Which Game Was More Impressive? LeBron's 52 Point Triple-Double or Kobe's 81?

[Illuminati]

When I was at school last week, I was playing ball with a couple of my friends, once we beat them badly we discussed about the NBA. My friend brought up Kobe's 81 point game and said it was the most impressive game he's ever seen, my other friend (who's a LeBron stan) said he witnessed, court-side LeBron's 52 point triple-double and he said it was the most impressive thing he's ever seen, this debate was going on for the entire day.

So ISH, which one do you think is more impressive?

LeBron's 52 Point Triple-Double: http://youtu.be/kk5OoleDNuE

Kobe's 81: http://youtu.be/FeXZY4eVLlo

[KyrieTheFuture]

Only selfish people would choose 81

[Budadiiii]

Why would you make up a story?

Anyways....

Kobes was more impressive.

[Illuminati]

Why would you make up a story?

Anyways....

Kobes was more impressive.

Who's making up a story wtf.

[blood yes]

So you had school on christmas?

Obvious agenda is obvious

[moe94]

Kobe.

[TheMarkMadsen]

81

both are rare feats but there have been more impressive trip dubs in NBA history (KAJ, D Rob, Shaq, Fat Lever) all come to mind

while there's only one scoring performance better than Kobe's,and it came from a 7'1 giant playing in the 60's (to be done by a 6'6 guard was impressive)

for that reason I take 81

[DFish24]

LeBron Stans: Triple Double
Everyone else: 81

[Budadiiii]

So you had school on christmas?

Obvious agenda is obvious
Everyone has school Christmas/New Year's week... didn't you know? :oldlol:

[Magic 32]

Lebron had 9 rebounds.

[Illuminati]

So you had school on christmas?

Obvious agenda is obvious

It's passed 12AM here. Every Sunday is considered the new week. Stop ignoring the question.

[Deuce Bigalow]

What's Lebron's "52 point triple double"? Probably have to rewatch the bighlights or something because I forgot. I'll go with the most memorable performance OF ALL-TIME, simply known as "81".

[Magic 32]

When I was at school last week, I was playing ball with a couple of my friends, once we beat them badly we discussed about the NBA. My friend brought up Kobe's 81 point game and said it was the most impressive game he's ever seen, my other friend (who's a LeBron stan) said he witnessed, court-side LeBron's 52 point triple-double and he said it was the most impressive thing he's ever seen, this debate was going on for the entire day.

So ISH, which one do you think is more impressive?

LeBron's 52 Point Triple-Double: http://youtu.be/kk5OoleDNuE

Kobe's 81: http://youtu.be/FeXZY4eVLlo

If only Kobe was a better rebound statpadder...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200804230LAL.html

[fpliii]

Who's making up a story wtf.

He was retroactively stripped of the TD after a rebound was found to have been tapped by Ben Wallace. Something similar happened with one of Hakeems quad doubles.

There have only been 6 50-point triple doubles:

Wilt Chamberlain (PHI vs LAL) 03/18/1968 53p 32r 14a
Elgin Baylor (LAL vs STL) 12/13/1961 52p 25r 10a
Wilt Chamberlain (SFW vs DET) 02/13/1963 51p 29r 11a
Richie Guerin (NYK vs PHI) 02/25/1962 50p 11r 13a
Elgin Baylor (LAL vs BOS) 02/13/1963 50p 15r 11a
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (MIL vs POR) 01/19/1975 50p 15r 11a

[SamuraiSWISH]

Both came in the regular season, against shit competition. Neither. How about David Robinson's 71 v.s. the '95 Clippers while we're at it, listing regular season games against terrible, meaningless opponents with no spotlight or pressure.

[Deuce Bigalow]

He was retroactively stripped of the TD after a rebound was found to have been tapped by Ben Wallace. Something similar happened with one of Hakeems quad doubles.

