Finals Performance: Lebron without Wade and Wade without Lebron

[ripthekik]

Let's start with Lebron finals performance without Wade:
This would be the 4 games in 2007 against Spurs:
22 ppg, 7 rpg, 6.8 apg, 1 spg on 35.6 FG%, 69 ft% and 5.75 TOpg

How about Wade without Lebron?
This would be the 2006 finals vs Mavs
34.4ppg, 7.8 rpg, 3.8 apg, 2.7 spg on 46.8 FG% and 77 FT% and 3.6 TOpg

Wade ended up with the Championship and FMVP, and ESPN listed it as the #1 final performance of all time: http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/story/_/page/FinalsPerformances-1/greatest-finals-performances-no-1

We all know how Lebron's turned out. :confusedshrug:

[tmacattack33]

So it's Wade with Shaq vs Lebron with Daniel Gibson?

Very fair, I agree.

[STATUTORY]

:roll: that 2007 "finals" run is so overrated

if Cleveland was in the west, he would been bounced in the 1st round by the same Spurs team


So it's Wade with Shaq vs Lebron with Daniel Gibson?

Very fair, I agree.

u forgetting 20ppg and elite perimeter defender larry hughes on that team?

[ripthekik]

So it's Wade with Shaq vs Lebron with Daniel Gibson?

Very fair, I agree.
What did that Shaq average in the finals? I wouldn't be surprise if Gibson had better stats than him :oldlol:

Btw, if lebronstans feel like bringing Kobe into this, feel free to do Finals performance: Shaq without Kobe and Kobe without Shaq. I haven't done it and I'm curious too.

[LeGOAT]

Very thought provoking and original thread. Ground breaking stuff.

[guy]

Wade was also without Lebron in 2011. :banana: :pimp: :cheers: :D :hammerhead:

[clutchinho]

Wade was also without Lebron in 2011. :banana: :pimp: :cheers: :D :hammerhead:

:applause:

[Lebron23]

Lebron = 2 finals MVP in 11 years
Kobe 2 Finals MVP in 18 years

Lebron first Finals appearance >> Kobe's 1st Finals appearance.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Lebron = 2 finals MVP in 11 years
Kobe 2 Finals MVP in 18 years

Lebron first Finals appearance >> Kobe's 1st Finals appearance.

did you put santa hat on lebron before or after xmas mvp?

[ripthekik]

Lebron = 2 finals MVP in 11 years
Kobe 2 Finals MVP in 18 years

Lebron first Finals appearance >> Kobe's 1st Finals appearance.
Lebron rings with less than 2 all star teammates = 0
Kobe rings with less than 2 all star teammates = 5

Lebron's first Finals appearance = lost
Kobe's first Finals appearance = Championship :pimp:

[red1]

Lebron rings with less than 2 all star teammates = 0
Kobe rings with less than 2 all star teammates = 5

Lebron's first Finals appearance = lost
Kobe's first Finals appearance = Championship :pimp:
yet he is still clearly the inferior player :roll:

[Lebron23]

Lebron rings with less than 2 all star teammates = 0
Kobe rings with less than 2 all star teammates = 5

Lebron's first Finals appearance = lost
Kobe's first Finals appearance = Championship :pimp:


Both rose and miller out played him in that series.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Lebron rings with less than 2 all star teammates = 0
Kobe rings with less than 2 all star teammates = 5

Lebron's first Finals appearance = lost
Kobe's first Finals appearance = Championship :pimp:

damn, dont do him like that...

[Bandito]

Both rose and miller out played him in that series.
He was playing injured though...and let's not pretend Miller's a scrub like out of his prime Shawn Marion.

[Lebron23]

He was playing injured though...and let's not pretend Miller's a scrub like out of his prime Shawn Marion.

Miller was also 34/35 yrs.old just like Terry. It was Mike Bibby who defended Terry him in the Finals.

[ripthekik]

Both rose and miller out played him in that series.
Jason Terry outplayed Lebron in his prime.

[Lebron23]

Jason Terry outplayed Lebron in his prime.

Lebron beat his team 1 year later in the conference finals. Great revenge.

[red1]

Jason Terry outplayed Lebron in his prime.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BE77daXCcAA3FHV.jpg

[Bandito]

Miller was also 34/35 yrs.old just like Terry. It was Mike Bibby who defended Terry him in the Finals.
But Terry outplayed Lebron, and he wasn't even injured:lol

[Mr. Jabbar]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BE77daXCcAA3FHV.jpg

u forget for every shot miss there is shot made if u have a patient

[ripthekik]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BE77daXCcAA3FHV.jpg
at the bottom of the image it forgot to say in gold: 5 rings. He doesn't care.

btw this topic is bout Wade and Lebron doe:confusedshrug:

[red1]

But Terry outplayed Lebron, and he wasn't even injured:lol
actually this is false, his feelings were hurt

[red1]

at the bottom of the image it forgot to say in gold: 5 rings. He doesn't care.

btw this topic is bout Wade and Lebron doe:confusedshrug:
k then lets it get it back on track



















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[Fudge]

Dem Bran stans constantly getting clowned on tho.

