr. Jabber exposed :roll:

[I<3NBA]

except after Kobe ran Shaq out of LA, he then began bawling like a girl when he couldn't win for 2 years. then threatened the management to get him "help."

so yeah, lol at Kobe not wanting "help."

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe in 2000-2002

0 MVP
0 Finals MVP

Lebron in 2012-13

2 MVP
2 Finals MVP.

Lebron was the Alpha while Kobe was a Beta.



Kobe 2001 playoff run: 29.4/7/6 on 47%


Lebron 2013 playoff run: 25.9/8/7 on 49%


Kobe 2002 finals: 27/6/5 on 51%

Lebron 2013 finals: 25/11/7 on 45%

nice to see prime Lebron on 21 & 22 YO Kobe's level

[Quickening]

The difference is that Lebron got help, whereas Kobe was the help to Shaq. Like Pippen was the help to Jordan.

[TheMarkMadsen]

The difference is that Lebron got help, whereas Kobe was the help to Shaq. Like Pippen was the help to Jordan.


wasn't Wade already a former FMVP when Lebron joined the team? If i recall correctly he won FMVP and then a few years later Lebron joined?

[branslowski]

wasn't Wade already a former FMVP when Lebron joined the team? If i recall correctly he won FMVP and then a few years later Lebron joined?

It's better to run to a stacked team that already has a finals MVP, then become a duo and build championship titles for your team.

LeBron stan Logic.:cletus:

[Quickening]

wasn't Wade already a former FMVP when Lebron joined the team? If i recall correctly he won FMVP and then a few years later Lebron joined?

How is that relevant to anything... Lebron was the consensus best player in the world when he joined the heat, and since, winning MVPs and FMVPs along the way. So yes, Wade is the help, its not fcking difficult.

Did you see Pippen or Kobe winning any individual awards whilst playing with Shaq and Jordan, of course not.

[KingBeasley08]

No. LeBron has good sidekicks, no doubt. Kobe WAS the sidekick

[Jlamb47]

Lebron should so his legacy looks better. He looks like a loser who needed other superstars and then choked his first finals with a young dwade and bosh

[DaSeba5]

Do people forget that it's a team game? Is the Ray Allen shot really supposed to discredit LeBron? Is LeBron supposed to take every shot in the game?

[retaxis]

I will say this quickly. Kobe is a sociopath who doesn't care who he hurts or steps on in order to get what he wants (sexual assaults/rape, snitching on shaq, throwing team mates under the bus etc). Without basketball this guy would be nothing more then a psychopath. This is why so many young delinquents and anti-social/borderline personality disorder people look up to him and think if they act the way he does they will actually achieve something in life. Not in a million years, 99.999% of people like Kobe end up in a mental asylum taking mood stabilizers and anti depressants for the rest of their lives.

If you are willing to do everything to prop up this guy on a personal level, you really have lost touch with the real world and the values we have in this real world.

[kNicKz]

He basically won it without them last year.

http://www.celticstitletown.com/RayUconn.jpg

[lpublic_enemyl]

Do people forget that it's a team game? Is the Ray Allen shot really supposed to discredit LeBron? Is LeBron supposed to take every shot in the game?
Exactly, Lebron won it as the best player on that team, should we throw an asterisk beside kobe and shaq's title cause horry made a clutch shot?

[kNicKz]

Exactly, Lebron won it as the best player on that team, should we throw an asterisk beside kobe and shaq's title cause horry made a clutch shot?

Obviously not, but saying that Lebron "did it by himself" is pretty damn hilarious

[Mr. Jabbar]

I will say this quickly. Kobe is a sociopath who doesn't care who he hurts or steps on in order to get what he wants (sexual assaults/rape, snitching on shaq, throwing team mates under the bus etc). Without basketball this guy would be nothing more then a psychopath. This is why so many young delinquents and anti-social/borderline personality disorder people look up to him and think if they act the way he does they will actually achieve something in life. Not in a million years, 99.999% of people like Kobe end up in a mental asylum taking mood stabilizers and anti depressants for the rest of their lives.

