Lebron "I get jealous that KD shoots 30+ shots a night"

[Dizzle-2k7]

http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/01/lebron-james-jealous-kevin-durant?utm_campaign=complexmag+socialflow+01+2014&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social


"I do get jealous, I'm not gonna lie," he revealed. "I get jealous sometimes when I look over at KD and he's like 16-for-32 and then 14-for-34.


Truth is: Lebron lacks the skillset to get off 30+ "good" shots a night.. he'd also lose that precious FG% of his he covets so much.

:biggums:

[Lebron23]

Long time no see bro. did you cried after the Heat won game 6 and game 7?? Duncan and the Spurs choked in that series. and last time lebron attempted 23 shots per game. He averaged 31.4 ppg as a 21 yrs.old.

[Milbuck]

He had like 7 years of being able to do that whenever he wanted to, he chose to give it up :confusedshrug:

[MP.Trey]

And I'm sure Durant is jealous of LeBron's championships. Personally, I'd rather be on LeBron's shoes on this one.

[Solefade]

Truth is: Lebron lacks the skillset to get off 30+ "good" shots a night.. he'd also lose that precious FG% of his he covets so much.

:biggums:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200905200CLE.html

game 1 :confusedshrug:

[LeBron 06]

If LeBron attempt 27 shots per game like Kobe in 2006, James could easily average 35-37 PPG...I mean, in 2006 at the age of 21, LeBron had averaged 31 PPG in 23 shot attempts per game

[Lebron23]

And I'm sure Durant is jealous of LeBron's championships. Personally, I'd rather be on LeBron's shoes on this one.


This

[Dizzle-2k7]

Long time no see bro. did you cried after the Heat won game 6 and game 7?? Duncan and the Spurs choked in that series. and last time lebron attempted 23 shots per game. He averaged 31.4 ppg as a 21 yrs.old.

Duncan - 4 rings as the defensive and offensive anchor

Lebron - 2 rings with a superstar team

u mad? ya u maddddd

[Lebron23]

Lebron with the same numbers of Finals MVP as Timothy Duncan. after this season. When was the last time that bisexual average more than 26 ppg in the regular season? if you are critiquing Lebron's scoring. He's a far better scorer than Duncan in the regular season and in the playoffs.

[Black and White]

Lebron with the same numbers of Finals MVP as Timothy Duncan. after this season. When was the last time that bisexual average more than 26 ppg in the regular season? if you are critiquing Lebron's scoring. He's a far better scorer than Duncan in the regular season and in the playoffs.

Whoa, no need to attack Duncan man, his career is still better than LeBron's.

[Lebron23]

Whoa, no need to attack Duncan man, his career is still better than LeBron's.


Op is a Duncan Stan who disappeared in this forum after the Heat beat them in game 7.

after this season both of them would have 3 Bill Russell Finals MVP in their trophy case.

Duncan never won back to back NBA titles. lebron would be the 3rd player in the last 30 years to lead his team into back to back to back NBA titles.

[HylianNightmare]

sounds like he's just taking shots

[CNNonceAgain]

Whoa, no need to attack Duncan man, his career is still better than LeBron's.

Not when it's all said and done. In fact, within 3 years.

[HylianNightmare]

He had like 7 years of being able to do that whenever he wanted to, he chose to give it up :confusedshrug:


not enough bucks in this post:no:

[Eye Test]

take a guess bout lebrons fg% if he shot 30+ a game, low 30's would be my guess

[Lebron23]

at the Op for downplaying lebron's offensive skills

Tim Duncan's best scoring season 25.5 ppg on 50.8 FG%
Lecoasting James current season 26 ppg on 60 FG%. (his 2nd worst scoring averages since his rookie year)

I expect him to put up much better numbers. He's currently averaging 29 ppg on 60 FG%, 5 rpg, and 5 apg this month.

[Heavincent]

Poor Lebron, having to put up with his stacked team.

[El Gato Negro]

Whoa, no need to attack Duncan man, his career is still better than LeBron's.
and always will be considering he didn't have to stack the deck to win.

[LeBron 06]

take a guess bout lebrons fg% if he shot 30+ a game, low 30's would be my guess


He was at 48%(at 21 years old)when he attempted 23 shots per games

[Joyner82reload]

LeBron's career average 20.0 FGA and 8.6 FTA
Durant's career average 18.9 FGA and 8.2 FTA

:wtf:

And the amusing thing if Durant keeps up his averages since Westbrook went out, he will be averaging more ppg for his career despite averaging 1.1 less FGA and .4 less FTA

[Black and White]

Op is a Duncan Stan who disappeared in this forum after the Heat beat them in game 7.

after this season both of them would have 3 Bill Russell Finals MVP in their trophy case.

Duncan never won back to back NBA titles. lebron would be the 3rd player in the last 30 years to lead his team into back to back to back NBA titles.

Why do you LeBron stans assume the title is yours this year??? Get past the Pacers first.

[Eye Test]

He was at 48%(at 21 years old)when he attempted 23 shots per games

the drop after 21 shots is exponential not linear

[Dizzle-2k7]

LeBron's career average 20.0 FGA and 8.6 FTA
Durant's career average 18.9 FGA and 8.2 FTA

:wtf:

And the amusing thing if Durant keeps up his averages since Westbrook went out, he will be averaging more ppg for his career despite averaging 1.1 less FGA and .4 less FTA


:applause:

[Lebron23]

Why do you LeBron stans assume the title is yours this year??? Get past the Pacers first.


They beat the Pacers in 6 or 7 games. I guaranSHEED.

[Black and White]

They beat the Pacers in 6 or 7 games. I guaranSHEED.

I believe the Pacers knock them off this year.

[Lebron23]

Call me when Durant averaged 39.8 ppg on 52 FG% against the number one defensive team.

and Lebron did averaged 35.4 ppg in the 2009 NBA Playoffs.

[CNNonceAgain]

I believe the Pacers knock them off this year.

All you do is talk about the Heat and LeBron. What is your team? Try discussing them.

[Dizzle-2k7]

duncan will always be better considering he didn't have to stack the deck to win.


THIS. Duncan had the chance to jump ship to ORLANDO with Grant Hill and Tmac.. guess what .. HE DIDNT. He stayed in San Antonio like a MAN.

Bron couldnt handle the pressure of being an ANCHOR so he joined Wade and Bosh to let them handle the pressure. :facepalm

[Eye Test]

Call me when Durant averaged 39.8 ppg on 52 FG% against the number one defensive team.

and Lebron did averaged 35.4 ppg in the 2009 NBA Playoffs.

can i call you when durant dissapears and costs his team a finals series? (i got your number)

[Lebron23]

can i call you when durant dissapears and costs his team a finals series? (i got your number)


Just like Kobe in 2004. Welcome back Ms. Jabbitch.

[Uncle Drew]

at the Op for downplaying lebron's offensive skills

Tim Duncan's best scoring season 25.5 ppg on 50.8 FG%
Lecoasting James current season 26 ppg on 60 FG%. (his 2nd worst scoring averages since his rookie year)

I expect him to put up much better numbers. He's currently averaging 29 ppg on 60 FG%, 5 rpg, and 5 apg this month.
Nobody cares. Absolutely nobody.

[Dizzle-2k7]

Lebron is not an Alpha Male.. thats why he joined Wade

[Lebron23]

All you do is talk about the Heat and LeBron. What is your team? Try discussing them.


Boston Celtics fan who's favorite NBA player is Kobe.

[CNNonceAgain]

THIS. Duncan had the chance to jump ship to ORLANDO with Grant Hill and Tmac.. guess what .. HE DIDNT. He stayed in San Antonio like a MAN.

Bron couldnt handle the pressure of being an ANCHOR so he joined Wade and Bosh to let them handle the pressure. :facepalm

Bosh was averaging 14 PPG the first ring and 12 PPG the second one. His shooting wasn't even good for a big. Such pressure. Such superstar.

Wade was nowhere near a superstar the last ring and an all-star the first ring.

[Black and White]

All you do is talk about the Heat and LeBron. What is your team? Try discussing them.

Well considering this thread is about LeBron, me talking about the Celtics would be off topic wouldn't it?

[Dizzle-2k7]

Bosh was averaging 14 PPG the first ring and 12 PPG the second one. His shooting wasn't even good for a big. Such pressure. Such superstar.

Wade was nowhere near a superstar the last ring and an all-star the first ring.

Bosh without Bron is a 25/12 player. Next. :sleeping

[inclinerator]

take a guess bout lebrons fg% if he shot 30+ a game, low 30's would be my guess
really?

[CNNonceAgain]

Nobody cares. Absolutely nobody.

A thread about Durant and LeBron's offense. Stats thrown in your face. Who cares? How mad are you right now to make this pointless post?

[Lebron23]

Bosh without Bron is a 25/12 player. Next. :sleeping


Manu won an olympic Gold Medal without duncan. Duncan hated the zone defense and the more physical FIBA rules.