[Bandito]

k then lets it get it back on track















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OMG look at Bosh:roll:

[ripthekik]

k then lets it get it back on track



















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Their final performances without each other doe :confusedshrug:

Interesting to say, their performances were only 1 year apart, 2006 and 2007 :applause:

[Mr. Jabbar]

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/attachement/jpg/site1/20130622/00221917e13e132f41143b.jpg

man that shit has "given not earned" written all over it

[red1]

OMG look at Bosh:roll:
how can you not love the guy

[Mr. Jabbar]

lol red1 changed the pic cause lebron appeared with too many of his franchise players :roll:

[red1]

Their final performances without each other doe :confusedshrug:

Interesting to say, their performances were only 1 year apart, 2006 and 2007 :applause:
two-time and three-time nba champions :applause: nothing but respect

[red1]

lol red1 changed the pic cause lebron appeared with too many of his franchise players :roll:
:oldlol:

[Bandito]

how can you not love the guy
I can't actually. I wish he was traded for Bosh to the Lakers all those years ago:(

[ripthekik]

two-time and three-time nba champions :applause: nothing but respect
Why does one have three and the other only two?

[red1]

Why does one have three and the other only two?
Its over bro:lol no one will take you serious. You are trying to clown a 4-time mvp with two championships and two fmvps. Go troll melo or something

[Lebron23]

Its over bro:lol no one will take you serious. You are trying to clown a 4-time mvp with two championships and two fmvps. Go troll melo or something


Melo is not even worth trolling. I wish Iverson could have play with Cleveland Lebron. Denver Iverson was a better player than Mo Williams and Larry Hughes.

[Bandito]

Melo is not even worth trolling. I wish Iverson could have play with Cleveland Lebron. Denver Iverson was a better player than Mo Williams and Larry Hughes.
2011 would've happen anyways so Iverson would still retire ringless...

[Bigsmoke]

Let's start with Lebron finals performance without Wade:
This would be the 4 games in 2007 against Spurs:
22 ppg, 7 rpg, 6.8 apg, 1 spg on 35.6 FG%, 69 ft% and 5.75 TOpg

How about Wade without Lebron?
This would be the 2006 finals vs Mavs
34.4ppg, 7.8 rpg, 3.8 apg, 2.7 spg on 46.8 FG% and 77 FT% and 3.6 TOpg

Wade ended up with the Championship and FMVP, and ESPN listed it as the #1 final performance of all time: http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2012/story/_/page/FinalsPerformances-1/greatest-finals-performances-no-1

We all know how Lebron's turned out. :confusedshrug:

congrates

you are the biggest LeBron stan on this planet.

[ripthekik]

Melo is not even worth trolling. I wish Iverson could have play with Cleveland Lebron. Denver Iverson was a better player than Mo Williams and Larry Hughes.
Seeing as red1 was lost as to how to answer my question, how about you lebron23? Why does one have three, and the other only two?

p.s. please dont reply with an irrelevant statline, or lebron mvps or smth:oldlol:

[Trollsmasher]

OP:
http://apisegs.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/christoph_kolumbus.jpg

[red1]

Seeing as red1 was lost as to how to answer my question, how about you lebron23? Why does one have three, and the other only two?

p.s. please dont reply with an irrelevant statline, or lebron mvps or smth:oldlol:
Go look their teammates up. Then go look at kobe's number of missed shots for his career. Then go cry yourself to sleep with your kobe jersey on

[Lebron23]

2011 would've happen anyways so Iverson would still retire ringless...

Replace Mo Williams with Denver Iverson, and they would have beaten the Orlando Magic in the conference Finals.

[Solefade]

Lebron >>>>>>>>>> kobe

[Illuminati]

LeBron > Kobe, can't believe OP still hasn't gotten over it. :oldlol:

[ripthekik]

LeBron > Kobe, can't believe OP still hasn't gotten over it. :oldlol:
Lebron stans, still can't get over the fact that the only way lebron could win was to join a stacked team :oldlol:

[Solefade]

Lebron stans, still can't get over the fact that the only way lebron could win was to join a stacked team :oldlol:


And the only time Kobe has won was when he had the best team that season


Lebron >>>>>>>>> Kobe

[Mr. Jabbar]

And the only time Kobe has won was when he had the best team that season

:biggums:

2010 celtics > 2010 lakers

[Illuminati]

Lebron stans, still can't get over the fact that the only way lebron could win was to join a stacked team :oldlol:

Kobe stans still can't get over the fact that he cried and cried that he wasn't going to play for any other franchise other than the greatest of them all in Los Angeles. Can you imagine him having to carry a bum franchise like the Charlotte Hornets? :oldlol:

[russwest0]

Jason Terry outplayed Lebron in his prime.