If you are willing to do everything to prop up this guy on a personal level, you really have lost touch with the real world and the values we have in this real world.

psycopath charity spendings :applause:

[Bandito]

Obviously not, but saying that Lebron "did it by himself" is pretty damn hilariousThat is what piss me off about Heat stans. Every other legend in basketball did it with help but Lebron did it by himself:facepalm

[moe94]

psycopath charity spendings :applause:

The fact that he really believes that junk is embarrassing. The fact that he's not alone and that sentiment is parroted is what's really troubling. They flat out believe Kobe is a real psychopath. Dude used the "rape" as part of his evidence. :oldlol:

[Mr. Jabbar]

The fact that he really believes that junk is embarrassing. The fact that he's not alone and that sentiment is parroted is what's really troubling. They flat out believe Kobe is a real psychopath. Dude used the "rape" as part of his evidence. :oldlol:

its amazing how far they can reach to make a well spoken educated person who happens to like perfection in his profession look like a sociopath

this

http://www.naturalnews.com/gallery/articles/Charles_Manson_cult.jpg

aint this

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7HPDJG9F98s/T5MJfaSGe_I/AAAAAAAABXY/-0s0vFlivoI/s1600/tim.jpg

[moe94]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Ted_Bundy_in_court.jpg/300px-Ted_Bundy_in_court.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-t4cvPfYW86M/T43rJAhaV-I/AAAAAAAAAF8/l3WMScpIi1A/s1600/Kobe1-307x441.jpg

Kobe doing Kobe things.

[retaxis]

The fact that he really believes that junk is embarrassing. The fact that he's not alone and that sentiment is parroted is what's really troubling. They flat out believe Kobe is a real psychopath. Dude used the "rape" as part of his evidence. :oldlol:
Its not a matter of belief its a matter of years of experience as an occupational therapist in mental health.

[moe94]

Its not a matter of belief its a matter of years of experience as an occupational therapist in mental health.

http://cdn.weknowgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/j-jonah-jameson-laughing-gif.gif

[Mr. Jabbar]

Its not a matter of belief its a matter of years of experience as an occupational therapist in mental health.

i think you've been exposed to high levels of f'ed up-tadness, i recommend you seek some therapy yourself before going forward

you're welcome

[retaxis]

i think you've been exposed to high levels of f'ed up-tadness, i recommend you seek some therapy yourself before going forward

you're welcome
Save my posts, it will make sense to you in ten years time.

[moe94]

Save my posts, it will make sense to you in ten years time.

Were you flat out serious with that therapist post? That's much much funnier. :roll:

http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/americanpsycho2.jpg

Bale is set to play Kobe in the biopic. They say it will be tastefully done.

[branslowski]

Save my posts, it will make sense to you in ten years time.

So Kobe been to a few of your sessions? You been talkin to him on the phone? Do yawl have annual Saturday afternoon bbq's at Kobe's house? Just askin, sounds like you know him personally.

[moe94]

So Kobe been to a few of your sessions? You been talkin to him on the phone? Do yawl have annual Saturday afternoon bbq's at Kobe's house? Just askin, sounds like you know him personally.

You can't just see Kobe. He does all his appointments through proxy, further supporting the psychopath analysis. We determine this through his "killer instinct" which really is just "killer". Remember the rape trial? The rape trial?

[retaxis]

Were you flat out serious with that therapist post? That's much much funnier. :roll:

http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/americanpsycho2.jpg

Bale is set to play Kobe in the biopic. They say it will be tastefully done.
You and Jabbar (likely the same person) are trolls who acknowledge trolling.

Trolls find meaning in their life to annoy others symbolizing obvious traits and symptoms of APD and BPD e.g. lack of social and communication etiquette and skills, sees everything in the world as either black or white, lack of appreciation for society norms and values, constantly splitting (idol/role model can do no wrong while another can do no right), inability to maintain and develop long term relationships, lack of routine and roles in life, withdrawal from society (increased internet use), often feeling betrayed/can't trust anyone and being let down, and the list goes on.

Believe it or not most people with personality disorders or even mood disorders are not diagnosed because they are not admitted to ED then T/F to the appropriate facilities. However that does not mean you do not have various forms of mental illness.

You have been served. You can take this to your local community mental health worker and they will do the rest.

[moe94]

You're seriously worse than Buda in terms of wasting your time for no reason.

[Bandito]

Kobe 2001 playoff run: 29.4/7/6 on 47%


Lebron 2013 playoff run: 25.9/8/7 on 49%


Kobe 2002 finals: 27/6/5 on 51%

Lebron 2013 finals: 25/11/7 on 45%

nice to see prime Lebron on 21 & 22 YO Kobe's level
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ether/images/ether_summary1.jpg

[kamil]

You and Jabbar (likely the same person) are trolls who acknowledge trolling.

Trolls find meaning in their life to annoy others symbolizing obvious traits and symptoms of APD and BPD e.g. lack of social and communication etiquette and skills, sees everything in the world as either black or white, lack of appreciation for society norms and values, constantly splitting (idol/role model can do no wrong while another can do no right), inability to maintain and develop long term relationships, lack of routine and roles in life, withdrawal from society (increased internet use), often feeling betrayed/can't trust anyone and being let down, and the list goes on.