[CNNonceAgain]

Bosh without Bron is a 25/12 player. Next. :sleeping

You would think that player would be capable of at least putting up 18 PPG on great efficiency on a stacked team, right? No, it's LeBron's fault he's not playing up to his ability.

Bring a true argument instead of trolling.

[East_Stone_Ya]

yup Dizzle is mad

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AZ_ln5sQvk4/Uo5CCgSIHsI/AAAAAAAAA6E/_A1soTxcTbU/s1600/wrestling-she-mad.gif

[Dizzle-2k7]

You would think that player would be capable of at least putting up 18 PPG on great efficiency on a stacked team, right? No, it's LeBron's fault he's not playing up to his ability.

Bring a true argument instead of trolling.

Lebron is a ball stopper ... similar to Melo but with more efficiency. .. this is common knowledge :biggums:

[Uncle Drew]

A thread about Durant and LeBron's offense. Stats thrown in your face. Who cares? How mad are you right now to make this pointless post?
Not mad at all. It's just annoying and also depressing when all of his 41,544 posts are about ''LeBron averaged this'', LeBron averaged that'', ''LeBron does this'', ''LeBron does that''.

We get it, LeBron is a great player.

[CNNonceAgain]

Lebron is a ball stopper ... similar to Melo but with more efficiency. .. this is common knowledge :biggums:

You have absolutely zero knowledge on this game or at least pretending not to. I cannot believe I actually responded to you sincerely. You are not trying and disrespecting any real discussion we could be having. :coleman:

[Dizzle-2k7]

You have absolutely zero knowledge on this game or at least pretending not to. I cannot believe I actually responded to you sincerely. You are not trying and disrespecting any real discussion we could be having. :coleman:

As opposed to you saying Bosh isnt a star? Bosh has been a star since 2008.. just because his numbers arent there (thanks Lebron and Spo) doesnt mean he isnt a legitimate bonafide star. Grow up, kid. :coleman:

[KirbyPls]

You have absolutely zero knowledge on this game or at least pretending not to. I cannot believe I actually responded to you sincerely. You are not trying and disrespecting any real discussion we could be having. :coleman:

Can't expect much more from a Kobetard doe.

[Lebron23]

Lebron said that because the Miami Heat really needs his scoring right now. Expect him to increase his scoring productions in the next few games.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

This thread is sad. People arguing about others girlfriends as if its their own accomplishment :facepalm

[Dizzle-2k7]

Lebron said that because the Miami Heat really needs his scoring now that cause Wade doesn't play back to back game. Expect him to scoring productions in the next few games.

Who needs Wade when you have HOF Ray Allen, 2nd overall pick Michael Beasley, and 100 million$ contract All star Shard Lewis? :confusedshrug:

[KirbyPls]

Stars regularly average 12 ppg for a playoffs and zero in a Finals game 7, it just depends on their coach and supporting cast. :coleman:

[CNNonceAgain]

As opposed to you saying Bosh isnt a star? Bosh has been a star since 2008.. just because his numbers arent there (thanks Lebron and Spo) doesnt mean he isnt a legitimate bonafide star. Grow up, kid. :coleman:

You cannot excuse his poor performances and blame everyone else. The least he could is average 18 PPG on great efficiency.

We're talking 14 PPG on SG efficiency.

[Black and White]

You have absolutely zero knowledge on this game or at least pretending not to. I cannot believe I actually responded to you sincerely. You are not trying and disrespecting any real discussion we could be having. :coleman:

He did make a fair point about Bosh though, his role in the team has progressively diminished, I have no doubt if he went to a team like Phoenix or something he will be back over 20ppg

[Dizzle-2k7]

This thread is sad. People arguing about others girlfriends as if its their own accomplishment :facepalm


idiot :facepalm he claims Duncan is gay based off false internet rumors. I posted Duncans fineass GF to prove a point. Fool.

[KirbyPls]

This thread is sad. People arguing about others girlfriends as if its their own accomplishment :facepalm

It's the only life I have. :cry:

[Eye Test]

Just like Kobe in 2004. Welcome back Ms. Jabbitch.

:cheers:

[LeBron 06]

Who needs Wade when you have HOF Ray Allen, 2nd overall pick Michael Beasley, and 100 million$ contract All star Shard Lewis? :confusedshrug:


LOL

Allen is 38 years old, Beasley was cut by two teams and Lewis is done

[CNNonceAgain]

He did make a fair point about Bosh though, his role in the team has progressively diminished, I have no doubt if he went to a team like Phoenix or something he will be back over 20ppg

Sure, Bosh is still Bosh, but why is he not taking advantage of this opportunity? How many other star PF do you think would average 12 PPG for a playoffs in that system? I'm venturing not many. I think most would take full advantage of this. Could you imagine LMA there? :eek:

[Lebron23]

Who needs Wade when you have HOF Ray Allen, 2nd overall pick Michael Beasley, and 100 million$ contract All star Shard Lewis? :confusedshrug:


:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis aka the Miami Heat Super Sonics are past their primes.

Beasley resurrected his NBA Career this season.

[chosen_one6]

idiot :facepalm he claims Duncan is gay based off false internet rumors. I posted Duncans fineass GF to prove a point. Fool.

Not saying Timmay is gay but gay men have been known to have girlfriends and wives to cover up their down-low lifestyle. Sometimes they even have children with them too. So just because someone has a "fineass GF" it doesn't mean they don't like taking d*ck in their butt.

[Dizzle-2k7]

Sure, Bosh is still Bosh, but why is he not taking advantage of this opportunity? How many other star PF do you think would average 12 PPG for a playoffs in that system? I'm venturing not many. I think most would take full advantage of this. Could you imagine LMA there? :eek:

LMAO. You could put Wilt Chamberlain on this Heat squad and he wouldnt average over 20 ppg. They are so stacked , and Lebron is very good at getting everyone involved... also Wade's self entitled ass thinks he deserves to be MVP.. Wilt might only get 10 shots a game on this squad with Lebron pounding out the shot clock.

[Dizzle-2k7]

Not saying Timmay is gay but gay men have been known to have girlfriends and wives to cover up their down-low lifestyle. Sometimes they even have children with them too. So just because someone has a "fineass GF" it doesn't mean they don't like taking d*ck in their butt.

i agree 100% but theres absolutely zero credible evidence that duncan is gay :no:

[Black and White]

Sure, Bosh is still Bosh, but why is he not taking advantage of this opportunity? How many other star PF do you think would average 12 PPG for a playoffs in that system? I'm venturing not many. I think most would take full advantage of this. Could you imagine LMA there? :eek:

LMA is a different type of player to Bosh, Bosh doesn't post up as much as him, he seems to have regressed to relying on his jumpshot as the primary weapon even though he has skill close to the basket.

[CNNonceAgain]

LMAO. You could put Wilt Chamberlain on this Heat squad and he wouldnt average over 20 ppg. They are so stacked , and Lebron is very good at getting everyone involved. Wilt might only get 10 shots a game on this squad with Lebron pounding out the shot clock.

Are you saying it's cool for PF to average 12 on less than 50% shooting with all that room to operate? All those looks? Having a ton of other people to feed off? Get real. Bosh is not living up to himself. We see it in spurts but he should be more consistent. His first year was his best year, by far.

[Black and White]

Not saying Timmay is gay but gay men have been known to have girlfriends and wives to cover up their down-low lifestyle. Sometimes they even have children with them too. So just because someone has a "fineass GF" it doesn't mean they don't like taking d*ck in their butt.

You aren't hating on him because he is possibly gay right?

[Dizzle-2k7]

Are you saying it's cool for PF to average 12 on less than 50% shooting with all that room to operate? All those looks? Having a ton of other people to feed off? Get real. Bosh is not living up to himself. We see it in spurts but he should be more consistent. His first year was his best year, by far.

how often does he get a chance to post up or get in his spots? RARELY. heres the heat offense:

pick n roll, if they commit, pass to bosh for a JUMPER.

they NEVER post up bosh or let him operate . its not apart of the "plan"

[RighteousMax]

Long time no see bro. did you cried after the Heat won game 6 and game 7?? Duncan and the Spurs choked in that series. and last time lebron attempted 23 shots per game. He averaged 31.4 ppg as a 21 yrs.old.
Be mature about this. Stop acting like a kid.

[CNNonceAgain]

You aren't hating on him because he is possibly gay right?

You mean like how much Bosh is hated on and mocked?

[Lebron23]

Be mature about this. Stop acting like a kid.


It's Dizzle-2k7. I think he's a good guy.

[Black and White]

how often does he get a chance to post up or get in his spots? RARELY. heres the heat offense:

pick n roll, if they commit, pass to bosh for a JUMPER.

they NEVER post up bosh or let him operate . its not apart of the "plan"

Not to mention the Heat score a lot in transition, those type of teams don't favour big men like Bosh.

