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Inferno
01-12-2014, 04:02 PM
Cousins (32.5 mpg) is putting up 23.5/11.5/3ast on on 49% FG / 55% TS and Davis (35 mpg) is putting up 19.6/10.3/3blk on 53% FG / 58% TS.

Who you got?

Black and White
01-12-2014, 04:03 PM
Personally I would take DeMarcus going forward, if he can sort out his attitude he has the potential to be the best big in the game, good post moves as well, something that another top centre lacks lol.

IncarceratedBob
01-12-2014, 04:04 PM
Cousins is clearly better

Inferno
01-12-2014, 04:05 PM
Cousins is clearly better

Cousins also gets 2 more turnovers per game (though higher USG%, so it makes sense) and is 3 years older :confusedshrug:

Brook(lyn)Lopez
01-12-2014, 04:06 PM
The 'Brow's' brain in Boogie Cuz's body.
Top 3 big man of our era.

D.J.
01-12-2014, 04:16 PM
DeMarcus easily if his attitude is in check. Too talented of a big man to pass up. Guys like him don't come around very often.

wakencdukest
01-12-2014, 04:17 PM
Davis. Better attitude, more athletic, better defense. Not a knock on Cousins, I like his game too.

Levity
01-12-2014, 05:15 PM
im a huge cousins fan boy. so obviously him

but imagine pairing those to together. easily the best front court in the league.

Draz
01-12-2014, 05:36 PM
I like them both. Let's be thankful their both in the league. It's hard to pick right now because the numbers don't truly represent the better player and the age different isn't that much of a difference yet.

Crafty
01-12-2014, 05:45 PM
Both

fiddy
01-12-2014, 05:53 PM
DMC

GOBB
01-12-2014, 05:54 PM
Tough...need more time to think on this. Like Cousins but I question his impact as a big. His teams dont win enough.

dzav323
01-12-2014, 05:55 PM
Davis with a coach that isn't a retard.

Maniak
01-12-2014, 05:58 PM
Why is everybody taking DMC in this thread? I'd rather have Davis. He's a defensive anchor that can contribute very well offensively. His range/handles are solid as well. I feel like he does more for a team.

Also, for what it's worth, Davis has a better attitude and proved he could win at the college level (not that DMC's elite 8 was bad, but not as good as winning it all).

Too many what-ifs attached to DMC. Stop listening to Bill & Jalen and start watching some games.

IncarceratedBob
01-12-2014, 06:00 PM
Why is everybody taking DMC in this thread? I'd rather have Davis. He's a defensive anchor that can contribute very well offensively. His range/handles are solid as well. I feel like he does more for a team.

Also, for what it's worth, Davis has a better attitude and proved he could win at the college level (not that DMC's elite 8 was bad, but not as good as winning it all).




Too many what-ifs attached to DMC. Stop listening to Bill & Jalen and start watching some games.

Its called an opinion.

navy
01-12-2014, 06:02 PM
Davis is still young, people need to stop overrating him too early.

Maniak
01-12-2014, 06:03 PM
Tough...need more time to think on this. Like Cousins but I question his impact as a big. His teams dont win enough.
I guess that comes down to how much blame you put on him and how much blame you put on the talent around him/ownership/coaching. Also would Davis do any better? (I don't necessarily have the answer, just hypothetical to contribute to this comparison).

As for impact, it's tough when a guy settles on offense, and I feel like DMC does that a bit too much. Catches it midrange and just puts it up with a lot of time left on the shot clock & little to no ball movement leading up to it. As a Suns fan makes me think of Gerald Green.

cos88
01-12-2014, 06:07 PM
imagine cousins surrounded by a HOF coach, veteran unselfish teammates and a great front office.

something like what duncan had at the beginning.

fpliii
01-12-2014, 06:08 PM
Davis. People need to stop underrating him. :facepalm

I like DMC though, I watch as much of his as possible. Still, this isn't close.

Genaro
01-12-2014, 06:12 PM
Davis. Better defender, better attitude and younger.

KyrieTheFuture
01-12-2014, 06:20 PM
I don't think you can call Davis a defensive anchor yet seeing as NO is one of the worst defenses in the league.

SHABBA
01-12-2014, 06:27 PM
Boogie. I'd love to see them together though.

dzav323
01-12-2014, 06:48 PM
I don't think you can call Davis a defensive anchor yet seeing as NO is one of the worst defenses in the league.
That is on Monty Williams. Brian Roberts does not deserve to even be on a NBA roster and the Pels don't have a decent center to take some pressure off AD. Also Eric Gordon looks disinterested out there.

bdreason
01-12-2014, 06:49 PM
Surprised how many people are taking Cousins.