There have only been 6 50-point triple doubles:

Wilt Chamberlain (PHI vs LAL) 03/18/1968 53p 52r 14a
Elgin Baylor (LAL vs STL) 12/13/1961 52p 25r 10a
Wilt Chamberlain (SFW vs DET) 02/13/1963 51p 29r 11a
Richie Guerin (NYK vs PHI) 02/25/1962 50p 11r 13a
Elgin Baylor (LAL vs BOS) 02/13/1963 50p 15r 11a
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (MIL vs POR) 01/19/1975 50p 15r 11a
Fpliii with the goods
OP :oldlol: **** the illuminati:lol

[Illuminati]

He was retroactively stripped of the TD after a rebound was found to have been tapped by Ben Wallace. Something similar happened with one of Hakeems quad doubles.

There have only been 6 50-point triple doubles:

Wilt Chamberlain (PHI vs LAL) 03/18/1968 53p 52r 14a
Elgin Baylor (LAL vs STL) 12/13/1961 52p 25r 10a
Wilt Chamberlain (SFW vs DET) 02/13/1963 51p 29r 11a
Richie Guerin (NYK vs PHI) 02/25/1962 50p 11r 13a
Elgin Baylor (LAL vs BOS) 02/13/1963 50p 15r 11a
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (MIL vs POR) 01/19/1975 50p 15r 11a

:wtf:

You learn something new everyday, wow.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=290204018 you're right. I didn't know that.

[TheMarkMadsen]

He was retroactively stripped of the TD after a rebound was found to have been tapped by Ben Wallace. Something similar happened with one of Hakeems quad doubles.

There have only been 6 50-point triple doubles:

Wilt Chamberlain (PHI vs LAL) 03/18/1968 53p 52r 14a
Elgin Baylor (LAL vs STL) 12/13/1961 52p 25r 10a
Wilt Chamberlain (SFW vs DET) 02/13/1963 51p 29r 11a
Richie Guerin (NYK vs PHI) 02/25/1962 50p 11r 13a
Elgin Baylor (LAL vs BOS) 02/13/1963 50p 15r 11a
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (MIL vs POR) 01/19/1975 50p 15r 11a


http://24.media.tumblr.com/61e7768938d9f8a17bc7debecc42f0cc/tumblr_mjsknuCzzy1qbz6c0o2_400.gif

[fpliii]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/61e7768938d9f8a17bc7debecc42f0cc/tumblr_mjsknuCzzy1qbz6c0o2_400.gif

Typo, 32 rebounds. Sorry.

[D.J.]

A 50 point triple-double has been done 6 times. Kobe's 81 points is the most after Wilt's 100.

[Droid101]

:wtf:

You learn something new everyday, wow.

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=290204018 you're right. I didn't know that.
Props for actually admitting you are wrong. I will remove you from my ignore list until you mess up again.

[Im so nba'd out]

ill go with jordan scoring 63 points as a rookie in the playoffs..THREAD OVER................

[TheMarkMadsen]

Typo, 32 rebounds. Sorry.


i was about to say GOAT stat line :bowdown:

[ripthekik]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

wow, 2nd time OP exposed with posting BS tonight.. lebron stans.. keep making them imaginary stats up :roll: :roll:

Let this thread educate everyone that there is no such game
Trying to compare a legendary 81 point game against an imaginary game is an insult.

[blood yes]

It's passed 12AM here. Every Sunday is considered the new week. Stop ignoring the question.
So you went to school on sunday?

Ur slippin my man

[Deuce Bigalow]

ill go with jordan scoring 63 points as a rookie in the playoffs..THREAD OVER................
As a rookie? :no:

[jlip]

A 50 point triple-double has been done 6 times. Kobe's 81 points is the most after Wilt's 100.

This

[Im so nba'd out]

As a rookie? :no:
lol you caught me i thought we could lie in this thread and get away with it....OP DID :coleman:

[Illuminati]

A 50 point triple-double has been done 6 times. Kobe's 81 points is the most after Wilt's 100.

Clearly says in the thread title 52 point triple-double, not 50. A 52 point TD has been done 2 times in NBA history. But fpiii pointed out the rebound didn't count.


Props for actually admitting you are wrong. I will remove you from my ignore list until you mess up again.