[Black and White]

You mean like how much Bosh is hated on and mocked?

I have never mocked Bosh except for when he poured champagne over himself, you gotta admit that was funny :lol

[Dizzle-2k7]

You mean like how much Bosh is hated on and mocked?

LMAO as if Bosh doesnt deserve it for his antics .. Duncan never does the gay shlt Bosh does on/off court.

Duncan drag races and fukks fine latinas...Bosh gets caught doing gay shlt every other day

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9buenBDKg1qht9tio1_500.png

you tired of getting bitchslapped yet, kiddo?

[KirbyPls]

Gay or not, Duncan is top 7-9 all time. Similarly, rapist or not, Kobe is top 9-12 all time. :bowdown: Both all-timers, but one happened to be the best player on his team for his entire career.

[CNNonceAgain]

Why would I get mad as if Duncan isn't one of my favorite players?

[Marlo_Stanfield]

http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/01/lebron-james-jealous-kevin-durant?utm_campaign=complexmag+socialflow+01+2014&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social




Truth is: Lebron lacks the skillset to get off 30+ "good" shots a night.. he'd also lose that precious FG% of his he covets so much.

:biggums:
salty idiot who knows nothing about basketball confirmed:coleman:

[Black and White]

Gay or not, Duncan is top 7-9 all time. Similarly, rapist or not, Kobe is top 9-12 all time. :bowdown: Both all-timers, but one happened to be the best player on his team for his entire career.

Tony Parker? :confusedshrug:

[STATUTORY]

:facepalm

Lebron with a backhanded compliment. we gonna act like despite Lebron's incessant cheesing he's not only slightly ahead of KD in efficiency?

[CNNonceAgain]

:facepalm

Lebron with a backhanded compliment. we gonna act like despite Lebron's incessant cheesing he's not only slightly ahead of KD in efficiency?

Irony being that players like Durant live off TS% and yet are still destroyed in that category by LeBron. Stings a bit, doesn't it?

[Purch]

Op is a Duncan Stan who disappeared in this forum after the Heat beat them in game 7.

after this season both of them would have 3 Bill Russell Finals MVP in their trophy case.

Duncan never won back to back NBA titles. lebron would be the 3rd player in the last 30 years to lead his team into back to back to back NBA titles.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[STATUTORY]

Irony being that players like Durant live off TS% and yet are still destroyed in that category by LeBron. Stings a bit, doesn't it?

:biggums: irony that a jumpshooter has lower TS% than a guy that does this?
http://i.imgur.com/AsZfQiZ.jpg

what irony? Lebron cheeses so much, dude never takes a tough shot

[Deuce Bigalow]

What a ******

[LeBron 06]

:biggums: irony that a jumpshooter has lower TS% than a guy that does this?
http://i.imgur.com/AsZfQiZ.jpg

what irony? Lebron cheeses so much, dude never takes a tough shot


LeBron has a amazing shot selection:bowdown:

[Dizzle-2k7]

LeBron has a amazing shot selection:bowdown:

dunks and layups are the sign of a TRUE GOAT /s

[chosen_one6]

You aren't hating on him because he is possibly gay right?

I would never hate on Tim Duncan. He's a real professional.

[LeBron 06]

dunks and layups are the sign of a TRUE GOAT /s


with 26 PPG, it is not a problem

[Black and White]

I would never hate on Tim Duncan. He's a real professional.

:cheers:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

As opposed to you saying Bosh isnt a star? Bosh has been a star since 2008.. just because his numbers arent there (thanks Lebron and Spo) doesnt mean he isnt a legitimate bonafide star. Grow up, kid. :coleman:
calling bosh a star:facepalm :facepalm

[Dizzle-2k7]

calling bosh a star:facepalm :facepalm


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

You = SCRUB

[Lebron23]

with 26 PPG, it is not a problem


LBJ being more efficient than a Prime Tim Duncan who's 7 feet tall.

[Black and White]

calling bosh a star:facepalm :facepalm

Jan 14 :facepalm

[Marlo_Stanfield]

LeBron is the best player ever and certainly miles ahead of Kevin Durant.stay mad doe:applause: :applause:

[Dizzle-2k7]

with 26 PPG, it is not a problem

only because he has the most super stacked team of all time.. if he was back in cleveland or on a "slightly stacked" team we'd see big problems:confusedshrug:

[Black and White]

LeBron is the best player ever and certainly miles ahead of Kevin Durant.stay mad doe:applause: :applause:

:roll: :roll: :roll: You fail bro

[Marlo_Stanfield]

only because he has the most super stacked team of all time.. if he was back in cleveland or on a "slightly stacked" team we'd see big problems:confusedshrug:
the Heat arent stacked moron. most their players are washed up or in their late 30s. cant believe some people still calling the Heat stacked:wtf: :biggums:
Good yeah, stacked: hell no:coleman:

[Dizzle-2k7]

the Heat arent stacked moron.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Troll confirmed.

[Black and White]

the Heat arent stacked moron. most their players are washed up or in their late 30s. cant believe some people still calling the Heat stacked:wtf: :biggums:
Good yeah, stacked: hell no:coleman:

But they are still stacked though? Stacked enough to rest Dwyane Wade whenever they want

[Marlo_Stanfield]

But they are still stacked though? Stacked enough to rest Dwyane Wade whenever they want
and lose games because LeBron has to do everything in these games because Chalmers is not to be trusted, Bosh cant take over if his live depended on it and is only shooting jumpers and the rest are only three point shooters or old as fck.
Heat just arent stacked anymore and they werent last season either.
2012 they have a case for being stacked but so were the PAcers,Celtics and especially Thunder:coleman:

[Joyner82reload]

Irony being that players like Durant live off TS% and yet are still destroyed in that category by LeBron. Stings a bit, doesn't it?

If Durant keeps up his averages for the rest of the year

LeBron @ 25 29.7 ppg 60.3 TS%
Durant @ 25 32.0 ppg 62.7 TS%
LeBron 1st 7 seasons 27.8 ppg 56.2 TS%
Durant 1st 7 seasons 27.9 ppg 60.1 TS%
LeBron age 24-29 total prime/peak 27.6 ppg 61.1 TS%
Durant age 21-25 start of prime/pre peak 29.3 ppg 61.9 TS%

:coleman:

[Black and White]

and lose games because LeBron has to do everything in these games because Chalmers is not to be trusted, Bosh cant take over if his live depended on it and is only shooting jumpers and the rest are only three point shooters or old as fck.
Heat just arent stacked anymore and they werent last season either.
2012 they have a case for being stacked but so were the PAcers,Celtics and especially Thunder:coleman:

Didn't Bosh ice a few games this season???

[LeBron 06]

only because he has the most super stacked team of all time.. if he was back in cleveland or on a "slightly stacked" team we'd see big problems:confusedshrug:



You forget that LeBron led the cavs to 2 seasons of 60 wins with an average roster

Lebron will always do what it takes to win

[G-Funk]

I'm sure Durant is jealous of that stacked team.

[Dizzle-2k7]

You forget that LeBron led the cavs to 2 seasons of 60 wins with an average roster

Lebron will always do what it takes to win

im talking championship level type stuff. no doubt lebron could take even the garbage sixers or bobcats the 2nd or 3rd round.. but the Finals is where he'd be exposed with an average offensive arsenal (brute strength is not a skill)

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Didn't Bosh ice a few games this season???
lol he was great ONE game against Portland and was Clutch one more game were he rested himself the entire second half doing nothing.
hes clutch no doubt and i like him hes fcking hilarious but hes not a star anymore. he could provide the things the Heat need most like inside presence and rebounding and he just refuses to do so. if he does that again i will call him a star:coleman:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

im talking championship level type stuff. no doubt lebron could take even the garbage sixers or bobcats the 2nd or 3rd round.. but the Finals is where he'd be exposed with an average offensive arsenal (brute strength is not a skill)
:roll: :roll: :roll:
average offensive Arsenal??? Nikka please, this aint 2008 :biggums: :biggums:

[riseagainst]

the new class of Jan 2014 certainly full of gimmicks and trolls.

:roll:

[Smoke117]

Why would anyone want to go 14/34?

[Black and White]

lol he was great ONE game against Portland and was Clutch one more game were he rested himself the entire second half doing nothing.
hes clutch no doubt and i like him hes fcking hilarious but hes not a star anymore. he could provide the things the Heat need most like inside presence and rebounding and he just refuses to do so. if he does that again i will call him a star:coleman:

I'm sorry that you think that your opinion defines him as a star or not, the rest of the NBA will tell you he is still a star lol

[KirbyPls]

Tony Parker? :confusedshrug:

It's close over the last few, but I'd go Duncan, especially after game 6 and 7 last June.

[Black and White]

It's close over the last few, but I'd go Duncan, especially after game 6 and 7 last June.

