Explain why Pau Gasol is worth a first rounder

[KyrieTheFuture]

I would love to see what you Laker fans can come up with. Everyone knows "washed up" players who are hated by their fan base are not worth 1st rounders especially in this draft. Any team would rather have a rookie contract than Gasol.

[WeGetRing2012]

Gasol is a proven battle tested veteran who can provide some stability and reliability to a team full of immature players like the Cavs.

Edit: Oh he is also has a 19 mil expiring contract that can be used to sign more free agents.

Edit: And because Gortat is. ISH logic...

[Jameerthefear]

He isn't. Laker fans are delusional as usual.

[Mass Debator]

The Heat's first rounder, yes.

[Levity]

He's not, well at least not a lottery pick. No team will give the lakers a lottery pick for pau. 2nd round pick, sure. and maybe a contending team offers them their 20+ pick, but what contending team has room to absorb 20 mil back in salary, cause we all know lakers wont want to take anything back.

[imdaman99]

The Heat's first rounder, yes.
You really want the Heat to get Gasol? :oldlol: Someone to put a body on Hibbert????

No need to help the most stacked team in the league out anymore.

Amare for Gasol, don't know why it hasn't happened yet.

[dazzer87]

He isn't. Laker fans are delusional as usual.
This

[Sarcastic]

He's not worth a second rounder. The Cavs shouldn't give up any youth or picks for him at all.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

You really want the Heat to get Gasol? :oldlol: Someone to put a body on Hibbert????

No need to help the most stacked team in the league out anymore.

Amare for Gasol, don't know why it hasn't happened yet.
what does this do for the lakers?

[imdaman99]

what does this do for the lakers?
What does keeping Gasol do? You think Amare turns them into a playoff team? He continues the tank, and next year I'm sure Dantoni can work wonders with him and revive his career.

[WeGetRing2012]

He's not, well at least not a lottery pick. No team will give the lakers a lottery pick for pau. 2nd round pick, sure. and maybe a contending team offers them their 20+ pick, but what contending team has room to absorb 20 mil back in salary, cause we all know lakers wont want to take anything back.

Suns. They are pretty much in the playoffs at this point and they need a big man on their squad (Okafor hasnt played all year). Their pick is projected to be in the late 20's & they have two other picks in the 1st round so they can afford to let one go. It would need to be a 3 team trade like the one I proposed in my thread.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Assuming his emotional state allows him to play his best (his game seems to wax and wane with the strength of trade rumors) Gasol is good enough to push Cleveland firmly into the playoffs. If he provides leadership as a vet presence they could even have a winning record. That could be worth it to have a respectable team for the first time since James left.

The way they struck out with Bennett it may be a sign from the heavens that they should stop collecting lottery picks, some winning would be a good change-up. Give the fans a reason to cheer.

That's just the reasoning I think would be behind doing that kind of deal, not saying I advocate it. I'd be on the fence.

[Jameerthefear]

Suns. They are pretty much in the playoffs at this point and they need a big man on their squad (Okafor hasnt played all year). Their pick is projected to be in the late 20's & they have two other picks in the 1st round so they can afford to let one go. It would need to be a 3 team trade like the one I proposed in my thread.
Gasol wants big money. There is no point trading a pick for an old player that will be there for a couple months.

[Levity]

What does keeping Gasol do?.

removes 20 mil off their salary next year.

[GASOL IS GOAT]

Pau Gasol makes the Cavs contenders in the east .

Win win both sides.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

What does keeping Gasol do? You think Amare turns them into a playoff team? He continues the tank, and next year I'm sure Dantoni can work wonders with him and revive his career.
yeah, not happening.

[alec613]

He's not a lottery pick, that's for sure. I'd say 20+ to 2nd rd.

Don't really think Cavs have the leverage.
Either they get something out of Bynum or they waive him and let him sign with a contender for cheap.

So far, the Lakers are the only one interested in trading for Bynum.

[Jameerthefear]

Pau Gasol makes the Cavs contenders in the east .

Win win both sides.
you are so dumb

[scm5]

Pau is still very serviceable if used correctly. He's also a great piece for teams that want to contend right now.