Miller for 3
01-12-2014, 06:58 PM
Cousins, not close. Davis can't create his own shot, and plays little to no defense (watch him leave Dirk open in last Pels game, it was like open gym for him, and that is an occurrence in every game.). Cousins is a far superior offensive player, and slightly worse on D. AD looks like a good defender because he is long and appears athletic, until you realize opposing Cs put up a 21.8 PER against him and he does not close out on jump shooting bigs

Lebron23
01-12-2014, 07:01 PM
Cousins is a much better player this season.

notatop29pg
01-12-2014, 07:23 PM
Cousins, not close. Davis can't create his own shot, and plays little to no defense (watch him leave Dirk open in last Pels game, it was like open gym for him, and that is an occurrence in every game.). Cousins is a far superior offensive player, and slightly worse on D. AD looks like a good defender because he is long and appears athletic, until you realize opposing Cs put up a 21.8 PER against him and he does not close out on jump shooting bigs

Who are these opposing C's and which games? Davis has played centre maybe 4 times this season? He takes the tip and then guards power forwards. And has matched every single one of them.

Uriah_Hall
01-12-2014, 07:27 PM
Cousins (32.5 mpg) is putting up 23.5/11.5/3ast on on 49% FG / 55% TS and Davis (35 mpg) is putting up 19.6/10.3/3blk on 53% FG / 58% TS.

Who you got?

Dmac fo sho

dzav323
01-12-2014, 07:33 PM
Cousins, not close. Davis can't create his own shot, and plays little to no defense (watch him leave Dirk open in last Pels game, it was like open gym for him, and that is an occurrence in every game.). Cousins is a far superior offensive player, and slightly worse on D. AD looks like a good defender because he is long and appears athletic, until you realize opposing Cs put up a 21.8 PER against him and he does not close out on jump shooting bigs
Again, Monty Williams defensive scheme is to blame. Ask and Pelicans fan and they will tell you the same thing.

IGOTGAME
01-12-2014, 07:48 PM
Surprised how many people are taking Cousins.
Same here.

Xiao Yao You
01-12-2014, 07:57 PM
Unibrow

JohnFreeman
01-12-2014, 08:07 PM
Boogie. If you say Davis you haven't watch DMC play.

Bob Dole
01-12-2014, 08:35 PM
Anyone taking cousins over Davis is an idiot and knows nothing about basketball. 30 out of 30 gms would take Davis.

Boarder Patrol
01-12-2014, 08:38 PM
Davis. Higher ceiling, already higher defensive impact and pretty comparable on O.

Boogie is going hard this year though

JohnFreeman
01-12-2014, 08:38 PM
Anyone taking cousins over Davis is an idiot and knows nothing about basketball. 30 out of 30 gms would take Davis.

Enlighten us.

RighteousMax
01-12-2014, 08:40 PM
I choose Cousins. He have better potential than Davis and can be one of the best centers in the future of this game.

noob cake
01-12-2014, 08:41 PM
Anyone taking cousins over Davis is an idiot and knows nothing about basketball. 30 out of 30 gms would take Davis.

Even Michael Jordan wouldn't screw up the decision to take Davis over Boogie.

Jabari Parker
01-12-2014, 08:41 PM
Davis. His defensive potential is off the charts, and his offense is shockingly good at his age. 20-10 with 3 blocks a game is pretty ridiculous for a 20 year old. I think at their primes, the difference defensively between the two will be much bigger than their difference offensively. And Davis is about 3 years younger.

Embers
01-12-2014, 08:42 PM
Anyone who wouldnt prefer DeMarcus Cousins now is crazy

Anyone who wouldnt prefer Anthony Davis overall is crazy

IMO the big difference in the future from now is that Davis will demand and get 6 year 120 mill deal. Id probably prefer DeMarcus Cousins with his 4 year 60 deal overall. They have a bargain with him on that type of deal for mine

JohnFreeman
01-12-2014, 08:46 PM
Anyone who wouldnt prefer DeMarcus Cousins now is crazy

Anyone who wouldnt prefer Anthony Davis overall is crazy

IMO the big difference in 5 years from now is that Davis will demand and get 6 year 120 mill deal. Id probably prefer DeMarcus Cousins with his 4 year 60 deal overall. They have a bargain with him on that type of deal for mine

Cousins is a max contract player.

Embers
01-12-2014, 08:47 PM
Cousins is a max contract player.

Looks so. I thought he accepted a bit less then max for some reason

SugarHill
01-12-2014, 08:48 PM
You have to know nothing in order to choose Cousins. The near consensus on the first page is terrifying. I might not even post here if the user base is this dense.

Johnny Jones
01-12-2014, 08:48 PM
Again, Monty Williams defensive scheme is to blame. Ask and Pelicans fan and they will tell you the same thing.
Yep, our pick/roll defense is some of the worst I have ever seen at a professional level.

JohnFreeman
01-12-2014, 08:48 PM
You have to know nothing in order to choose Cousins. The near consensus on the first page is terrifying. I might not even post here if the user base is this dense.

Good, Leave.

Johnny Jones
01-12-2014, 08:49 PM
Cousins, not close. Davis can't create his own shot, and plays little to no defense (watch him leave Dirk open in last Pels game, it was like open gym for him, and that is an occurrence in every game.). Cousins is a far superior offensive player, and slightly worse on D. AD looks like a good defender because he is long and appears athletic, until you realize opposing Cs put up a 21.8 PER against him and he does not close out on jump shooting bigs
:roll: :roll:

Laughable. Are we going to forgot Davis shutting down LMA both times the Pels played the Blazers this year? Is LMA not a jump shooting big to you?

And opposing PFs put up a per of 9.7 against him. Nice cherry picking fgt. :coleman:

SugarHill
01-12-2014, 08:50 PM
Good, Leave.

You have his avy. I think your opinion is hardly worth anything on this topic.

Ratnik
01-12-2014, 08:51 PM
Boogie. The brow is seriously overrated.

dzav323
01-12-2014, 08:51 PM
Yep, our pick/roll defense is some of the worst I have ever seen at a professional level.
You lose an avatar bet??

SugarHill
01-12-2014, 08:52 PM
Boogie. The brow is seriously overrated.

It's the other way around. Boogie is overrated. Very much so.

MMM
01-12-2014, 08:52 PM
i like both players but i think Davis is easier to build around. I don't really see either guy as a clear cut franchise player and might need a 1a/1b situation and i think Davis is more likely to gel with that type of player rather than DMC.

JohnFreeman
01-12-2014, 08:52 PM
You have his avy. I think your opinion is hardly worth anything on this topic.

I can tell you are going to bring a great deal too these forums :rolleyes:

Bob Dole
01-12-2014, 08:52 PM
Anyone who wouldnt prefer DeMarcus Cousins now is crazy

Anyone who wouldnt prefer Anthony Davis overall is crazy

IMO the big difference in 5 years from now is that Davis will demand and get 6 year 120 mill deal. Id probably prefer DeMarcus Cousins with his 4 year 60 deal overall. They have a bargain with him on that type of deal for mine


No. even right now Davis is better. Please explain to me how a few more points a game equals a more efficient player who plays within the offense just as good a rebounder and much better defender.

Also the money talk is stupid. Just random numbers for Davis you're throwing out. If cousins can command that on the open market trust me he will want it.

Davis is on a Duncan/Garnett path. Cousins will never be the best player on a contender. He can be the second or third best with a better player who keeps him in check.

Johnny Jones
01-12-2014, 08:54 PM
Boogie. The brow is seriously overrated.
Yeah, because putting 20/10/3 at 20 years old is just awful, amirite?

SugarHill
01-12-2014, 08:54 PM
I can tell you are going to bring a great deal too these forums :rolleyes:

You're upset right now. It's okay. Your man was critiqued, after all. It's how women react. I understand that.

HOoopCityJones
01-12-2014, 08:54 PM
Boogie the man right now.

At best he could be the next Charles Barkley if he keeps on developing.

Maybe even win a ring if he gets outta SAC.

JimmyMcAdocious
01-12-2014, 08:54 PM
Unibrow. But people seem to forget what kind of specimen Cousins is, tho.

6-9.5, 6-10.75 in shoes, 7-5.75 wingspan, 9-5 reach
vs
6-9.25, 6-10.5 in shoes, 7-5.5 wingspan, 9-0 reach

Top is DMC from the DraftExpress measurements database. He also has noticeably larger hands. An inch and a half wider, quarter inch longer.

Davis is more athletic, but let's not act like he's not KG, nor is Cousins Bradley-athletic. Cousins has a bigger frame to work with and it's filled out. Obvious Davis will fill out more later, he's just never going to work with what Cousins has.