There was about a 2 year stretch where Parker was the better player

[Marlo_Stanfield]

I'm sorry that you think that your opinion defines him as a star or not, the rest of the NBA will tell you he is still a star lol
a star that completely disappears for the last two rounds of the playoffs, gets absolutely abused on defense and scores zero points in a game 7.
lets not call him a star, lets call him a superstar already:applause: :applause:

[KirbyPls]

There was about a 2 year stretch where Parker was the better player

I disagree, since Duncan was so vital to the Spurs' defense, but I can see the argument.

[Black and White]

a star that completely disappears for the last two rounds of the playoffs, gets absolutely abused on defense and scores zero points in a game 7.
lets not call him a star, lets call him a superstar already:applause: :applause:

What strengths does Bosh possess? It's his offensive ability, it's kind of hard to maximise that when you have two ball-dominant players in LeBron and Wade.

[J Shuttlesworth]

LMAO at you resorting to internet rumors. Very pathetic , Durant35.

This is Tim Duncans current girlfriend. U mad? Ya u madddd

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Tim-Duncan-Girlfriend.jpg

U real maddddddd. Duncans got 4 rings as an anchor and a fineass girlfriend. U real maddddddd
Dayumn Duncan :applause:

[Joyner82reload]

I also don't think these LeBron stans realize LeBron's TS% is free-falling, while Durant's is going up. This is since the start of December

Durant 30.6 ppg 64.3 TS%
LeBron 25.8 ppg 65.8 TS%

OKC minus Durant is at 53.84 TS%
Miami minus LeBron is at 57.77 TS%

So technically Durant is averaging 29.6 ppg at 8.86 TS% above his team average
LeBron is averaging 26.0 at 9.43 TS% above his team average

So the difference in TS% is negligible. Meanwhile Durant's is increasing and LeBron's is going down.

THAT ETHER:durantunimpressed:

[Black and White]

I disagree, since Duncan was so vital to the Spurs' defense, but I can see the argument.

It's all good, it can go either way based on your preference. :cheers:

[riseagainst]

I also don't think these LeBron stans realize LeBron's TS% is free-falling, while Durant's is going up. This is since the start of December

Durant 30.6 ppg 64.3 TS%
LeBron 25.8 ppg 65.8 TS%

OKC minus Durant is at 53.84 TS%
Miami minus LeBron is at 57.77 TS%

So technically Durant is averaging 29.6 ppg at 8.86 TS% above his team average
LeBron is averaging 26.0 at 9.43 TS% above his team average

So the difference in TS% is negligible. Meanwhile Durant's is increasing and LeBron's is going down.

THAT ETHER:durantunimpressed:

:bowdown:

[Dizzle-2k7]

I also don't think these LeBron stans realize LeBron's TS% is free-falling, while Durant's is going up. This is since the start of December

Durant 30.6 ppg 64.3 TS%
LeBron 25.8 ppg 65.8 TS%

OKC minus Durant is at 53.84 TS%
Miami minus LeBron is at 57.77 TS%

So technically Durant is averaging 29.6 ppg at 8.86 TS% above his team average
LeBron is averaging 26.0 at 9.43 TS% above his team average

So the difference in TS% is negligible. Meanwhile Durant's is increasing and LeBron's is going down.

THAT ETHER:durantunimpressed:


:applause:

[Solefade]

But they are still stacked though? Stacked enough to rest Dwyane Wade whenever they want


It's a luxury Dwyane has when you have LeBron on your team. Considering the health and age of everyone on the Heat, they're def a top tier team but competitive with the rest of the top tier teams. They're not stacked. If you go by that logic then the Nets are the most stacked team ever and so were the 2013 Lakers.

[J Shuttlesworth]

I also don't think these LeBron stans realize LeBron's TS% is free-falling, while Durant's is going up. This is since the start of December

Durant 30.6 ppg 64.3 TS%
LeBron 25.8 ppg 65.8 TS%

OKC minus Durant is at 53.84 TS%
Miami minus LeBron is at 57.77 TS%

So technically Durant is averaging 29.6 ppg at 8.86 TS% above his team average
LeBron is averaging 26.0 at 9.43 TS% above his team average

So the difference in TS% is negligible. Meanwhile Durant's is increasing and LeBron's is going down.

THAT ETHER:durantunimpressed:
Lol Durant's TS is close to LeBron's because the refs send him to the line every 5 seconds. What's his FG%?

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Dayumn Duncan :applause:
that bish way hotter than Eva Longoria too:rockon:

[Black and White]

It's a luxury Dwyane has when you have LeBron on your team. Considering the health and age of everyone on the Heat, they're def a top tier team but competitive with the rest of the top tier teams. They're not stacked. If you go by that logic then the Nets are the most stacked team ever and so were the 2013 Lakers.

People WERE calling those teams stacked as well.

[KirbyPls]

It's all good, it can go either way based on your preference. :cheers:

:applause:

[Dizzle-2k7]

It's a luxury Dwyane has when you have LeBron on your team. Considering the health and age of everyone on the Heat, they're def a top tier team but competitive with the rest of the top tier teams. They're not stacked. If you go by that logic then the Nets are the most stacked team ever and so were the 2013 Lakers.

yea compare the heat (3 superstars in their prime) vs the nets (oldass kg, oldass pierce, injury prone dwill, injury prone lopez)..

or lakers (oldass kobe, OLDASS NASH, injury prone dwight)

LMAO. Scrub.

[J Shuttlesworth]

It's a luxury Dwyane has when you have LeBron on your team. Considering the health and age of everyone on the Heat, they're def a top tier team but competitive with the rest of the top tier teams. They're not stacked. If you go by that logic then the Nets are the most stacked team ever and so were the 2013 Lakers.
Exactly. It's not like if you put KD on the Heat instead of LeBron, then Wade would be able to rest every other game. Who would run point guard? Chalmers/Cole? :lol

[KirbyPls]

Lol Durant's TS is close to LeBron's because the refs send him to the line every 5 seconds. What's his FG%?

:applause:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Lol Durant's TS is close to LeBron's because the refs send him to the line every 5 seconds. What's his FG%?
a pathetic <50%, thats what his FG percentage is. and thats with getting bailed out on missed shots with foul calls:no:

[J Shuttlesworth]

People WERE calling those teams stacked as well.
So stacked is an irrelevant term than right? The "stacked" Lakers barely made the playoffs. Why should it matter if a team is stacked or not?

[Marlo_Stanfield]

yea compare the heat (3 superstars in their prime) vs the nets (oldass kg, oldass pierce, injury prone dwill, injury prone lopez)..

or lakers (oldass kobe, OLDASS NASH, injury prone dwight)

LMAO. Scrub.
Superstars in their prime:roll: :roll: :roll: :wtf: :biggums:

[J Shuttlesworth]

yea compare the heat (3 superstars in their prime) vs the nets (oldass kg, oldass pierce, injury prone dwill, injury prone lopez)..

or lakers (oldass kobe, OLDASS NASH, injury prone dwight)

LMAO. Scrub.
Those two superstars in their prime (Wade/Bosh)... were they really playing at a superstar level in the playoffs? And you're really trying to say Wade is in his prime? :roll:

[JebronLames]

yea compare the heat (3 superstars in their prime) vs the nets (oldass kg, oldass pierce, injury prone dwill, injury prone lopez)..

or lakers (oldass kobe, OLDASS NASH, injury prone dwight)

LMAO. Scrub.
Only lebron is in his prime out of those three.

[Black and White]

So stacked is an irrelevant term than right? The "stacked" Lakers barely made the playoffs. Why should it matter if a team is stacked or not?

Kobe was injured tho??? Pau and Nash were both getting injured?? Dwight was injured?? Whats your point?

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Kobe was injured tho??? Pau and Nash were both getting injured?? Dwight was injured?? Whats your point?
Dwayne Wade was injured for 2 straight years:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Black and White]

Dwayne Wade was injured for 2 straight years:roll: :roll: :roll:

How would the Heat do if LeBron, Bosh and Wade were all injured??? Thats what happened to the Lakers.

[Solefade]

People WERE calling those teams stacked as well.

From what I saw, people were saying Heat are the "most stacked team in the league" then started name dropping Greg Oden, Ray Allen, Beasley, etc. :lol

[Solefade]

How would the Heat do if LeBron, Bosh and Wade were all injured??? Thats what happened to the Lakers.

Pretty sure Lebron would still take them out of the first round of the playoffs at least and would definitely not get swept in the first round lol (he's already proved this in Cleveland).

[Black and White]

From what I saw, people were saying Heat are the "most stacked team in the league" then started name dropping Greg Oden, Ray Allen, Beasley, etc. :lol

I disagree with the name dropping, those players are players nobody wanted (except Ray Allen)

[Solefade]

yea compare the heat (3 superstars in their prime) vs the nets (oldass kg, oldass pierce, injury prone dwill, injury prone lopez)..

or lakers (oldass kobe, OLDASS NASH, injury prone dwight)

LMAO. Scrub.


