5mb harddrive 50+ years ago

[bladefd]

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/4dfb8533ccd1d5cb200d0000-620-692/1956%20IBM%20hard%20drive.jpg

http://www.businessinsider.com/picture-of-ibm-hard-drive-on-airplane-2014-1

http://www.seagate.com/files/www-content/product-content/barracuda-fam/desktop-hdd/_cross-product/_shared/images/desktop-hdd-pen-reflection-400x400.jpg


Today, you can buy a 5TB 600gram hard-drive for $150 versus that 5MB 2,000 pound hard-drive for $3000 a day on rent. Hard to believe how much technology changes in 50 years. :roll: :roll:

[flipogb]

thats the size of one small mp3, lol

[Budadiiii]

Mind boggling

[Jameerthefear]

man. think about if technology progresses that fast in 20 years? shit will be crazy.

[fiddy]

The problem with current technology is that there is not much more room for improvement. Nice find OP

[chosen_one6]

The problem with current technology is that there is not much more room for improvement. Nice find OP

I beg to differ. Look at the advancements in computer technology in just the last 15 years. It's only going to get better as we find new ways to make things more efficient or more creative.

[outbreak]

Is that picture real? I know they were huge (I've seen some early computers in an exhibition here) but a lot of images online of them were photoshops.

But yeah it's crazy how fast technology has taken off, even thinks like television and refrigeration weren't invented that long ago. I don't agree with people saying we've hit a peak and where can they go from here though, people have said that many times through out history in regards to technology and something new always comes around.

My brother in law bought my niece around to my place this weekend and she was showing me videos from when they went to the zoo on his galaxy, she is one and a half years old and knows how to swipe through, double tap to make it play, pin to zoom in and out for images, it's crazy. He told me that earlier in the week he got a call from my sister and it was his daughter on the phone because she has managed to unlock my sisters phone and knew how to click on the photo of him attached to the contact and called him.

[brantonli]

The problem with current technology is that there is not much more room for improvement. Nice find OP

I'm not expert on current technology, but I'd imagine that's the attitude that most people had over 50 years ago too, nobody could imagine computers would take over our lives completely.

[flipogb]

The problem with current technology is that there is not much more room for improvement. Nice find OP

CES is going on right now, lots of new cool gadgets being announced as we speak. been reading engadget.com all day

[Jameerthefear]

The problem with current technology is that there is not much more room for improvement. Nice find OP
really? you think that? come on. think about all the medical stuff that need to be solved, the new things we could do with gaming, and stuff like that. we have no where to go but up

[fiddy]

http://bigthink.com/videos/tweaking-moores-law-computers-of-the-post-silicon-era-2-2

Theres need to be a breakthrough. As far as i know current CPU architecture can go as low as 0.7nm and thats it.

[ace23]

Lol @ fiddy. There's always room for improvement.

[gts]

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/4dfb8533ccd1d5cb200d0000-620-692/1956%20IBM%20hard%20drive.jpg



to be honest there really wasn't much worth saving 50 years ago.... :lol

[fiddy]

Lol @ fiddy. There's always room for improvement.
The point is that sillicon computing will need to be replaced with something completely new.

[Draz]

It's beautiful. I love my generation, my era, my life. This makes me excited, to even be apart of such improvement, evolution, just marvelous. We all should be thankful. At this rate the way technology is progressing we might have mine boggling, unbelievable inventions.

I remember 2 years ago the new iPhone was going to drop. I believe probably the 4 or the 4s. Don't recall. I was in the barbershop, and you know, barbershop talk. One of the barbers and customer was discussing the iPhone will have the ability to have hologram.

Now, holograms is possibly being invented as we talk.

[#number6ix#]

Just imagine how things will be 50 years from now

[Budadiiii]

Just imagine how things will be 50 years from now
I will be immortal.

I will survive. I don't see anyway I don't live forever.

My spirit is too strong.

[RedBlackAttack]

to be honest there really wasn't much worth saving 50 years ago.... :lol
porn.

[outbreak]

porn.

In all seriousness it's the porn industry that has dictated which technologies have succeeded in the past.

[Draz]

Hologram iPads in the future. I see that shit coming. iPad 8 with holographic feature and a real life Siri.

