TRADE: Cavs trade Andrew Bynum, picks to Bulls for Luol Deng

[L3B120N J4M35]

The Cleveland Cavaliers have acquired All-Star forward Luol Deng from the Chicago Bulls in exchange for center Andrew Bynum, three future draft picks and the right to swap 2015 first round picks with the Cavs (1-14 protected), Cavaliers General Manager Chris Grant announced tonight from Cleveland Clinic Courts.

Read more at http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=15038

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

The Cleveland Cavaliers have acquired All-Star forward Luol Deng from the Chicago Bulls in exchange for center Andrew Bynum, three future draft picks and the right to swap 2015 first round picks with the Cavs (1-14 protected), Cavaliers General Manager Chris Grant announced tonight from Cleveland Clinic Courts.

Read more at http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=15038

[ripthekik]

:wtf:

[alec613]

Interesting.

[b1imtf]

:wtf:
This

[Levity]

wow.

good for the cavs. get a player who can help them get into the playoffs and dont have to take any long term contracts back. 100% chance bynum is waived?

[D-Rose]

Holy skeets man.

Bulls going tank mode. Cavs all in.

[CelticBaller]

Perfect for the cavs, wtf for the bulls :lol

[moe94]

:wtf:

Deal with it. :pimp: :banana:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

This doesnt make sense for either team WTF
Thibs is gonna kill Bynum:roll: :roll: :roll:

The baby Bulls are done

[Fudge]

Da fuq?

[Scal]

I imagined Bynum will be cut and is purely a tax saving option for the Bulls if this is true. Deng on the Cavs? I'm not sure, I still think they have a lot of internal strife that they need to set straight. I guess the question is where does Deng end up next year?

[Levity]

This doesnt make sense for either team WTF
Thibs is gonna kill Bynum:roll: :roll: :roll:

The baby Bulls are done

id say its good for the cavs. didnt have to give up waiters or a pick. and still got a legit player back to help them this season and possibly re-sign him this summer.

[VIntageNOvel]

it makes sense for both,
deng can help cavs
and bynum can accompany rose to hospital

[IncarceratedBob]

Bynum will not suit up for the Bulls according to Paul Dentrine. He's getting straight up waived ASAP.

[boozehound]

huh, dont see it on espn. OP? Anyhoo, lame for the bulls to flip deng for saving some cash. Hopefully they got something else back with it.

[nevetslc88]

I imagined Bynum will be cut and is purely a tax saving option for the Bulls if this is true. Deng on the Cavs? I'm not sure, I still think they have a lot of internal strife that they need to set straight. I guess the question is where does Deng end up next year?

Lakers :oldlol:

[NattyPButter]

so make 8th seed and get booted out in the first round for what? Deng isn't going to resign, and if Lebron doesn't come back to the Cavs the team will still be with out a good SF which they could had gotten in the 14 draft. Idiots.

[Levity]

so jimmy bulter will finally have his coming out party this season? so far this year, hes been pretty underwhelming

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Bulls going to land Parker. Just watch.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

wow.

good for the cavs. get a player who can help them get into the playoffs and dont have to take any long term contracts back. 100% chance bynum is waived?


& deng will dump them in Summer...they traded a lot for deng

[chazzy]

Bulls get a future first as well

[Levity]

& deng will dump them in Summer...they traded a lot for deng

what is a lot? i thought its only bynum

[CelticBaller]

so make 8th seed and get booted out in the first round for what? Deng isn't going to resign, and if Lebron doesn't come back to the Cavs the team will still be with out a good SF which they could had gotten in the 14 draft. Idiots.
Waiters+Bynum for Jeff Green and Crawford


Just super sayan :confusedshrug:

[D-Rose]

Holy shit Cavs sent 2 2nd rounders and Sacramento's 1st...also give up right to swap 2015 1st but lottery protected.

Rose must be pissed about this rebuild phase.

[Levity]

Bulls get a future first as well

well fvck that. pau could have helped them more!!!

[IncarceratedBob]

Cavs are a darkhorse to make some noise in the playoffs. They have an elite player and now solid role players.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

so jimmy bulter will finally have his coming out party this season? so far this year, hes been pretty underwhelming

if he can stay healthy

[VIntageNOvel]

Holy shit Cavs sent 2 2nd rounders and Sacramento's 1st...also give up right to swap 2015 1st but lottery protected.

Rose must be pissed about this rebuild phase.

dafuq lakers only ask one 1st rounder for gasol :facepalm
cavs gonna cavs i guess

[ripthekik]

Anyone or Cav fan want to paint a picture on how the Cavs starting 5 look now? and how will Deng do on that team? Are they missing a star SF?

[longtime lurker]

it makes sense for both,
deng can help cavs
and bynum can accompany rose to hospital

:roll: :roll:

[Inferno]

Anyone or Cav fan want to paint a picture on how the Cavs starting 5 look now? and how will Deng do on that team? Are they missing a star SF?

Kyrie/Jack
Miles/Waiters
Deng/Bennett?
Thompson/Bennett
Varejao/Zeller

:confusedshrug:

[BlackVVaves]

The Bulls got a 1st and 2 2nd rounders???

Holy shit the Cavs trolled Mitch :oldlol:

I guess that aim high (for Waiters) approach blew up in their face :eek:

[moe94]

it makes sense for both,
deng can help cavs
and bynum can accompany rose to hospital

10/10

[MP.Trey]

This is truly beautiful if true. I only heard one pick was in the deal but we'll have to see how the details pan out before full judgement is made.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

look at what the cavs gave for deng:

sacramento 1st
2015 2st: right to swap it

2014 2 2nd rounders

+ Bynum

for a 3 month rental of deny

wow...too much

[Inferno]

Bulls get 2 second rounders, Sacramento's pick, and right to swap w/Cavs in 2015, but lottery protected

[ripthekik]

At first I felt bad that you came out with the thread at the same time, but then I saw your username and location, and now I have to give this thread one star and neg you.

[Remix]

So the bulls get the kings pick for this next offseason?

[andremiller07]

Yeah Cavs gave up a bit much tbh

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Lebanon James?

[Inferno]

So the bulls get the kings pick for this next offseason?

Yup, but it's top 12 protected

[imnew09]

I feel bad for Noah tho. Come to the Lakers man :cheers:

[andremiller07]

So the bulls get the kings pick for this next offseason?
Top 10/12 protected

[D-Rose]

look at what the cavs gave for deng:

sacramento 1st
2015 2st: right to swap it

2014 2 2nd rounders

+ Bynum

for a 3 month rental of deny

wow...too much
I have a sneaking suspicion that they will really try their hardest to re-sign him. LBJ is a pipe dream anyway.