Didn't you mention Ray Allen who is older than all of those guys? Then you mentioned Lewis and Beasley :lol



only applies when it follows your agenda. typical kobetard.

[Black and White]

Pretty sure Lebron would still take them out of the first round of the playoffs at least and would definitely not get swept in the first round lol (he's already proved this in Cleveland).

Thats not answering my question, I said if LeBron, Wade and Bosh were injured

[J Shuttlesworth]

How would the Heat do if LeBron, Bosh and Wade were all injured??? Thats what happened to the Lakers.
Oh please. Even when they were all playing, that team sucked. The Lakers had no chemistry partially due to kobe, mostly due to d'antoni. Even before Kobe tore his achilles, the refs had to gift them into the playoffs by screwing over GSW

[Marlo_Stanfield]

How would the Heat do if LeBron, Bosh and Wade were all injured??? Thats what happened to the Lakers.
no one on the Lakers is on brons level tho.
and Kobe got injured only 2 or 3 games left the season and they were in danger missing the playoffs with him too.
if Wade and bosh would miss 30 games each the Heat would still win at least 50 games i think more like 55-60. especially if they get injured for one straight period each because LeBron and the other players could adjust better. now they sit out wade here and there and it always fcks up the chemistry:coleman:

[Solefade]

Thats not answering my question, I said if LeBron, Wade and Bosh were injured


Ah I read that wrong, but I don't think it mattered cus even when they were playing together they still never had any flashes of dominance. It was definitely a chemistry/ego thing.

[Black and White]

Oh please. Even when they were all playing, that team sucked. The Lakers had no chemistry partially due to kobe, mostly due to d'antoni. Even before Kobe tore his achilles, the refs had to gift them into the playoffs by screwing over GSW

So you are going to fault the team because of the coach? What happened to the Lakers is a completely different situation to the Heat.

[Black and White]

Ah I read that wrong, but I don't think it mattered cus even when they were playing together they still never had any flashes of dominance. It was definitely a chemistry/ego thing.

It was a Mike D'Antoni thing, but yea they had issues.

[Black and White]

no one on the Lakers is on brons level tho.
and Kobe got injured only 2 or 3 games left the season and they were in danger missing the playoffs with him too.
if Wade and bosh would miss 30 games each the Heat would still win at least 50 games i think more like 55-60. especially if they get injured for one straight period each because LeBron and the other players could adjust better. now they sit out wade here and there and it always fcks up the chemistry:coleman:

:facepalm Who would play in the post? Joel Anthony? Udonis?

Kobe was as important to that teams success as LeBron is to the Heat right now.

[Joyner82reload]

Lol Durant's TS is close to LeBron's because the refs send him to the line every 5 seconds. What's his FG%?

Who's ready for some more absolute ether?

Taking out fast break dunks/layups, which LeBron has an absurd 91 of so far this year, LeBron's TS% plummets to 64.5%

Taking out fast breaks dunks/layups, which Durant only has 61 of so far this year, Durant's TS% still stays a very respectable 62.1%.

Taking out fast break all shot attempts and technical fouls
LeBron James has been attempted 263 FT's and 463 FG's. 1.76 FG's per FT attempt
Kevin Durant has attempted 350 FT's and 621 FG's. 1.77 FG's per FT attempt

Summary: LeBron James is actually going to the free throw line at a higher rate than Kevin Durant in the half court

:lebronamazed:

[J Shuttlesworth]

So you are going to fault the team because of the coach? What happened to the Lakers is a completely different situation to the Heat.
Both teams were stacked with talent. They are different situations, but similar amount of talent. What's their (Lakers) excuse for performing so poorly even when everyone was healthy? They had an undoubtedly stacked roster, and lost to scrub teams with all 4 stars playing. At least the Heat were able to make 2 rings out of their stacked team

[Marlo_Stanfield]

:facepalm Who would play in the post? Joel Anthony? Udonis?

Kobe was as important to that teams success as LeBron is to the Heat right now.
okay now i know why u never talk about the Celtics. u are a kobetard after all:coleman:

[Solefade]

Who's ready for some more absolute ether?

Taking out fast break dunks/layups, which LeBron has an absurd 91 of so far this year, LeBron's TS% plummets to 64.5%

Taking out fast breaks dunks/layups, which Durant only has 61 of so far this year, Durant's TS% still stays a very respectable 62.1%.

Taking out fast break all shot attempts and technical fouls
LeBron James has been attempted 263 FT's and 463 FG's. 1.76 FG's per FT attempt
Kevin Durant has attempted 350 FT's and 621 FG's. 1.77 FG's per FT attempt

Summary: LeBron James is actually going to the free throw line at a higher rate than Kevin Durant in the half court

:lebronamazed:



lol cus assists and overall offensive impact are totally irrelevant

[Black and White]

okay now i know why u never talk about the Celtics. u are a kobetard after all:coleman:

I'm not a Kobetard, I'm just saying that he was on LeBron's level of importance to his team, look at the minutes he was playing before he got injured.

[Black and White]

Both teams were stacked with talent. They are different situations, but similar amount of talent. What's their (Lakers) excuse for performing so poorly even when everyone was healthy? They had an undoubtedly stacked roster, and lost to scrub teams with all 4 stars playing. At least the Heat were able to make 2 rings out of their stacked team

Mike D'Antoni

[Joyner82reload]

lol cus assists and overall offensive impact are totally irrelevant

5.4 APG to 1.9 TO/g for Durant since Westbrook went down: 2.84 A-TO ratio
6.5 APG to 3.5 TO/g for LeBron this year: 1.85 A-TO ratio

:roll:

Durant on the year to date: 4.9 APG, off the ball, on a team that averages 21.8 APG. Durant's averaging 23% of OKC's assists.
LeBron on the year to date: 6.5 APG, primary ball handler, on a team that averages 23.5 APG. LeBron's averaging 27.7% of OKC's assists.
Durant on the year to date is averaging 3.0 TO/g on a team that is averaging 15.2 TO/g 19.7%
LeBron on the year to date is averaging 3.5 TO/g on a team that is averaging 14.6 TO/g 23.9%

Dividing Assist% by TO% and you get this stat

Durant 1.17% AST-TO% above team average
LeBron 1.16% AST-TO% above team average

Durant has a higher AST-TO ratio relative to his team AVERAGE

It's a wrap folks. It's an absolute wrap. Lock it up

[Solefade]

Mike D'Antoni


Honestly it's not fair to blame it all on MDA. Kobe contributed to their lack of chemistry because he wanted the rest of the superstars to accommodate to Kobe ball. You see Lebron, Wade, and especially Bosh sacrificed their typical style of play the first year they were together to "try to make it work". You didn't really see that with the 2013 Lakers.

[BigMacAttack]

Who's ready for some more absolute ether?

Taking out fast break dunks/layups, which LeBron has an absurd 91 of so far this year, LeBron's TS% plummets to 64.5%

Taking out fast breaks dunks/layups, which Durant only has 61 of so far this year, Durant's TS% still stays a very respectable 62.1%.

Taking out fast break all shot attempts and technical fouls
LeBron James has been attempted 263 FT's and 463 FG's. 1.76 FG's per FT attempt
Kevin Durant has attempted 350 FT's and 621 FG's. 1.77 FG's per FT attempt

Summary: LeBron James is actually going to the free throw line at a higher rate than Kevin Durant in the half court

:lebronamazed:


Gods son is in the building everyone :bowdown: .

[russwest0]

I wonder if Durant is jealous of Brans 25pt games? :lol :lol :lol

[LeBron 06]

5.4 APG to 1.9 TO/g for Durant since Westbrook went down: 2.84 A-TO ratio
6.5 APG to 3.5 TO/g for LeBron this year: 1.85 A-TO ratio

:roll:


The thunder have a losing record without Westbrook since last year...KD can't win with scrubs like LeBron in Cleveland

[J Shuttlesworth]

I wonder if Durant is jealous of Brans 25pt games? :lol :lol :lol
Considering they led to championships, and considering he has an analyst to study LeBron's stats, I'd say yes.

[KirbyPls]

The thunder have a losing record without Westbrook since last year...KD can't win with scrubs like LeBron in Cleveland

:lol :applause:

[Joyner82reload]

The thunder have a losing record without Westbrook since last year...KD can't win with scrubs like LeBron in Cleveland

KD without Westbrook this year 5-4
LeBron without Wade this year 4-5
Wade without LeBron this year 1-0

Wrap it up folks, wrap it up.