**** you. I'll put you on my ignore list first, bitch.


wow, 2nd time OP exposed with posting BS tonight.. lebron stans.. keep making them imaginary stats up :roll: :roll:

Let this thread educate everyone that there is no such game
Trying to compare a legendary 81 point game against an imaginary game is an insult.

Exposed? Learn to read you fraud.


So you went to school on sunday?

Ur slippin my man

You still don't get it :facepalm.

[ripthekik]

Yeah, exposed for posing fake stats. Twice. That's all lebronstans are good for.. making up imaginary stats.. it's all about stats stats stats.

Anyone who watches the games know what this guy is good for.. statpadding and disappearing at the end of games. Can't get it done without tremendous help.

[Illuminati]

Yeah, exposed for posing fake stats. Twice. That's all lebronstans are good for.. making up imaginary stats.. it's all about stats stats stats.

Anyone who watches the games know what this guy is good for.. statpadding and disappearing at the end of games. Can't get it done without tremendous help.

http://youtu.be/O-VzBeOrdAg

Damn that 'tremendous' help :bowdown:

http://youtu.be/zlHmHKzl7eU

that 'tremendous' help!!!! :bowdown:

http://youtu.be/R4pyUoVoGwk

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[TheMarkMadsen]

http://youtu.be/O-VzBeOrdAg - Great performance by Lebron

Damn that 'tremendous' help :bowdown:

http://youtu.be/zlHmHKzl7eU -Wade had 30/9/6 on 57%.. tremendous help is right

that 'tremendous' help!!!! :bowdown:

http://youtu.be/R4pyUoVoGwk - Wade had 23/10 on 52%, Battier had 18 on 75% and Chalmers had 14, tremendous help is right

:bowdown: :bowdown:


ok

[The Iron Fist]

ill go with jordan scoring 63 points as a rookie in the playoffs..THREAD OVER................
2 overtimes.

:no:

[blood yes]

ok
LeBron's 48 in cleveland tho

LeBron in cleveland was a different animal, just a beast

With the heat, he is nothing more than a decent all around player, sadly

[Illuminati]

ok

Only one that was 'tremendous' help was the Pacers game. Wade with the monster stat line. The other two was just help.

[Psileas]

i was about to say GOAT stat line :bowdown:

Still the GOAT statline, especially if the nbastats estimations about steals and blocked shots are anywhere near the truth.
BTW, according to nbastats, he also shot 24-39 FG's, but I've also found 24-29 somewhere else.

[D.J.]

2 overtimes.

:no:


And 2nd year, not rookie year.

[Droid101]

**** you. I'll put you on my ignore list first, bitch.

Well that was fast.

[fpliii]

Still the GOAT statline, especially if the nbastats estimations about steals and blocked shots are anywhere near the truth.
BTW, according to nbastats, he also shot 24-39 FG's, but I've also found 24-29 somewhere else.

I'd take the steals with a grain of salt. The Philadelphia Daily News mentioned that he "blocked about a dozen shots", but I'm not sure where Matt got the steals from for that game. In general, if a game has no annotation and just lists a number of blocked shots/steals it's reliable, if it says "estimate" or "estimated" it might could be legit (but I wouldn't feel safe relying on them). If the entry says "estimated by ___" with a contributor's name, I don't think it's safe to use it, so tread lightly (EDIT: unless there is a specific citation).

[SamuraiSWISH]

2 overtimes.

:no:
Playoffs?

Sophomore Season?

Back from Injury?

V.S. Top Five GOAT '86 Celtics team?

[Psileas]

I'd take the steals with a grain of salt. The Philadelphia Daily News mentioned that he "blocked about a dozen shots", but I'm not sure where Matt got the steals from for that game. In general, if a game has no annotation and just lists a number of blocked shots/steals it's reliable, if it says "estimate" or "estimated" it might could be legit (but I wouldn't feel safe relying on them). If the entry says "estimated by ___" with a contributor's name, I don't think it's safe to use it, so tread lightly (EDIT: unless there is a specific citation).

