Woj eviscerates JR Smith

[STATUTORY]

Smith's always loved to play the part of a tough city kid, but truth be told, he's a soft, spoiled suburban jump shooter.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/knicks-bench-j-r--smith--but-nba-s-clown-prince-will-be-back-soon-enough-055612473.html

this is most scathing article I seen from Woj yet, but completely justified imo.

who would have thought Knicks show better ball movement and shot selection and commitment with this chucker on the bench

even isola roasted this fool:
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/isola-laces-smith-coming-undone-article-1.1571837

so you know Dolan's taken JR off his protected list. :applause:

[niko]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/knicks-bench-j-r--smith--but-nba-s-clown-prince-will-be-back-soon-enough-055612473.html

this is most scathing article I seen from Woj yet, but completely justified imo.

who would have thought Knicks show better ball movement and shot selection and commitment with this chucker on the bench

even isola roasted this fool:
http://m.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/isola-laces-smith-coming-undone-article-1.1571837

so you know Dolan's taken JR off his protected list. :applause:
Spoken like someone who doesn't follow the Knicks, Isola is one of the harshest beat writers in the country. Dude calls it as he sees it.

The thing I don't like here is this thought that JR is somehow the NBA's lone knucklehead. There are players that aren't in jail only by the grace of god but JR is untying shoes and he's the ultimate evil. Seems a small stretch to me.

[roffie]

harsh but true.

[STATUTORY]

Spoken like someone who doesn't follow the Knicks, Isola is one of the harshest beat writers in the country. Dude calls it as he sees it.

The thing I don't like here is this thought that JR is somehow the NBA's lone knucklehead. There are players that aren't in jail only by the grace of god but JR is untying shoes and he's the ultimate evil. Seems a small stretch to me.
not isolated incident, pattern of knucklehead behavior, some of which much more malicious than faking untying shoelace

[Teanett]

Spoken like someone who doesn't follow the Knicks, Isola is one of the harshest beat writers in the country. Dude calls it as he sees it.

The thing I don't like here is this thought that JR is somehow the NBA's lone knucklehead. There are players that aren't in jail only by the grace of god but JR is untying shoes and he's the ultimate evil. Seems a small stretch to me.

niko, you're nuts.
is there anybody displaying more unprofessional behaviour than jr smith?
the dude is constantly in trouble because of soft drugs and twitter. never anything serious, but being immature and stupid.
woj is right on, he's a spoiled brat.

[The JKidd Kid]

Spoken like someone who doesn't follow the Knicks, Isola is one of the harshest beat writers in the country. Dude calls it as he sees it.

The thing I don't like here is this thought that JR is somehow the NBA's lone knucklehead. There are players that aren't in jail only by the grace of god but JR is untying shoes and he's the ultimate evil. Seems a small stretch to me.

But when you really compare JR to the other knuckleheads in the league, he's the only one on a long term contract and the only one that is playing so far below what he could be if he could just get it together. The untying of an opponents shoes were just the straw that broke the camels back, not the main point of the whole situation.

[niko]

I stick by what I said. There's been a history of stupid shit in the league, we are acting all of a sudden like this is completely isolated, one time incident that the league never sees. JR's biggest crime is he sucks right now, when you are playing better your transgressions are much less. Wojo's article really paints this like it's isolated.

[Nick Young]

b-b-b-b-b-b-b-ut last year JR Smith was the Knicks hero:lol :lol :lol :lol

[BlackWhiteGreen]

I stick by what I said. There's been a history of stupid shit in the league, we are acting all of a sudden like this is completely isolated, one time incident that the league never sees. JR's biggest crime is he sucks right now, when you are playing better your transgressions are much less. Wojo's article really paints this like it's isolated.

[QUOTE]Within days of J.R. Smith arriving armed with a historic $3 million contract, Zhejiang of the Chinese Basketball League had come to regret signing the clown prince of basketball. From unreasonable demands on the kind of car needed to curry him around the city, to skipping practices for shopping excursions in neighboring cities, to a relentless pattern of insubordination, Smith's bad act had never been worse.

Perhaps his greatest excess of idiocy had been a weekend of running a room service bill into the proximity of $3,000, a source with direct knowledge told Yahoo Sports. He kept ordering food, stacking piles of trays upon trays

[Jakeh008]

Spoken like someone who doesn't follow the Knicks, Isola is one of the harshest beat writers in the country. Dude calls it as he sees it.

The thing I don't like here is this thought that JR is somehow the NBA's lone knucklehead. There are players that aren't in jail only by the grace of god but JR is untying shoes and he's the ultimate evil. Seems a small stretch to me.


