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Hamtaro CP3KDKG
01-07-2014, 01:42 AM
Phil owes alot to the triangle and Tex Winter. He deserves credit for managing egos but not the extent hes been given lets be real Xs and Os hes not even better than Pat Riley and Riley was considered the better coach in the 90s.

moe94
01-07-2014, 01:43 AM
Riley was considered the better coach in the 90s.

What?

Fudge
01-07-2014, 01:44 AM
Hamtaro

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
01-07-2014, 01:46 AM
What?
You werent even watching basketball back then yungin hop off for da:biggums: :biggums:

moe94
01-07-2014, 01:48 AM
You werent even watching basketball back then yungin hop off for da:biggums: :biggums:

How was he considered better? We're talking purely the 90s here. How was he better? Who thought he was better? In what universe is he better?

sejoon101
01-07-2014, 01:53 AM
Pop > Riley > Phil

edit - and huge LOL to the phaggit that ninja deleted his post faster than Rose's first step, some stupid ass comment about more rings = better coach. Dumb ass mofo

sportjames23
01-07-2014, 02:52 AM
Hamtaro


Is this like the new Bladers?

sportjames23
01-07-2014, 02:53 AM
Phil owes alot to the triangle and Tex Winter. He deserves credit for managing egos but not the extent hes been given lets be real Xs and Os hes not even better than Pat Riley and Riley was considered the better coach in the 90s.

No.

Phil and Pat > Pop.

Red Auerbach > Pop, too.

Pursuer
01-07-2014, 03:00 AM
I have no idea, in what way, would Pat Riley be better than Phil Jackson. Hairstyle? Clothing?

brandonislegend
01-07-2014, 03:00 AM
It's arguable...

Harison
01-07-2014, 03:54 AM
Red is the best ever. Phil might have the most rings, but I would take several coaches over him, Pop and Larry Brown are two of them, not Riley though.

Brook(lyn)Lopez
01-07-2014, 03:56 AM
Pop lost his chance at the top spot after that complete debacle in game 6 of the Finals last year.
The Greatest of all Time in anything doesn't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory like that.

Breezy
01-07-2014, 06:47 AM
I think he probably is the best. But he has the advantage of knowing he won't get fired, So the players have to respect him or be shipped out themselves. I think it helps him build and command better teams. Even in light of that, Yes pop is the best.

INDI
01-07-2014, 08:24 AM
I agree 100%. Pop is the GOAT coach, he consistently takes decent players and turns them into weapons. The spurs is the only franchise I know that I can say it's more of the system that makes them great rather than the players. You can take off duncan Parker and ginobli and replace them with decent players and I bet they can still make the playoffs as a 5 or 6 seed.

Artillery
01-07-2014, 08:29 AM
Pop lost his chance at the top spot after that complete debacle in game 6 of the Finals last year.
The Greatest of all Time in anything doesn't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory like that.

Exacty why Pop is not the GOAT coach. All the great coaches(PJ/Riley) play to win. Pop, more often than not, plays not to lose. Overthinks things too much.

Harison
01-07-2014, 08:38 AM
I think this thread is not complete without:

http://turnernbaallball.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/pop-dancing-parade.gif

:lol :applause:

Nick Young
01-07-2014, 09:24 AM
Phil Jackson.

Popovic lost the finals last year by choking and overcoaching.

I<3NBA
01-07-2014, 09:38 AM
Auerbach is the best coach ever. followed by Phil, then Pop, then Riley, then Spoelstra.

yah. just decided to insert that random name :yaohappy:

Lebron23
01-07-2014, 09:44 AM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2008/0605/sn_auerbach_300.jpg

Thechosen1
01-07-2014, 11:55 AM
I agree.....the spurs are the only team in the league that when they run their offense you can tell the coach is 90 percent of how their plays are designed and executed...the ball never sticks its like it floats around the court, and its amazing how a coach can implement such fluid ball movement and motion in an offense that looks so smooth

rmt
01-07-2014, 02:14 PM
I agree.....the spurs are the only team in the league that when they run their offense you can tell the coach is 90 percent of how their plays are designed and executed...the ball never sticks its like it floats around the court, and its amazing how a coach can implement such fluid ball movement and motion in an offense that looks so smooth

I agree that the motion offense is great, but part of that is that they seek out players with passing skills and high basketball IQ. Manu, Diaw, Duncan, Splitter, Bellineli are all excellent passers.