Me, too. I'm curious to find how they estimated blocked shots game by game and why they did so for 2 only seasons.
Maybe this "24 blocks" was incorrectly constructed by adding the "officially estimated" blocked shots and the "unofficially estimated" steals.
A dozen blocked shots would still give him a 50-point 4-D. Not bad...

[russwest0]

Mamba.

[The Iron Fist]

Playoffs?

Sophomore Season?

Back from Injury?

V.S. Top Five GOAT '86 Celtics team?


and still, 2 overtimes. Its a nice feat, but still


2 overtimes.

[oh the horror]

Both came in the regular season, against shit competition. Neither. How about David Robinson's 71 v.s. the '95 Clippers while we're at it, listing regular season games against terrible, meaningless opponents with no spotlight or pressure.



You act like they're playing against children. Do you know how hard some of these feats are in a pro league?

[no pun intended]

what triple double?

[Fawker]

81

[I<3NBA]

most impressive is that Kobe is not in jail.

[Mr. Jabbar]

kobes 81 is the perhaps the greatest scoring feat ever, why would you even compare it to one of those stad-padded boxscores...

[buddha]

If Michael Jordan played in todays nba he would have scored 80 points multiple times.

[rhowen4]

last week i was banging 32 decent lookin girls simultaneously at my friend's house, and after the girls were done i went in the other room and my friend started talking to me about basketball. he's a fan of lebron but he said kobe's 81 was more impressive than lebron's 52 point near triple double. not to say lebron's game wasn't impressive itself. i agreed with him.

[STATUTORY]

i honestly have no clue what Lebron's 52 triple double game is and what team it was against

this question is the litmus test, if you say Lebron, you are a stan. Flat out

[alec613]

If I recall, that triple double game in Madison Square was not a triple double at all. LeBron was 1 rebound short, (or was it an assist?),

[jrong]

LeBron had a 50/10/9 game. Wade has one too. This is not a serious debate question.

And Jordan scored 63 in the playoffs as a sophomore, not a rookie.

[K Xerxes]

Kobe's 81 for sure.

Though LeBron's 45-15-5 >>>> any Kobe or (other) LeBron games.

[branslowski]

Bringing up 81 again? Time for haters to act like any Perimeter player in NBA history can do it, and it doesn't mean nothing.:rolleyes:

[DMAVS41]

81...not close.

[#number6ix#]

Dumb thread... The man dropped 81 points... 81 fvcking POINTS!!!!

[SamuraiSWISH]

62 in 3 (with a lot of free throws) > 81 > LeBron's near triple double. I'd venture to say LeBron's 45-15-5, and 48 special game in the playoffs is better than all the ones being mentioned though, due to magnitude /competition /context

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

81 and 62 in 3 are way better is this thread a joke:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[red1]

The 52 triple double is one of brons best games and was an amazing performance. That said this is a no-brainer. Kobe carried the garbage lakers that shit was a one man team. Wasnt a triple double either they gave the last rebound to ben wallace

[Black and White]

What???? I can't believe a thread has been made to compare these two, 81 point game by far.

[pauk]

52 points + 11 assists (22-33 point accountability) = Accountable for around 73-85 points which is around 68% to 79% of his teams 107 points that night.

81 points + 2 assists (2-3 point accountability) = Accountable for around 83-84 points which is around 68% to 69% of his teams 122 points that night.

Lebron hit clutch shots in that game aswell, ending up with 107-102, had a few more rebounds aswell if that matters.

You decide.... 81 points has more historic value i think, but Lebron's accountability was actually the same or better (yes, assists does equal points on the boxscore aswell people).

[TheMarkMadsen]

52 points + 11 assists (22-33 point accountability) = Accountable for around 73-85 points which is around 68% to 79% of his teams 107 points that night.

81 points + 2 assists (2-3 point accountability) = Accountable for around 83-84 points which is around 68% to 69% of his teams 122 points that night.

Lebron hit clutch shots in that game aswell, ending up with 107-102, had a few more rebounds aswell if that matters.

You decide....


Thanks we did and we picked 81

[Black and White]

52 points + 11 assists (22-33 point accountability) = Accountable for around 73-85 points which is around 68% to 79% of his teams 107 points that night.