[LeBron 06]

KD without Westbrook this year 5-4
LeBron without Wade this year 4-5
Wade without LeBron this year 1-0

Wrap it up folks, wrap it up.


since 2012.....The heat without Wade...29-10....The thunder without Westbrook.....8-10:lol

[Solefade]

5.4 APG to 1.9 TO/g for Durant since Westbrook went down: 2.84 A-TO ratio
6.5 APG to 3.5 TO/g for LeBron this year: 1.85 A-TO ratio

:roll:

Durant on the year to date: 4.9 APG, off the ball, on a team that averages 21.8 APG. Durant's averaging 23% of OKC's assists.
LeBron on the year to date: 6.5 APG, primary ball handler, on a team that averages 23.5 APG. LeBron's averaging 27.7% of OKC's assists.
Durant on the year to date is averaging 3.0 TO/g on a team that is averaging 15.2 TO/g 19.7%
LeBron on the year to date is averaging 3.5 TO/g on a team that is averaging 14.6 TO/g 23.9%

Dividing Assist% by TO% and you get this stat

Durant 1.17% AST-TO% above team average
LeBron 1.16% AST-TO% above team average

Durant has a higher AST-TO ratio relative to his team AVERAGE

It's a wrap folks. It's an absolute wrap. Lock it up

you're posting these shitty arbitrary stats of KD w/o WB but what does it really matter if OKC isn't a contender without WB?

[Black and White]

Honestly it's not fair to blame it all on MDA. Kobe contributed to their lack of chemistry because he wanted the rest of the superstars to accommodate to Kobe ball. You see Lebron, Wade, and especially Bosh sacrificed their typical style of play the first year they were together to "try to make it work". You didn't really see that with the 2013 Lakers.

It's MDA's call to accomodate Dwight and Pau more, the Lakers had that as a strength but D'Antoni's coaching style just doesn't suit 2 big men who play better in a half court setting. I admit that Heat found a way to make it work tho, it required Wade and Bosh to take a step back.

[Solefade]

Considering they led to championships, and considering he has an analyst to study LeBron's stats, I'd say yes.


:lol :lol

[TheMarkMadsen]

When asked about Lebron's comments here's what KD had to say

"I'm jelous that I have to take 30 shots, if I could take 10 shots and my team didn't really need my offense, that'd be great, but we are in two totally different situations, my team isn't beating the best team in the league record wise with me in a suit.."

[Prometheus]

this thread sucks. nice going OP

[Solefade]

It's MDA's call to accomodate Dwight and Pau more, the Lakers had that as a strength but D'Antoni's coaching style just doesn't suit 2 big men who play better in a half court setting. I admit that Heat found a way to make it work tho, it required Wade and Bosh to take a step back.


True but the pieces that the Lakers had are way more fitting than two ball dominant players and a jump shooting big man and still eventually worked out. Just saying there's not a lot of compromise-to-make-it-work going on in Kobeland.

[Prometheus]

When asked about Lebron's comments here's what KD had to say

"I'm jelous that I have to take 30 shots, if I could take 10 shots and my team didn't really need my offense, that'd be great, but we are in two totally different situations, my team isn't beating the best team in the league record wise with me in a suit.."

I know you made that up but I still :lol

[Good Ol JR]

you're posting these shitty arbitrary stats of KD w/o WB but what does it really matter if OKC isn't a contender without WB?


are those stats for KD w/o WB or is that KD's stats for this current season so far b/c the post you quoted was discussing AST & TO's

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Considering they led to championships, and considering he has an analyst to study LeBron's stats, I'd say yes.
got damn :lol :lol

[G-Funk]

KD without Westbrook this year 5-4
LeBron without Wade this year 4-5
Wade without LeBron this year 1-0

Wrap it up folks, wrap it up.

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/owned-50449.jpg

[Black and White]

this thread sucks. nice going OP

Then why are you posting in it?

[Black and White]

True but the pieces that the Lakers had are way more fitting than two ball dominant players and a jump shooting big man and still eventually worked out. Just saying there's not a lot of compromise-to-make-it-work going on in Kobeland.

Yea but most of that falls on the coach, Dwight was a diva in LA, I think that if Phil was coaching there would have been more synergy being able to slow the game down and work the ball through the bigs.

[BasedTom]

Nobody is going to complain if the best player in the world decides to take more than 12 shots a night. It bothers me when he statpads and refuses to play aggressively at times, since we all know he could put a crazy and dominating performance.

As of now, Durant is the MVP. I expect it to change, but right now Lebron is shamelessly coasting

[Joyner82reload]

More? You want more?

LeBron without Wade 26.0 ppg 5.1 rpg 6.8 apg 3.2 TOV 62.5 TS% 4-5 record
Durant without Westbrook 34.2 ppg 8.6 rpg 5.4 apg 1.9 TOV 62.6 TS% 5-4 record

Even better. Out of Durant's 9 games, 6 of them were against teams with winning records or currently in the playoffs. Out of LeBron's 9 games, just look at this murder's row.

Brooklyn
Toronto
Sacramento
Atlanta
Detroit
Chicago
Detroit
Philly
Orlando

:roll:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Nobody is going to complain in the best player in the world decides to take more than 12 shots a night. It bothers me when he statpads and refuses to play aggressively at times, since we all know he could put a crazy and dominating performance.

As of now, Durant is the MVP. I expect it to change, but right now Lebron is shamelessly coasting

there's a big difference between coasting and just simply not having to do as much as other stars in order for your team to win regular season games..

the latter of which is what Lebron has the advantage of doing.

Yeah, when you see a guy like KD or Melo literally have to carry their team, take 25 shots to get 28 point b/c nobody else on the team can create a good look, while at the same time trying to create a few looks for their teammates to try and get them in some sort of rhythm in the process, it's an exhausting task to handle..

so when you watch those guys and the watch a HEAT game and you see Lebron selectively picking his shots, passing up on good looks, standing on the baseline just moving the ball around, getting great looks off cuts since the defense can't double due to the players around him..these are all things guys like Melo & KD don't have the benefit of doing b/c of the lack of talent around them..so yeah, it looks like a guy like KD is "trying harder" because he has too, but then again this is what Lebron wanted, he wanted it to be easy, and then he gets a little salty when another player is putting up big numbers..

guess what Lebron, nobody is going to question you if take 30+ shots the next 10 games..

He left a situation where he put up big stats in order to make winning easier, now that winning is coming easy he's getting restless that he's not putting up these godly stat lines anymore and another player is..Make up your mind on who you wanna be as an NBA player Lebron..

[Black and White]

More? You want more?

LeBron without Wade 26.0 ppg 5.1 rpg 6.8 apg 3.2 TOV 62.5 TS% 4-5 record
Durant without Westbrook 34.2 ppg 8.6 rpg 5.4 apg 1.9 TOV 62.6 TS% 5-4 record

Even better. Out of Durant's 9 games, 6 of them were against teams with winning records or currently in the playoffs. Out of LeBron's 9 games, just look at this murder's row.

Brooklyn
Toronto
Sacramento
Atlanta
Detroit
Chicago
Detroit
Philly
Orlando

:roll:

Oh wow, you are quicky becoming the best from this new draft class :cheers:

[Joyner82reload]

since 2012.....The heat without Wade...29-10....The thunder without Westbrook.....8-10:lol

I'm pretty sure this is 2013-14 season kiddo, not 2011-current. This is literally Kobe:LeBron circa 08-10 all over again.

Hurr Durr Kobe's 5 rings>LeBron's 2, he's clearly a better player. :facepalm

[Soundwave]

Wade misses games all the time, I'm sure he could shoot a lot in those games at least. Not really buying it.

Getting 30 shots off in an NBA game contrary to popular belief is pretty difficult.

[LeBron 06]

More? You want more?

LeBron without Wade 26.0 ppg 5.1 rpg 6.8 apg 3.2 TOV 62.5 TS% 4-5 record
Durant without Westbrook 34.2 ppg 8.6 rpg 5.4 apg 1.9 TOV 62.6 TS% 5-4 record

Even better. Out of Durant's 9 games, 6 of them were against teams with winning records or currently in the playoffs. Out of LeBron's 9 games, just look at this murder's row.

Brooklyn
Toronto
Sacramento
Atlanta
Detroit
Chicago
Detroit
Philly
Orlando

:roll:


Since 2012...the heat without Wade,29-10...The thunder without Westbrook,8-10


LeBron won 66 and 61 games with a average roster in Cleveland


KD has not proven he can win consistently without Westbrook

[Joyner82reload]

are those stats for KD w/o WB or is that KD's stats for this current season so far b/c the post you quoted was discussing AST & TO's

The team averages, where Durant has a better ratio is for the ENTIRE season. LOL @ this goon

[20Four]

This


LOL at this *****! Get off leBRONZE nuts....he was BRONZE until kobe joined the team... :roll: :roll:

[LeBron 06]

I'm pretty sure this is 2013-14 season kiddo, not 2011-current. This is literally Kobe:LeBron circa 08-10 all over again.