Its not like JR ever killed someone... Oh wait...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4298594

[IGOTGAME]

JR Smith is soft and a crybaby. Tough is the last word that someone should use to describe him. He did spend a couple years playing ball as a transfer at Lakewood High School but he was soft there too(picked on and beat up despite his size). Before that he lived in affluent Milstone NJ. Guy is as well off as you can get and was a punk in high schoool. Thank god someone is bringing this to life because watching him act stupid all over TV is a joke. Funny how everyone just falls for it to.

the rest of the article is OD. Leave is daughter and dead friend out it. These aren't subjects that imo are up for discussion.

[Teanett]

and remember this?
http://jocksandstilettojill.com/2012/01/jr-smiths-sister-stephanie-and-girlfriend-britanie-have-another-fight-with-fans-in-china-photos/

:facepalm

[Teanett]

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/JR-Smith-Tahiry-4.jpg

[niko]

Shawne Williams threw a girl down a staircase. Z-Bo (who i like) was being investigated last year (for the second time) for funding a drug operation. Blatche didn't get charges for sexual assault because (per the cops) the victim wasn't coherent enough to express what happened. Want to go player by player old Blazer or Pacer teams? Stephen Jackson? Want to go even older? Knick fans used to love Mason. Great guy.

JR's a dick, if it makes you all feel better to say the Knicks have the only dick in the league then go ahead. Don't explain to me that JR is an asshole, I am aware. I had no issue with him not playing, I thought that was great. It feels though that everyone just woke up and is shocked that the NBA could contain a person like this. OMG, an NBA player that's a bad guy? How could that happen?

[JohnFreeman]

J.R Smith really doesn't deserve to be in the NBA.

[Andrew Wiggins]

Shawne Williams threw a girl down a staircase. Z-Bo (who i like) was being investigated last year (for the second time) for funding a drug operation. Blatche didn't get charges for sexual assault because (per the cops) the victim wasn't coherent enough to express what happened. Want to go player by player old Blazer or Pacer teams? Stephen Jackson? Want to go even older? Knick fans used to love Mason. Great guy.

JR's a dick, if it makes you all feel better to say the Knicks have the only dick in the league then go ahead. Don't explain to me that JR is an asshole, I am aware. I had no issue with him not playing, I thought that was great. It feels though that everyone just woke up and is shocked that the NBA could contain a person like this. OMG, an NBA player that's a bad guy? How could that happen?
and jr smith killed a guy, so yeah, that's a lot worse

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Shawne Williams threw a girl down a staircase. Z-Bo (who i like) was being investigated last year (for the second time) for funding a drug operation. Blatche didn't get charges for sexual assault because (per the cops) the victim wasn't coherent enough to express what happened. Want to go player by player old Blazer or Pacer teams? Stephen Jackson? Want to go even older? Knick fans used to love Mason. Great guy.

JR's a dick, if it makes you all feel better to say the Knicks have the only dick in the league then go ahead. Don't explain to me that JR is an asshole, I am aware. I had no issue with him not playing, I thought that was great. It feels though that everyone just woke up and is shocked that the NBA could contain a person like this. OMG, an NBA player that's a bad guy? How could that happen?

Yeah, and then he's stupid on top of that. JR plays in a huge market, won an award last year, just got paid, and you're surprised people are more bothered about it? Basically everyone knew he was a dick before..

[Blue&Orange]

As a Knick fan i'm grateful for all the trade rumors, the fines and the bashing articles. Jr was great last year, maybe the fear of leaving NY bring him the focus he is lacking this year.

[Real Men Wear Green]

A few months ago I said Smith was the new Ricky Davis. Actually, that was wrong. Davis got into less trouble with his teams as he got older while Smith seems to be getting worse. Also, I forgot about the reckless driving killing on Smith's resume. Smith isn't evil but it seems like he doesn't see how some of the dumb things he does can hurt. The reckless driving killing is the ultimate example of that. A reckless driver doesn't have any intent to commit murder. They just want to drive fast, don't see anyone coming as they approach the stop sign, figure no one is behind them while they're backing up, etc. Smith is just dumb, so dumb that it makes him dangerous. Oh well.

[Go Getter]

and remember this?
http://jocksandstilettojill.com/2012/01/jr-smiths-sister-stephanie-and-girlfriend-britanie-have-another-fight-with-fans-in-china-photos/

:facepalm

How does his sister and gf getting into a scuffle have anything to do with him?:facepalm

[Go Getter]

A few things:

1. JR Smith would be or will be gone as soon as his skills aren't enough to compensate for his short comings.

2. People act like the NBA isn't a job. Asshole or not he worked hard enough to be an NBA player and that's pretty much it. Athletes across the board do stupid shit like this.

3. I love the part of the article that expressed his upbringing. Non-black suburban kids are always fooled by images when it comes to black people....quick to call a guy like JR Smith a goon or a thug when in reality they are only spoiled kids who haven't grown up yet--they just have tatts, smoke weed, and behave badly.....still doesn't make them g's and most of them are sofT.

