Cavs will always be Cavs... trading for R Jefferson lol

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1h
Sources tell ESPN that Cavs remain in Bynum-for-Pau talks with Lakers but also now engaged with Jazz on potential deal for R. Jefferson

lol...whats the point of all those draft picks if they are going to use on Bennett and Tristan Thompson?

[IncarceratedBob]

Richard Jefferson is a better player than Pau Gasol nowadays.

[SpecialQue]

I approve of this trade.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Who needs draft picks when you can trade 4 of them for Steve Nashs corpse?

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Who needs draft picks when you can trade 4 of them for Steve Nashs corpse?

lol ya..difference between lakers and cave....Good Luck picking up another bust in 2014 draft

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Richard Jefferson is a better player than Pau Gasol nowadays.

spoken like a true retard that u r

[HylianNightmare]

like it for the cavs

[DStebb716]

Ever heard of a salary dump?

[DStebb716]

Richard Jefferson is a better player than Pau Gasol nowadays.

It's kind of weird that you're that obsessed with a fake twitter insider that you impersonate him.

[Bandito]

funny thing is anything is better than Bynum these days...

[Scholar]

funny thing is anything is better than Bynum these days...

Steve Nash's corpse >>>

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

how the fck did jefferson end up getting paid 11 million this season?

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

how the fck did jefferson end up getting paid 11 million this season?

he slept with Tim Duncan and Spurs gave him that contract to shut his mouth

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

he slept with Tim Duncan and Spurs gave him that contract to shut his mouth
:eek: :eek:

[hawkfan]

If Utah gets Bynum, that's with the intention of waiving him immediately to save dough, right?

Hopefully Bynum can then come to Atlanta on a minimum deal for the rest of the season filling in some of the minutes that went to Al Horford.

[alenleomessi]

If Utah gets Bynum, that's with the intention of waiving him immediately to save dough, right?

Hopefully Bynum can then come to Atlanta on a minimum deal for the rest of the season filling in some of the minutes that went to Al Horford.
not happy with antic you dumass?

[NumberSix]

Cavs gonna Cav.


#cityoflosers

[Pra]

Well... they are in dire need of veterans.... never heard of R Jefferson being a locker room cancer or anything.

[Bandito]

RJef could become what Fisher became to Kobe no?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Sounds like they're seeking a vet leader. I don't think RJ is a great difference maker either but Cleveland is probably sick of the lottery and just seeing what can be done to have a decent year.

[NattyPButter]

Damn how many vets a team needs? Team already has Varejao, Jack and even CJ Miles as vets. Hell i still think the assistant coach should had got fired instead of throwing out Bynum.

[TimmyDuncan]

Ever heard of a salary dump?

It makes no sense for either team.
Cavs doing a salary dump? They just have to waive Bynum
Jazz doing a salary dump? Jefferson's contract end this year and they are under the salary cap.

So that means Cavs really think Jefferson could help them and it's just not true. Even if he has a good 3pt % this season, the guy is done. He had good 3pt % for the spurs too in the regular season but he disappeared in the playoff

[MP.Trey]

Damn how many vets a team needs? Team already has Varejao, Jack and even CJ Miles as vets. Hell i still think the assistant coach should had got fired instead of throwing out Bynum.
Are you serious or just trolling cause I seriously can't tell. :oldlol:

We're the second youngest team in the league. C.J. Miles has been in the league for a few years now, but he's by no means a veteran presence on or off the court, has struggled to get starter minutes all his career. Jack is who the Cavs thought could provide that veteran leadership, but the pickup hasn't exactly worked out, he's not vocal at all and his playing style clashes with Kyrie's too much. Varejao's really our only true veteran presence and is basically the heart and soul of this team.

At this point, the second youngest team in the league, playing below expectations, more than one or two veterans are needed. It's not a coincidence all the championship contenders average the highest aged rosters in the league (Heat, Spurs, Pacers, etc.)