[boozehound]

all I see in official shit is the kings pick (which is top 10 protected). Damn, they went from R jeff for bynum to deng? We shall see long term, but it will be sad to see deng not a bull IMO

[boozehound]

So the bulls get the kings pick for this next offseason?
10 ten protected for 2 years

[FreezingTsmoove]

At first I was like bagelred Gorgui Deng thread :facepalm then i was all like :eek: :eek: :eek:

[DuMa]

Bynum and Rose. knee buddies for life

[Remix]

Anyone know what the Charlotte pick the bulls own looks like for this year?

[D-Rose]

Think about it though...Bulls probably getting a nice pick in this draft with a tank...only thing that stands in their way is their coach. :oldlol:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Finally we get rid of Deng. 2x years too late. Now amnesty Boozer and we're good. I can't stand either of these two players.

[Brujesino]

Good deal for the Bulls i guess.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

The Bulls got a 1st and 2 2nd rounders???

Holy shit the Cavs trolled Mitch :oldlol:

I guess that aim high (for Waiters) approach blew up in their face :eek:


and the bulls get the right to swap their 2015 1st pick

lol too much for 3 month rental

[DuMa]

oh no Thibs' work horse boy is gone. who are they gonna get to play 46 mins a game now

[Levity]

oh no Thibs' work horse boy is gone. who are they gonna get to play 46 mins a game now

probably the guy who played near 48 mins a game last year when deng was out.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Finally we get rid of Deng. 2x years too late.


u sure did hose the cavs though...great trade for bulls

the best pick here might be right to swap the 2015 1st rounder

with Rose back they will be in playoffs while Cavs with deng leaving in the lottery

lol

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

probably the guy who played near 48 mins a game last year when deng was out.

exactly this and deng is going to be injured as always

[longtime lurker]

and the bulls get the right to swap their 2015 1st pick

lol too much for 3 month rental

Lakers would have given them Gasol for a lot less.

[BlackVVaves]

Any perspective from Cavs fans? 3 picks and a swap for a possible rental :eek:

[Pushxx]

At first I was like bagelred Gorgui Deng thread :facepalm then i was all like :eek: :eek: :eek:

LOL :cheers: I was like "which other Deng was it?"

[D-Rose]

Lakers would have given them Gasol for a lot less.
Yeah, but Deng is a hell of a lot more useful on the court.

[Dr. Ice]

Wow. This is why the cavs are the cavs.

[coin24]

Yeah, but Deng is a hell of a lot more useful on the court.

Than Gasol?? Dont think so:oldlol:

[Levity]

Yeah, but Deng is a hell of a lot more useful on the court.

thats arguable. gasol would add something that CLE lacks. and thats a go to scorer in the low post. would allow even more spacing for kyrie and waiters. still, i like the idea of deng on the cavs. he'll vastly outperform gee and clark

[fiddy]

not bad at all

[D-Rose]

Than Gasol?? Dont think so:oldlol:
I don't see why not at this point in Pau's career. Deng plays tons more defense and has made the ASG two years running.

Cavs also had much more of a gaping hole at SF than at F/C.

[AirTupac]

Cavs stay being cavs :oldlol:

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Yeah, but Deng is a hell of a lot more useful on the court.

what? say again please?

Gasol's pairing with Irving & Waiters is hell lot better on the court then with a no 3point shot Deng

no spacing will be there...deng is good but dont compare with Pau's value on the court to dengs with the personel the Cavs have

[coin24]

So are Cavs fans happy with this?? :confusedshrug:

I wouldnt be. Is the goal make the 8, get swept, lose Deng and stay mediocre?

[D-Rose]

what? say again please?

Gasol's pairing with Irving & Waiters is hell lot better on the court then with a no 3point shot Deng

no spacing will be there...deng is good but dont compare with Pau's value on the court to dengs with the personel the Cavs have
:facepalm

[kamil]

As a Bulls fan..... NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

That guy's just going to troll the entire Chicago Bulls organization.

[MJ(Mean John)]

Rt: "@Derrickrose: itz all Good. Me nd Da Homie Bynum finna tear the league up"
You mean, Tear ligaments, Derrick, you guys will tear those, in your knees

[Levity]

:facepalm

interesting argument

[BlackVVaves]

thats arguable. gasol would add something that CLE lacks. and thats a go to scorer in the low post. would allow even more spacing for kyrie and waiters. still, i like the idea of deng on the cavs. he'll vastly outperform gee and clark

The one thing Gasol doesn't do, is space the floor. :wtf: ?

[Bano114]

As a Bulls fan..... NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

That guy's just going to troll the entire Chicago Bulls organization.

Hes most likely getting waived. This is a cap saving move. And they grabbed a draft pick apparently.

[longtime lurker]

Yeah, but Deng is a hell of a lot more useful on the court.

Ehh I don't know. It's arguable. Gasol as a 1st or 2nd option at this point is a failure but as a 3rd option especially in the East he's a difference maker.

[Levity]

The one thing Gasol doesn't do, is space the floor. :wtf: ?

space the floor for kyrie and waiters. meaning gasol will attract more defense towards him in the low post, so teams will either have to come off kyrie and waiters a bit, or allow pau to go 1 on 1 with his defender every time. and a healthy pau is still pretty damn good in the post. you really couldnt put that together on your own?

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 1m
Luol Deng rejected a 3 year, $30 million extension with Bulls last week, league source tells Yahoo. Turned out to be prelude to trade.

good job cavs....overpaid to trade him...now overpay him in the summer

[Remix]

So can the bulls cut Bynum and amnesty Boozer?

[Illuminati]

Bulls are going to waive Bynum tomorrow, then The Don Pat Riley will sign him for a piece of bread. My Heatles in 6.:rockon:

[Levity]

bulls fans, do you want to see tony snell start at the 2 next to jimmy? or does dunleavy start because the lack of scorers.

[coin24]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 1m
Luol Deng rejected a 3 year, $30 million extension with Bulls last week, league source tells Yahoo. Turned out to be prelude to trade.

good job cavs....overpaid to trade him...now overpay him in the summer


How is Deng worth more than that?:confusedshrug:

[BlackVVaves]

space the floor for kyrie and waiters. meaning gasol will attract more defense towards him in the low post, so teams will either have to come off kyrie and waiters a bit, or allow pau to go 1 on 1 with his defender every time. and a healthy pau is still pretty damn good in the post. you really couldnt put that together on your own?

There's a difference between attracting attention in the post, and spacing the floor.

Cavs also get exponentially worst in half court and transition defense with Pau starting in their starting lineup. Exponentially.