4. The article was tough but fair imho.

[2LeTTeRS]

Smith's always loved to play the part of a tough city kid, but truth be told, he's a soft, spoiled suburban jump shooter.

The belief that a person must come up dirt poor and struggling to be "tough" is the biggest misconception out there. Not sure why people keep repeating this.

[Go Getter]

The belief that a person must come up dirt poor and struggling to be "tough" is the biggest misconception out there. Not sure why people keep repeating this.


It has never been a misconception here, on a board full of white people [more so in the ghetto]. In actuality there is a running joke here about "street hunger."

All-in-all I think people who struggled growing up are mentally tougher and less whiny but in the realm of athletics and most things in life your genetic makeup and mental toughness has nothing to do with your location.

I remember when I first got to college and I had a friend from Chicago that acted really tough until a crazy/dumb/insanely fit white guy from the [a Big 12] wrestling team put his fallacies into perspective.

[Teanett]

How does his sister and gf getting into a scuffle have anything to do with him?:facepalm

it explains a lot.

[Nick Young]

Why do the Knicks always sign idiots to massive contracts, turn on them, and then kick them out? The owner surely should have learned by now what happens. Just last year this guy was a god to Knicks fans, now he has become their biggest enemy.


ALSO why cant they get a good coach in New York?
Stan Van Gundy? Jeff Van Gundy? Doug Collins? Paul Westphal? Lionel Hollins? Larry Brown? Jerry Sloane?

Why do they let that idiot Woodson run the team? Don't they want a chance at winning in the playoffs?

[STATUTORY]

Why do the Knicks always sign idiots to massive contracts, turn on them, and then kick them out? The owner surely should have learned by now what happens. Just last year this guy was a god to Knicks fans, now he has become their biggest enemy.


ALSO why cant they get a good coach in New York?
Stan Van Gundy? Jeff Van Gundy? Doug Collins? Paul Westphal? Lionel Hollins? Larry Brown? Jerry Sloane?

Why do they let that idiot Woodson run the team? Don't they want a chance at winning in the playoffs?

I have no doubt in some sense dolan identifies or even covets smiths persoba.

They are actually striking similar. Both "juniors" who are born to good circumstances and families yet dont take advantage and instaed act like punks

[tmacattack33]

I just read this article and the whole time i was like dayyyyyyum.

He even wrote about a personal interview he had with JR a few years ago.

Ether.

[tmacattack33]

A few things:

1. JR Smith would be or will be gone as soon as his skills aren't enough to compensate for his short comings.

2. People act like the NBA isn't a job. Asshole or not he worked hard enough to be an NBA player and that's pretty much it. Athletes across the board do stupid shit like this.

3. I love the part of the article that expressed his upbringing. Non-black suburban kids are always fooled by images when it comes to black people....quick to call a guy like JR Smith a goon or a thug when in reality they are only spoiled kids who haven't grown up yet--they just have tatts, smoke weed, and behave badly.....still doesn't make them g's and most of them are sofT.[/B]

4. The article was tough but fair imho.

That was Wojnowski's point though. He said JR is a suburban kid who tries to make it look like he is from the inner city.

And I think he's correct. JR has all these tattoos and speaks with the city slang because he wants to be seen as a g.

[fpliii]

Why do the Knicks always sign idiots to massive contracts, turn on them, and then kick them out? The owner surely should have learned by now what happens. Just last year this guy was a god to Knicks fans, now he has become their biggest enemy.


ALSO why cant they get a good coach in New York?
Stan Van Gundy? Jeff Van Gundy? Doug Collins? Paul Westphal? Lionel Hollins? Larry Brown? Jerry Sloane?

Why do they let that idiot Woodson run the team? Don't they want a chance at winning in the playoffs?

I don't know that either left NY on the best of terms after his first stint.

[Go Getter]

it explains a lot.
You are wrong. Tons of people with common sense have people in their lives with none at all. Andy Reid and his sons come to mind.

[Go Getter]

That was Wojnowski's point though. He said JR is a suburban kid who tries to make it look like he is from the inner city.

And I think he's correct. JR has all these tattoos and speaks with the city slang because he wants to be seen as a g.


I was affirming his sentiments.

[hawkfan]

The biggest problem this year with trading him is that so many teams are tanking and won't want to take on his contract.

Otherwise, the Celtics could trade Wallace for Smith, then waive Smith immediately which would still save the Celtics 4 million in cap space the next 2 seasons.

[Go Getter]

The biggest problem this year with trading him is that so many teams are tanking and won't want to take on his contract.

Otherwise, the Celtics could trade Wallace for Smith, then waive Smith immediately which would still save the Celtics 4 million in cap space the next 2 seasons.
That and people are just waiting for him to mess up or wear out his welcome so they can get him for cheap.