Lmao thats true. And we're talking about in the finals too. Damn thats rough for LeBrons legacy.

[branslowski]

Lmao thats true. And we're talking about in the finals too. Damn thats rough for LeBrons legacy.

Had n!ggas makin LeBron "Where's Waldo" photoshops of his 4th quarters after that finals.:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Solefade]

:biggums:

2010 celtics > 2010 lakers

No Perkins in game 7, y'all would have lost.

[I<3NBA]

Let's start with Lebron finals performance without Wade:
This would be the 4 games in 2007 against Spurs:
22 ppg, 7 rpg, 6.8 apg, 1 spg on 35.6 FG%, 69 ft% and 5.75 TOpg

How about Wade without Lebron?
This would be the 2006 finals vs Mavs
34.4ppg, 7.8 rpg, 3.8 apg, 2.7 spg on 46.8 FG% and 77 FT% and 3.6 TOpg
Lebron actually put up quite good stats considering he was the entire focus of the Spurs' defense (and this was at the prime of Spurs big 3 with a dominant defensive TD)

Wade had Shaq drawing defenses. That was why Shaq was limited that series. he drew all the attention to free up Wade. it worked. they won. Lebron had no one like Shaq.

the handicap Lebron had that series was so unfair. on his side, he had Mike Brown coaching against none other than Popovich :yaohappy: and for his teammates, i can't even remember one that can rival Manu Ginobili, the 3rd best player in the Spurs big 3.

[PickernRoller]

Lebron making his team mates worse? Non-news to anyone that isn't a Lebron c0ck sucker.

Look at Bosh numbers. Go back to the Cavs days - look at Mo's numbers. Doesn't get tiring to say he's an ego maniac obsessed with stats and himself. Bad influence for the game. Just look at KD - obsessed.

[talamo]

And the only time Kobe has won was when he had the best team that season


Lebron >>>>>>>>> Kobe

the best team always wins.. or is that not how it works?

[Deuce Bigalow]

35.6%, 5.75 t/o

http://philly.barstoolsports.com/files/2013/02/jordan-laugh-cigar.jpg

[zoom17]

Lebron = 2 finals MVP in 11 years
Kobe 2 Finals MVP in 18 years

Lebron first Finals appearance >> Kobe's 1st Finals appearance.

:applause:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Lebron = 2
Kobe = 5
:applause:

[SavageMode]

Kobe with 2 Finals MVPS in 7 Finals
Lebron with 2 Final MVPS in 4 Finals
:roll:

Kobe with the GOAT center Shaq :Roll:

Lebron 13-6 against Kobe Head-to-Head :roll:

[Genaro]

Replace Mo Williams with Denver Iverson, and they would have beaten the Orlando Magic in the conference Finals.
They wouldn't. Cavs lost 'cause they had no answer to Dwight. Iverson wouldn't be this answer. '

[Bandito]

Kobe with 2 Finals MVPS in 7 Finals
Lebron with 2 Final MVPS in 4 Finals
:roll:

Kobe with the GOAT center Shaq :Roll:

Lebron 13-6 against Kobe Head-to-Head :roll:
Could you please get new material to troll please:facepalm

Stop the copypasta!!!

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe 5
Lebron 2
:applause:

[SavageMode]

:applause:
Kobe carried by Shaq and rigged 2002 WCF = 3 FMVP
= minus 3 rings
Kobe carried by Gasol and Bynum(Both were all stars in simultaneous years)
= minus 1 ring

Kobe with 1 asterisk Ring with Ron Artest saving Kobe's 6-24 game 7 performance.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe 5 rings
:applause:

[ripthekik]

So many lebron tards coming out with irrelevant stats..

Hey ssvagemode, you like to bring up kobe and shaq so much, show me shaq finals stats without kobe and kobe final stats without shaq. Lets see how kobe does without him, eh?

[knicksman]

And the only time Kobe has won was when he had the best team that season


Lebron >>>>>>>>> Kobe

at least he won. lebron lost :oldlol:

[knicksman]

Kobe with 2 Finals MVPS in 7 Finals
Lebron with 2 Final MVPS in 4 Finals
:roll:

Kobe with the GOAT center Shaq :Roll:

Lebron 13-6 against Kobe Head-to-Head :roll:


lebron mvp to rings ratio

4:2

wilt
4:2

:lol

[ripthekik]

lebron mvp to rings ratio

4:2

wilt
4:2

:lol
They share a lot of similarities. Both had the greatest ppg dropoff in the finals :lol

[Deuce Bigalow]

lebron mvp to rings ratio

4:2

wilt
4:2

:lol
You can say that Lebron is the Wilt Chamberlain of this generation :lol

[Dave3]

u forgetting 20ppg and elite perimeter defender larry hughes on that team?
That's like calling Nash the 19/4/12 repeat MVP on the Lakers.