81 points + 2 assists (2-3 point accountability) = Accountable for around 83-84 points which is around 68% to 69% of his teams 122 points that night.

Lebron hit clutch shots in that game aswell, ending up with 107-102, had a few more rebounds aswell if that matters.

You decide.... 81 points has more historic value i think, but Lebron's accountability was actually the same or better (yes, assists does equal points on the boxscore aswell people).

I have never seen anyone use that in a debate :biggums:

Anyway, the 81 point game is far better, not even close.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Thanks we did and we picked 81

:roll:

Pauk:facepalm

[moe94]

I have never seen anyone use that in a debate :biggums:

Anyway, the 81 point game is far better, not even close.

It's used to prop up PGs and Magic stans love it and will use it to say he's a better offensive player than Jordan. :rolleyes:

[Black and White]

It's used to prop up PGs and Magic stans love it and will use it to say he's a better offensive player than Jordan. :rolleyes:

For real? Lol, it just sounds stupid, it's very subjective and makes things more complicated than they really are.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

52 points + 11 assists (22-33 point accountability) = Accountable for around 73-85 points which is around 68% to 79% of his teams 107 points that night.

81 points + 2 assists (2-3 point accountability) = Accountable for around 83-84 points which is around 68% to 69% of his teams 122 points that night.

Lebron hit clutch shots in that game aswell, ending up with 107-102, had a few more rebounds aswell if that matters.

You decide.... 81 points has more historic value i think, but Lebron's accountability was actually the same or better (yes, assists does equal points on the boxscore aswell people).

How do 2 assists work out to 2-3 points for Kobe?

[Black and White]

How do 2 assists work out to 2-3 points for Kobe?

Dat LeBron stan math :roll:

[red1]

Pauk man. You arent convincing anyone, even gloria james and DaRealLambo are less biased than you

[red1]

I like the fact that you keep it civil and try to explain your reasoning but even still lets not act like this isnt an obvious answer

[Bandito]

How do 2 assists work out to 2-3 points for Kobe?
Dat Lebrontard math!:lol

[SilkkTheShocker]

LeBron is a better player than Kobe ever was.

[Bandito]

LeBron is a better player than Kobe ever was.
You're back. I don't know if to:facepalm or :cheers:

[Black and White]

LeBron is a better player than Kobe ever was.

Answer the question tho, which is more impressive, LeBron's game or Kobe's 81

[CavaliersFTW]

Thanks we did and we picked 81
I agree, 81 points is the 2nd most amount of points in NBA history and the most amount of points in recent NBA history... I don't even think Lebron's '50 point triple double' or w/e it was is historically significant, Wilt and Oscar probably had inumerable 50 point triple doubles, and several more NBA players throughout NBA history probably had quite a few as well. Where as Kobe's 81? Only 1 player in history ever had more points. Kobe's 81 points is a far more rare and difficult feat to perform.

[moe94]

I don't even think Lebron's '50 point triple double' or w/e it was is historically significant

Remember all those 50 point triple doubles that happen every season in the modern era? Me neither.

[NumberSix]

The one who wasn't purposely gunning for it.

[Fudge]

OP :roll: :roll: first few pages are great.

[Droid101]

Remember all those 50 point triple doubles that happen every season in the modern era? Me neither.
Yeah, you're right, and LeBron didn't have one anyway, so what's the deal with this garbage thread?

[MavsSuperFan]

81

[Magic 32]

LeBron is a better player than Kobe ever was.

SilkkTheShocker has one of the lowest reputations on this board

[moe94]

SilkkTheShocker has one of the lowest reputations on this board

Magic 32 has a very bad reputation

[Illuminati]

Magic 32 has a very bad reputation

moe94 has not been impressing people. :mad:

[longtime lurker]

Considering that Lebron didn't even get a triple double the answer is easily Kobe.

[moe94]

moe94 has not been impressing people. :mad:

He literally negged me with his alt, as if it's not transparent. :oldlol:

Convenient how he's no longer online while simultaneously sending me a neg saying it's him.