Hurr Durr Kobe's 5 rings>LeBron's 2, he's clearly a better player. :facepalm
other years count too

[Black and White]

other years count too

Ok then, count the 2011 NBA finals then

[Lebron23]

Lebron is the 3rd all time leading scorer in the NBA at 27.5 ppg right behind Michael Jordan and Wilt chamberlain ( at 30.1 ppg). He did averaged over 30 ppg twice with the Cleveland Cavaliers. And one of those few NBA player who averaged 39.8 ppg in a playoffs series.

[Joyner82reload]

Since 2012...the heat without Wade,29-10...The thunder without Westbrook,8-10


LeBron won 66 and 61 games with a average roster in Cleveland


KD has not proven he can win consistently without Westbrook

This year:
Durant with Westbrook 5-4 including playoff 6 playoff teams/.500 or above
Durant without Westbrook 23-5 playing the 4th toughest schedule in the league
LeBron with Wade 4-5 playing the bottom of the league
LeBron without Wade 23-5 playing the 27th toughest schedule in the league

[Lebron23]

LOL at this *****! Get off leBRONZE nuts....he was BRONZE until kobe joined the team... :roll: :roll:

Lebron was Team USA's best player in 2008. He was benched by Larry Brown in the 2004 Olympics. Brown also benched Wade, Melo, and Bosh.

I blamed Duncan, and Iverson because they were the leaders of that team.

[LeBron 06]

Ok then, count the 2011 NBA finals then


The 2011 nba finals matter, as its 4 mvp and 2 FMVP

[Joyner82reload]

All they have left at this point is buh, buh, buh what about the past. Durant is the now, LeBron is the past. Deal with it.

[LeBron 06]

This year:
Durant with Westbrook 5-4 including playoff 6 playoff teams/.500 or above
Durant without Westbrook 23-5 playing the 4th toughest schedule in the league
LeBron with Wade 4-5 playing the bottom of the league
LeBron without Wade 23-5 playing the 27th toughest schedule in the league


:facepalm

The others years count too

[Lebron23]

Gonna BUmp this thread after LBJ out plays Durant again, and LBj steals his MVP in the 2nd half of the season.

[LeBron 06]

All they have left at this point is buh, buh, buh what about the past. Durant is the now, LeBron is the past. Deal with it.


:lol

[IGOTGAME]

He wasn't jealous when he was pouting about help before leaving Cleveland.

[Solefade]

More? You want more?

LeBron without Wade 26.0 ppg 5.1 rpg 6.8 apg 3.2 TOV 62.5 TS% 4-5 record
Durant without Westbrook 34.2 ppg 8.6 rpg 5.4 apg 1.9 TOV 62.6 TS% 5-4 record

Even better. Out of Durant's 9 games, 6 of them were against teams with winning records or currently in the playoffs. Out of LeBron's 9 games, just look at this murder's row.

Brooklyn
Toronto
Sacramento
Atlanta
Detroit
Chicago
Detroit
Philly
Orlando

:roll:


wait wait, you're actually trying to say the guy that is forever-2nd place is better than bron? KD probably has a better case for MVP this season thus far but if you're insinuating anything else beyond that then you are wrong sir.

[TheReturn]

Typical pot meet kettle situation. Everyone's picking sample sizes to fit their agenda.

As for the point made in the OP, I can imagine him being jealous of that. However, I think his 2 championships outweigh that.

[Lebron23]

Typical pot meet kettle situation. Everyone's picking sample sizes to fit their agenda.

As for the point made in the OP, I can imagine him being jealous of that. However, I think his 2 championships outweigh that.


and 4 regular season MVP's.

[LeBron 06]

The current Durant can't win without Westbrook

And 21 years old LeBron(31-7-7) is better than the currant Durant

[Trollsmasher]

Someone should probably show Joyner the Thunder's upcoming schedule. Those 8 losses coming in the next two weeks will shut him up:lol

[TheMarkMadsen]

The current Durant can't win without Westbrook

And 21 years old LeBron(31-7-7) is better than the currant Durant


missed the playoffs..

empty stats are empty

[CNNonceAgain]

LeBron fans are using Kobe fan logic from 08-10 and Durant fans are now LeBron fans from 08-10. Same arguments, same situations, different variables. Kobe is now the aging megastar about to take his exist as LeBron begins to see the end of his peak. It's awesome, but this means the new Durant is either in the league already or just about to hit it.

[Black and White]

The current Durant can't win without Westbrook

And 21 years old LeBron(31-7-7) is better than the currant Durant

I would like to see them go at it. That LeBron vs. current Durant.

[20Four]

Lebron was Team USA's best player in 2008. He was benched by Larry Brown in the 2004 Olympics. Brown also benched Wade, Melo, and Bosh.

I blamed Duncan, and Iverson because they were the leaders of that team.


LOL hahahahah this foo cracks me up....I wouldn't be surprised if you saw lebron you would get on your knees and suck him off......

Does the "best" player in the league have to resort to this??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZpGKC62qvs

While kobe does this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUdLLdR8Pow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7e4a9EFDjg

Look at lebron get tossed like the bitch he is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OkCKMksZOo

[KevinDurant35]

I'm glad to see Joyner back in full force. I really like this guy. :applause:

[LeBron 06]

missed the playoffs..

empty stats are empty


The cavs had 50-32 in 2006 and they almost beat the 64 wins pistons in the playoffs

[TheReturn]

and 4 regular season MVP's.
Actually he'd probably get more consideration for MVPs if he'd take 30 shots a game.

[BasedTom]

there's a big difference between coasting and just simply not having to do as much as other stars in order for your team to win regular season games..

the latter of which is what Lebron has the advantage of doing.

Yeah, when you see a guy like KD or Melo literally have to carry their team, take 25 shots to get 28 point b/c nobody else on the team can create a good look, while at the same time trying to create a few looks for their teammates to try and get them in some sort of rhythm in the process, it's an exhausting task to handle..

so when you watch those guys and the watch a HEAT game and you see Lebron selectively picking his shots, passing up on good looks, standing on the baseline just moving the ball around, getting great looks off cuts since the defense can't double due to the players around him..these are all things guys like Melo & KD don't have the benefit of doing b/c of the lack of talent around them..so yeah, it looks like a guy like KD is "trying harder" because he has too, but then again this is what Lebron wanted, he wanted it to be easy.
I agree with your points, but there are more and more games these days where Wade isn't playing or where Bosh and the bench aren't hitting the shots they usually make. In these situations, Lebron sometimes doesn't quite adjust his game to the new burden he has of carrying the team by himself that night.

The wear and tear of the regular season is another factor. Even though Lebron seems superhuman and exempt from the rule I can understand why he doesn't want to go full gawd mode. It still would be amazing to watch though. Those days are probably behind him.

[TheMarkMadsen]

The cavs had 50-32 in 2006 and they almost beat the 64 wins pistons


i always think 21 YO Lebron is 2nd year Lebron.

my mistake

[Black and White]

The cavs had 50-32 in 2006 and they almost beat the 64 wins pistons

That LeBron was a streaky shooter at best, current Durant outclasses him in that respect

[Joyner82reload]

Yes, can we please talk about these career Finals scoring stats. I would LOVE to

LeBron 23.1 ppg 42.5 FG% 27.4 3P% 70.1 FT%
Durant 30.6 ppg 54.8 FG% 39.4 3P% 83.9 FT

:bowdown:

[Lebron23]

LOL hahahahah this foo cracks me up....I wouldn't be surprised if you saw lebron you would get on your knees and suck him off......

Does the "best" player in the league have to resort to this??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZpGKC62qvs

While kobe does this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUdLLdR8Pow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7e4a9EFDjg

Look at lebron get tossed like the bitch he is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OkCKMksZOo

I am sure you would let Kobe penetrate your inner B*tthole.. LBJ already surpassed your hero.

[Black and White]

Yes, can we please talk about these career Finals scoring stats. I would LOVE to

LeBron 23.1 ppg 42.5 FG% 27.4 3P% 70.1 FT%
Durant 30.6 ppg 54.8 FG% 39.4 3P% 83.9 FT

:bowdown:

:biggums: damn no wonder the Spurs let him shoot

[Lebron23]

Yes, can we please talk about these career Finals scoring stats. I would LOVE to

LeBron 23.1 ppg 42.5 FG% 27.4 3P% 70.1 FT%
Durant 30.6 ppg 54.8 FG% 39.4 3P% 83.9 FT

:bowdown:


You even downgraded his stats. 23.4 ppg on 45 FG%. And LBJ with 2 finals MVP >>> ringless, and no defense durant.

LBJ also had better all around numbers in their finals match up. And 4-1

That's the most important stats.