Miami or OKC would easily give up a first round pick for Pau.

[WeGetRing2012]

Gasol wants big money. There is no point trading a pick for an old player that will be there for a couple months.

Cavs would have the cap space to offer him a lucrative 2/3 yr deal and still go after other free agents. (But that's only if they trade for him and get rid of Bynum)

[GASOL IS GOAT]

you are so dumb
How am I dumb Gasol+ Kyrie+Mike Brown=Successs. The cavs lack inside scoring which Gasol brings. Plus Gasol loves Mike Brown so this could work out.

[Mass Debator]

You really want the Heat to get Gasol? :oldlol: Someone to put a body on Hibbert????

No need to help the most stacked team in the league out anymore.

Amare for Gasol, don't know why it hasn't happened yet.
I was implying he's only worth a late first rounder. It's not like the Heat can afford him anyway.

[Jameerthefear]

Cavs would have the cap space to offer him a lucrative 2/3 yr deal and still go after other free agents. (But that's only if they trade for him and get rid of Bynum)
He isn't worth what he's asking for.

[WeGetRing2012]

He isn't worth what he's asking for.

To some teams he may be worth around 7-8mil for 2/3 yrs. Especially ones looking to contend.

[Mr. Jabbar]

cause we like to rip off other franchises :pimp:

[Jameerthefear]

To some teams he may be worth around 7-8mil for 2/3 yrs. Especially ones looking to contend.
He's not worth 7-8 mil/year for ANY team. Especially not a contending one. Stop kidding yourself.

[Sarcastic]

removes 20 mil off their salary next year.


For what? They are not gonna attract any free agents, and waiving Bynum clears more than enough space if they really want. Do you really think a max free agent is going to Cleveland?

[Levity]

For what? They are not gonna attract any free agents, and waiving Bynum clears more than enough space if they really want. Do you really think a max free agent is going to Cleveland?

i was talking about the lakers side of it. the question at hand was what does keeping gasol do for the lakers.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Why would a non contender want Gasol? Unless you can get rid of a bad contract by getting him... But then why would the Lakers do that?

[greymatter]

Amare for Gasol, don't know why it hasn't happened yet.

Trade for an injury ravaged guy averaging a career low in mpg getting paid 21M this season and 23M next season. By all means, make that happen. The brilliance of that GMing would make the likes of Otis Smith even blush.

[SavageMode]

Gasol was one of the of the pillars that brought the 09Lakers into relevance, He is definitely worth more than a first rounder.

[Myth]

It could make sense for a top team looking for some help at PF/C off the bench. Pau could help a team out that could use some length and experience. Additionally, teams often look to get out of the late first round to avoid guaranteed contracts.

Essentially, by a good team trading a 1st for Pau, they get Pau off the bench for a playoff run then they get more salary space for next season. Only problem is, I don't know what top level team has cap space.

[greymatter]

Given how he's looked these past couple seasons, he'd be lucky to sign anything higher than a 2 year deal worth more than 7-9 million per season. He turns 34 this year, been injured a lot, and has skipped games he could have played while citing illness. Not only is he soft, he now has the label of a quitter (might be tough to fault him due to how MDA has been using him).

The most any team would give up for him would be mid to late first round picks packaged with mediocre role players or expiring contracts.

[PleezeBelieve]

Lakers GM trying to save face after Grant ripped him off in the Sessions deal

[RedBlackAttack]

Gasol was one of the of the pillars that brought the 09Lakers into relevance, He is definitely worth more than a first rounder.
No, he's not... or he'd be traded by now. Maybe a late first... Maybe. If a team is desperate to make a playoff push and they need some length and scoring up front.

He was a great player at one time. No one is disputing that. Those days are over, though.

[TheBigVeto]

Gasol is the real 2 time FMVP, the best player of the Lakers and is clutch.

[IncarceratedBob]

he's great with the community, he loves to visit st Jude's hospitals, he donates huge amounts to sick kids. If that isn't worth a first rounder then idk what is

[I<3NBA]

Laker fans in a convoluted fix. they've hated on the guy for so long and has called him trash but now they wanna trade him and say he has high value :lol