Durant without Westbrook

[Prometheus]

anyone who wants to knock Durant for losing a lot of games without westbrook is out of their mind. just watch this offense, it's horrendous. teams can gear their whole scheme toward kd and he still puts up 35+ most nights on good shooting. without westbrook, the thunder are like the pre-pippen bulls or bronbron's cavaliers (whose records would not have been as good in the western conference).

[FreezingTsmoove]

Just had to get some criticism of Bron in there eh?

[LeBron 06]

anyone who wants to knock Durant for losing a lot of games without westbrook is out of their mind. just watch this offense, it's horrendous. teams can gear their whole scheme toward kd and he still puts up 35+ most nights on good shooting. without westbrook, the thunder are like the pre-pippen bulls or bronbron's cavaliers (whose records would not have been as good in the western conference).


agree with this

[JebronLames]

anyone who wants to knock Durant for losing a lot of games without westbrook is out of their mind. just watch this offense, it's horrendous. teams can gear their whole scheme toward kd and he still puts up 35+ most nights on good shooting. without westbrook, the thunder are like the pre-pippen bulls or bronbron's cavaliers (whose records would not have been as good in the western conference).
People blamed lebron for not winning with cavs :oldlol:

[moe94]

Just had to get some criticism of Bron in there eh?
Yes, every thread is about LeBron.

[Spaulding]

agree with this

Obvious alt.

[knicksman]

clearly its Dmavs lol

[aj1987]

anyone who wants to knock Durant for losing a lot of games without westbrook is out of their mind. just watch this offense, it's horrendous. teams can gear their whole scheme toward kd and he still puts up 35+ most nights on good shooting. without westbrook, the thunder are like the pre-pippen bulls or bronbron's cavaliers (whose records would not have been as good in the western conference).
26-4 in '09 and 23-7 in '10 against the Western conference.

[avonbarksdale]

26-4 in '09 and 23-7 in '10 against the Western conference.


yeah im sure you were a cavs fan then

#bandwagon

[Prometheus]

Just had to get some criticism of Bron in there eh?

it's not much of a criticism, I'm just saying those cavs teams sucked hard. don't even pretend like you don't agree that their records would not have been as good in the west. I'm not trying to take anything away from what he did there, it was a miracle that he took them to the finals and won 66 games (!) the one year with such a pitiful roster. major props to LeBron for what he did in Cleveland. don't mistake me for a hater

[Prometheus]

Yes, every thread is about LeBron.

this thread is about Durant and westbrook. it's only about bron if you fools want to "cherry pick" that out of my post and make it about that. why is no one complaining about me bringing up Jordan? do you not agree that the situations are comparable? it's an analogy, and a relevant one

[navy]

Nobody wins alone.

[Prometheus]

clearly its Dmavs lol

who, me?

[Joe Anderson]

26-4 in '09 and 23-7 in '10 against the Western conference.
Yep, there goes that excuse Durant Stans. There is no shame in admitting that Durant is incapable of winning without a top 5 player beside him. Not everyone can be like Lebron and lead scrubs to 60 win seasons. :rockon:

[Black and White]

this thread is about Durant and westbrook. it's only about bron if you fools want to "cherry pick" that out of my post and make it about that. why is no one complaining about me bringing up Jordan? do you not agree that the situations are comparable? it's an analogy, and a relevant one

Are you DMavs??

[Prometheus]

Nobody wins alone.

exactly :cheers:

[PsychoBe]

exactly :cheers:

nobody is capable of objectively applying that argument across the board so we all might as well ignore it

[aj1987]

yeah im sure you were a cavs fan then

#bandwagon
Yeah, I'm sure you were a ****** then. Oh wait, you still are.

[Prometheus]

Are you DMavs??

no, i lurked on this forum for a few months until they finally opened up registration. and from what I've read I'm a little bit offended to be accused of being his alt, i seem to remember his arguments being redundant and irrational

[Prometheus]

Prometheus is no one's alt. Prometheus is the original, of which there will someday be alts.

[moe94]

this thread is about Durant and westbrook. it's only about bron if you fools want to "cherry pick" that out of my post and make it about that. why is no one complaining about me bringing up Jordan? do you not agree that the situations are comparable? it's an analogy, and a relevant one
I was defending your thread against an idiot trying to derail it.

[Black and White]

no, i lurked on this forum for a few months until they finally opened up registration. and from what I've read I'm a little bit offended to be accused of being his alt, i seem to remember his arguments being redundant and irrational

I never see him in many other threads except for Mavs/Dirk ones

[DMAVS41]

no, i lurked on this forum for a few months until they finally opened up registration. and from what I've read I'm a little bit offended to be accused of being his alt, i seem to remember his arguments being redundant and irrational

I'm offended....

The only people that think my arguments are irrational...are well...irrational people

as for the OP...Durant should be getting more wins with this team without Westbrook.

[Rodmantheman]

If Lebron and Durant don't win the MVP who is the third guy to get it.

[DMAVS41]

If Lebron and Durant don't win the MVP who is the third guy to get it.

Paul George. Only guys I can see with a case at this point.