And lastly, the Cavs are stuffed at the 4/5 position, and thin at the 3. And while I think they gave up too much for a rental, Deng fills a need MUCH more than Pau.

Why do I think Deng is a half year rental? Because unless Grant is willing to pay him, he's dipping for that money:


Luol Deng rejected a 3 year, $30 million extension with Bulls last week, league source tells Yahoo. Turned out to be prelude to trade.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

How is Deng worth more than that?:confusedshrug:

aye man ask him & his agent :roll:

[Jakeh008]

A 6th seed playoff team traded their leading scorer for money and protected picks.

Go East!

[hawksdogsbraves]

Wow, good trade for the Cavs I think, props to being sick of tanking and doing something about it. There's no reason this team can't finish fairly high in the East, they lack size but that doesn't really matter at this point.

[oh the horror]

Wow Chicago. Really?

[redboy]

good trade for both sides. cavs get the extra help they need in order to make a push into the playoffs while the bulls cheap fo saves the money they want to save while getting better at tanking

[BlazerRed]

I think this is good. Chicago's run was done. Rose has been injured for 2 years now, Deng has been injured on and off, Noah, Boozer etc all have faced injuries. This team was never going to get itself together all healthy and primed for a championship run. In my opinion, even if they did, they still wouldn't beat Miami. Blow it up now, get some picks, make some trades. Shake it up a little and get rid of the terrible contracts if possible.

[longtime lurker]

A 6th seed playoff team traded their leading scorer for money and protected picks.

Go East!

Lottery wheel is looking more and more like a possibility.

[Jameerthefear]

whaaaaat. cavs got jobbed...

[LBJMVP]

People say we need to stop sucking and trade assets for a star player and we fin

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Jeff Zillgitt ‏@JeffZillgitt 3m
Have been told Luol Deng's reps wanted $15-16 million/season. Trade now gives Bulls time to waive Bynum before his deal is full guaranteed.

:biggums: :roll:

[poido123]

Hes most likely getting waived. This is a cap saving move. And they grabbed a draft pick apparently.


Please say it isn't so :(

[Jameerthefear]

[QUOTE=LBJMVP]People say we need to stop sucking and trade assets for a star player and we fin

[JimmyMcAdocious]

What team in their right mind would pay Deng 15 a year?

[Scholar]

Time for Bynum to retire if he gets cut by the Bulls. Dude has no heart to be a basketball player.

[poido123]

Wow, good trade for the Cavs I think, props to being sick of tanking and doing something about it. There's no reason this team can't finish fairly high in the East, they lack size but that doesn't really matter at this point.

This improves Cavs dramatically.

Anyone know what Bulls got back>?

[redboy]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10255605/cleveland-cavaliers-agree-trade-andrew-bynum-chicago-bulls-luol-deng

3 picks: 1 1st rounder, 2 2nd rounders and the 1st rounder is top 10 protected

[LilEddyCurry]

Rt: "@Derrickrose: itz all Good. Me nd Da Homie Bynum finna tear the league up"
You mean, Tear ligaments, Derrick, you guys will tear those, in your knees
Is that nathanjizzle?

[poido123]

Wow Chicago. Really?

:rockon:

Best thing they did.

I'm worried about losing a draft pick though...We must be getting something decent back.

[coin24]

Time for Bynum to retire if he gets cut by the Bulls. Dude has no heart to be a basketball player.

Hell prob join the Heat or Clippers :facepalm

[BlackVVaves]

[QUOTE=LBJMVP]People say we need to stop sucking and trade assets for a star player and we fin

[DaSeba5]

Is Chicago going to waive Bynum?

[poido123]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10255605/cleveland-cavaliers-agree-trade-andrew-bynum-chicago-bulls-luol-deng

3 picks: 1 1st rounder, 2 2nd rounders and the 1st rounder is top 10 protected


:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

Great work Pax :cheers:

We are loaded with picks now

[NattyPButter]

What team in their right mind would pay Deng 15 a year?

Cavs would just to keep him. But the moment he drinks the water he will suck.

[Jameerthefear]

am i the only one who thinks that the cavs made a bad trade?

[East_Stone_Ya]

Is Chicago going to waive Bynum?

they should

[BlazerRed]

Now what happens with Waiters?

[97 bulls]

I kinda liked the idea of having Bynum and Noah start together. If Bynum could stay healthy and keep his head on straight.

[Jyap9675]

Rebuild time for the bulls... damn that kinda hurts..

[poido123]

The worst place for Bynum if he wants to protect those brittle knees :lol

Loving those draft picks we got though.

We got some real value out of trading Deng, when we could of lost him in the offseason.

[Kingsfans818]

am i the only one who thinks that the cavs made a bad trade?

Cleveland got robbed

Chicago was going to let deng walk for the amount of money he was asking for

They now got draft picks out of it I don't think their significantly worse with butler at the 3?

[poido123]

Now what happens with Waiters?

I'd say they will look to trade the second part before the deadline.

I was hoping Chicago might of got him too :D

[BlazerRed]

Reckon Cleveland moves Waiters now?

[NattyPButter]

What happens with Waiters now?

nothing...The Cavs can stop playing 3 gaurds with Waiters at the 3 now. I hated that crap. Waiters isn't getting traded he's to much of a stud.

[Jameerthefear]

Now what happens with Waiters?
what do u mean?

[DaSeba5]

Will Chicago waive Bynum?

[Jyap9675]

Yea great trade by the bulls!

[poido123]

Cleveland got robbed

Chicago was going to let deng walk for the amount of money he was asking for

They now got draft picks out of it I don't think their significantly worse with butler at the 3?

I'm stoked :rockon:

The best part out of all of this, is we now have a stack of draft picks(we draft really well), really good assets that we can now build for the future.

I liked Deng and his professional attitude, but he was one dimensional and 29 with high mielage. Good luck to your future endeavours Deng :cheers:

[Jameerthefear]

Will Chicago waive Bynum?
probably...

[fiddy]

Is Chicago going to waive Bynum?
id be laughing my ass off if they dont


what do u mean?

He demanded a trade? :confusedshrug:

[Jameerthefear]

id be laughing my ass off if they dont



He demanded a trade? :confusedshrug:
no he didn't?
also what year are the picks?

[poido123]

Will Chicago waive Bynum?

They might look to trade him again :confusedshrug:

[AirTupac]

One of the picks is basically useless since its the King pick (I think) and it would require them to make the playoffs in the next 2 years :oldlol:

[Illuminati]

http://youtu.be/gTGxzAaAk5M

Damn, it was all good just a few months ago.:lol

[KyrieTheFuture]

Dion already came out denying trade demands, I love this trade for us.