[jzek]

Knicks love knuckleheaded players though. :confusedshrug:

[Teanett]

You are wrong. Tons of people with common sense have people in their lives with none at all. Andy Reid and his sons come to mind.

tons of dumbasses come have dumbass parents, dumbass siblings and date dumbasses. jr smith comes to mind.

[longtime lurker]

A few months ago I said Smith was the new Ricky Davis. Actually, that was wrong. Davis got into less trouble with his teams as he got older while Smith seems to be getting worse. Also, I forgot about the reckless driving killing on Smith's resume. Smith isn't evil but it seems like he doesn't see how some of the dumb things he does can hurt. The reckless driving killing is the ultimate example of that. A reckless driver doesn't have any intent to commit murder. They just want to drive fast, don't see anyone coming as they approach the stop sign, figure no one is behind them while they're backing up, etc. Smith is just dumb, so dumb that it makes him dangerous. Oh well.

Off the court I don't remember Ricky Davis getting into trouble, but he was just a bone head on the court. The triple double debacle pretty much signified his whole career.

Jr Smith on the other hand is the perfect example of someone getting caught up in trying to lead a certain lifestyle.

[IGOTGAME]

The belief that a person must come up dirt poor and struggling to be "tough" is the biggest misconception out there. Not sure why people keep repeating this.

in this case, it just happens to ring true. JR is extremely soft and was sheltered as a child.

[hawkfan]

Woj just wanted to flame up the tension in New York, and the best way to do that is go after JR Smith. Who has literally no defenders.

Easy target.

[moe94]

it explains a lot.

What? :biggums:

[TylerOO]

He grew up two towns over from me. He's a punk

[ProfessorMurder]

Wojo's article really paints this like it's isolated.

No it doesn't. He literally lists infractions and stupid moves JR has done over the years.

Ever heard of 'the straw that broke the camel's back'? Clearly Woj believed JR was genuine and had a relationship with him, but one too many f*ck ups caused this article.

There is no reason to defend JR and anyone with a brain knows there are other shitty people in the league. Just because this wasn't an all inclusive article doesn't mean anything.

[moe94]

I bet JR would beat the living shit out of all of you questioning his toughness.

[gigantes]

Spoken like someone who doesn't follow the Knicks, Isola is one of the harshest beat writers in the country. Dude calls it as he sees it.

The thing I don't like here is this thought that JR is somehow the NBA's lone knucklehead. There are players that aren't in jail only by the grace of god but JR is untying shoes and he's the ultimate evil. Seems a small stretch to me.
this is the second straight woj article i've seen in which the dude sounds like he wants to be judge, jury and executioner, all. like woj is some f--king moral authority and wants to tear someone apart in order to send lessons to society.


hey, woj-- you're a godamned sports writer. pretty much the bottom of the totem pole. just cover the sports, please, because i don't give a shit about your personal points. (and i am certainly no JR smith fan)

[gigantes]

A lot of this board believes Bruce Lee can beat up Shaq. ...
bruce would probably not have a hard time beating up shaq. it would simply take a while.

what's the worst thing shaq could do to bruce...? start rapping at him?

[moe94]

bruce would probably not have a hard time beating up shaq. it would simply take a while.

what's the worst thing shaq could do to bruce...? start rapping at him?

You think Bruce Lee is an actual deity.

Why the hell did our posts get deleted?

[gigantes]

You think Bruce Lee is an actual deity.

Why the hell did our posts get deleted?
would you like me to say "yes" so that there's no chance of you learning something about fighting?

and i have no idea.

[STATUTORY]

I bet JR would beat the living shit out of all of you questioning his toughness.

:rolleyes: missing the point

[ballup]

The article is more about personal frustration with JR's maturity. Woj probably connected with JR at one point and now feels betrayed about how JR is still being a knucklehead.

[Go Getter]

tons of dumbasses come have dumbass parents, dumbass siblings and date dumbasses. jr smith comes to mind.


JR Smith's parents, according to the article, are hard working suburban people who granted their son everything a kid needed....safe home, education, etc....

[moe94]

:rolleyes: missing the point

There is zero point. People talking about athletes being soft and hard while readily admitting they'd get tossed around like ragdolls is pathetic. That's my opinion on this matter. If you are uncomfortable with the idea of JR stepping to you, don't go on internet message boards about how soft he is. :confusedshrug:

[Mr Exlax]

JR Smith has never tried to act like a tough guy though. Not to my knowledge.

[Andrew Wiggins]

i don't think jr cares as long as he gets to collect paychecks

from last night apparently

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19c4wcma5zceppng/ku-xlarge.png

[Andrew Wiggins]

this is the second straight woj article i've seen in which the dude sounds like he wants to be judge, jury and executioner, all. like woj is some f--king moral authority and wants to tear someone apart in order to send lessons to society.


hey, woj-- you're a godamned sports writer. pretty much the bottom of the totem pole. just cover the sports, please, because i don't give a shit about your personal points. (and i am certainly no JR smith fan)

he's a writer and he's free to express his opinion of smith the way you're expressing your opinion of woj. the difference is that he has a national platform to do it and far more people actually care about his opinion on smith than yours about woj.