Pop's greatest asset is his people skills. He makes each player feel important within the team by not playing favorites. If they work hard, do what they're supposed to do, they'll get their shot/time on the court. When everyone follows the plan and gives maximum effort, it makes for excellent regular season records. Unfortunately, when the playoffs come round, every team gives maximum effort. Then talent wins out. Fortunately, for the Spurs, they are excellent scouts (especially abroad) and fill the roster with cheap (for their talent) foreign players. When they get breaks like Westbrooke going down and Duncan having a retro year, they make it to the Finals.

As far as GOAT, Phil Jackson would never have lost a championship that was 28 seconds away. He would go with who brought him to the Finals. Why would Pop not play the all-time greatest defensive playoff rebounder in NBA history? Put your best defensive players on the floor, have them stand ON the 3 point line within reach of whoever they're defending and make them hit a 3 from down town (no fouling of course).

Dizzle-2k7
01-07-2014, 02:20 PM
i used to think he was until last year.

phil would never takeout his legendary bigman in the closing seconds of a game. pop did that against miami and it cost us a big rebound and the series. smh.

pop is top 5 tho. give timmy some credit. he's getting atleast 4 rings anywhere he goes.

LeGOAT
01-07-2014, 02:24 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/06/19/article-2344280-1A650B90000005DC-998_634x630.jpg

davehos
01-07-2014, 02:25 PM
Phil owes alot to the triangle and Tex Winter. He deserves credit for managing egos but not the extent hes been given lets be real Xs and Os hes not even better than Pat Riley and Riley was considered the better coach in the 90s.

I'd say pop has done the most with least. He was able to coach Stephen Jackson .. go figure? Also, he makes average players ... good. He puts them in the right spot. Patty Mills has gone beast mode in more games than one this year with limited minutes.

KrizMiz
01-07-2014, 02:45 PM
as much as i hate the spurs, i have to say YES ! he is the best!

leMVP
01-07-2014, 03:06 PM
Coach Spo is coming for that title.

TMT
01-07-2014, 03:08 PM
i used to think he was until last year.

phil would never takeout his legendary bigman in the closing seconds of a game. pop did that against miami and it cost us a big rebound and the series. smh.

pop is top 5 tho. give timmy some credit. he's getting atleast 4 rings anywhere he goes.

Not saying I agree with the decision Pop made, but in his defense whenever they had been in the same situation during the season he made the same call and it worked much more often than not. Add to that that you are playing a below average rebounding team like Miami and the decision seems good in theory. I give him credit for not changing up the game plan just because it was Game 6 of the Finals, and honestly that is what makes him such a great coach. Ray Allen hit an incredible shot and that's all she wrote.

There are many other factors that played into the loss, and Pop's decision certainly wasn't the reason for it.

Greatest coach ever in my book. He's done the most with the least, and done it in incredibly successful fashion.

97 bulls
01-07-2014, 03:46 PM
Phil Jackson is the greatest coach ever. The man has more championship rings than he has fingers for goodness sake. And before anyone attempts to give sole credit to his rosters and great players, consider where all those players were before Jacksons arrival. Jordan before Jackson? Shaq? Kobe? And all those guys had damn good coaches before him. Jordan had Doug Collins, Kobe had Rudy Tomjonovich, Shaq had Del Harris.

He got those guys to believe in his system. Some extrnemely arrogant players too. Hell three of the biggest egos in the world. And basically four different rosters and two different teams. Hell he won two championships as coach of the Albany Patroons.

And hes proven he can win in spite of any situation. Remember 1994? Jackson deserved the coach of the year award for that season.

No one but Red Auerbach has a legit case.