[GoRapz]

Assuming Bynum is included in the deal...if he can get his head straight and buy into Chicago's system, this will be an awesome deal for Chicago

[Budadiiii]

Great deal for the Bulls.

[NattyPButter]

I'm stoked :rockon:

The best part out of all of this, is we now have a stack of draft picks(we draft really well), really good assets that we can now build for the future.

I liked Deng and his professional attitude, but he was one dimensional and 29 with high mielage. Good luck to your future endeavours Deng :cheers:

you really have nothing. What you have is 2 2nd rounders and Sacs 1st that is protected. The team sucks so bad that the Bulls will never see it. The team can swap the Cavs 2015 which is also lottery protected. So all I see is the Bulls got Bynum and 2 2nd rounders.

[fiddy]

no he didn't?
also what year are the picks?

bleacher report :facepalm

Anyway the general consent is that he not very happy atm.

[Go Getter]

Assuming Bynum is included in the deal...if he can get his head straight and buy into Chicago's system, this will be an awesome deal for Chicago
:biggums:

[KG215]

At first I was like bagelred Gorgui Deng thread :facepalm then i was all like :eek: :eek: :eek:
Gorgui's last name is spelled and pronounced differently than Luol's.

[kamil]

So who's going to be the starting centre? Is Joakim gonna hold his starting spot? They can't play them both... :/

[El Kabong]

you really have nothing. What you have is 2 2nd rounders and Sacs 1st that is protected. The team sucks so bad that the Bulls will never see it. The team can swap the Cavs 2015 which is also lottery protected. So all I see is the Bulls got Bynum and 2 2nd rounders.
Still better than nothing since they were going to let Deng walk once he turned down the extension. Get a few draft picks and some tax savings, it's not amazing, but it's a decent return.

[Eric Cartman]

Andrew Bynum IS included in this deal:

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/01/07/cavs-bulls-trade.ap/index.html

[poido123]

you really have nothing. What you have is 2 2nd rounders and Sacs 1st that is protected. The team sucks so bad that the Bulls will never see it. The team can swap the Cavs 2015 which is also lottery protected. So all I see is the Bulls got Bynum and 2 2nd rounders.


Comon man, don't piss on my parade :D

For our team's flexibility? It was well worth it. Deng is 29 and suits a team that can use him as a spot up shooter, like the Cavs will. Deng is the perfect fit for that team, he won't have to be relied upon for offense as much and he can focus more on defense, along with being one of the most well behaved players in the league.

I'm happy for the Cavs too, they got themselves a great player for what they need.

[fiddy]

So who's going to be the starting centre? Is Joakim gonna hold his starting spot? They can't play them both... :/
I believe Drew is getting waived.

[poido123]

Dion already came out denying trade demands, I love this trade for us.

I do too :cheers:

I genuinely hope good things for your franchise, I'm happy we both got what we wanted out of it.

[Kingsfans818]

you really have nothing. What you have is 2 2nd rounders and Sacs 1st that is protected. The team sucks so bad that the Bulls will never see it. The team can swap the Cavs 2015 which is also lottery protected. So all I see is the Bulls got Bynum and 2 2nd rounders.

Deng has already shown his abilities -- he's a good
Defensive ability with the ability to be the 3rd/4th offensive option on a great team

The 3/30 offer was above market value -- Chicago would have no option but to let him walk knowing they need the cap space to
Sign a legitimate running mate for rose

The team
Doesn't get any worse with butler at the 3

Cleveland has a good chance of sneaking
Into the bottom of the playoff race and with Chicagos draft history they can get extremely valuable pieces to complete the puzzle on rookie deals

[Kingsfans818]

The protected picks also offer assets for a future sign and trade (melo )

Which is better than "nothing"

[Kingsfans818]

Comon man, don't piss on my parade :D

For our team's flexibility? It was well worth it. Deng is 29 and suits a team that can use him as a spot up shooter, like the Cavs will. Deng is the perfect fit for that team, he won't have to be relied upon for offense as much and he can focus more on defense, along with being one of the most well behaved players in the league.

I'm happy for the Cavs too, they got themselves a great player for what they need.

I really don't see how the cavs got anything here unless they plan on paying significantly over market to keep deng ?

Maybe a first round playoff sweep is a victory ?

[postmupndunkit]

That trade was for the picks. In addition Reinsdorf is cheap and won't extend the man so whatever. Andrew Bynum will be WAIVED today. Mark my Flucking words. :pimp: He is a cancer and is too much on the books for Chicago. Boozer is up next... for trade bait. If Booz makes it through the trade deadline he will be amnestied in the off season.

Noah
Gibson
NIKOLA MIROTIC
Dunleavy or Draft Pick
Rose

Hell I say package Boozer, Dunleavy, Teague, for Pau Gasol

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ko3ua6n

[KyrieTheFuture]

Since when did trading what will equate to 3 second round picks (Sac pick will never be given they're not gonna be out of the lottery the next 2 years) become getting fleeced? Deng is a superior player to Gasol and we have nothing at the 3 while being overstocked in the 4/5 department

[Go Getter]

People constantly contradict themselves when it comes to the Bulls FO.

We paid Jay Williams even though we didn't have to
We payed Ben Wallace a lot of money for next to nothing
We gave rose his payday
We paid Boozer
We paid Deng
We paid Noah

Yet we are a cheap franchise.:rolleyes:

[fiddy]

Hell I say package Boozer, Dunleavy, Teague, for Pau Gasol

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ko3ua6n
No thanks :oldlol:

[Kingsfans818]

Since when did trading what will equate to 3 second round picks (Sac pick will never be given they're not gonna be out of the lottery the next 2 years) become getting fleeced? Deng is a superior player to Gasol and we have nothing at the 3 while being overstocked in the 4/5 department

What does deng do you beyond this season? Do you
Resign a 30 year old deng to the 3/38 deal he wants?

Where does the team go with deng on It this year?

I don't see any value? Let's say you
Win 6 more games -- what difference does It make ?

[poido123]

People constantly contradict themselves when it comes to the Bulls FO.

We paid Jay Williams even though we didn't have to
We payed Ben Wallace a lot of money for next to nothing
We gave rose his payday
We paid Boozer
We paid Deng
We paid Noah

Yet we are a cheap franchise.:rolleyes:


When people are saying we are cheap, they are talking about how the organisation annually stays under the salary cap except the last few years. But yes, you are right in that aspect. We do pay for the good players, when it is required.