[gigantes]

he's a writer and he's free to express his opinion of smith the way you're expressing your opinion of woj. the difference is that he has a national platform to do it and far more people actually care about his opinion on smith than yours about woj.
i would be astounded if the situation was otherwise, sir.

[moe94]

i would be astounded if the situation was otherwise, sir.

:oldlol:

[niko]

No it doesn't. He literally lists infractions and stupid moves JR has done over the years.

Ever heard of 'the straw that broke the camel's back'? Clearly Woj believed JR was genuine and had a relationship with him, but one too many f*ck ups caused this article.

There is no reason to defend JR and anyone with a brain knows there are other shitty people in the league. Just because this wasn't an all inclusive article doesn't mean anything.
I'm not defending him, I'm criticizing Wojo for selectively deciding that JR is his pet project to bash. This sounds like JR should be cut from the league or something, i don't recall him having this venom for other players who have messed up over time.

[Teanett]

I'm not defending him, I'm criticizing Wojo for selectively deciding that JR is his pet project to bash. This sounds like JR should be cut from the league or something, i don't recall him having this venom for other players who have messed up over time.

so who messed up like jr over the past 8 years???
he is unprofessional and hardly deserves his job.
you're blinded by knick love. just like when you said felton was an average defender.

[Teanett]

JR Smith's parents, according to the article, are hard working suburban people who granted their son everything a kid needed....safe home, education, etc....

doesnt mean they aint dumbasses... :confusedshrug:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLuBA66xc0c

[Legends66NBA7]

He probably should be cut from the league, along with other repeated offenders.

Give em the Michael Ray Richardson treatment.


I bet JR would beat the living shit out of all of you questioning his toughness.

He's not just going to step to anybody. He'll pick on people smaller than him.

[Go Getter]

doesnt mean they aint dumbasses... :confusedshrug:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLuBA66xc0c
:biggums:

It doesn't mean they are either but I get your m.o.

:rolleyes:

[Go Getter]

so who messed up like jr over the past 8 years???
he is unprofessional and hardly deserves his job.
you're blinded by knick love. just like when you said felton was an average defender.


I think his bosses are the ones to judge whether he "deserves" his job, smh...

[niko]

so who messed up like jr over the past 8 years???
he is unprofessional and hardly deserves his job.
you're blinded by knick love. just like when you said felton was an average defender.

I stand by what i said, there are players who have multiple problems with police. The difference is the are playing well and JR is not or they are just not sexy topics.

People keep telling me how terrible JR is, i know that. He's not the only one though. Wojo's article makes a bad apple getting a contract and continuing to be a bad apple this once in a generation thing. Please....

[hawkfan]

The Knicks don't really want to do anything because they had him not dress, instead of just sending him home to think.

[hawkfan]

Knick fans would you do this trade:

Hawks get

JR Smith

Knicks get

Louis Williams

Character-wise for the Knicks, this is a massive upgrade.

[niko]

Knick fans would you do this trade:

Hawks get

JR Smith

Knicks get

Louis Williams

Character-wise for the Knicks, this is a massive upgrade.
Is Lou Williams healthy enough to play at some point?

[DirkNowitzki41]

What a pointless article. He sounds bitter as ****

I mean, he is right, but why write this article?

[brantonli]

What a pointless article. He sounds bitter as ****

I mean, he is right, but why write this article?


Because it's his job?


It's important to read Woj's pieces as editorials/commentary, not as the NBA writeups you usually see. While I used to think it was kind of annoying, it's also interesting to see an opinoin based on the players personality, like Woj wrote an article on Kobe's determination a few months ago, now he's got a piece on JR's immaturity. It's very different from Grantland's stuff (which I love as well).

[hawkfan]

Is Lou Williams healthy enough to play at some point?

He's playing now.
He started the season playing every other game to protect his knee. He typically doesn't play back to backs, but he is getting consecutive games in now.
He's still a very good player, and a very high character guy.

The Hawks may not be the greatest team in the league, but I'm not ashamed of the guys of my team, unlike a lot of other teams.

[STATUTORY]

I'm not defending him, I'm criticizing Wojo for selectively deciding that JR is his pet project to bash. This sounds like JR should be cut from the league or something, i don't recall him having this venom for other players who have messed up over time.

is there a player with a history of messing up and is actively acting a fool on as big a stage as JR is right now?

His targeting of JR is not arbitrary or discriminatory, it's entirely justified.

Woj conducted that private interview with JR 3 years ago, if he had such personal vendetta against JR wouldn't he have used that material already in some hit piece? but circumstances didn't really warrant it till now.

no one is saying JR is the only knucklehead ever in the league but at the very present moment, can't think of anyone who is as brazenly dumb as he is

[longtime lurker]

JR Smith's parents, according to the article, are hard working suburban people who granted their son everything a kid needed....safe home, education, etc....