[chips93]

Damn how many vets a team needs? Team already has Varejao, Jack and even CJ Miles as vets. Hell i still think the assistant coach should had got fired instead of throwing out Bynum.

what do you mean? which coach are you talking about?

[NattyPButter]

Are you serious or just trolling cause I seriously can't tell. :oldlol:

We're the second youngest team in the league. C.J. Miles has been in the league for a few years now, but he's by no means a veteran presence on or off the court, has struggled to get starter minutes all his career. Jack is who the Cavs thought could provide that veteran leadership, but the pickup hasn't exactly worked out, he's not vocal at all and his playing style clashes with Kyrie's too much. Varejao's really our only true veteran presence and is basically the heart and soul of this team.

At this point, the second youngest team in the league, playing below expectations, more than one or two veterans are needed. It's not a coincidence all the championship contenders average the highest aged rosters in the league (Heat, Spurs, Pacers, etc.)

Miles has been in the League the same amount of time as Jack. Jack is vocal and what does his playing style clashing with Kyrie has to do with vet presence? Signing Jefferson doesn't mean crap...he can come in and be silent as a mouse. Not many ppl are going to go to a new team and start checking players that been there all ready and have a star player. Jefferson is a nobody and just another aging scrub on the Cavs team. Jamison, Walton and jack all did crap as vets to help the team. Team needs vets that can actually contribute and are still good and thats what the teams u named off have.

[hawkfan]

Damn how many vets a team needs? Team already has Varejao, Jack and even CJ Miles as vets. Hell i still think the assistant coach should had got fired instead of throwing out Bynum.

Anderson Varejao can come down to the Hawks this summer for 4 years, 32 million to become our starting center, with Horford, Millsap, Carroll, Nogueira in the front court beside him. And whoever we end up drafting.

[MP.Trey]

Miles has been in the League the same amount of time as Jack. Jack is vocal and what does his playing style clashing with Kyrie has to do with vet presence? Signing Jefferson doesn't mean crap...he can come in and be silent as a mouse. Not many ppl are going to go to a new team and start checking players that been there all ready and have a star player. Jefferson is a nobody and just another aging scrub on the Cavs team. Jamison, Walton and jack all did crap as vets to help the team. Team needs vets that can actually contribute and are still good and thats what the teams u named off have.
While I agree that Jefferson isn't exactly the answer, that doesn't mean vets are a bad thing.

You think Jack and Miles are good veteran leaders/examples, I don't, just a matter of opinion I suppose. I certainly haven't seen or heard of Jack making any impact in the locker room and certainly haven't seen much on the court translating to success, same with Miles despite his hot shooting start. Plus Jamison/Walton are bad examples, considering the fact that we didn't need veterans when we signed them. Jamison was hurt most of the time we had him and we already had Shaq, Big Z, Anthony Parker, etc. And when we signed Walton, we still had Jamison/Parker and the team had a lot less expectations.

Given the fact that we are underachieving and chemistry is apart of that. I don't see how bringing in another, more seasoned, veteran locker room presence can hurt. Having someone who's been to the Finals (whether it be Jefferson or someone else) can only help as long as you're not giving up any important piece, imo.

[RedBlackAttack]

The move makes sense. Basically, they're trading expiring contracts. Bynum for Jefferson. Since Bynum will never play another minute as a Cavalier, why not try to address the team's most glaring weaknesses while not taking a cap hit?

The Cavs need a veteran presence badly on this team. Check.

They need outside shooting. Check.

They need a small forward badly. Check.

The Lakers are seriously asking for a young prospect or draft pick for Gasol. :oldlol:

Good luck with that. Honestly, I would rather have Jefferson than Gasol anyways. All Gasol is going to do is maybe make us marginally better while taking away key playing time from our young bigs.