Believe it or not most people with personality disorders or even mood disorders are not diagnosed because they are not admitted to ED then T/F to the appropriate facilities. However that does not mean you do not have various forms of mental illness.

You have been served. You can take this to your local community mental health worker and they will do the rest.

Oh snap.

[PickernRoller]

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/640/962/d91.gif

The world of Lebron Stans: Ray Allen's 3 did not happen. :oldlol: :oldlol: :lol


Kobe 2001 playoff run: 29.4/7/6 on 47%


Lebron 2013 playoff run: 25.9/8/7 on 49%


Kobe 2002 finals: 27/6/5 on 51%

Lebron 2013 finals: 25/11/7 on 45%

nice to see prime Lebron on 21 & 22 YO Kobe's level


Hehe that ether. Lebron stans getting owned in their own game: stats. No surprise to me. Lebron is the worst Finals performer of all time.

[stanlove1111]

Both are/were questioned for the same reasons, kobe couldn't deal with it anymore and ultimately got rid of shaq to prove haters wrong, do you think lebron will want to shut his doubters by trying to win with lesser help in the future?

We have already seen that experiment and can compare. Lebron in Cleveland with no help challenged year after year for the title. Kobe in LA after Shaq left and with more help then Lebron had in Cleveland won half his games for the next year years and went nowhere. Failed to make the playoffs one year I believe. And this in the prime of his career.

[pauk]

Both are/were questioned for the same reasons, kobe couldn't deal with it anymore and ultimately got rid of shaq to prove haters wrong, do you think lebron will want to shut his doubters by trying to win with lesser help in the future?

Kobe couldnt deal with not winning a championship as the man, as he was a benchwarmer, then 6th man, then sidekick all the time.... not the same thing.... people didnt think or doubted if he could do that......... Lebron however never had that problem... the only hate Lebron has is jelousy, fear & loathing.... its very different scenarios & players there....

[Bandito]

Kobe couldnt deal with not winning a championship as the man, sidekick, 2nd fiddle..... not the same thing.... people didnt know or doubted if he could do that......... Lebron however never had that problem... the only hate Lebron has is jelousy, fear & loathing.... its very different scenarios & players there....
Nobody fears that nikka:roll:

[ripthekik]

You and Jabbar (likely the same person) are trolls who acknowledge trolling.

Trolls find meaning in their life to annoy others symbolizing obvious traits and symptoms of APD and BPD e.g. lack of social and communication etiquette and skills, sees everything in the world as either black or white, lack of appreciation for society norms and values, constantly splitting (idol/role model can do no wrong while another can do no right), inability to maintain and develop long term relationships, lack of routine and roles in life, withdrawal from society (increased internet use), often feeling betrayed/can't trust anyone and being let down, and the list goes on.

Believe it or not most people with personality disorders or even mood disorders are not diagnosed because they are not admitted to ED then T/F to the appropriate facilities. However that does not mean you do not have various forms of mental illness.

You have been served. You can take this to your local community mental health worker and they will do the rest.
lmao at this armchair psychologist..
Wow.. way to analyze things out of proportion. I'm sure if you really do work in the psychology field, you suck at it.

Let me show you some armchair psychology too. You suck at your job and can't get any recognition after years of working at it. You come to ISH to vent some anger, rely on Lebron to share his success as you have none of your own. You get pissed by the people who disrespect lebron here as you take it personally. You try to impress people by trying to act like a professional and acting like you're higher than others... just so you can have a sense of achievement, again, something you don't have at work and real life. This isn't the first time you try to impress people here and fail at it.. it's funny when the so-called "trolls" here enjoy life and don't take things so seriously, but guys like you take things by the textbook, you are actually the ones who see things as black or white, and thinks people can be grouped so easily. :facepalm

My advice? Go back to school. You need both the education and sense of achievement.

How'd I do?

[moe94]

Lebron is the worst Finals performer of all time.

Kobe is factually worse.


rip, don't do em like that. He was probably just trolling anyway. No way someone makes that kind of post on a basketball message board without implied irony.

[Odinn]

What I love about Kobe-stans their consistency.

Just examine the thread title.
- Suggests LeBron's 2 rings are like Kobe's first 3 rings. Trolling.
- Suggests LeBron need to win with lesser help but ignores Kobe had one of the top 2 supporting casts in those 2 title seasons. Acts like Kobe won with lesser help. Trolling.