Sounds like your typical spoiled rich kid.

[red1]

JR is a certified dumbass

[Go Getter]

Sounds like your typical spoiled rich kid.

Exactly my point. Taking advantage of his parent's money and using it to go down to the lowest common denominator instead of rising above that bullshit.


What kills me about my people is some kids lie about having good parents that had common sense and money and pretend they are from the ghetto when most ghetto kids would love to have that type of stability.

[IGOTGAME]

Because it's his job?


It's important to read Woj's pieces as editorials/commentary, not as the NBA writeups you usually see. While I used to think it was kind of annoying, it's also interesting to see an opinoin based on the players personality, like Woj wrote an article on Kobe's determination a few months ago, now he's got a piece on JR's immaturity. It's very different from Grantland's stuff (which I love as well).

I have no respect for this guy and his hatchet jobs.

[moe94]

when most ghetto kids would love to have that type of stability.


I lived in the projects and low income housing most of my life. As much as I'd love to believe what you're saying, it's not true from my experiences. They love and flaunt this lifestyle. Being remotely well spoken or trying to achieve anything is a sign of "weakness". Most treat their mothers like complete trash.

[niko]

is there a player with a history of messing up and is actively acting a fool on as big a stage as JR is right now?

His targeting of JR is not arbitrary or discriminatory, it's entirely justified.

Woj conducted that private interview with JR 3 years ago, if he had such personal vendetta against JR wouldn't he have used that material already in some hit piece? but circumstances didn't really warrant it till now.

no one is saying JR is the only knucklehead ever in the league but at the very present moment, can't think of anyone who is as brazenly dumb as he is
He literally says something like "the Knicks and JR deserve each other". It's kind of implied this is a strange situation. it is, right now and mostly because it's so public. But prior to his extension, Z-Bo was being investigated for funding a drug ring. You know his history. Blatche will get a big extension next year and his "good behavior" includes escaping a sexual assault charge because the woman was too ****ed up to give a statement. We've had whole teams with people threatening to kill each other (Blazers), teams with guys shooting guns in the air and getting arrested, Shawne Williams threw a woman down a stairs. Give me ten minutes and I can do "The Last 30 Years of Knicks signing dumbasses", my new novel.

If you can play, you will get signed. By anyone. The Spurs keep bringing back Stephen Jackson. You could write books on him.

JR is a dumbass and if he lost his NBA career tomorrow it would be deserving, but Wojo wrote that piece to single him out in a way that's kind of dishonest. The main problem with JR is he is shooting a low pct. If he was hitting 40% on those threes, damn he'd be a funny guy for a lot of people.

JR got in trouble this week for being dumb, not for being a horrible human being. Unless I missed what really happened? Wasn't he untieing shoes? Again, i'm not defending JR, I just think that column and the coverage is getting to be a bit over the top. He didn't get convicted of a crime here. (I know his history, but that's not what happened now.)

[ZenMaster]

He literally says something like "the Knicks and JR deserve each other". It's kind of implied this is a strange situation. it is, right now and mostly because it's so public. But prior to his extension, Z-Bo was being investigated for funding a drug ring. You know his history. Blatche will get a big extension next year and his "good behavior" includes escaping a sexual assault charge because the woman was too ****ed up to give a statement. We've had whole teams with people threatening to kill each other (Blazers), teams with guys shooting guns in the air and getting arrested, Shawne Williams threw a woman down a stairs. Give me ten minutes and I can do "The Last 30 Years of Knicks signing dumbasses", my new novel.

If you can play, you will get signed. By anyone. The Spurs keep bringing back Stephen Jackson. You could write books on him.

JR is a dumbass and if he lost his NBA career tomorrow it would be deserving, but Wojo wrote that piece to single him out in a way that's kind of dishonest. The main problem with JR is he is shooting a low pct. If he was hitting 40% on those threes, damn he'd be a funny guy for a lot of people.

JR got in trouble this week for being dumb, not for being a horrible human being. Unless I missed what really happened? Wasn't he untieing shoes? Again, i'm not defending JR, I just think that column and the coverage is getting to be a bit over the top. He didn't get convicted of a crime here. (I know his history, but that's not what happened now.)

So what you're saying is that Woj should have written an article about Smith, Randolph, Jackson, Blatche and a 10 year old Blazer roster at the same time in order for it "not to be unfair" to JR Smith?

[gigantes]

So what you're saying is that Woj should have written an article about Smith, Randolph, Jackson, Blatche and a 10 year old Blazer roster at the same time in order for it "not to be unfair" to JR Smith?
he merely had to ease off the throttle a bit.

woj sounded like an outraged school board member or something.

