Pau Gasol has been in the Top 5 of Win Shares throughout 2008-2011 :bowdown:

[SavageMode]

Pau Gasol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zta_0s5ib8
2009-2010 Top Plays
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thzqmMuncV8
More Top Plays 2008-2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pozJusNZyz4

Top 5 in Win Shares in 2009-2010 season
Win Shares Per 48 Minutes
1. LeBron James-CLE .299
2. Kevin Durant-OKC .238
3. Dwyane Wade-MIA .224
4. Dwight Howard-ORL .223
5. Pau Gasol-LAL .220
6. Manu Ginobili-SAS .216
7. Tim Duncan-SAS .215
8. Chris Paul-NOH .204
9. Dirk Nowitzki-DAL .194
10. Andrew Bynum-LAL .188
11. Nene Hilario-DEN .188
12. Al Horford-ATL .183
13. Chauncey Billups-DEN.182
14. Chris Bosh-TOR .182
15. Amar'e Stoudemire-PHO .181
16. Brandon Roy-POR .180
17. Anderson Varejao-CLE.179
18. Steve Nash-PHO .178
19. Carlos Boozer-UTA .178
20. Deron Williams-UTA .177

ALSO

Top 2 Win Shares in 2010-2011 season
Win Shares
1. LeBron James-MIA 15.6
2. Pau Gasol-LAL 14.7
3. Dwight Howard-ORL 14.4
4. Chris Paul-NOH 13.9
5. Derrick Rose-CHI 13.1
6. Dwyane Wade-MIA 12.8
7. Kevin Durant-OKC 12.0
8. Paul Pierce-BOS 11.6
9. Kevin Love-MIN 11.4
10. Dirk Nowitzki-DAL 11.1
11. LaMarcus Aldridge-POR 11.1
12. Zach Randolph-MEM 10.5
13. Kobe Bryant-LAL 10.3
14. Chris Bosh-MIA 10.3
15. Lamar Odom-LAL 10.1
16. Al Horford-ATL 10.1
17. Ray Allen-BOS 10.0
18. Luol Deng-CHI 9.9
19. Manu Ginobili-SAS 9.9
20. Blake Griffin-LAC 9.8

ALSO

Top 5 in Win Shares in 2008-2009 Season/Playoffs
Win Shares
1. LeBron James-CLE 20.3
2. Chris Paul-NOH 18.3
3. Dwyane Wade-MIA 14.7
4. Pau Gasol-LAL 13.9
5. Dwight Howard-ORL 13.8
6. Brandon Roy-POR 13.5
7. Kobe Bryant-LAL 12.7
8. Ray Allen-BOS 11.1
9. Dirk Nowitzki-DAL 10.9
10. Yao Ming-HOU 10.6
11. Paul Pierce-BOS 10.3
12. Chauncey Billups-TOT 10.1
13. Tim Duncan-SAS 10.1
14. Rajon Rondo-BOS 9.9
15. Mo Williams-CLE 9.8
16. Chris Bosh-TOR 9.7
17. Gerald Wallace-CHA 9.5
18. Rashard Lewis-ORL 9.5
19. LaMarcus Aldridge-POR 9.5
20. Nene Hilario-DEN 9.3


Pau Gasol's name surrounded by All Time Greats like Lebron, Wade, Chris Paul, and Kevin Durant who carried their teams with Top Win Shares. :applause:
How great is Gasol? Very great.:applause:

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Pau Gasol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zta_0s5ib8
2009-2010 Top Plays
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thzqmMuncV8
More Top Plays 2008-2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pozJusNZyz4

Top 5 in Win Shares in 2009-2010 season
Win Shares Per 48 Minutes
1. LeBron James-CLE .299
2. Kevin Durant-OKC .238
3. Dwyane Wade-MIA .224
4. Dwight Howard-ORL .223
5. Pau Gasol-LAL .220
6. Manu Ginobili-SAS .216
7. Tim Duncan-SAS .215
8. Chris Paul-NOH .204
9. Dirk Nowitzki-DAL .194
10. Andrew Bynum-LAL .188
11. Nene Hilario-DEN .188
12. Al Horford-ATL .183
13. Chauncey Billups-DEN.182
14. Chris Bosh-TOR .182
15. Amar'e Stoudemire-PHO .181
16. Brandon Roy-POR .180
17. Anderson Varejao-CLE.179
18. Steve Nash-PHO .178
19. Carlos Boozer-UTA .178
20. Deron Williams-UTA .177