[Kingsfans818]

:bowdown:
Since when did trading what will equate to 3 second round picks (Sac pick will never be given they're not gonna be out of the lottery the next 2 years) become getting fleeced? Deng is a superior player to Gasol and we have nothing at the 3 while being overstocked in the 4/5 department

Last time I remember cavs fans talking about insignificant picks
Was the one that ended up going to the clippers for the baron davis trade

[ProfessorMurder]

The 3/30 offer was above market value

:oldlol: Larry Sanders signed 4/44 and Deng is better than him.

[KyrieTheFuture]

I do too :cheers:

I genuinely hope good things for your franchise, I'm happy we both got what we wanted out of it.
It's a rare occasion you get to say pleasure doing business with you when it comes to a trade but both teams benefit here for sure.

[Solefade]

would be amazing if Bulls somehow got Jabari Parker

[shaq2000]

Assuming Bynum is included in the deal...if he can get his head straight and buy into Chicago's system, this will be an awesome deal for Chicago

The Bulls will be promptly waiving Bynum's ass on Tuesday. Trust me.

[veilside23]

Since when did trading what will equate to 3 second round picks (Sac pick will never be given they're not gonna be out of the lottery the next 2 years) become getting fleeced? Deng is a superior player to Gasol and we have nothing at the 3 while being overstocked in the 4/5 department


well that's for drafting bennett .. you would have a real 3 of that pick was someone else or if what traded...

i dont know maybe the bulls can get the #1 pick again...

[KyrieTheFuture]

What does deng do you beyond this season? Do you
Resign a 30 year old deng to the 3/38 deal he wants?

Where does the team go with deng on It this year?

I don't see any value? Let's say you
Win 6 more games -- what difference does It make ?
Okay what would Pau or Jefferson do? Even less. Yea okay that's a real fair comparison I was unaware that second round picks could net you the first pick in the draft.

Edit: How do people lack such basic understanding of basketball that Sac pick has fairly heavy protections on it and the swap is lottery protected.

[Kingsfans818]

:oldlol: Larry Sanders signed 4/44 and Deng is better than him.

You have consider age and position

22 year old promising center v
30 year old swing man

Potential has a lot of value in the nba -- especially with big men ( darko , asik, James jones , etc)

[poido123]

It's a rare occasion you get to say pleasure doing business with you when it comes to a trade but both teams benefit here for sure.

Fingers crossed he stays with you guys and accepts 8-10 mill.

I think he's the type of guy that would. He would see a future with the cavs and their talent.

[DMAVS41]

Great for Cavs if they can sign Deng to a good deal in offseason.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

CBS reporting it's the kings heavily protected pick (this year) and 2 2nd rounders. And the right to swap 1sts in 2015. I was worried for the cabs when I saw 3 future picks but that's not too bad.

[postmupndunkit]

When people are saying we are cheap, they are talking about how the organisation annually stays under the salary cap except the last few years. But yes, you are right in that aspect. We do pay for the good players, when it is required.

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/8_FyvXamDKexuwshsAUPEQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnbaexperts/ReinsdorfJax.jpg

[Kingsfans818]

Okay what would Pau or Jefferson do? Even less. Yea okay that's a real fair comparison I was unaware that second round picks could net you the first pick in the draft.

Edit: How do people lack such basic understanding of basketball that Sac pick has fairly heavy protections on it and the swap is lottery protected.

We don't know for sure if the they won't be first round picks -- I can easily see Cleveland sneaking into the playoffs @ bottom seed now with Chicago dismantling

[VIntageNOvel]

kings gonna make playoff next year book it,
cousin is just too good

[poido123]

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/8_FyvXamDKexuwshsAUPEQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnbaexperts/ReinsdorfJax.jpg


I should be more specific sometimes. That goes without saying, we were winning titles then, it made sense to go over the cap.

[poido123]

The Bulls will be promptly waiving Bynum's ass on Tuesday. Trust me.

Yeah, it's a shame.

[andremiller07]

:oldlol: Larry Sanders signed 4/44 and Deng is better than him.
Sanders is 25 and probably the best shot blocker in the NBA and still has upside.

[Kingsfans818]

kings gonna make playoff next year book it,
cousin is just too good

Also a possibility with how aggressive management as been

It's just a lot of pieces that have potential value for getting absolutely no value in return

[poido123]

would be amazing if Bulls somehow got Jabari Parker

Perhaps Bulls acquiring those picks to move up in the draft order?

Hoemtown Jabari would be a perfect addition.

Rose, Butler, Jabari, Mirotic, Noah. That's an awesome core.

Dreams are nice :oldlol:

[KyrieTheFuture]

We don't know for sure if the they won't be first round picks -- I can easily see Cleveland sneaking into the playoffs @ bottom seed now with Chicago dismantling

What don't you understand about the fact that the 1st round pick isn't ours? The pick being a 1st or 2nd is determined by Sacramento's ability to get into the playoffs not ours

Edit: You're a kings fan you should know this already.

[nathanjizzle]

derrick rose gets rid of everyone that doesnt get along with him. ben gordan, kirk hinrich, now loul deng:bowdown:

[Kingsfans818]

What don't you understand about the fact that the 1st round pick isn't ours? The pick being a 1st or 2nd is determined by Sacramento's ability to get into the playoffs not ours

Edit: You're a kings fan you should know this already.

Got it -- my mistake

Even if it's 3 second round picks -- going
Into next season the trade is basically getting something for nothing ( or a 1 year rental)

[poido123]

What don't you understand about the fact that the 1st round pick isn't ours? The pick being a 1st or 2nd is determined by Sacramento's ability to get into the playoffs not ours

Edit: You're a kings fan you should know this already.

Unfortunately, this is correct.

We are relying on the Kings to make playoffs either this year(won't happen) or next year(1% chance of happening) to get the first round pick.

[plowking]

Perhaps Bulls acquiring those picks to move up in the draft order?

Hoemtown Jabari would be a perfect addition.

Rose, Butler, Jabari, Mirotic, Noah. That's an awesome core.

Dreams are nice :oldlol:

Right way to go about building a team, right poido?

[poido123]

Right way to go about building a team, right poido?

*sensing heavy sarcasm*

:coleman:

[KyrieTheFuture]

Got it -- my mistake

Even if it's 3 second round picks -- going
Into next season the trade is basically getting something for nothing ( or a 1 year rental)
:cheers:

To us, those picks are very low value, we have enough cheap talent on the team we don't need those low contracts to conserve cap space. We also don't have anything to package with those to trade for a legit star, at least in my opinion. If we lose Deng, oh well we didn't lose much of consequence. Who's actually gonna pay him money though? He will probably stay.