[Joyner82reload]

The current Durant can't win without Westbrook

And 21 years old LeBron(31-7-7) is better than the currant Durant

42.5 MPG. Just LOL. Per 36

LeBron 26.5 ppg 6.0 rpg 5.6 apg 2.8 to/g 56.8 TS% 115 ORTG 104 DRTG 28.1 PER .232 WSp48

Durant 28.4 ppg 7.8 rpg 4.7 apg 2.8 to/g 62.7 TS% 123 ORTG 99 DRTG 29.9 PER .318 WSp48

Just stop LeBron tots, just stop

[LeBron 06]

Yes, can we please talk about these career Finals scoring stats. I would LOVE to

LeBron 23.1 ppg 42.5 FG% 27.4 3P% 70.1 FT%
Durant 30.6 ppg 54.8 FG% 39.4 3P% 83.9 FT

:bowdown:


empty stats

[20Four]

empty stats


Not as empty as your head

[Joyner82reload]

You even downgraded his stats. 23.4 ppg on 45 FG%. And LBJ with 2 finals MVP >>> ringless, and no defense durant.

LBJ also had better all around numbers in their finals match up. And 4-1

That's the most important stats.

Kobe 5 rings>>>LeBron 2 rings

Dealwithit.

[20Four]

LOL hahahahah this foo cracks me up....I wouldn't be surprised if you saw lebron you would get on your knees and suck him off......

Does the "best" player in the league have to resort to this??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZpGKC62qvs

While kobe does this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUdLLdR8Pow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7e4a9EFDjg

Look at lebron get tossed like the bitch he is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OkCKMksZOo

[Lebron23]

:biggums: damn no wonder the Spurs let him shoot


he posted a BS stats.I don't think that dude is joyner82. Joyner is smarter than that clown.

[LeBron 06]

Not as empty as your head


You deserve to be banned with this unnecessary comment

[Lebron23]

LOL hahahahah this foo cracks me up....I wouldn't be surprised if you saw lebron you would get on your knees and suck him off......

Does the "best" player in the league have to resort to this??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZpGKC62qvs

While kobe does this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUdLLdR8Pow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7e4a9EFDjg

Look at lebron get tossed like the bitch he is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OkCKMksZOo


13-6

Career Head to Head Match up.

[Black and White]

he posted a BS stats.I don't think that dude is joyner82. Joyner is smarter than that clown.

I don't remember LeBron being that bad

[CNNonceAgain]

LOL hahahahah this foo cracks me up....I wouldn't be surprised if you saw lebron you would get on your knees and suck him off......

Does the "best" player in the league have to resort to this??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZpGKC62qvs

While kobe does this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUdLLdR8Pow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7e4a9EFDjg

Look at lebron get tossed like the bitch he is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OkCKMksZOo

I definitely just saw you wondering why another user brought up Kobe and then attacking them for it in a different thread. :coleman:

[MP.Trey]

This thread is 15+ pages? This site man I swear. :oldlol:

Without reading. I bet Lebron23's on every page. :oldlol:

[Lebron23]

Kobe 5 rings>>>LeBron 2 rings

Dealwithit.


Stop pretending that you are joyner82. Joyner hates Kobe.

[Joyner82reload]

Stop pretending that you are joyner82. Joyner hates Kobe.

First off, I've never hated Kobe. Secondly, I'm just using the exact same argument against LeBron than you're using against Durant.

[Lebron23]

I don't remember LeBron being that bad


Lebron James

22 games - 23.4 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 7.0 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.6 bpg, 3.8 to, 44.7 FG%,
73.7 FT%, 51.8 TS%


Kobe Bryant

37 games - 25.3 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.1 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.9 bpg, 3.3 to, 41.2 FG%, 84.8 FT%, 50.7 TS%

I think Lebron is going to improve his career NBA Finals stats if the Heat advance in the NBA Finals again.

[Black and White]

Lebron James

22 games - 23.4 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 7.0 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.6 bpg, 3.8 to, 44.7 FG%,
73.7 FT%, 51.8 TS%


Kobe Bryant

37 games - 25.3 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 5.1 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.9 bpg, 3.3 to, 41.2 FG%, 84.8 FT%, 50.7 TS%

I think Lebron is going to improve his career NBA Finals stats if the Heat advance in the NBA Finals again.

Not bad, but he would have had much better stats if he played better in 2011 and the first 6 games against the Spurs, sometimes I just wish he was more aggressive. He has the ability to take over.

[Bandito]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200905200CLE.html

game 1 :confusedshrug:
49 pts on 60%? That's crazy...

[Joyner82reload]

49 pts on 60%? That's crazy...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201105170DAL.html

48 on 80% was better
Also I think im done in this thread, I've sent these LeBronites into nuclear meltdown mode. Every single argument absolute oboliterated

[Solefade]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201105170DAL.html

48 on 80% was better


with half of the pts from free throws :lol :lol :lol

yeah ok.

[LeBron 06]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266402


:roll: :lol

[Joyner82reload]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266402


:roll: :lol

2012, still bringing up the past :roll:

[LeBron 06]

2012, still bringing up the past :roll:


The problem, it's been many years since you say that KD is better than LeBron, but you have never been right

[Trollsmasher]

Joyner getting destroyed:lol

[Joyner82reload]

Joyner getting destroyed:lol

just wait until i hit 100 posts and can make a thread. what is coming will make lebron's fans tears rain.

[RighteousMax]

The problem, it's been many years since you say that KD is better than LeBron, but you have never been right
Give Kevin Durant Lebron's team.

[Uncle Drew]

just wait until i hit 100 posts and can make a thread. what is coming will make lebron's fans tears rain.
Please don't. We're loaded with shit threads already.

[KendrickPerkins]

Lebron with the same numbers of Finals MVP as Timothy Duncan.
:wtf:

And then follows it up with this...


after this season.
Rice boy, just stop, k?

[Solefade]

Give Kevin Durant Lebron's team.


KD had Harden, WB, Ibaka and Lebron had an injured Wade and Bosh in 2012 and still lost in 5. What point are you trying to make? :confusedshrug:

[LeBron 06]

just wait until i hit 100 posts and can make a thread. what is coming will make lebron's fans tears rain.


like that:lol


http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=266402

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=229373

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=287145

[longtime lurker]

Lebron is too worried about hurting his percentages to take 30 shots. What a passive aggressive statement to say. I remember Wade said something similar about Kobe. These guys are really showing their beta male mentality

[CarryMeShaq]

He'll avg 40ppg if he takes 30 shots on a regular basis.

D-Wade and Bosh holding LeGoat back just like Kobe held Shaq and Gasol back.:facepalm

[Black and White]

He'll avg 40ppg if he takes 30 shots on a regular basis.

D-Wade and Bosh holding LeGoat back just like Kobe held Shaq and Gasol back.:facepalm

This will be the quickest ban in ISH history.

[Milbuck]

He'll avg 40ppg if he takes 30 shots on a regular basis.

D-Wade and Bosh holding LeGoat back just like Kobe held Shaq and Gasol back.:facepalm

:oldlol: What an awful start

http://www.trbimg.com/img-51c144bd/turbine/lat-heat-spurs-finals-wre0010067477-20130618/600

It's so strange, you'd think a guy who could easily average 40ppg wouldn't underperform in 3/4 finals series.

[coin24]

Maybe if he didnt team up like a pus5y Bran could score more:oldlol:

[CarryMeShaq]

Maybe if he didnt team up like a pus5y Bran could score more:oldlol:

Like how Dwight, Nash and Kobe teamed up and came up short?:roll:

Kobe's reaching for the scoring record like the only sad thing he has left in the world. No more rings, no more contending, no more playoffs.:applause:

[Milbuck]

Like how Dwight, Nash and Kobe teamed up and came up short?:roll:

Kobe's reaching for the scoring record like the only sad thing he has left in the world. No more rings, no more contending, no more playoffs.:applause:

:roll: what a dumb***

Comparing post-back surgery Dwight and 39 year old Nash to prime Wade and Bosh?

Go watch some MJ finals tapes and cry yourself to sleep

[KendrickPerkins]

He could've been doing the exact same shit with the Cavs right now. :oldlol: The hell is he saying this now for? Fcking LeShortcut. :oldlol:

[coin24]

He'll avg 40ppg if he takes 30 shots on a regular basis.

D-Wade and Bosh holding LeGoat back just like Kobe held Shaq and Gasol back.:facepalm


More like how your mum CarriedARetard and gave birth to a loser with multiple alts on a forum...

[CarryMeShaq]

:roll: what a dumb***

Comparing post-back surgery Dwight and 39 year old Nash to prime Wade and Bosh?

Go watch some MJ finals tapes and cry yourself to sleep

Wade's prime was 2009 and Bosh will never peak as a player. So yeah, they are comparable to Dwight and Nash.

[Milbuck]

Wade's prime was 2009 and Bosh will never peak as a player. So yeah, they are comparable to Dwight and Nash.

What a lazy troll. Try harder man, I'm not liking the effort.

[Black and White]

This will be the quickest ban in ISH history.

Lol I was right

[k0kakw0rld]

take a guess bout lebrons fg% if he shot 30+ a game, low 30's would be my guess
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