[highwhey]

The opposite is true actually. Computer technology growth is slowing down though.
i forgot the fellas name but he claimed computing power would double every year or 2, something like that. while computer have followed that trajectory for the most part, i think companies like intel are squeezing every little bit of power from current technology, intel released the 22nm ivy bridge in 2012, yet in 2913 haswell, also a 22nm cpu was released and it was marginally better. FAR from double the performance. so yeah, technology growth has slowed down massively, and that poster has a point, silicon has limitations as far as size goes. the only thing that they double with each cpu release is transistor count, which never translates into double the performance or near that. most benchmarks are cherrypicked anyhow, so that 30% haswell performance increase over sandy bridge is utter bs 99% of the time

[gigantes]

Just imagine how things will be 50 years from now
humans long-since extinct, and the only thriving ecosystems based around sulfurous hydrothermal vents?

thanks a lot, asshole.

[KevinNYC]

PBS did a show on how in the late 50's Silicon Valley was born when 8 guys left their company to strike on on their own and form Fairchild Semiconductor, one of whom who go on to found Intel. This was really unheard of back then.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/silicon/player/

Pretty interesting. They made the point, that when computer were vacumn tube based, they used to have a guy walking around inside the computer replacing the old tubes.

One thing I didn't know was that Standford University had very early on, put aside great parcels of land to for companies to build on. Without this the cost of starting a new computer might have been too high.

Check out this map of all the companies connected to these 8 guys.
http://s1.wp.com/wp-content/themes/vip/pandodaily2/post-assets/studio20/fairchild.html

Use the slider on the bottom to change the map.

[rufuspaul]

In all seriousness it's the porn industry that has dictated which technologies have succeeded in the past.


3-D holographic porn would be scary. You'd have to duck during the money shot.

[Bandito]

Hologram iPads in the future. I see that shit coming. iPad 8 with holographic feature and a real life Siri.
I could see a drop in birth rate if that happens...

[B-hoop]

i forgot the fellas name but he claimed computing power would double every year or 2, something like that. while computer have followed that trajectory for the most part, i think companies like intel are squeezing every little bit of power from current technology, intel released the 22nm ivy bridge in 2012, yet in 2913 haswell, also a 22nm cpu was released and it was marginally better. FAR from double the performance. so yeah, technology growth has slowed down massively, and that poster has a point, silicon has limitations as far as size goes. the only thing that they double with each cpu release is transistor count, which never translates into double the performance or near that. most benchmarks are cherrypicked anyhow, so that 30% haswell performance increase over sandy bridge is utter bs 99% of the time

Moore's Law states that proccessing capacity doubles every 2 years, it has been true for the last 30 something years. Its true that silicon-based chips are reaching the maximum level of performance, but there are already other different technologies being developed to replace them like carbon nanotubes which is being developed by IBM.

Computers have exponentially raised the amount of new technology discovered since more and more complex models can be built. And btw transistor count does double performance, problem is most software programming doesnt correctly use the quad-processors chips around.

[tmacattack33]

The problem with current technology is that there is not much more room for improvement. Nice find OP

Nah, just look at futuristic movies for inspiration.

A lot of that sh*t would be awesome and can actually happen.

[highwhey]

Moore's Law states that proccessing capacity doubles every 2 years, it has been true for the last 30 something years. Its true that silicon-based chips are reaching the maximum level of performance, but there are already other different technologies being developed to replace them like carbon nanotubes which is being developed by IBM.

Computers have exponentially raised the amount of new technology discovered since more and more complex models can be built. And btw transistor count does double performance, problem is most software programming doesnt correctly use the quad-processors chips around.
i do remember reading about the carbon nanotubes years ago, pretty cool to know they are being tested on since we're closely approaching the limitation of silicon.

i realize with personal computers bottlenecks exist with other components as well but why isnt progamming being improved then? most people will find a greater increase in performance by upgrading to an ssd hard drive then a cpu upgrade.

[B-hoop]

i do remember reading about the carbon nanotubes years ago, pretty cool to know they are being tested on since we're closely approaching the limitation of silicon.

i realize with personal computers bottlenecks exist with other components as well but why isnt progamming being improved then? most people will find a greater increase in performance by upgrading to an ssd hard drive then a cpu upgrade.