[Kingsfans818]

What don't you understand about the fact that the 1st round pick isn't ours? The pick being a 1st or 2nd is determined by Sacramento's ability to get into the playoffs not ours

Edit: You're a kings fan you should know this already.

I can see your perspective as that you
Got a lot of value ( former allstar) for 2nd rounders -- I just don't see it being a good fit based on circumstance

I would rather take by shot with the 2nd rounders to add with my young core

[Kingsfans818]

:cheers:

To us, those picks are very low value, we have enough cheap talent on the team we don't need those low contracts to conserve cap space. We also don't have anything to package with those to trade for a legit star, at least in my opinion. If we lose Deng, oh well we didn't lose much of consequence. Who's actually gonna pay him money though? He will probably stay.

I can seeing him signing with any of the losers of the fa hunt for equal money for the opportunity to compete

[Jameerthefear]

would be amazing if Bulls somehow got Jabari Parker
except they wont

[PleezeBelieve]

Fair trade or the Cavs & Bulls considering Deng can walk at the end of the season.

Like it for both sides

[poido123]

except they wont

Go hate somewhere else.

Aren't you in the wrong thread? :rolleyes:

[Jameerthefear]

Go hate somewhere else.

Aren't you in the wrong thread? :rolleyes:
not hating. they won't.

[PleezeBelieve]

Cavs have Deng's bird rights. Can offer him an extra year even at a lower yearly salary than other teams:

Cavs may offer 4 years 44 mill (Bulls only offered 3 years) while holding the ace card with a 5th year option if anyone wants to go crazy and give him a four year deal.

[Lebron23]

Are the Bulls planning to waive Andrew Bynum??

[Clutch]

So you're telling me that the Cavs gave up 3 or 4 picks to rent Luol Deng for half of season.
Not LeBron James,not Kevin Durant,but Luol Deng.

Cavs :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[davehos]

Fair trade or the Cavs & Bulls considering Deng can walk at the end of the season.

Like it for both sides

... this. If the Cavs can keep Deng I think the Cavs come out on top with the emergence of Irving.

I think this is just more bait to go after Lebron. The Cavs can be contenders in the east. Bynum was dead weight.

[poido123]

So you're telling me that the Cavs gave up 3 or 4 picks to rent Luol Deng for half of season.
Not LeBron James,not Kevin Durant,but Luol Deng.

Cavs :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

The 1st round pick is likely useless(Kings won't make playoffs this year or next)

And 2 2nd rounders which usually don't get anything.

Not all that bad. Cavs are probably confident they can resign Deng.

[Jameerthefear]

... this. If the Cavs can keep Deng I think the Cavs come out on top with the emergence of Irving.

I think this is just more bait to go after Lebron. The Cavs can be contenders in the east. Bynum was dead weight.
nope

[coin24]

Are the Bulls planning to waive Andrew Bynum??

Id say so. Whole reason they did the deal.

Miami?:oldlol:

[davehos]

nope

Cavs are what .. 3 games out of the playoffs right now? Deng makes them better.

They're going to be MUCH better with Deng. He's a great defender and can score.

Let the record be set. Cavs make it past the first round.

(I'll be back.)

[davehos]

So you're telling me that the Cavs gave up 3 or 4 picks to rent Luol Deng for half of season.
Not LeBron James,not Kevin Durant,but Luol Deng.

Cavs :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


This coming from a Knicks fan? Am I the only one that got a good laugh out of poor use of picks?

[Go Getter]

Having a legit 3 helps the Cavs a lot. Who has played 3 for them this year? CJ Miles?

[iDunk]

Cavs are what .. 3 games out of the playoffs right now? Deng makes them better.

They're going to be MUCH better with Deng. He's a great defender and can score.

Let the record be set. Cavs make it past the first round.

(I'll be back.)
BAHAHAHAHAHAH, I'll be shocked if the Cavs even make the playoffs.

[ballinhun8]

The Sacramento pick is top 12 protected in 2014 and then top 10 protected from '15-'17. So in all reality Sacramento doesn't even have to make the playoffs the next four years. Just barely miss em lol.



Even so the deal is what we needed. We needed cap relief, extra picks, playing time for Snell. This season was lost the second Rose fell to the ground in Portland. So heres to Jabari and Derrick, Simeon in the NBA!!

[PleezeBelieve]

Cavs are set. They got a bunch of solid two-way players already and Deng fits right in while also brining a veteran, playoff tested presence.

I'm excited.

[Clutch]

This coming from a Knicks fan? Am I the only one that got a good laugh out of poor use of picks?
I didn't say the Knicks were any better. Usually they make stupid trades so I'm using this opportunity to laugh at other teams until the Knicks make another stupid deal :lol

[All Net]

BAHAHAHAHAHAH, I'll be shocked if the Cavs still make the playoffs.

Deng will improve them Alot. They are only 3 games out. That's nothing.

[All Net]

Are the Bulls planning to waive Andrew Bynum??

Yeah they will.

[Myth]

I want Noah traded to the Cavs, just to see him back pedal on his statement about the city from years ago.

[Solefade]

Bulls trade up to get Jabari somehow and pair him up with D. Rose as heros of chi-town..EPIC!





http://31.media.tumblr.com/ca315e77c6f88d11e472ea81e7869568/tumblr_msfpvktEJi1qbaz10o1_500.gif

[Clutch]

I want Noah traded to the Cavs, just to see him back pedal on his statement about the city from years ago.
That would be hilarious :oldlol:

[Eric Cartman]

Bulls trade up to get Jabari somehow and pair him up with D. Rose as heros of chi-town..EPIC!

Yeah teams are gonna be trading a top 3 pick this year...

[Scal]

Cavs have Deng's bird rights. Can offer him an extra year even at a lower yearly salary than other teams:

Cavs may offer 4 years 44 mill (Bulls only offered 3 years) while holding the ace card with a 5th year option if anyone wants to go crazy and give him a four year deal.

Came here to mention the only advantage of trading for Deng now is the Bird Right situation and it allows them to offer him more. At any rate, he walks and the Cavs have only given up Bynum (an experiment they have pretty much admitted did not work and was low risk anyway with the way they structure his contract).

What would the free agent market be for Deng? Any teams with enough cap space (I imagine someone would overpay).

[pauk]

Oh snap, Bynum @ Miami? :)

[Lebron23]

Id say so. Whole reason they did the deal.

Miami?:oldlol:


I hope Riley gives him another chance just like when the Heat signed Michael Beasley.

[ripthekik]

Oh snap, Bynum @ Miami? :)
Lebron doesn't have enough help :oldlol:

[All Net]

If Bynum lands in Miami.. Hibbert looking like Kareem against them ends.