ALSO

Top 2 Win Shares in 2010-2011 season
Win Shares
1. LeBron James-MIA 15.6
2. Pau Gasol-LAL 14.7
3. Dwight Howard-ORL 14.4
4. Chris Paul-NOH 13.9
5. Derrick Rose-CHI 13.1
6. Dwyane Wade-MIA 12.8
7. Kevin Durant-OKC 12.0
8. Paul Pierce-BOS 11.6
9. Kevin Love-MIN 11.4
10. Dirk Nowitzki-DAL 11.1
11. LaMarcus Aldridge-POR 11.1
12. Zach Randolph-MEM 10.5
13. Kobe Bryant-LAL 10.3
14. Chris Bosh-MIA 10.3
15. Lamar Odom-LAL 10.1
16. Al Horford-ATL 10.1
17. Ray Allen-BOS 10.0
18. Luol Deng-CHI 9.9
19. Manu Ginobili-SAS 9.9
20. Blake Griffin-LAC 9.8

ALSO

Top 5 in Win Shares in 2008-2009 Season/Playoffs
Win Shares
1. LeBron James-CLE 20.3
2. Chris Paul-NOH 18.3
3. Dwyane Wade-MIA 14.7
4. Pau Gasol-LAL 13.9
5. Dwight Howard-ORL 13.8
6. Brandon Roy-POR 13.5
7. Kobe Bryant-LAL 12.7
8. Ray Allen-BOS 11.1
9. Dirk Nowitzki-DAL 10.9
10. Yao Ming-HOU 10.6
11. Paul Pierce-BOS 10.3
12. Chauncey Billups-TOT 10.1
13. Tim Duncan-SAS 10.1
14. Rajon Rondo-BOS 9.9
15. Mo Williams-CLE 9.8
16. Chris Bosh-TOR 9.7
17. Gerald Wallace-CHA 9.5
18. Rashard Lewis-ORL 9.5
19. LaMarcus Aldridge-POR 9.5
20. Nene Hilario-DEN 9.3


Pau Gasol's name surrounded by All Time Greats like Lebron, Wade, Chris Paul, and Kevin Durant who carried their teams with Top Win Shares. :applause:
How great is Gasol? Very great.:applause:

Still nobody will give lakers a 1st round pick

& his team his what 14-25 without kobe this season

[SavageMode]

Still nobody will give lakers a 1st round pick

& his team his what 14-25 without kobe this season
True. But this season has been a wash for the Lakers since day 1 of Kobe being down.

[secund2nun]

Gasol= the real 09 and 10 finals MVP. He has been disrespected in order to hype up 6/24 finals MVP Kobe LOL

[IncarceratedBob]

Can op explain win shares without googling it?

[SavageMode]

Gasol= the real 09 and 10 finals MVP. He has been disrespected in order to hype up 6/24 finals MVP Kobe LOL
No Disrespect to Kobe, he's a HOFer for sure but you may be right there.

[SavageMode]

Can op explain win shares without googling it?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/ws.html
Here my friend.

[RightToCensor]

BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT BUT......................

Kobe....Finals MVP.....LeaderBe.....Greastest Laker ever....

http://thehype.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/paugasol.jpg

[branslowski]

I know you just trollin, trying to give Gasol imaginary Finals MVPs and force yourself to believe Gasol>>Kobe and stuff, and hey, good for you buddy, don't let ne of these ppl tell you different, If the sky looks green to you, then dammit the skys green! But......Just some friendly advice, I know you won't change this retarded topic, but atleast do something new....You pullin up the same shit from 08'? 10'??...My n!gga, It's 2014, bring some new trolling material.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe led the playoffs in WS for the 01 playoffs so I guess that means he was better than Shaq

[AnaheimLakers24]

kobe bryant

[SavageMode]

Kobe led the playoffs in WS for the 01 playoffs so I guess that means he was better than Shaq
Link? That is probably true. Shaq and Kobe were the best 1-2 punch in the 2000's. Props to Kobe.