Probably a question of education and knowledge not keeping up with physical evolution in proccessing capability. I really believe that most programmers don't even know how to use the most advanced technology available so they just do what they have been trained all life to do, which can be really time and energy consuming compared to what they could be doing.

[Dresta]

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/4dfb8533ccd1d5cb200d0000-620-692/1956%20IBM%20hard%20drive.jpg

http://www.businessinsider.com/picture-of-ibm-hard-drive-on-airplane-2014-1

http://www.seagate.com/files/www-content/product-content/barracuda-fam/desktop-hdd/_cross-product/_shared/images/desktop-hdd-pen-reflection-400x400.jpg


Today, you can buy a 5TB 600gram hard-drive for $150 versus that 5MB 2,000 pound hard-drive for $3000 a day on rent. Hard to believe how much technology changes in 50 years. :roll: :roll:Alas, the planes are still pretty much the same :lol . This cheap storage space just means its far easier for the state to spy on everybody, so its about time they started making some faster ****ing planes.

[B-hoop]

We are actually getting slower! Where are my ****ing Concordes? :mad:

[KevinNYC]

We are actually getting slower! Where are my ****ing Concordes? :mad:

The last couple of years of Concorde flights were half empty. There was a crash in Paris in 2000 and then 9/11 a year later led to worldwide air travel slump.

Those customers never came back.

[B-hoop]

Yea i know, was jk. The crash in Paris was the last straw, even before 9/11 they were already saying they wouldnt use them anymore.

[bladefd]

The last couple of years of Concorde flights were half empty. There was a crash in Paris in 2000 and then 9/11 a year later led to worldwide air travel slump.

Those customers never came back.

Concorde was also very expensive, economically inefficient, used insane amounts of fuel, loud enough that it could shatter windows if flown low. Some of the same reasons why the USAF took the SR71 Blackbird out of commission before the Concorde was.

It's also pretty ironic that consumer technology is almost always built for militaristic reasons first before it shifts to the public. Computers were exclusively created for the military. Nobody could dream that such a technology was possible.


Check out the computer that took us to the moon - 2K of memory running at 1MHz:

Released in 1979, just a decade after Apollo 11's trip to the Moon, the 8086's cousin, the 8088, formed the basis for the IBM PC we all know and love. When the IBM PC "XT" was released in 1981, the lowest end configuration had 8 times more memory than Apollo's Guidance Computer -- 16k, vs the Apollo's 2k.

The Apollo's Guidance Computer was a snail-like 1.024 MHz in comparison, and it's external signaling was half that -- actually measured in Hz (1/1000th of 1 MHz, much as 1 MHz is 1/1000 of 1 GHz).

All of that took off from Earth, took us to the moon, landed, and brought us back to Earth all intact :roll:

[cuad]

Does Moore's Law even apply to hard drives? I ask because, as far as I know, they're made of magnets and not transistors.

[cuad]

All of that took off from Earth, took us to the moon, landed, and brought us back to Earth all intact :roll:

Yes, and it also shielded them from solar flares, cosmic rays, and the inescapable radiation belts around the Earth.

[B-hoop]

No, it applies only to the number of transistors in CPUs

[magic chiongson]

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/4dfb8533ccd1d5cb200d0000-620-692/1956%20IBM%20hard%20drive.jpg

http://www.businessinsider.com/picture-of-ibm-hard-drive-on-airplane-2014-1

http://www.seagate.com/files/www-content/product-content/barracuda-fam/desktop-hdd/_cross-product/_shared/images/desktop-hdd-pen-reflection-400x400.jpg


Today, you can buy a 5TB 600gram hard-drive for $150 versus that 5MB 2,000 pound hard-drive for $3000 a day on rent. Hard to believe how much technology changes in 50 years. :roll: :roll:
where can i buy 5tb for $150? i need one

[cuad]

Then how do I explain hard drives getting so small and so dense?

Ah, I see. Google is telling me that there's something called Kryder's Law which is like Moore's Law for hard drives.

[B-hoop]

Does it allow for solid state hard-drives? That shit is just incredible, 100x faster than the normal magnetic hd

[magic chiongson]

Does it allow for solid state hard-drives? That shit is just incredible, 100x faster than the normal magnetic hd

i have one, its more like 3-5 times faster than normal hdd

[bladefd]

where can i buy 5tb for $150? i need one

Sorry, I meant 4tb not 5tb.. Seagate is releasing a 5tb hdd next month though

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B99JU4S/?tag=extension-kb-20
https://www.google.com/shopping/product/17052772072754840806?client=firefox-a&hs=p9k&rls=org.*******:en-US:official&q=4tb%20hard%20drive&tbas=0&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.58187178,d.eW0,pv.xjs.s.en_US.EeLgqkzqnSg.O&biw=1680&bih=867&tch=1&ech=1&psi=VsHMUpbwKtPRkQfUuICwCg.1389150560196.15&ei=l8HMUrPzEcidkAf9nID4Aw&ved=0CNMEEKYrMAM&prds=scoring:tp

[Fork]

Can't even hold a Kendrick Perkins highlight reel in there.

[cuad]

Can't even hold a Kendrick Perkins highlight reel in there.
Stop clownin'. Yes u can. You can also throw in Anthony Bennett's career highlights and bonus Len Bias highlights.

[Dresta]

Concorde was also very expensive, economically inefficient, used insane amounts of fuel, loud enough that it could shatter windows if flown low. Some of the same reasons why the USAF took the SR71 Blackbird out of commission before the Concorde was.

It's also pretty ironic that consumer technology is almost always built for militaristic reasons first before it shifts to the public. Computers were exclusively created for the military. Nobody could dream that such a technology was possible.


They were only first class seats weren't they. Has anyone flown in one? Seems like a cool thing to have done.

[AI Thornton]

The problem with current technology is that there is not much more room for improvement. Nice find OP

I'll remember this 50 years from now.... when we have chips implanted into our minds that make us recall ever small detail of our lives perfectly.

[brantonli]

Does it allow for solid state hard-drives? That shit is just incredible, 100x faster than the normal magnetic hd

My computer is a SSD 256 GB hard drive, and honestly I can't tell how much faster it is than an ordinary laptop because I've gotten so used to it. the only thing I really notice rebooting the computer only takes about 15 seconds or something.

[Blue&Orange]

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/03/22/business/QUANTUM/QUANTUM-articleLarge-v2.jpg

Quantum computers today. 20 years from now they will be on my phone.

[Frozen1]

Today people talk, "oh my god, we have so much technology right now, look at my beautiful ipod and ipad, very colorful and bright".

But the guys who were really badass were the guys from this time, who created technology from nothing, there was no hard drive, no transistor, no IC, no internet, and they created the base of the things we are using today from nothing.

Just think about how was programming back then, they had to write things in assembly by hand, and had to triple check everything looking for an error.

The computer used in the apollo program used a memory recorded in ropes, just think about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_rope_memory

And today we use an API and barely have to think to make a computer program.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Today people talk, "oh my god, we have so much technology right now, look at my beautiful ipod and ipad, very colorful and bright".

But the guys who were really badass were the guys from this time, who created technology from nothing, there was no hard drive, no transistor, no IC, no internet, and they created the base of the things we are using today from nothing.

Just think about how was programming back then, they had to write things in assembly by hand, and had to triple check everything looking for an error.

The computer used in the apollo program used a memory recorded in ropes, just think about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_rope_memory

And today we use an API and barely have to think to make a computer program.

I don't get the point. Researchers have always been under-appreciated and still are bad-ass.

[Frozen1]

I don't get the point. Researchers have always been under-appreciated and still are bad-ass.

I

[LilKateMoss]

Today people talk, "oh my god, we have so much technology right now, look at my beautiful ipod and ipad, very colorful and bright".

But the guys who were really badass were the guys from this time, who created technology from nothing, there was no hard drive, no transistor, no IC, no internet, and they created the base of the things we are using today from nothing.

Just think about how was programming back then, they had to write things in assembly by hand, and had to triple check everything looking for an error.

The computer used in the apollo program used a memory recorded in ropes, just think about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_rope_memory

And today we use an API and barely have to think to make a computer program.
You do realize those ropes had a ferrite core, don't you? You make it sound like they were using freaking hemp cord or something.