[navy]

If Lebron and Durant don't win the MVP who is the third guy to get it.
Lamarcus or Paul George.

[Prometheus]

I was defending your thread against an idiot trying to derail it.

i figured. just wasn't sure. shoulda figured you got my back after that pistons/lakers talk yesterday :oldlol:

[Black and White]

I'm offended....

The only people that think my arguments are irrational...are well...irrational people

as for the OP...Durant should be getting more wins with this team without Westbrook.

You magically appear when we are talking about you?????? Hmmmm....

[DMAVS41]

You magically appear when they are talking about you?????? Hmmmm....

Magic...

[Rodmantheman]

Lamarcus or Paul George.

that would be cool to see Lamarcus win it.

[Prometheus]

If Lebron and Durant don't win the MVP who is the third guy to get it.

it will be paul George, but i think that's because there's a flaw in the way the award is given. George obviously has the better numbers and is the #1 scoring option for the pacers, but the player most valuable to the success of their team is obviously hibbert

[Prometheus]

nobody is capable of objectively applying that argument across the board so we all might as well ignore it

huh?

[DMAVS41]

it will be paul George, but i think that's because there's a flaw in the way the award is given. George obviously has the better numbers and is the #1 scoring option for the pacers, but the player most valuable to the success of their team is obviously hibbert

that is not obvious at all. LOL

highly debatable...

[Black and White]

Magic...

:cheers:

[Prometheus]

You magically appear when we are talking about you?????? Hmmmm....

okay, you caught me/us. I'm just logging out of one account and back in on the other. I'm not sure why i bother, but life is meaningless anyway.

[Prometheus]

that is not obvious at all. LOL

highly debatable...

:whatever:

[Black and White]

okay, you caught me/us. I'm just logging out of one account and back in on the other. I'm not sure why i bother, but life is meaningless anyway.

It was a joke dude

[PsychoBe]

huh?

nobody will say "no one can win it alone" to every player every time they will change up their argument I.E. debates on the quality of help Lebron had in Cleveland or KG's help in Minnesota vs Tim Duncan's sustained "help" in San Antonio or Jordan's "help" in the 80's vs Magic & Bird's "help" vs Jordan's help in the 90's

it never ends

and durant without westbrook is still durant regardless.

the thunder without westbrook aren't the thunder regardless.

[DMAVS41]

:whatever:

:roll:

Yes...Hibbert is more valuable than PG and it's not debatable

:no: :facepalm

[Prometheus]

It was a joke dude

well you can joke all you want but i was dead serious

[Black and White]

well you can joke all you want but i was dead serious

What?

[moe94]

Dmavs, outside Dirk talk, is an objective and great user. Rise above the hate.

[navy]

:roll:

Yes...Hibbert is more valuable than PG and it's not debatable

:no: :facepalm
Only vs Miami.

[Black and White]

Dmavs, outside Dirk talk, is an objective and great user. Rise above the hate.

I always thought he was a good poster, even in the Dirk threads, except sometimes it gets a bit repetitive but he brings facts.

[Prometheus]

oh and another reason i couldn't be this guy is my deep seeded, irrational hatred for dirk nowitski. i hated him ever since he was playing with nash. i never could figure out why, and despite my hatred i totally respect his game - he had one of the greatest playoff runs I've seen the year bron bron pooped his pants, but for some reason i just hate him very much. i think it's his face. do you guys think it's his face? he's just... so ugly i can't even deal with it. great player, one-of-a-kind talent, hate hate hate hate hate him. always want to see him fail and i could never root for him ever

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Agreed. I'm not totally sure what Brooks' running out there.

[Black and White]

oh and another reason i couldn't be this guy is my deep seeded, irrational hatred for dirk nowitski. i hated him ever since he was playing with nash. i never could figure out why, and despite my hatred i totally respect his game - he had one of the greatest playoff runs I've seen the year bron bron pooped his pants, but for some reason i just hate him very much. i think it's his face. do you guys think it's his face? he's just... so ugly i can't even deal with it. great player, one-of-a-kind talent, hate hate hate hate hate him. always want to see him fail and i could never root for him ever

His face? :oldlol:

[Prometheus]

Dmavs, outside Dirk talk, is an objective and great user. Rise above the hate.

i'll keep my mind open. i can't even remember what thread i was referring to, so i might be remembering him as someone else. i don't hate ya DMAVS, you could come over my house and drink craft beer and play video games with me

[Rose'sACL]

Hibbert is really important on the defensive end. He is the reason they can play 1on1 defense a lot.his rim protection is their safety net on defense when some perimeter defender ****s up. They only help when elite players like lebron, Durant or melo are guarded by George.

[Prometheus]

His face? :oldlol:

yes, his face. i hate his stupid face. just like bill Walton, but he also had that voice and those stupid words that formed from it

[Prometheus]

Hibbert is really important on the defensive end. He is the reason they can play 1on1 defense a lot.his read m protection is their safety net on defense when some perimeter defender ****s up. They only help when elite players like lebron, Durant or melo are guarded by George.

yeah pretty much. i get annoyed sometimes with the level of praise pg's defense gets. he's a good defender, but is drastically overrated because hibbert makes him (and every other player on that roster) look better than they are on that end.