We have no one at the 3 to worry about Jefferson stealing minutes from.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

The move makes sense. Basically, they're trading expiring contracts. Bynum for Jefferson. Since Bynum will never play another minute as a Cavalier, why not try to address the team's most glaring weaknesses while not taking a cap hit?

The Cavs need a veteran presence badly on this team. Check.

They need outside shooting. Check.

They need a small forward badly. Check.

The Lakers are seriously asking for a young prospect or draft pick for Gasol. :oldlol:

Good luck with that. Honestly, I would rather have Jefferson than Gasol anyways. All Gasol is going to do is maybe make us marginally better while taking away key playing time from our young bigs.

We have no one at the 3 to worry about Jefferson stealing minutes from.

:biggums: :banghead:

then i realize you are a Cavs fan and i understood...no worries

[TheMarkMadsen]

Jefferson is an expirer.. good move

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

jazz are set @56mil.

Doing this trade & waiving bynum will bring them to 50Mil which is lower then the expected cap

[iTare]

:applause:

[jbryan1984]

I really don't see anything wrong with it. Bynum has made it clear he don't wanna play with us, Jefferson is an expirer. We need a small forward. Do you not understand how the business end works? Are you the guy who said why would the Suns trade Shaq for Sasha Pavlovic in 2009? Also, you must not of ever watched Tristan play if you think drafting him was a mistake. In the 2011 draft, I really think we picked the best two available at the #1 and #4 spot.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

I really don't see anything wrong with it. Bynum has made it clear he don't wanna play with us, Jefferson is an expirer. We need a small forward. Do you not understand how the business end works? Are you the guy who said why would the Suns trade Shaq for Sasha Pavlovic in 2009? Also, you must not of ever watched Tristan play if you think drafting him was a mistake. In the 2011 draft, I really think we picked the best two available at the #1 and #4 spot.

5th pick Jonas Valanciunas
11th pick Klay Thompson
15th pick Kawhi Leonard
16th pick Nikola Vucevic
22nd pick Kenneth Faried

all better then Tristan Thompson.. i would have drafted klay thompson

[NattyPButter]

I really don't see anything wrong with it. Bynum has made it clear he don't wanna play with us, Jefferson is an expirer. We need a small forward. Do you not understand how the business end works? Are you the guy who said why would the Suns trade Shaq for Sasha Pavlovic in 2009? Also, you must not of ever watched Tristan play if you think drafting him was a mistake. In the 2011 draft, I really think we picked the best two available at the #1 and #4 spot.
He did? Source? Last I heard he had no problem playing for the Cavs.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Only Andre Drummond was a prospect who had any shot getting picked at 4. Gotta love revisionist history. Not one person would have picked Klay, or Kawhi, at 4.

[RedBlackAttack]

Only Andre Drummond was a prospect who had any shot getting picked at 4. Gotta love revisionist history. Not one person would have picked Klay, or Kawhi, at 4.
Everyone is a draft guru years after the fact. Most people were saying Thomas Robinson was the best guy available at 4 in the Drummond draft.

In 2011, Thompson turned out to be a perfectly fine pick at 4. He's still very young with a lot of room to grow, is an incredibly hard worker and he already averages a double-double. That's hardly a "miss."

You look at the guy Washington took... Jan Vesely. That's what a miss looks like.

Hell, Thompson has had a much better start to his career than the supposed second best player in the draft, Derrick Williams. A lot of people were saying the Cavs should go with Williams/Knight at 1/4.

[B-Easy8]

Classic Cavs move right here.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

somebody is about to get mitch-slapped

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10244821/los-angeles-lakers-cleveland-cavaliers-make-progress-andrew-byum-deal

[Bibby4Three]

5th pick Jonas Valanciunas
11th pick Klay Thompson
15th pick Kawhi Leonard
16th pick Nikola Vucevic
22nd pick Kenneth Faried

all better then Tristan Thompson.. i would have drafted klay thompson


Hindsights 20/20 buddy.

:hammerhead: