OK, I need to clear something up. Lebron vs Durant 2012 onwards.

[BlazerRed]

2012 onwards, 9 games, including playoff games, here are the stats.

Durant: 27/6.5/3
Lebron: 26/5.5/7.5

And because I know some idiots will bring it up, Durant 8.3 FTA, Lebron 7.1.

Yep, Lebron has outplayed Durant. We know that, the Heat have more wins.. but can we not have everyone acting like it's so one-sided between Lebron and Durant in these performances? Lebron clearly has the better team and he has been in his prime. Their stats are almost identical, besides the clear assist lead to Lebron.

Really wish Westbrook wasn't injured for their next dual. It would have been awesome otherwise. Sadly I think with the defensive weapons the Heat have the Thunder will get smashed without Westbrook, and Durant will havea little trouble without any other shot creates on his team to take some of the defensive pressure. If these two teams get to the finals and are healthy, it's going to be insanely good. No excuses for the loser, just glory and praise for the winner.

[KevinDurant35]

KD is gonna go off when they play the Heat. I expect him to score around 40 points in a winning effort. Especially without Westbrook. The Heat will overlook this game and lose.

[Rose'sACL]

2012 onwards, 9 games, including playoff games, here are the stats.

Durant: 27/6.5/3
Lebron: 26/5.5/7.5

And because I know some idiots will bring it up, Durant 8.3 FTA, Lebron 7.1.

Yep, Lebron has outplayed Durant. We know that, the Heat have more wins.. but can we not have everyone acting like it's so one-sided between Lebron and Durant in these performances? Lebron clearly has the better team and he has been in his prime.

Really wish Westbrook wasn't injured for their next dual. It would have been awesome otherwise. Sadly I think with the defensive weapons the Heat have the Thunder will get smashed without Westbrook, and Durant will get destroyed without any other shot creates on his team to take some of the defensive pressure. If these two teams get to the finals and are healthy, it's going to be insanely good. No excuses for the loser, just glory and praise for the winner.
can we not have all the idiots(you included) call out lebron for missing a shot or for passing to an open team mate?
these trolls who say kd has empty stats are direct result of trolls that have always wanted heat fans to not even celebrate if their team wins and yet shitposted so much when heat lost in 2011 in finals. not in first round, in finals.
perspective is a great thing. now you know why this board has heat trolls. this is after 2 back to back ships and heat haters still outnumber heat trolls.

just be thankful that knicks or chicago didn't win 2 rings in 2 years otherwise no other team fan would have been able to post any argument against best player on those teams.

[TheWeeknd]

KD is gonna go off when they play the Heat. I expect him to score around 40 points in a winning effort. Especially without Westbrook. The Heat will overlook this game and lose.
I'm expecting 40 on the losing end of a blow out.


Thunder have no chance without Westbrook

[TheWeeknd]

Btw Blazered if the blazers faced the thunder in the WCF you'd be rooting for the thunder wouldn't you?:roll:

[KendrickPerkins]

can we not have all the idiots(you included) call out lebron for missing a shot or for passing to an open team mate?
these trolls who say kd has empty stats are direct result of trolls that have always wanted heat fans to not even celebrate if their team wins and yet shitposted so much when heat lost in 2011 in finals. not in first round, in finals.
perspective is a great thing. now you know why this board has heat trolls. this is after 2 back to back ships and heat haters still outnumber heat trolls.

just be thankful that knicks or chicago didn't win 2 rings in 2 years otherwise no other team fan would have been able to post any argument against best player on those teams.
The hell did you just blabber out? Can somebody translate this for me?

[BlazerRed]

Btw Blazered if the blazers faced the thunder in the WCF you'd be rooting for the thunder wouldn't you?:roll:

Hell no but we're not sniffing the WCF until we improve on the defensive end. Glad you find yourself funny though.

[chazzy]

can we not have all the idiots(you included) call out lebron for missing a shot or for passing to an open team mate?
these trolls who say kd has empty stats are direct result of trolls that have always wanted heat fans to not even celebrate if their team wins and yet shitposted so much when heat lost in 2011 in finals. not in first round, in finals.
perspective is a great thing. now you know why this board has heat trolls. this is after 2 back to back ships and heat haters still outnumber heat trolls.

just be thankful that knicks or chicago didn't win 2 rings in 2 years otherwise no other team fan would have been able to post any argument against best player on those teams.
Are all of your posts off tangent rants?

[BlazerRed]

Are all of your posts off tangent rants?
I'm letting it go, I don't want this to turn into a troll fest.

I'm looking forward to their next dual, just wanted to clear some things up for those who seem to hear something said by someone and start repeating it everywhere without even knowing if it's true.

[Heavincent]

can we not have all the idiots(you included) call out lebron for missing a shot or for passing to an open team mate?
these trolls who say kd has empty stats are direct result of trolls that have always wanted heat fans to not even celebrate if their team wins and yet shitposted so much when heat lost in 2011 in finals. not in first round, in finals.
perspective is a great thing. now you know why this board has heat trolls. this is after 2 back to back ships and heat haters still outnumber heat trolls.

just be thankful that knicks or chicago didn't win 2 rings in 2 years otherwise no other team fan would have been able to post any argument against best player on those teams.

the **** are you talking about?

[Rose'sACL]

I'm letting it go, I don't want this to turn into a troll fest.

I'm looking forward to their next dual, just wanted to clear some things up for those who seem to hear something said by someone and start repeating it everywhere without even knowing if it's true.
i have posted more stats with my posts than pretty much any poster in this thread. most go by eye test only.

[BlazerRed]

i have posted more stats with my posts than pretty much any poster in this thread. most go by eye test only.
Most people see something posted by a trolling buffoon and repeat it in other threads thinking it's the truth. Then it just spirals out of control. Before coming to this thread you'd think Lebron had averaged 40 points against the Thunder and Durant had averaged 15.

[Joyner82reload]

Here are their last 10 matchups

Durant 31.6 ppg 6.5 rpg 3.5 apg 54.2 FG% 42.7 3P% 84.7 FT%
LeBron 28.1 ppg 8.9 rpg 7.3 apg 48.8 FG% 23.0 3P% 83.9 FT%

Miami 7-3 advantage in wins. Yep LeBron just sons Durant head to head :rolleyes:

[Eye Test]

imo durant is better but with worse team, shame the mvp has become a popularity contest

[Trollsmasher]

You are trying really hard for a Portland fan though:confusedshrug:

Stop boxscore watching, anybody watching these games knows Durant gets completly outplayed everytime and most of his points are garbage time, impactless points. It's a general consensus.

[joeysms55]

Since Durant entered NBA. He only won 2 games against Lebron (including playoffs).

Also don't forget. Lebron guards Durant while Durant guards Chalmers LOL

[Milbuck]

How would this place react if they both dropped the exact same stat line but OKC won by 1 point in double OT?

[Joyner82reload]

Since Durant entered NBA. He only won 2 games against Lebron (including playoffs).

Also don't forget. Lebron guards Durant while Durant guards Chalmers LOL

Uh...no. Battier guards Durant. And Durant is by far the tougher cover, just listen to Paul George

Following the Pacers

[Joyner82reload]

Since Durant entered NBA. He only won 2 games against Lebron (including playoffs).

Also don't forget. Lebron guards Durant while Durant guards Chalmers LOL

Has anyone also realized just how badly Durant outplays LeBron whenever the Thunder beat the Heat? He absolutely torches LeBron everytime they win. That is the definition of sonning.

[Trollsmasher]

[QUOTE=Joyner82reload]Uh...no. Battier guards Durant. And Durant is by far the tougher cover, just listen to Paul George

Following the Pacers

[Marlo_Stanfield]

2012 onwards, 9 games, including playoff games, here are the stats.

Durant: 27/6.5/3
Lebron: 26/5.5/7.5

And because I know some idiots will bring it up, Durant 8.3 FTA, Lebron 7.1.

Yep, Lebron has outplayed Durant. We know that, the Heat have more wins.. but can we not have everyone acting like it's so one-sided between Lebron and Durant in these performances? Lebron clearly has the better team and he has been in his prime. Their stats are almost identical, besides the clear assist lead to Lebron.

Really wish Westbrook wasn't injured for their next dual. It would have been awesome otherwise. Sadly I think with the defensive weapons the Heat have the Thunder will get smashed without Westbrook, and Durant will havea little trouble without any other shot creates on his team to take some of the defensive pressure. If these two teams get to the finals and are healthy, it's going to be insanely good. No excuses for the loser, just glory and praise for the winner.
LeBron not only had more efficent and better stats, he also had a bigger defensive impact and his presence alone made his teammates believe in the victory. There is no shame being second to only the GOAT

[J Shuttlesworth]

Hakeem put up 24, 14, and almost 5 blocks a game in the first year Jordan won his ring. Stats don't tell everything.

[Trollsmasher]

Hakeem put up 24, 14, and almost 5 blocks a game in the first year Jordan won his ring. Stats don't tell everything.
OP avoids context like a plague:lol

[TheWeeknd]

Has anyone also realized just how badly Durant outplays LeBron whenever the Thunder beat the Heat? He absolutely torches LeBron everytime they win. That is the definition of sonning.
he looked straight dominant in those 2 games.

thats an 18% record of dominance :roll:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

he looked straight dominant in those 2 games.

thats an 18% record of dominance :roll:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[BlazerRed]

OP avoids context like a plague:lol

I started a legitimate thread, the least you could do is try to stick to the topic rather than try start a troll fest. It's clear though that you can't have a non-biased talk about Durant. He makes you so upset that you have to have him under your name. He's under your skin.

[TheWeeknd]

http://i.imgur.com/hT5Hx.jpg

[FrobeShaw]

I started a legitimate thread, the least you could do is try to stick to the topic rather than try start a troll fest. It's clear though that you can't have a non-biased talk about Durant. He makes you so upset that you have to have him under your name. He's under your skin.

The irony of this post...:wtf:

[Joyner82reload]

Holy shit how dumb are the LeBron tots. Durant puts up better stats head to head, but his team goes 3-7 so he's getting trashed. I guess the only thing left for Durant to do is start winning against the Heat head to head with regularity, then they'll have no arguments left.

It's amazing how this is literally Kobe-LeBron circa 2008-09 all over again.

[Trollsmasher]

I started a legitimate thread, the least you could do is try to stick to the topic rather than try start a troll fest. It's clear though that you can't have a non-biased talk about Durant. He makes you so upset that you have to have him under your name. He's under your skin.
Stats thread of this kind, talking about somebody holding up against his opponent without any kind of context is hardly a legitimate thread:lol

Just go on, provide us with the context of the last game and how both players looked and put up their stats:hammerhead:

[Joyner82reload]

http://i.imgur.com/hT5Hx.jpg

I would much rather see a player crying after losing in the Finals than telling the world it doesn't matter because at the end of the day his life is better than their's.

[Genaro]

I hate when somebody posts pics this size.

[TheWeeknd]

I would much rather see a player crying after losing in the Finals than telling the world it doesn't matter because at the end of the day his life is better than their's.
in the end who really cares what you think tho?

[BlazerRed]

Stats thread of this kind, talking about somebody holding up against his opponent without any kind of context is hardly a legitimate thread:lol

OK if you say so pal. I said that Lebron was ahead, and that Miami have won more games. Not sure why you continue on or why Durant gets you so mad? :rolleyes:

[TheWeeknd]

OK if you say so pal. I said that Lebron was ahead, and that Miami have won more games. Not sure why you continue on or why Durant gets you so mad? :rolleyes:
durant has never bothered anyone. its the ****ing annoying posters like you ( a durant stan posing as a blazers fan) who keeps trying to discredit lebron and prop up durat.

[Joyner82reload]

durant has never bothered anyone. its the ****ing annoying posters like you ( a durant stan posing as a blazers fan) who keeps trying to discredit lebron and prop up durat.

Apparently boasting about Durant's stellar season, and how he has arguably had a better season than LeBron, is discrediting LeBron. :rolleyes:

Meanwhile you LeBron stans blatantly make shit up about how LeBron just punks Durant everytime they go head to head, yet in the last 10 Durant arguably has better stats.

[Joe Anderson]

I would much rather see a player crying after losing in the Finals than telling the world it doesn't matter because at the end of the day his life is better than their's.
Lebron was right though. :confusedshrug: How sad must someone's life be to get so much joy out of watching a man who doesn't even know you exist fail to accomplish his goal? :wtf: Eventually they had to get back to the real world and realize how sad their lives were. :lol

[Trollsmasher]

OK if you say so pal. I said that Lebron was ahead, and that Miami have won more games. Not sure why you continue on or why Durant gets you so mad? :rolleyes:
I am not asking about W/L, I'm just asking for context, because stats don't tell the whole story

Just look at the last game. It was over by the end of the 3rd quarter. Then Durant scored 22 garbage time, 4th quarter points (holy shit, did not know he was that bad when it mattered:eek: ) and ended up with 40.

Surely he played better than LeBron who had only 39, riiiight?:coleman:

I would much rather see a player crying after losing in the Finals than telling the world it doesn't matter because at the end of the day his life is better than their's.
That's because you are a beta like your boy.

[TheWeeknd]

Apparently boasting about Durant's stellar season, and how he has arguably had a better season than LeBron, is discrediting LeBron. :rolleyes:

Meanwhile you LeBron stans blatantly make shit up about how LeBron just punks Durant everytime they go head to head, yet in the last 10 Durant arguably has better stats.
the only thing durant will be remembered for is giving Lebron his first ring tbh

[LeBron 06]

Holy shit how dumb are the LeBron tots. Durant puts up better stats head to head, but his team goes 3-7 so he's getting trashed. I guess the only thing left for Durant to do is start winning against the Heat head to head with regularity, then they'll have no arguments left.

It's amazing how this is literally Kobe-LeBron circa 2008-09 all over again.


or Durant-LeBron in 2012



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266402

[TheWeeknd]

btw guys i really wasnt trying to troll. i just needed 50 posts so i can set up an avy:confusedshrug:


edit: i think you need 100 posts for one smh.....

guess you guys gotta deal with another 50 from me

[JebronLames]

btw guys i really wasnt trying to troll. i just needed 50 posts so i can set up an avy:confusedshrug:


edit: i think you need 100 posts for one smh.....

guess you guys gotta deal with another 50 from me
Lol I got over 100 posts but still can't set one up.

[Joe Anderson]

Apparently boasting about Durant's stellar season, and how he has arguably had a better season than LeBron, is discrediting LeBron. :rolleyes:

Meanwhile you LeBron stans blatantly make shit up about how LeBron just punks Durant everytime they go head to head, yet in the last 10 Durant arguably has better stats.
Sorry, but stats don't mean ish if they don't translate to wins. When the Thunder really needed Durant to score and take over against the Heat he failed miserably. :confusedshrug:

[TheWeeknd]

Lol I got over 100 posts but still can't set one up.
how much do we need?

[plowking]

Btw Blazered if the blazers faced the thunder in the WCF you'd be rooting for the thunder wouldn't you?:roll:

:oldlol:

So true.

OP needs to stop this Durant jocking as a fake fan of another team. Just admit it bro. Might as well change your name to IluvDurantOKCnuts.
Who cares if their stats are close. I remember Lebron going off for 40 or something last game, and somehow Durant put in 41 despite it being one of the worst games hes played, and him stat padding hard at the end of the game.

[BlazerRed]

I am not asking about W/L, I'm just asking for context, because stats don't tell the whole story

Just look at the last game. It was over by the end of the 3rd quarter. Then Durant scored 22 garbage time, 4th quarter points (holy shit, did not know he was that bad when it mattered:eek: ) and ended up with 40.

Surely he played better than LeBron who had only 39, riiiight?:coleman:

That's because you are a beta like your boy.

Again, I didn't say that :rolleyes: You're just looking to pick fights. It's petty.

[Trollsmasher]

OP, do you think that that new avatar of yours is fooling anyone?:roll:

[chazzy]

Wow Durant brought a deficit down to single digits in their most recent head to head, lets now throw out all of their head to head stats

[Joyner82reload]

Sorry, but stats don't mean ish if they don't translate to wins. When the Thunder really needed Durant to score and take over against the Heat he failed miserably. :confusedshrug:

What the hell are you talking about? He scored 50 4th quarter points in 5 Finals games :wtf:

[JebronLames]

how much do we need?
Idk I thought it was 100.

[TheWeeknd]

What the hell are you talking about? He scored 50 4th quarter points in 5 Finals games :wtf:
stad padding

[BlazerRed]

OP, do you think that that new avatar of yours is fooling anyone?:roll:

What are you talking about? :confusedshrug:

[Joyner82reload]

stad padding

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2U9x2d8D94

:roll:

[Joe Anderson]

What the hell are you talking about? He scored 50 4th quarter points in 5 Finals games :wtf:
Again, where were these points when the team really needed them? In game 4 Lebron went down with cramps and had the exit a tie game about 2 minutes early. If Durant was a true alpha dog he would have smelled blood and taken advantage of Lebron being out by leading his team to victory, but we all know that didn't happen. :lol Lebron briefly came back in and on one leg hit what was basically the game winning 3 pointer! LOL at Durant being outplayed in crunch time by a one legged Lebron. :roll:

[maybeshewill13]

OP, do you think that that new avatar of yours is fooling anyone?:roll:
Wow you're insecure as ****. Kid is ignoring you and you're still trying to fight :lol

[Joe Anderson]

OP, do you think that that new avatar of yours is fooling anyone?:roll:
Damn, don't do him like that. :roll:

[Trollsmasher]

Wow you're insecure as ****. Kid is ignoring you and you're still trying to fight :lol
Guess that's why he answers my every post:lol

[maybeshewill13]

Damn, don't do him like that. :roll:

I've seen you following this Trollsmasher guy thread to thread. I'm sure the dude doesn't need or want his own forum stan. You going to start making threads about how glorious you think all his posts are? So beta :facepalm

[FrobeShaw]

Damn, don't do him like that. :roll:

You two are delusional, if you're not even the same person. You're making Blazer look good, which is quite the damn feat.

[TheWeeknd]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2U9x2d8D94

:roll:
didnt watch lol

[russwest0]

probably because durant was guarding chalmers the whole game

Implying he didn't hold LeBron to below 40% shooting when guarding him, the refs were just ****ing him over. Also implying LBJ didn't guard perkins who is even more useless than chalmers

[Joe Anderson]

why are guys fighting over durant and bran when you could all love kobe
Real bball fans prefer guys like Lebron, players who had to pay their dues and take tons of criticism before finally breaking through. Kobe on the other hand got carried to 3 rings by the most dominant big man in NBA history!:facepalm Kobe never went through any growing pains, never took any criticism, just had 3 rings handed to him on a silver platter. That just isn't something I can respect.

[FrobeShaw]

Implying he didn't hold LeBron to below 40% shooting when guarding him, the refs were just ****ing him over. Also implying LBJ didn't guard perkins who is even more useless than chalmers

Stop implying. You're not on 4chan.

[TheWeeknd]

thunder fans how did yall feel when this was on your tv?


http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1199533/yaylebron_medium.gif

[russwest0]

Durant held LeBron to 9/27 shooting when guarding him in the finals. So you can see why the refs made it a point to get him into foul trouble.

[Eye Test]

Real bball fans prefer guys like Lebron, players who had to pay their dues and take tons of criticism before finally breaking through. Kobe on the other hand got carried to 3 rings by the most dominant big man in NBA history!:facepalm Kobe never went through any growing pains, never took any criticism, just had 3 rings handed to him on a silver platter. That just isn't something I can respect.

so kobe should have choked away series with shaq in order to have a lebronesque growing curve? if taking smush and kwame to the playoffs aint growing pain dunno what it is..and what were lebron growing pains? organizing a meeting at south beach?

[russwest0]

thunder fans how did yall feel when this was on your tv?


http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1199533/yaylebron_medium.gif

No different than Mavs fans probably felt in 2006. We aren't stupid enough to believe that the league COULDN'T decide a winner at any moment in the playoffs. Like wanting to pimp Wade up as the next great SG in 2006. This time they wanted to stop all of the negativity surrounding LeBron and the Heat and get him his first ring. It obviously worked.

If the league wanted Durant to get his first ring this year, guess who's getting his first ring this year. It's the way this league works.

[TheWeeknd]

No different than Mavs fans probably felt in 2006. We aren't stupid enough to believe that the league COULDN'T decide a winner at any moment in the playoffs. Like wanting to pimp Wade up as the next great SG in 2006. This time they wanted to stop all of the negativity surrounding LeBron and the Heat and get him his first ring. It obviously worked.

If the league wanted Durant to get his first ring this year, guess who's getting his first ring this year. It's the way this league works.
lol.



if they wanted an actual poster boy they woulda picked durant since everyone hated lbj at the time.

[Joe Anderson]

Durant held LeBron to 9/27 shooting when guarding him in the finals. So you can see why the refs made it a point to get him into foul trouble.
Foul trouble? Do you need a tissue? Durant may have been in foul trouble for 2 games,but he never fouled out! Lebron has failed out of playoff games each of the last 2 post seasons, but instead of crying about it he regrouped and led his team to series victories. It's a shame Durant couldn't do the same.

[russwest0]

lol.



if they wanted an actual poster boy they woulda picked durant since everyone hated lbj at the time.

Not true at all. You have to think about it from a marketing perspective. LBJ plays in a larger market and has been in the spotlight since high school. It's obviously not good business to keep have him coming up short in the Finals. Durant was 23. Even though he was playing better than LeBron at that point in the playoffs they understood LeBron still needed to have his time since KD would get to his anyways.

To be honest the finals should have been Celtics/Spurs. But that still doesn't change the fact that when it was Heat/Thunder, the refs made it clear their priority was to get LeBron his first ring. The way the media described this was by saying OKC as a young team just hadn't earned their stripes yet and that was why they weren't getting the calls or why Durant was getting into foul trouble.

[Joe Anderson]

lol.



if they wanted an actual poster boy they woulda picked durant since everyone hated lbj at the time.
Shhhhh, don't bring logic into this argument. It doesn't fit with the conspiracy theories. :lol

[knicksman]

Foul trouble? Do you need a tissue? Durant may have been in foul trouble for 2 games,but he never fouled out! Lebron has failed out of playoff games each of the last 2 post seasons, but instead of crying about it he regrouped and led his team to series victories. It's a shame Durant couldn't do the same.

LMAO at regrouped. No he formed a superteam after failing every playoffs. He realized hes too weak to win in this league.

[Joe Anderson]

Durant was in foul trouble for 3 games. Had to miss crucial stretches. Some of them he left and OKC had a 5 point lead. Came back and they were down by 5.

Again, you're getting exposed as a dumbass. In line with 90% of the Jan 14 class though.
Wrong, Durant was in foul trouble for games 2 and 3 only! Technically Durant should have fouled out of game 2, but the refs bailed him out by calling a blocking foul on Battier. Just stop posting, all you are doing is exposing your lack of basketball knowledge. :facepalm

[russwest0]

Wrong, Durant was in foul trouble for games 2 and 3 only! Technically Durant should have fouled out of game 2, but the refs bailed him out by calling a blocking foul on Battier. Just stop posting, all you are doing is exposing your lack of basketball knowledge. :facepalm

You mean the same game where he got a foul called on him for cleanly blocking Wade? Or a foul called on him for jab stepping on offense and not even touching a defender? Yeah, definitely should have fouled out that game, huh :lol

Alright dude, keep embarrassing yourself, you're the last guy the LBJ stan team would send in to win the debate :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[pauk]

2012 onwards, 9 games, including playoff games, here are the stats.

Durant: 27/6.5/3
Lebron: 26/5.5/7.5

And because I know some idiots will bring it up, Durant 8.3 FTA, Lebron 7.1.

Yep, Lebron has outplayed Durant. We know that, the Heat have more wins.. but can we not have everyone acting like it's so one-sided between Lebron and Durant in these performances? Lebron clearly has the better team and he has been in his prime. Their stats are almost identical, besides the clear assist lead to Lebron.

Really wish Westbrook wasn't injured for their next dual. It would have been awesome otherwise. Sadly I think with the defensive weapons the Heat have the Thunder will get smashed without Westbrook, and Durant will havea little trouble without any other shot creates on his team to take some of the defensive pressure. If these two teams get to the finals and are healthy, it's going to be insanely good. No excuses for the loser, just glory and praise for the winner.

Its not simply passing that sepparates Lebron from Durant, but also efficiency, defense, versatility on both sides, IQ/leadership, just intangibles you cant measure in stats..... and not to mention, outcome/results when the year is done....

[BlazerRed]

Its not simply passing that sepparates Lebron from Durant, but also efficiency, defense, versatility on both sides & intangibles..... and not to mention, outcome/results when the year is done....

Obviously.. but those things are also helped by the company on your team.. which the Heat clearly have the more talented and experienced team. I think the real test of who's the better player will come when these two meet in the next couple years if both teams are healthy. Both players will then be in their primes and both teams should be about equal in talent. It's been a LONG time since these two last met and Durant has matured a lot. Lebron is still Lebron and playing great ball.

[TheWeeknd]

Obviously.. but those things are also helped by the company on your team.. which the Heat clearly have the more talented and experienced team. I think the real test of who's the better player will come when these two meet in the next couple years if both teams are healthy. Both players will then be in their primes and both teams should be about equal in talent. It's been a LONG time since these two last met and Durant has matured a lot. Lebron is still Lebron and playing great ball.
if i recall correctly most people were thinking the thunder were gonna win it all. after all, bosh was coming back from injury and the old celtics took the heat to game 7. The thunder were well rested after backdoor sweeping the spurs.


if you switched the 2012 lebron and durants, the thunder would then be considered the more stacked team. thats just how great lebron is

[pauk]

Obviously.. but those things are also helped by the company on your team.. which the Heat clearly have the more talented and experienced team. I think the real test of who's the better player will come when these two meet in the next couple years if both teams are healthy. Both players will then be in their primes and both teams should be about equal in talent.

A healthy OKC i think are just as good.... and they did face eachother at their healthiest/best once, in the Finals.... they had also Harden that time...

[BlazerRed]

A healthy OKC i think are just as good.... and they did face eachother at their healthiest/best once, in the Finals.... they had also Harden that time...

Come on Pauk, we both know that's not when the Thunder has been at their best. The Thunder when healthy this year have been way better than that finals team. Durant was what, 23 in the finals? Westbrook 22? Ibaka 22 or 21? All players are far better now, and their bench is much more well-rounded. As I said, I think their best battles are to come in the next couple years.. assuming the star players all play.


if i recall correctly most people were thinking the thunder were gonna win it all. after all, bosh was coming back from injury and the old celtics took the heat to game 7. The thunder were well rested after backdoor sweeping the spurs.

if you switched the 2012 lebron and durants, the thunder would then be considered the more stacked team. thats just how great lebron is

The Thunder were very young and inexperienced. They played a great playoff series but if I recall correctly no team that young has ever won a championship. They just didn't have the experience. Lebron had faced defeat before, twice, he was driven more than ever. Also Brooks was terrible as a coach. He's somewhat better now, still a weak point of that team though.

[Black and White]

I was just trying to talk ball lol.. the dude wouldn't give it a rest. I seemed to have upset him.

He was a horrible poster, good riddance

[BlazerRed]

He was a horrible poster, good riddance
Frobe banned too. Now can we actually go back to the OP people?

[Black and White]

Frobe banned too. Now can we actually go back to the OP people?

Lol this Jan 2014 class getting cut like cheese

[AintNoSunshine]

Here are their last 10 matchups

Durant 31.6 ppg 6.5 rpg 3.5 apg 54.2 FG% 42.7 3P% 84.7 FT%
LeBron 28.1 ppg 8.9 rpg 7.3 apg 48.8 FG% 23.0 3P% 83.9 FT%

Miami 7-3 advantage in wins. Yep LeBron just sons Durant head to head :rolleyes:

Why are you rolling your eyes? 7-3 is pretty good sonning to me

[JohnFreeman]

You don't support Portland, just admit it.

[JohnFreeman]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/3851938/kevin-durant-crying-o.gif

This is what happens Durant goes up against LeBron.

[BlazerRed]

You don't support Portland, just admit it.
Please stick to discussion on the OP. Two people have been banned already for trolling this thread, don't be the third.

[Black and White]

You don't support Portland, just admit it.

You will be the next one banned

[JohnFreeman]

Please stick to discussion on the OP. Two people have been banned already for trolling this thread, don't be the third.

Portland are doing well, but you don't seem to notice..
Anyway, Durant is not better then LeBron and I don't think he will ever win a ring.

[Black and White]

Portland are doing well, but you don't seem to notice..
Anyway, Durant is not better then LeBron and I don't think he will ever win a ring.

He is too talented to never win a ring, he will win one, I just don't know if it will be in OKC, but he will win

[JohnFreeman]

He is too talented to never win a ring, he will win one, I just don't know if it will be in OKC, but he will win

He will probably win one but not FMVP. If Thunder win in 2012 he isn't getting that FMVP over Westbrook

[Black and White]

He will probably win one but not FMVP. If Thunder win in 2012 he isn't getting that FMVP over Westbrook

Questionable, he had great stats that series, and I think he gets FMVP if he wins, he's getting better at the other aspects of the game every season, he's becoming a more complete player.

[BlazerRed]

Portland are doing well, but you don't seem to notice..
Anyway, Durant is not better then LeBron and I don't think he will ever win a ring.
I notice, but I don't want to overhype us then look like an idiot. We've lost some pretty silly games, we haven't really proved much and need to improve defensively before we are a threat in the playoffs.

That's an incredibly silly and bias statement too. You have nothing to found that on. How do you know how his career will pan out in the future?

[JohnFreeman]

I notice, but I don't want to overhype us then look like an idiot. We've lost some pretty silly games, we haven't really proved much and need to improve defensively before we are a threat in the playoffs.

That's an incredibly silly and bias statement too. You have nothing to found that on. How do you know how his career will pan out in the future?

I'm sorry do you know how it will pan out? No. I can have an opinion and my judgement is he can't win without another superstar to lead. Westbrook is going somewhere else after his contract.

[JohnFreeman]

Questionable, he had great stats that series, and I think he gets FMVP if he wins, he's getting better at the other aspects of the game every season, he's becoming a more complete player.

He disappeared in pretty key stretches. Box score obviously can't show that though.

[Black and White]

He disappeared in pretty key stretches. Box score obviously can't show that though.

Yea mainly in the 2nd and 3rd quarters, but he showed up in the 4th, Durant would have got FMVP.

[BlazerRed]

I'm sorry do you know how it will pan out? No. I can have an opinion and my judgement is he can't win without another superstar to lead. Westbrook is going somewhere else after his contract.
No but I'm also not guaranteeing something that I know nothing about, which is exactly what you're doing. I saw you say in another thread that Melo > Durant, so clearly you're like these other trolls and hate Durant.

[Black and White]

No but I'm also not guaranteeing something that I know nothing about, which is exactly what you're doing. I saw you say in another thread that Melo > Durant, so clearly you're like these other trolls and hate Durant.