Although OP is only taken seriously by his alter-egos or other Kobe-stans. There is no need to worry.

[Bandito]

lmao at this armchair psychologist..
Wow.. way to analyze things out of proportion. I'm sure if you really do work in the psychology field, you suck at it.

Let me show you some armchair psychology too. You suck at your job and can't get any recognition after years of working at it. You come to ISH to vent some anger, rely on Lebron to share his success as you have none of your own. You get pissed by the people who disrespect lebron here as you take it personally. You try to impress people by trying to act like a professional and acting like you're higher than others... just so you can have a sense of achievement, again, something you don't have at work and real life. This isn't the first time you try to impress people here and fail at it.. it's funny when the so-called "trolls" here enjoy life and don't take things so seriously, but guys like you take things by the textbook, you are actually the ones who see things as black or white, and thinks people can be grouped so easily. :facepalm

My advice? Go back to school. You need both the education and sense of achievement.

How'd I do?His blood is going to be on your hands after he commits suicide bro. THink about that...:facepalm

[ripthekik]

and to this topic: yes, lebron will have to.

I've said it since he went to the heat: Lebron will never win a ring without 2 all stars in his team. He's a great player, don't get me wrong, but he needs too much help, or else he'll fail.

Before the question was: can Kobe win without Shaq, and can Shaq win without Kobe? Kobe did it and became FMVP twice. Shaq got another one, although he was sitting on Wade's shoulders.

The next question: Can Lebron win without Wade and Bosh? How about the other way around? Well, damn, Wade already won a ring without Lebron and got FMVP. Therefore the onus is on Lebron to prove himself. Can he win without an FMVP in his team?

Kobe won with only 1 all star and shut the world up. The reason the world currently disrespect lebron is because of this. Yes, it's obvious as hell no one respects him. Look at ISH, reddit, any other nba discussion forum, no one really gives this guy respect. His NBA peers, past legends. Everyone knows he is the best player, but no one is really impressed. This guy simply can't get it done without getting bailed by his teammate at the end of games, and he is playing in a historically weak conference.

I will wait for him to prove me wrong by winning without 2 stars.. if not? He'll never earn my respect.

[ripthekik]

Kobe is factually worse.


rip, don't do em like that. He was probably just trolling anyway. No way someone makes that kind of post on a basketball message board without implied irony.
lol, trust me, dude is dead serious. It isn't the first time I seen him do this, with the same 'I'm-saving-you-tone' :oldlol:. No way someone who is good at their job would waste their time analyzing a message board, and get it all wrong :roll:

[pauk]

Nobody fears that nikka:roll:

What is it then? You tell me..... you have every single reason to fear & loath and underrate/discredit whatever Lebron is doing as example a Kobe stan or even a Jordan stan (i dont take into account the objective Kobe/Jordan etc. fans, i am one of those myself)....

I mean he by the age of 28 has accomplished more than even Michael Jordan at 28.... and is already a top 10 player and already many would say had a better career than even Kobe Bryant already..... with that being said we all know where his pace is headed at.... and some people really dont like that, especially if you are a Kobe stan, Kobe had 0 MVPs and didnt win a championship as the man until he was 30-31.... while others are not haters there are still fans who are still shocked in disbelief or just simply it hasnt sinked in yet how good Lebron has been so far and how good he is and where he will end up when its all said and done....

While piling up all the accolades & peak at a historic pace he is also arguably the most unique player to ever lace up a pair of shoes, with his skills & athleticism at 6'9-260 it gives him unheard amount of versatility on both ends which logically makes him overall the most complete player to ever play this game aswell (easily the most complete/versatile player i ever seen at least)........ the stats dont lie and neither does the accolades/results...

Lebron is EVERYTHING your favorite player couldnt ever be but YOU WANTED HIM TO BE........

You have ALL the reason in the world to fear & loath Lebron if you aint a Lebron fan or an objective/intelligent NBA basketball fan....

After you read this all you can respond with is "LMAO" or come with some other delusional excuses to discredit what i just said or discredit Lebron....... But deep down inside I KNOW you know what is infront of your eyes, all of you.... and by the time he retires you will be facepalming at yourself your entire life for not appreciating what kindof player you just witnessed........... this guy is THAT GOOD........

[moe94]

Pauk, this is why we can't have nice things. It's New Years. Stop.

[pmj]

Kobe didn't want to be second best, like he was always with Shaq. He would have ended up like a second pipped.

That's ALOT different than having good role players while still being the best like Lebron is now. No one thinks Wade or Bosh is better than Lebron.