[Black and White]

yes, his face. i hate his stupid face. just like bill Walton, but he also had that voice and those stupid words that formed from it

:oldlol:

[moe94]

oh and another reason i couldn't be this guy is my deep seeded, irrational hatred for dirk nowitski. i hated him ever since he was playing with nash. i never could figure out why, and despite my hatred i totally respect his game - he had one of the greatest playoff runs I've seen the year bron bron pooped his pants, but for some reason i just hate him very much. i think it's his face. do you guys think it's his face? he's just... so ugly i can't even deal with it. great player, one-of-a-kind talent, hate hate hate hate hate him. always want to see him fail and i could never root for him ever

Dirk is a beautiful specimen. I'm afraid I cannot agree with you here. :coleman:

[CelticBaller]

where his little boyfriend hamtaro at? ***** shook when his man crush is losing

[Mr. Jabbar]

thunder has been HORRID from 3pt range the last few games

[moe94]

where his little boyfriend hamtaro at? ***** shook when his man crush is losing

He's waiting on the next LeBron game. His post is already written up. Just needs to plug in a couple variables. :banana:

[Joyner82reload]

This thread has serious backfire potential right now :lol :lol

[Prometheus]

This thread has serious backfire potential right now :lol :lol

what, you mean if the thunder win tonight?

[DMAVS41]

I always thought he was a good poster, even in the Dirk threads, except sometimes it gets a bit repetitive but he brings facts.

I have to repeat shit because it takes time for people to comprehend things...

People just don't like having their perceptions blown apart. Hell, just the other day a guy was going on about the "countless" chokes by Dirk in the playoffs. When I asked him to list them...he left the thread.

People just love labeling players. Dirk is soft and will never win. Lebron is mentally weak and a choker and won't win. Kobe won't win without Shaq. Etc...

Durant should and will win in my opinion, but obviously they need Westbrook to do that.

[O_City_Thunder]

I have to repeat shit because it takes time for people to comprehend things...

People just don't like having their perceptions blown apart. Hell, just the other day a guy was going on about the "countless" chokes by Dirk in the playoffs. When I asked him to list them...he left the thread.

People just love labeling players. Dirk is soft and will never win. Lebron is mentally weak and a choker and won't win. Kobe won't win without Shaq. Etc...

Durant should and will win in my opinion, but obviously they need Westbrook to do that.
Just for the record....I think you're a very good poster and I think you make a lot of great points. And it helps that you're a Dirk fan. But I do have a question....Did you use to be Gino or something like that?

[Thunderfan86]

Agreed. I'm not totally sure what Brooks' running out there.
I know right :oldlol:

[KD35willbeGOAT]

How much better would OKC look if a competent coach placed an offensive system that actually used everybody properly?

[Prometheus]

How much better would OKC look if a competent coach placed an offensive system that actually used everybody properly?

good call.

you should send them your resume.

[chazzy]

Agreed. I'm not totally sure what Brooks' running out there.
Sometimes it looks like they're just taking turns. Guy does not know how to implement a system and make adjustments

[KD35willbeGOAT]

good call.

you should send them your resume.

Wait, so you think I could do better? Appreciate the support, brotha. :D

[Prometheus]

Wait, so you think I could do better? Appreciate the support, brotha. :D

nailed it. :rockon:

[BlazerRed]

How much better would OKC look if a competent coach placed an offensive system that actually used everybody properly?
Exactly. THIS is the main reason OKC struggles without Westbrook. They have no offensive scheme, it's all ISO ball for their two stars, so when one of them are gone there goes 50% of their whole offensive game plan. Brooks :facepalm

[KD35willbeGOAT]

I've been pro Sloan/JvG/SvG/Karl before OKC even made the finals once. They're all up for hire, not sure what the hold up is. Presti is too hesitant to pull the trigger, which is understandable since Brooks has had "success" with the team, although given the talent, who wouldn't?

[DMAVS41]

Sometimes it looks like they're just taking turns. Guy does not know how to implement a system and make adjustments

He's been their biggest weakness since 2010. He relies solely on great offensive players. He's probably a bottom 5 coach in reality.

[chazzy]

He's been their biggest weakness since 2010. He relies solely on great offensive players. He's probably a bottom 5 coach in reality.
It was bizarre watching him overplay Perkins in the '12 finals. A niche post defender chasing around Bosh or Battier.. lol

[KD35willbeGOAT]

It was bizarre watching him overplay Perkins in the '12 finals. A niche post defender chasing around Bosh or Battier.. lol

I wonder, if Brooks started Harden years ago, would they have been certain of his star potential? I'm sure Presti knew, but did Brooks or Bennett?

[DMAVS41]

It was bizarre watching him overplay Perkins in the '12 finals. A niche post defender chasing around Bosh or Battier.. lol

Yea...the only thing you can maybe credit him with is getting the Thunder to buy in defensively last year and this year. But in terms of running real sets, strategy, adjustments...etc. He's awful and has been for years...