He said that?? I love me some Melo but that is just stupid

[JohnFreeman]

No but I'm also not guaranteeing something that I know nothing about, which is exactly what you're doing. I saw you say in another thread that Melo > Durant, so clearly you're like these other trolls and hate Durant.

I am a troll for voicing my opinion? All you stans are the same, as soon as someone doesn't agree the water works start.

[Black and White]

I am a troll for voicing my opinion? All you stans are the same, as soon as someone doesn't agree the water works start.

You become a troll when the agenda you try to promote is incorrect. Case in point: Melo > Durant

[JohnFreeman]

You become a troll when the agenda you try to promote is incorrect. Case in point: Melo > Durant

Well I think Carmelo is better then Durant.

[BlazerRed]

I am a troll for voicing my opinion? All you stans are the same, as soon as someone doesn't agree the water works start.
Come on buddy. Your 'opinion' is nothing but pure hate with nothing to back it up. You said it yourself, you think that Melo > Durant, so don't try and pretend there's no bias/agenda here.

[Black and White]

Well I think Carmelo is better then Durant.

What do you have to back that up?

[BlazerRed]

Well I think Carmelo is better then Durant.
Again an opinion with nothing to back it up? I'm guessing you're basing it on Melo's impressive playoff record? Like getting his team to the finals at only 23 years of age? Ok.. Come on man. Just say it. 'I hate Durant'.

[JohnFreeman]

Come on buddy. Your 'opinion' is nothing but pure hate with nothing to back it up. You said it yourself, you think that Melo > Durant, so don't try and pretend there's no bias/agenda here.

I don't hate Durant. I think his free throw attempts per game are shameful though.

[Black and White]

I don't hate Durant. I think his free throw attempts per game are shameful though.

You are a Durant hater

[JohnFreeman]

You are a Durant hater

If that's what you think. I am not crazy about supporting other superstars in the same conference my team is in.

[BlazerRed]

I don't hate Durant. I think his free throw attempts per game are shameful though.
Now the agenda comes out. Just leave please, you don't have anything to contribute to this thread.

[Black and White]

If that's what you think. I am not crazy about supporting other superstars in the same conference my team is in.

Fair enough, can't knock you for that but don't prop a player in the east over him if it isn't true

[JohnFreeman]

Fair enough, can't knock you for that but don't prop a player in the east over him if it isn't true

Well it's honestly what I think but I agree to disagree. Durant isn't better then LeBron though. Durant needs a either a ring (as the man) or a regular season MVP to be even in the conversation.

[Black and White]

Well it's honestly what I think but I agree to disagree. Durant isn't better then LeBron though. Durant needs a either a ring (as the man) or a regular season MVP to be even in the conversation.

Nah Durant isn't better than LeBron, this is how I rank the small forwards in the league:

LeBron
Durant
George/Melo

[BlazerRed]

Well it's honestly what I think but I agree to disagree. Durant isn't better then LeBron though. Durant needs a either a ring (as the man) or a regular season MVP to be even in the conversation.
Again, you still haven't backed up anything you have said with any reason why. Why do you think Melo is better than Durant? Don't tell me 'because he's in the East'.

[Crafty]

http://i.imgur.com/acsZK.gif

[retaxis]

where is the defensive stats? you know..the other half of the game?

[ArbitraryWater]

Just stop with the Blazers fan crap :facepalm

Anyone who watched their matchups last year, KNEW that LeBron OBLITERATED him... nobody even talked about KD's 40 because they all came of gifted FT's and LeBron hit em when the game was still in reach.

[RightToCensor]

Lebron > KD-Whistle

/thread

[Solefade]

LeBron is the best player in the league.



(big gap)





KD is the second best.

[JamiesChrist]

Anyone who thinks Durant is better than Lebron is not worth discussibg basketball with and should be ip banned.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

I bet these Durant Stans think Durant outplayed Lebron in their last matchup because he scored 1 more point.

[Eye Test]

I bet these Durant Stans think Durant outplayed Lebron in their last matchup because he scored 1 more point.

well didnt he?

[inclinerator]

wtf is dual, u mean duel?

[Illuminati]

I bet these Durant Stans think Durant outplayed Lebron in their last matchup because he scored 1 more point.

:oldlol: Biggest joke of a 40 point game in recent memory.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

I bet these Durant Stans think Durant outplayed Lebron in their last matchup because he scored 1 more point.
How many FTs doe??

[Solefade]

I bet these Durant Stans think Durant outplayed Lebron in their last matchup because he scored 1 more point.

You can tell who watched the game and who didn't. :lol

[KirbyPls]

well didnt he?

Dat irony considering this boy's handle.