[L.A. Jazz]

Try to live with it, Kobe was the FMVP and the Lakers won.

[Uncle Drew]

OP is back from a ban and the first thing he does is open an anti-Kobe thread. :applause: Not obsessed at all.

[SavageMode]

OP is back from a ban and the first thing he does is open an anti-Kobe thread. :applause: Not obsessed at all.
Not at all. Just tributing Pau Gasol. I give my props to Kobe. :applause:

[Akrazotile]

For most fans, its all about aura over logic.

Kobes style of play (contested shots, scoring in bursts, scowling) has the kind of "superhero aura" that fans adore. Gasol's game, while truly more important to winning, isnt as exciting. So fans hitch their wagon to Kobe, because they want to vicariously bask in the mythical, chuck norris-esque legend of invincibility and triumph .... Even though its all fantasy. Thats simply what is most important to them.

It is what it is. There's no changing it.

:confusedshrug:

[Illuminati]

Crazy how underrated he was during those years.

[Mr. Jabbar]

kobe bryant

good post.

[Uncle Drew]

good post.
YOU'RE BACK :bowdown:

[secund2nun]

For most fans, its all about aura over logic.

Kobes style of play (contested shots, scoring in bursts, scowling) has the kind of "superhero aura" that fans adore. Gasol's game, while truly more important to winning, isnt as exciting. So fans hitch their wagon to Kobe, because they want to vicariously bask in the mythical, chuck norris-esque legend of invincibility and triumph .... Even though its all fantasy. Thats simply what is most important to them.

It is what it is. There's no changing it.

:confusedshrug:

The truth :bowdown:

[imdaman99]

LOL when is this troll gonna get over this already :facepalm

It feels as if it keeps him up at night :eek:

[Element]

0-20 before Kobe in the post season. Nice stats tho :applause:

[AnaheimLakers24]

Crazy how underrated he was during those years.
he was considered one of the best bigs and most skilled. you just didnt watch ball back than so you only go by what peiple say here loser

[Black and White]

Lol OP wanna get banned again?

[SexSymbol]

Hey Does Anybody Know The Record Of Kobe Vs Lebron?

I Forgot The Record Of Kobe Vs Lebron

What Was The Record Of Kobes Vs Lebron H2h Again?

What Is Record

What Is Love

Baby Dont Hurt Me

Dont Hurt Me

No More...

[Magic 32]

Ohhh this thread again.

0-20

[DFish24]

But what was Gasol without Kobe?

[Milbuck]

:facepalm How quickly people forget what a powerhouse those Pau-led Grizzlies were.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

But what was Gasol without Kobe?

But what about Kobe without a decent big man?

[oh the horror]

But what about Kobe without a decent big man?


That's not the point of the thread though.

Once again the OP gets embarrassed by actual logic.


He posts win shares but doesn't cite the years Pau was in Memphis?

[Magic 32]

But what about Kobe without a decent big man?

Kobe was one rebound away from beating a 50+ team in his first PO series as a leader.

Pau was 0-3 in 6 years.

Lebron was 1-5 in 5 years.

Thanks god for these guys and Bobbie Gibson...

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200706020CLE.html

http://english.people.com.cn/200701/17/images/xinsrc_1920104171124953311496.jpg

[SavageMode]

Gasol > Bosh.

Next

[GoranDragon]

I will argue he has a case for FMVPs in both his title runs.:applause:

Co-FMVP anyone?

[ArbitraryWater]

I'm confused. It seems the league stats are the same for the playoffs?

Does BR only have them for the playoffs? Is it RS or both?

[ArbitraryWater]

You know the only 2 players to lead their team to a championship and in finals win shares yet not be awarded FMVP? Ginobili 2005 and Gasol 2010.

BOTH are often acknowledged as FMVP's handed out to the wrong guy.

Win Shares HAS to be the BEST Measurement of Greatness. Just go back season by season, almost every single year the league's best player was also the leader in win-shares.

And for Gasol to lead the Lakers in Win Shares through the 2010 Season AND Finals, proves it really. You could easily make an argument for Gasol being the best from 2008-2011, while Bynum in 2012 and Howard in 2013.
Which would give Kobe a total of 3 season's as team's best. 2004-2007 on a bum team that missed the playoffs and exited in the first round twice.

[GoranDragon]

You know the only 2 players to lead their team to a championship and in finals win shares yet not be awarded FMVP? Ginobili 2005 and Gasol 2010.

BOTH are often acknowledged as FMVP's handed out to the wrong guy.

Win Shares HAS to be the BEST Measurement of Greatness. Just go back season by season, almost every single year the league's best player was also the leader in win-shares.

And for Gasol to lead the Lakers in Win Shares through the 2010 Season AND Finals, proves it really. You could easily make an argument for Gasol being the best from 2008-2011, while Bynum in 2012 and Howard in 2013.
Which would give Kobe a total of 3 season's as team's best. 2004-2007 on a bum team that missed the playoffs and exited in the first round twice.
Wow. My favorite poster out of the Jan 2014 batch.:applause: :applause: :applause:

[ArbitraryWater]

Wow. My favorite poster out of the Jan 2014 batch.:applause: :applause: :applause:

Of course :pimp: Nothing but facts

[HOoopCityJones]

LOL where do you guys come up with this shit.

[ZenMaster]

God I miss prime Pau, just so much skill and adequate power to put it all to use.

Through the 2010 playoffs he probably was the best player on the Lakers by just a smidge.

[GoranDragon]

God I miss prime Pau, just so much skill and adequate power to put it all to use.

Through the 2010 playoffs he probably was the best player on the Lakers by just a smidge.
Prime Gasol is a beast. Would be top 10 PF peak of all time.:pimp:

[riseagainst]

but what were Kobe's record against Lebron?

I forgot, could the OP remind me?

[GoranDragon]

but what were Kobe's record against Lebron?

I forgot, could the OP remind me?
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jamesle01&p2=bryanko01


Lebron wins 13-6.

[longtime lurker]

Pau Gasol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zta_0s5ib8
2009-2010 Top Plays
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thzqmMuncV8
More Top Plays 2008-2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pozJusNZyz4

Top 5 in Win Shares in 2009-2010 season
Win Shares Per 48 Minutes
1. LeBron James-CLE .299
2. Kevin Durant-OKC .238
3. Dwyane Wade-MIA .224
4. Dwight Howard-ORL .223
5. Pau Gasol-LAL .220
6. Manu Ginobili-SAS .216
7. Tim Duncan-SAS .215
8. Chris Paul-NOH .204
9. Dirk Nowitzki-DAL .194
10. Andrew Bynum-LAL .188
11. Nene Hilario-DEN .188
12. Al Horford-ATL .183
13. Chauncey Billups-DEN.182
14. Chris Bosh-TOR .182
15. Amar'e Stoudemire-PHO .181
16. Brandon Roy-POR .180
17. Anderson Varejao-CLE.179
18. Steve Nash-PHO .178
19. Carlos Boozer-UTA .178
20. Deron Williams-UTA .177

ALSO

Top 2 Win Shares in 2010-2011 season
Win Shares
1. LeBron James-MIA 15.6
2. Pau Gasol-LAL 14.7
3. Dwight Howard-ORL 14.4
4. Chris Paul-NOH 13.9
5. Derrick Rose-CHI 13.1
6. Dwyane Wade-MIA 12.8
7. Kevin Durant-OKC 12.0
8. Paul Pierce-BOS 11.6
9. Kevin Love-MIN 11.4
10. Dirk Nowitzki-DAL 11.1
11. LaMarcus Aldridge-POR 11.1
12. Zach Randolph-MEM 10.5
13. Kobe Bryant-LAL 10.3
14. Chris Bosh-MIA 10.3
15. Lamar Odom-LAL 10.1
16. Al Horford-ATL 10.1
17. Ray Allen-BOS 10.0
18. Luol Deng-CHI 9.9
19. Manu Ginobili-SAS 9.9
20. Blake Griffin-LAC 9.8

ALSO

Top 5 in Win Shares in 2008-2009 Season/Playoffs
Win Shares
1. LeBron James-CLE 20.3
2. Chris Paul-NOH 18.3
3. Dwyane Wade-MIA 14.7
4. Pau Gasol-LAL 13.9
5. Dwight Howard-ORL 13.8
6. Brandon Roy-POR 13.5
7. Kobe Bryant-LAL 12.7
8. Ray Allen-BOS 11.1
9. Dirk Nowitzki-DAL 10.9
10. Yao Ming-HOU 10.6
11. Paul Pierce-BOS 10.3
12. Chauncey Billups-TOT 10.1
13. Tim Duncan-SAS 10.1
14. Rajon Rondo-BOS 9.9
15. Mo Williams-CLE 9.8
16. Chris Bosh-TOR 9.7
17. Gerald Wallace-CHA 9.5
18. Rashard Lewis-ORL 9.5
19. LaMarcus Aldridge-POR 9.5
20. Nene Hilario-DEN 9.3


Pau Gasol's name surrounded by All Time Greats like Lebron, Wade, Chris Paul, and Kevin Durant who carried their teams with Top Win Shares. :applause:
How great is Gasol? Very great.:applause:

Can you point out where Pau finished in MVP voting and how many MVP's he has? Thanks

[GoranDragon]

Can you point out where Pau finished in MVP voting and how many MVP's he has? Thanks
You're saying this as if Kobe has TONS of MVPs.:lol :oldlol:

Kobe only have 1 sympathy MVP which should have been CP3's.:no:

[riseagainst]

You're saying this as if Kobe has TONS of MVPs.:lol :oldlol:

Kobe only have 1 sympathy MVP which should have been CP3's.:no:

ur right. Pau is also very comparable to Shaq. They are basically the same player.

:rolleyes:

[longtime lurker]

You're saying this as if Kobe has TONS of MVPs.:lol :oldlol:

Kobe only have 1 sympathy MVP which should have been CP3's.:no:

Why not post it? I'm sure the best player on the Lakers would be leading in MVP votes by a considerable margin

[TMT]

He was the best big man in the league around this time. No news here.

[GoranDragon]

He was the best big man in the league around this time. No news here.
This.

[gts]

So win shares have real value eh?

That takes MJ out of the top 3 all time list and moves him to number 4

New GOAT list everyone

Kareem
Wilt
Malone
MJ

Magic Johnson is now barely in the top 20, Bird's 22nd and Wade isn't even in the top 50 all time players list

This win shares thing is great, we don't even have to think for ourselves anymore because there's a number that tells us who is better and ranks them for us

[Droid101]

Kobe led the playoffs in WS for the 01 playoffs so I guess that means he was better than Shaq
Thread backfire incoming.

[HOoopCityJones]

Awww man.

[longtime lurker]

Can you point out where Pau finished in MVP voting and how many MVP's he has? Thanks

Still waiting......

[Marlo_Stanfield]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jamesle01&p2=bryanko01


Lebron wins 13-6.
ETHER:roll: :bowdown:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Still waiting......
since when are MVPs important to Kobe stans?
remember, ur guy only managed to get one in 17 years:lol
dat dominance:bowdown:

[Magic 32]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jamesle01&p2=bryanko01


Lebron wins 13-6.

Regular seasons games, bragging about series that Lebron lost (09 Magic), trying to make the 0-16 guy the main reason for 2 rings.

What next from these clowns.

[Mr. Jabbar]

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/421/363/0b0.jpg

[Droid101]

http://p.twimg.com/AzRwfI9CQAA8uzu.jpg

[riseagainst]

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/421/363/0b0.jpg


:roll: :roll:

one of the best memes I've ever seen.
:lol :lol

[Boarder Patrol]

http://p.twimg.com/AzRwfI9CQAA8uzu.jpg

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Riley Martin]

So win shares have real value eh?

That takes MJ out of the top 3 all time list and moves him to number 4

New GOAT list everyone

Kareem
Wilt
Malone
MJ

Magic Johnson is now barely in the top 20, Bird's 22nd and Wade isn't even in the top 50 all time players list

This win shares thing is great, we don't even have to think for ourselves anymore because there's a number that tells us who is better and ranks them for us

This.