[Crystallas]

http://i.imgur.com/r7YZUnK.jpg

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/1006/chi_deng_300.jpg

[Nash]

Miami got and got themselves some morals and are not going after Bynum after going after troubled guys like Beasley and Andersen. Instead they are don't want to cut Mason JR because he's a good dude and have put their hopes on the worst knees in sports of history, Oden. Indiana will shit on them.

Clippers are cutting Stephen Jackson and unless they got their eyes on Turkododo I'm pretty sure they are making a spot for Bynum.

[HylianNightmare]

bulls going to amnesty boozer now?

[HylianNightmare]

Miami got and got themselves some morals and are not going after Bynum after going after troubled guys like Beasley and Andersen. Instead they are don't want to cut Mason JR because he's a good dude and have put their hopes on the worst knees in sports of history, Oden. Indiana will shit on them.

Clippers are cutting Stephen Jackson and unless they got their eyes on Turkododo I'm pretty sure they are making a spot for Bynum.
i thought they worked out HEdo

[Meticode]

A lot of people are ignorant in this thread. It's a chance the organization is going to take and I'm fine with it. The Cavs go out and trade for a player where they are the weakest at, at that position and people crucify them for it. I see a lot of...

"OMG Cavs got robbed, they traded 3 picks for it!"

...they act like we gave up 3 top 10 guaranteed picks for Deng. Two of them are second rounders, and the top 10 pick is a Kings pick, that of which they have to make the playoffs 2 years in a row in order for it to a be a top 10 pick in the first place, otherwise it'll basically be a second round pick.

I'm fine with the trade, the Cavs are taking a chance on fixing a glaring positional issue. At least they're not going into the draft and drafting a player at #1 when they already have a starting PF at that players spot..oh wait...

I'm fine with Deng getting $11-$13 million a season, $15 is a little high to me, but whatever. Everyone overpays in this league 90% of the time.

[DukeDelonte13]

win win for both teams.

cavs didn't give up much to get Deng, Bulls get tons of salary relief and some seconds they can package to move up in the draft with.


I'm not getting my hopes up about signing Deng long term. It's possible but i just have no clue what Grant/Deng are thinking in that regard.

[It's A VC3!!!]

I wanted the nets to get deng but the cavs need to start winning games now. They might get another top 5-10 pick this year and next year they need to be a playoff team. Good move by cavs and surprised why deng felt he was worth more than 10mm per year.... Dude is always injured.

[kshutts1]

Cavs should make the playoffs this year, and as long as they're not 7th or 8th seed they'll make the second round, which would be a huge win for the franchise.

Bulls, I felt, could have gotten more for Deng. I'm pretty disappointed in our "haul". The first round picks are not likely to be very good ones, but I actually expect the Bulls to use them as assets in a future trade as opposed to actually drafting with them. Since the Bulls are clearly looking towards the future, now, perhaps they can find someone to take Boozer off our hands?

The real loser in this is me. I bought tickets to the Wizards/Bulls game in a couple weeks, thinking I'd see Rose vs. Wall, Beal vs Butler, two exciting teams in the East... instead, it will be the Wizards just laying the smack down on Augustin, Butler, and Noah.

[hawkfan]

Deng will get a big contract this year, say 4 years, 56 million.
The Cavs have no choice, since they gave up so much to get him.

[B-hoop]

If Bulls amnesty Boozer will they have cap to sign Melo in the offseason?

[LBJMVP]

A star player? :biggums:
All star.

[All Net]

Miami got and got themselves some morals and are not going after Bynum after going after troubled guys like Beasley and Andersen. Instead they are don't want to cut Mason JR because he's a good dude and have put their hopes on the worst knees in sports of history, Oden. Indiana will shit on them.

Clippers are cutting Stephen Jackson and unless they got their eyes on Turkododo I'm pretty sure they are making a spot for Bynum.

Miami would be fools to not at least sign him Up.. He fills a big need against indy for one.

[andremiller07]

I'm not so sure the Cavs should waste money resigning him, while he's a good player he's going into his 30's and the amount of mins he's played he's probably a lot older body wise and he will break down sooner rather than later.

If your going to spend upwards of 12+million than do it on someone young with potential, maybe try get Greg Monroe in the offseason, trade for Larry Sanders or something like that.

[Godzuki]

Deng will get a big contract this year, say 4 years, 56 million.
The Cavs have no choice, since they gave up so much to get him.


yeah $14mill long deal sounds about right to keep him.

[Haymaker]

Nets should try and get Bynum to make up for Lopez's injury. Not that Bynum is a healthy player, but it's better than nothing.

[knickballer]

Great trade for the Bulls which allows them to go in full tank mode.

Grab a top notch prospect like Wiggins and pair them up with the guys you already have. If Rose can come back to be his former self you are looking at a potential dynasty.

This is how you win games folks. Trading for Luol Deng when your a below average squad doesn't!

[Godzuki]

Nets should try and get Bynum to make up for Lopez's injury. Not that Bynum is a healthy player, but it's better than nothing.


they need to play Blatche more. he's underrated.

[D-Wait]

Deng will get a big contract this year, say 4 years, 56 million.
The Cavs have no choice, since they gave up so much to get him.

two 2nd rounders, a heavily protected Sac 1st rounder and the rights to swap for the Cavs 2015 pick (only if the Cavs make the playoffs) is hardly ''so much'' :facepalm

[hawkfan]

two 2nd rounders, a heavily protected Sac 1st rounder and the rights to swap for the Cavs 2015 pick (only if the Cavs make the playoffs) is hardly ''so much'' :facepalm

The Bulls can take the 2 2nd round picks and swap them out to move into the first round in the 18-30 range in the draft, because there usually are a few teams that are looking to save cap space for a free agent run.

So effectively, the Cavs gave up 2 first round picks.

And that is just for this season. The Cavs could simply have waited until the summer to sign him then and not give up anything. But the Cavs are still fighting for this season.

Also we don't know if the Cavs wanted to include Anthony Bennett in the deal instead or whether the Bulls didn't want him.

[bagelred]

A lot of people are ignorant in this thread. It's a chance the organization is going to take and I'm fine with it. The Knicks go out and trade for a player where they are the weakest at, at that position and people crucify them for it. I see a lot of...

"OMG Knicks got robbed, they traded 3 picks for it!"

...they act like we gave up 3 top 10 guaranteed picks for Bargnani. Two of them are second rounders, and the protected pick is a Nuggets swap pick.



Fixed.

[bagelred]

Once again, a team being praised for tanking. The NBA, ladies and gentlemen.....:hammerhead:

[DukeDelonte13]

The Bulls can take the 2 2nd round picks and swap them out to move into the first round in the 18-30 range in the draft, because there usually are a few teams that are looking to save cap space for a free agent run.