[Go Getter]

I lived in the projects and low income housing most of my life. As much as I'd love to believe what you're saying, it's not true from my experiences. They love and flaunt this lifestyle. Being remotely well spoken or trying to achieve anything is a sign of "weakness". Most treat their mothers like complete trash.


The projects where?

If you grew up with them "they" would include "you."

I worked with some of the worst kids in Chicago and in Utah [professionally and personally] and every last one of them [that came from bad situations] would love to have a stable family even though they wouldn't admit it...no matter what you say

[STATUTORY]

The projects where?

If you grew up with them "they" would include "you."

I worked with some of the worst kids in Chicago and in Utah [professionally and personally] ad every last one of them would love to have a stable family even though they wouldn't admit it...no matter what you say

those kids playing you like a fiddle bro

[Andrew Wiggins]

he merely had to ease off the throttle a bit.

woj sounded like an outraged school board member or something.

lol, that's how these pieces are typically written

why pull punches if you're going to write a critical piece?

[gigantes]

lol, that's how these pieces are typically written

why pull punches if you're going to write a critical piece?
bullshit.

i read plenty of athlete critiques, and they're rarely that preachy and personal.

[Andrew Wiggins]

bullshit.

i read plenty of athlete critiques, and they're rarely that preachy and personal.

where exactly is he "preachy"?

[Go Getter]

those kids playing you like a fiddle bro


It's not about him it's about letting these stupid ideologies go unchecked.

[gts]

I have no problem with Wojo wrote. Sure beats some fluff piece that skirts the issues because he's afraid the Knicks will never let him in the locker room again. That's the way sports writers use to write...

[TheReturn]

Can't believe there's actually some Knicks fans in this thread defending this moron. Good article by Woj and JR deserves it.

[niko]

So what you're saying is that Woj should have written an article about Smith, Randolph, Jackson, Blatche and a 10 year old Blazer roster at the same time in order for it "not to be unfair" to JR Smith?
No, I'm saying he made the situation sound unique to the Knicks and JR Smith, which is patently untrue. If he didn't do so then bash away, but he did. He's zero'd in on JR. Someone else on this thread say that's the way reporters should be, yes - about everyone. Not about one specific person who irks them.

The only reason i gave examples is people keep insisting this is a unique situation and it's not.

[niko]

Can't believe there's actually some Knicks fans in this thread defending this moron. Good article by Woj and JR deserves it.
No one is defending JR. If people don't want to read what is written in the thread then they shouldn't criticize.

[Mr. Incredible]

My thread got overtaken by OP's. :hammerhead:

[no pun intended]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19c4wcma5zceppng/ku-xlarge.png

yup he gives zero fvcks

[LT Ice Cream]

Only thing I thought was weird was that he attributed JR's asshole behavior to "wanting to be hood". Assholes are assholes. Dont matter where you're from.

[Dro]

Can't believe there's actually some Knicks fans in this thread defending this moron. Good article by Woj and JR deserves it.
:applause:

[JohnFreeman]

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yup he gives zero fvcks

He won't be joking around when he is out the league and poor.

[G-train]

, Shawne Williams threw a woman down a stairs.

You should stop saying this as it's false.

[niko]

You should stop saying this as it's false.
It's not fake, his baby mama decided not to press charges. That's not fake, that's a girlfriend covering up in a domestic incident. If it was fake someone should have told the Pacers because he got released pretty soon after.

Shawne Williams has a huge list of incidents btw. He was such a good player with the Knicks, and he left and a few years later he's half the player. It's not age clearly, it's not injury, he just has no focus.

[CelticBaller]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19c4wcma5zceppng/ku-xlarge.png

yup he gives zero fvcks
Another fine? :oldlol:

[Grey Dawn]

I've always been telling you all here how JR is a prep-school pansy playing make believe

[Grey Dawn]

The belief that a person must come up dirt poor and struggling to be "tough" is the biggest misconception out there. Not sure why people keep repeating this.

Yep, gotta love those suburban prep-school thugs :oldlol:

[Grey Dawn]

JR Smith has never tried to act like a tough guy though. Not to my knowledge.

Except that his whole career he's acted desperately like a hardcore gangbanger.

[wang4three]

JR Smith grew up in the town next to mine in Jersey. It's a rather affluent place and my cousin was in elementary school with him. I always wondered why he acts like a hoodlum. Literally the worst thing that could happen in central suburban Jersey is if GameStop was out of stock of the latest GTA.

[IGOTGAME]

JR Smith grew up in the town next to mine in Jersey. It's a rather affluent place and my cousin was in elementary school with him. I always wondered why he acts like a hoodlum. Literally the worst thing that could happen in central suburban Jersey is if GameStop was out of stock of the latest GTA.
Yup Millstone is pretty affulent. He did transfer to Lakewood, far from affulent, for two years to play for there coach. JR's issue was that he had an overbearing father that was working him harder than some NBA players in high school. Guy wasn't allowed to have any social life and lived and breathed bball until left his father for Prep.

[STATUTORY]

Yup Millstone is pretty affulent. He did transfer to Lakewood, far from affulent, for two years to play for there coach. JR's issue was that he had an overbearing father that was working him harder than some NBA players in high school. Guy wasn't allowed to have any social life and lived and breathed bball until left his father for Prep.

seem like a typical story of a sheltered kid with strict parents who goes wild once at college with no adult supervision

[niko]

Anyone who tries to make sure you know they are street usually is not. Because being poor and growing up in a shitty place isn't fun and not something you brag about. I remember the rapper Game, the first time I heard about him was in an interview where the DJ said he walks around with a backpack and his notebooks of poems and was the nicest down to earth guy, just wants to write and try to create music. Then he breaks and he's talking about the dope spot and people killing each other and stupid shit.

[Dro]

Anyone who tries to make sure you know they are street usually is not. Because being poor and growing up in a shitty place isn't fun and not something you brag about. I remember the rapper Game, the first time I heard about him was in an interview where the DJ said he walks around with a backpack and his notebooks of poems and was the nicest down to earth guy, just wants to write and try to create music. Then he breaks and he's talking about the dope spot and people killing each other and stupid shit.
Thats not all GAME talks about...I've been listening to him since he was first dropping those mixtapes...Thats part of the game, its just entertainment...

[gts]

Anyone who tries to make sure you know they are street usually is not. Because being poor and growing up in a shitty place isn't fun and not something you brag about. I remember the rapper Game, the first time I heard about him was in an interview where the DJ said he walks around with a backpack and his notebooks of poems and was the nicest down to earth guy, just wants to write and try to create music. Then he breaks and he's talking about the dope spot and people killing each other and stupid shit.

Niko once again pulling apples out of the orange crate

[Swaggin916]

All Jr Smith would have to say is that he is aware that he is not playing well and that he needs to step it up and the Knicks deserve better. Everybody would get off his back. If he has an image that he feels he needs to maintain though and that doesn't correlate with it... well then it won't happen.

Does he have a nagging injury or something? I wouldn't be surprised if he was just that spoiled but maybe there is more than meets the eye.

[Fresh Kid]

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yup he gives zero fvcks yup Im truly upset and disgusted at this kid right now, he knows better, ever since he dipped his stuff in tha ri ri sauce last spring and got suspended wrongly he became horrible and no longer tha 6th man of tha year that he once was:facepalm

[moe94]

Niko once again pulling apples out of the orange crate

Nice how you single him out when the entire thread is people doing this.

[Tmuston Beltics]

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[highwhey]

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/JR-Smith-Tahiry-4.jpg
:oldlol:

[niko]

Nice how you single him out when the entire thread is people doing this.
It's not my fault, people can't look at a situation except black and white. JR being a ****ing idiot and being justly punished doesn't mean any article about him is allowed to be as biased and single focused as it wants. It doesn't mean people aren't overreacting to what was a shoelace untie. But no, if you think that then it means JR is innocent. Please...

Malik Rose was on ESPN with Alan Hahn this morning. He said it was blown out of proportion, he's had the shoelace thing done to him a few times, and he played with some teammates who did far worse. He also said JR is becoming a big distraction and the Knicks might not be able to get him under control and thus it's a serious situation.

It's not either or.

[Teanett]

It's not my fault, people can't look at a situation except black and white. JR being a ****ing idiot and being justly punished doesn't mean any article about him is allowed to be as biased and single focused as it wants. It doesn't mean people aren't overreacting to what was a shoelace untie. But no, if you think that then it means JR is innocent. Please...

Malik Rose was on ESPN with Alan Hahn this morning. He said it was blown out of proportion, he's had the shoelace thing done to him a few times, and he played with some teammates who did far worse. He also said JR is becoming a big distraction and the Knicks might not be able to get him under control and thus it's a serious situation.

It's not either or.

but you're still a cvnt

:oldlol:

[gts]

Nice how you single him out when the entire thread is people doing this.
Oh look Niko had a bodyguard... how cute

[ispin69]

Branslowski = JR Smith of ISH

[Fresh Kid]

Branslowski = JR Smith of ISH
ispin69= chris smith of ISH:roll:

[ispin69]

ispin69= chris smith of ISH:roll:

You're owning yourself. Using all the crappy players on your team to try and make fun of people. :oldlol:

[Fresh Kid]

You're owning yourself. Using all the crappy players on your team to try and make fun of people. :oldlol:
chris smith didnt get cut??:biggums: what a dumbass:roll:

[moe94]

Oh look Niko had a bodyguard... how cute

What does that even mean? You randomly called him out just because you have a different stance. That's cute.

[gts]

Wow ban hammer is out today...lol

what happened this afternoon...