And Cousins' offensive game is way more advance than Davis'. Possibly more than Davis will ever become.

But Unibrow because he has a unibrow and I feel like Cousins is going to hold himself back from greatness.

SugarHill
01-12-2014, 08:55 PM
Explain how 20/13/3blks with great defense is somehow worse than 20/10 inefficient scorer?

You can't.

notatop29pg
01-12-2014, 08:55 PM
Its pretty tough for Davis in New Orleans, Monty has the poor kid running around on the perimeter chasing smalls while at the same time being expected to be a rim protector while at the same time being required to get back out to the 3pt line to guard todays jump shooting bigs.

The fact that he is STILL beating everyone down the floor on the break in the final minutes of a game is exceptional.

Combat Wombat
01-12-2014, 08:58 PM
You can't go wrong with either right now but I'd take Davis in the long run. The kid is already an elite defender and is putting up 20-10 nearly every night IN HIS SECOND YEAR. Cousins has improved tremendously and is easily an All-Star this year but does have a history.

Boarder Patrol
01-12-2014, 08:58 PM
Boogie. The brow is seriously overrated.

How could 20-10-3 blocks on 50% with elite defense be overrated for a player in his second season?

:biggums:

Johnny Jones
01-12-2014, 09:05 PM
How could 20-10-3 blocks on 50% with elite defense be overrated for a player in his second season?

:biggums:
People may think AD's defensive impact is overrated, but he has the lowest DRtg on the team and it really isn't close. Our defensive system is turrible.

WolfGang
01-12-2014, 09:12 PM
Davis all day. I like consistent, hard working players. Davis has a very good mid range jumper and is the second best shot blocker in the league. I think he is the only PF in the top five for blocks per game.

If we didn't have that fvck boy Williams as a coach then Davis would impact the game more. He hardly ever gets plays ran for him.

JohnFreeman
01-12-2014, 09:16 PM
Davis all day. I like consistent, hard working players. Davis has a very good mid range jumper and is the second best shot blocker in the league. I think he is the only PF in the top five for blocks per game.

If we didn't have that fvck boy Williams as a coach then Davis would impact the game more. He hardly ever gets plays ran for him.

Ibaka is 3rd I think. No competition there though.

Miller for 3
01-12-2014, 09:23 PM
:facepalm

So many alt accounts in this thread.

notatop29pg
01-12-2014, 09:23 PM
Davis all day. I like consistent, hard working players. Davis has a very good mid range jumper and is the second best shot blocker in the league. I think he is the only PF in the top five for blocks per game.

If we didn't have that fvck boy Williams as a coach then Davis would impact the game more. He hardly ever gets plays ran for him.

Isnt he leading the league?

KyrieTheFuture
01-12-2014, 09:44 PM
You're upset right now. It's okay. Your man was critiqued, after all. It's how women react. I understand that.
Congratulations on already being the worst poster from the Jan 2014 draft class. Learn to debate like an adult not a child.

JUDGE WITNESS
01-12-2014, 09:47 PM
demarcus cousins

JohnFreeman
01-12-2014, 10:25 PM
Congratulations on already being the worst poster from the Jan 2014 draft class. Learn to debate like an adult not a child.

Yeah I didn't even respond :cheers:

Go Getter
01-12-2014, 10:27 PM
That's tough...right now I'd take Cousins but long term I'd take AD.

Aidz
01-12-2014, 10:30 PM
I think DMC is the better player with the higher ceiling. DMC has an unbelievable package of size, strength, handles and agility. Shaq couldn't cross over a guy from the 3pt line, jump between 2 defenders and lay it in. DMC is a rare talent.

HOWEVER, if I'm choosing one player for the franchise I pick ADavis. Davis is an elite defender and mobile scorer. More importantly, DMC is gonna have slumps - major slumps. ADavis looks much more consistent. ADavis is basically Tim Duncan. DMC is better - but he could throw a tantrum that could cost you a championship. I'm going with Tim Duncan.

JohnFreeman
01-12-2014, 10:33 PM
I think DMC is the better player with the higher ceiling. DMC has an unbelievable package of size, strength, handles and agility. Shaq couldn't cross over a guy from the 3pt line, jump between 2 defenders and lay it in. DMC is a rare talent.

HOWEVER, if I'm choosing one player for the franchise I pick ADavis. Davis is an elite defender and mobile scorer. More importantly, DMC is gonna have slumps - major slumps. ADavis looks much more consistent. ADavis is basically Tim Duncan. DMC is better - but he could throw a tantrum that could cost you a championship. I'm going with Tim Duncan.

:no:

Good post though.

Ill Will
01-12-2014, 11:50 PM
have to pick boogie just cause of the numbers and because of his demeanor. call me crazy but i like his behavior in an era of soft players including the supposed "best center in the league" (who wont be named). i always lean towards thugs anyways, and with that vine that came out of the brow getting spanked naked and smiling makes it reaaal hard for me to like him.

SugarHill
01-12-2014, 11:52 PM
:no:

Good post though.

He has KG potential. He can be better than Duncan. Yes, I know what that implies.

avonbarksdale
01-12-2014, 11:53 PM
gimme boogie

Milbuck
01-12-2014, 11:55 PM
I'll take AD. He's like Sanders-lite

Cold soul
01-13-2014, 12:02 AM
DeMarcus Cousins is my pick, he has higher ceiling so munch damn potential. Cousins just needs to continue to grow and mature as a basketball player. For all his talents he lacks some maturity in games. Shaq there should most def improve his overall game over time. I like Cousins little more than AD.

Cali Syndicate
01-13-2014, 12:36 AM
Personally, I prefer AD.

orange_chicken
01-13-2014, 12:40 AM
Cousins a better shooter

El Gato Negro
01-13-2014, 12:41 AM
at this point in there careers ill take boogie, if i was building for the future or starting over id take ad.

andremiller07
01-13-2014, 12:46 AM
Hopefully they can develop a Tim Duncan vs. KG type rivalry

JohnFreeman
01-13-2014, 12:48 AM
Hopefully they can develop a Tim Duncan vs. KG type rivalry

Cousins being Duncan :pimp:

SugarHill
01-13-2014, 12:49 AM
Hopefully they can develop a Tim Duncan vs. KG type rivalry

There's a KG. There's no Duncan. :oldlol:

Scal
01-13-2014, 05:25 AM
I'd take Davis personally, just because he isn't a mental case. DMC has all the tools to be one of the most dominant players in the L, but he just never seems to put it together and his maturity is a big question.

IGOTGAME
01-24-2016, 11:05 PM
Has Davis fallen in some people's eyes?

WayOfWade
01-24-2016, 11:08 PM
Has Davis fallen in some people's eyes?
I'd say yes, I've read articles of most people calling him "overrated" and a lot of other stuff. I really don't know whether he's regressed or not, but the overall opinion of him has gone down I'd say

Lebron23
01-24-2016, 11:13 PM
Cousins has elevated his game into the next level. The best Big Man this year is Demarcus Cousins.

Im Still Ballin
01-24-2016, 11:30 PM
It's an interesting discussion

I like Demarcus because he has more offensive weapons

dhsilv
01-24-2016, 11:40 PM
Why is everybody taking DMC in this thread? I'd rather have Davis. He's a defensive anchor that can contribute very well offensively. His range/handles are solid as well. I feel like he does more for a team.

Also, for what it's worth, Davis has a better attitude and proved he could win at the college level (not that DMC's elite 8 was bad, but not as good as winning it all).

Too many what-ifs attached to DMC. Stop listening to Bill & Jalen and start watching some games.

BULLSHIT! The cats had ONE bad game and West Virgina had their best game of the year. It was a fluke! Nothing more nothing less!

dhsilv
01-24-2016, 11:47 PM
I'll open with as a UK fan the 08 season is the thing of ledgend, one of the best year's ever and I just can't express how much I love that team. Cousins is just a great wildcat and I love the hell out of the man! AD and that title was one of the best 3 nights of my life with those wins and being in lexington. I love these two guys and I'm biased as hell!

If we're talking this year, no doubt about cousins. He's just having a great year and he's finally reaching his peak. Now as for AD, he's got a horrid and I mean horrid team with a worse coach. As for long term, I'm sorry but AD has best player ever potential. He's not getting there...but the point is this guy is going to change the game big time! Both are going to be all time greats if they stay healthy and act mature enough.

JohnFreeman
01-24-2016, 11:48 PM
https://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr02/2013/4/2/5/anigif_enhanced-buzz-1289-1364895187-2.gif

Im Still Ballin
01-24-2016, 11:54 PM
Imagine a Cousins-Davis C/PF combo

https://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr02/2013/4/2/5/anigif_enhanced-buzz-1289-1364895187-2.gif