So effectively, the Cavs gave up 2 first round picks.

And that is just for this season. The Cavs could simply have waited until the summer to sign him then and not give up anything. But the Cavs are still fighting for this season.

Also we don't know if the Cavs wanted to include Anthony Bennett in the deal instead or whether the Bulls didn't want him.


effectively they really gave up 3 second rounders because the kings aren't making the playoffs anytime soon. Yes the bulls can theoretically package the picks to make moves which is exactly what the cavs did when they had him.

Anthony Bennett? I don't think he'd be on the trading block so soon, but either him or TT could be moved sometime down the road.

[ripthekik]

so it is possible deng play tonight? or 0% chance

[NumberSix]

How fcuking retarded is Cleveland?



edit: Wait a minute. Was it Chicago that gave Cleveland the picks? :wtf:

[PleezeBelieve]

How fcuking retarded is Cleveland?



edit: Wait a minute. Was it Chicago that gave Cleveland the picks? :wtf:
Shut up idiot

[hawkfan]

effectively they really gave up 3 second rounders because the kings aren't making the playoffs anytime soon. Yes the bulls can theoretically package the picks to make moves which is exactly what the cavs did when they had him.

Anthony Bennett? I don't think he'd be on the trading block so soon, but either him or TT could be moved sometime down the road.

Deng is a very good player, but more importantly he can change the basketball culture for the team.

And the owner is saying - we've spent enough time in the lottery, let's get in the playoffs.

Also, he is looking at the young players and see which player are going to grow and which ones won't.

[MP.Trey]

so it is possible deng play tonight? or 0% chance
The trade was announced last night at like 2 AM Eastern so chances are about 0.1% chance of Deng playing tonight. Debut will probably be Friday against the Jazz.

[Kujo]

Count down to D-Rose for asking for a trade.

[Nash]

Count down to D-Rose for asking for a trade.
..and he will end up nowhere with that contract of his.

[HurricaneKid]

The Bulls can take the 2 2nd round picks and swap them out to move into the first round in the 18-30 range in the draft, because there usually are a few teams that are looking to save cap space for a free agent run.

So effectively, the Cavs gave up 2 first round picks.


This is an awful post.

First off, the Sac pick is almost certainly going to be a second round pick as they absolutely won't be out of the bottom 12 this year and it looks doubtful they will be out of the bottom 10 the following two years. So its a Sac 2nd rd pick in 2017.

The 2nd rd picks are both from Portland. So you are looking at ~56-58 this year and late next year. The two of them together MIGHT garner a ~#45 pick but I doubt it (last year the Bucks traded #43 and next year's #2 for #38).

So Cle gave up NO first round picks and there is at best a ~50/50 Chicago even gets a player that will make their roster.

[PleezeBelieve]

Cavs still got their first round and second picks this year. Cavs are set here.

[LBJMVP]

So you're telling me that the Cavs gave up 3 or 4 picks to rent Luol Deng for half of season.
Not LeBron James,not Kevin Durant,but Luol Deng.

Cavs :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
2 second rounders and the kings pick could end up a second rounder and then an option to swap picks. So we maybe just have up 3 second round picks. Anyone who thinks cleveland hosed is just one of those people who think it's the in thing to make fun of the cavs. And we could resign him.

[LBJMVP]

How fcuking retarded is Cleveland?



edit: Wait a minute. Was it Chicago that gave Cleveland the picks? :wtf:
People acting like we gave up 3 first round picks lmao. Both teams got what they wAnted and if say we made out much better in the trade. Gave up a guy we were gonna waive and some 2nd rounders for deng and people are saying we got hosed? Lmao

[red1]

good trade for cleveland

[hawkfan]

This is an awful post.

First off, the Sac pick is almost certainly going to be a second round pick as they absolutely won't be out of the bottom 12 this year and it looks doubtful they will be out of the bottom 10 the following two years. So its a Sac 2nd rd pick in 2017.

The 2nd rd picks are both from Portland. So you are looking at ~56-58 this year and late next year. The two of them together MIGHT garner a ~#45 pick but I doubt it (last year the Bucks traded #43 and next year's #2 for #38).

So Cle gave up NO first round picks and there is at best a ~50/50 Chicago even gets a player that will make their roster.

The Bulls can take their second round pick in 2014 and then the other second round pick they got from Cleveland.

And some team in the 18-30 range in the first will look to clear out that pick to make a run at free agency.

This happens almost every single year.

Otherwise, the Bulls can package one or two of their second round picks with Boozer next year (or even this year to Charlotte) to clear out his contract.

So no, it is not an awful post.

[TwentyThree]

[QUOTE]
Probasketballdraft @Probballdraft
One consideration w/ Luol Deng is he

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

wait...what?

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

The Bulls got a 1st and 2 2nd rounders???

Holy shit the Cavs trolled Mitch :oldlol:

I guess that aim high (for Waiters) approach blew up in their face :eek:
explain how it blew up in their face?

[Shade8780]

Shiiit.

[pegasus]

I guess it was time to part ways with Deng. I've always liked him as a player, but he is kinda injury prone (missed several playoff games in the last six years) and that will probably become only a bigger problem as he ages.

Butler will play a bigger role now, and Snell will get more PT, so it's all good, especially knowing we got some draft picks for a player that was going to leave in the free agency anyway.

[Black and White]

I don't really see how the Cavs got fleeced, 2 of the picks are second rounders and the Sac pick will most probably stay with sac, they brought in a piece in Deng that fills a hole they have. The only real issue here is the Cavs will most probably have to overpay to keep Deng.

[ispin69]

:oldlol: dat espn leak

No cap relief for the fakers. Shopping Pau for 2+ years because he quit when Kobe stole one of the finals mvp when they were both equally responsible for those two rings and should have shared with one finals mvp each. Good luck trying to bring him back for less money this summer when you gave that chucker 2 years with 24 mil each year...all the while he's not even playing and collecting 30 mil. You don't think Pau sees that?

[toneloc103]

you really have nothing. What you have is 2 2nd rounders and Sacs 1st that is protected. The team sucks so bad that the Bulls will never see it. The team can swap the Cavs 2015 which is also lottery protected. So all I see is the Bulls got Bynum and 2 2nd rounders.


And there you have it

[EnoughSaid]

Deng is severely underrated on ISH. He's a terrific defender, can play 40+ minutes on any given night, is a pretty good and efficient scorer, and he hustles like no other. The Cavs needed someone like him. A stable player who can slide right in. They should be save for the Playoffs and might make noise.