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Im so nba'd out
01-18-2014, 01:52 AM
Anyone who thinks they are still = scorers is a Got Damn liar and the truth is not in them.Durant has passed him That is all

http://i.imgur.com/sED61.png

GoranDragon
01-18-2014, 01:53 AM
Melo is a better pure scorer. Durant better in defense, which isn't saying much.

CelticBaller
01-18-2014, 01:53 AM
what

navy
01-18-2014, 01:53 AM
Melo's scoring is overrated. However in one on one he would probably beat Durant.

Smook A.
01-18-2014, 01:54 AM
Well Melo was 4/23 tonight. Of course Durant is a better scorer

Le Shaqtus
01-18-2014, 01:55 AM
Melo is a better pure scorer. Durant better in defense, which isn't saying much.

You're either a really bad troll, or a legitimate retard.

IncarceratedBob
01-18-2014, 01:55 AM
Obviously

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
01-18-2014, 01:55 AM
KD surpassed Melo as a scorer 4 years ago

Smook A.
01-18-2014, 01:56 AM
You're either a really bad troll, or a legitimate retard.
He's a legit retard

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 01:57 AM
:facepalm
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=anthoca01&p2=duranke01

GoranDragon
01-18-2014, 01:57 AM
I've seen Melo do things Durant can only dream of doing. Melo, when hot, is a better pure scorer than Durant.

CelticBaller
01-18-2014, 01:58 AM
:facepalm
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=anthoca01&p2=duranke01
h2h performances don't really prove who's the better scored though :confusedshrug:

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
01-18-2014, 01:58 AM
:facepalm
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=anthoca01&p2=duranke01
Most of those games were when KD was a rookie and sophomore :biggums: Then Melo ran to the Leastern conference

Fudge
01-18-2014, 01:58 AM
RG on the loose again ^

Im Still Ballin
01-18-2014, 01:59 AM
Why is this even debated.....

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 02:04 AM
How quickly yall forget
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swjxOFlhcx0 18-26 all on jumpers

Melo has had tons of performances and stretches like this. Melo does this every april.

Only thing keeping Durant ahead of Melo is free throws.

GoranDragon
01-18-2014, 02:04 AM
How quickly yall forget
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swjxOFlhcx0

Melo has had tons of performances and stretches like this. Melo does this every april.

Only thing keeping Durant ahead of Melo is free throws.
This this this.

CelticBaller
01-18-2014, 02:05 AM
Only thing keeping Durant ahead of Melo is free throws.
or the fact that his scoring has actually led his team to the finals?

I love melo but Durant is definitely a better scorer

Im so nba'd out
01-18-2014, 02:06 AM
Anyone who thinks melo is a better scorer is a durant hater or you just like to argue POINT BLANK PERIOD.No logical person can say melo is a better scorer don't show me head to head stats i dont care that means nothing WATCH THEM BOTH THIS YEAR AND ITS OBVIOUS THEY ARE NOT = ANYMORE THIS MF DURANT CAN FLATOUT SCORE THAT FUKING ORANGE

rlsmooth775
01-18-2014, 02:06 AM
Durant is better but he never plays good against melo

Le Shaqtus
01-18-2014, 02:07 AM
Durant is better but he never plays good against melo

Yeah Melo usually beats Durant head to head. But Durants team is shittier and plays in a tougher conference. Durant is better at all facets of the game than Melo.

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 02:08 AM
or the fact that his scoring has actually led his team to the finals?

I love melo but Durant is definitely a better scorer

This is a team sport. Melo has never had a top 10 player on his team like Westbrook

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 02:11 AM
Yeah Melo usually beats Durant head to head. But Durants team is shittier and plays in a tougher conference. Durant is better at all facets of the game than Melo.

LOLOLOL Durant has a much better team than Melo even without Westbrook. Reggie Jackson is 10 times better than raymond fatton, Sefolosha and Shump is a wash, Lamb is better than JR, Ibaka is better than Bargs, and Steven Adams is closing in on Tyson.

Im so nba'd out
01-18-2014, 02:12 AM
This is a team sport. Melo has never had a top 10 player on his team like Westbrook
WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HE IS DOING THIS WITH NOT EVEN A TOP 50 PLAYER ON HIS TEAM RIGHT NOW! I DONT WANT TO HEAR THAT SHT.YOU CAN'T DENY HIM NO MORE THIS MF DURANT IS THE BEST SCORER IN THE GAME TODAY..like i said if you say melo is a better scorer your either a durant hater or you enjoy arguing with people

GoranDragon
01-18-2014, 02:12 AM
This is a team sport. Melo has never had a top 10 player on his team like Westbrook
And a top 5 PF in Ibaka, best shot blocker in the league.

Droid101
01-18-2014, 02:13 AM
Yeah Melo usually beats Durant head to head. But Durants team is shittier and plays in a tougher conference. Durant is better at all facets of the game than Melo.
Deron Williams usually beats Chris Paul head to head...

...head to head stats mean nothing. What the **** is wrong with you people?

Le Shaqtus
01-18-2014, 02:13 AM
LOLOLOL Durant has a much better team than Melo even without Westbrook. Reggie Jackson is 10 times better than raymond fatton, Sefolosha and Shump is a wash, Lamb is better than JR, Ibaka is better than Bargs, and Steven Adams is closing in on Tyson.

Do you watch basketball? Durants team is shit minus Westbrook, Ibaka is on and off.

Steven Adams closing in on Tyson :roll: reach harder.

Durant>Melo

Jameerthefear
01-18-2014, 02:14 AM
if you don't think kd is a better scorer than melo you're fvcking retarded. like no joke.

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 02:14 AM
WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HE IS DOING THIS WITH NOT EVEN A TOP 50 PLAYER ON HIS TEAM RIGHT NOW I DONT WANT TO HEAR THAT SHT.YOU CAN'T DENY HIM NO MORE THIS MF DURANT IS THE BEST SCORER IN THE GAME TODAY ..

What is he doing without Westbrook exactly? He is putting up stats but his team .500 without Westbrook. And Ibaka is definitely a top 50 player maybe top 30.

Im Still Ballin
01-18-2014, 02:14 AM
Consistency is a part of scoring.

KD (number 2) scoring > Melo scoring

Deal with it.

SacJB Shady
01-18-2014, 02:14 AM
Anyone who thinks they are still = scorers is a Got Damn liar and the truth is not in them.Durant has passed him That is all


Scoring is scoring. Melo still the better scorer. Plus he's shorter which makes him better.

Droid101
01-18-2014, 02:15 AM
And a top 5 PF in Ibaka, best shot blocker in the league.
I've reported like, ten of your posts tonight and ignored you, but I had to click the "view this post" button just one last time.

Ibaka is not the best shot blocker in the league. In fact, he's fourth... and he's lucky to be that high, because Larry Sanders hasn't played enough games to qualify just yet.

Seriously, quit the forum now. You're getting banned in the next 24 hours, so I'd duck out like a man while you still can.

Milbuck
01-18-2014, 02:16 AM
Scoring is scoring. Melo still the better scorer. Plus he's shorter which makes him better.

So AI = GOAT scorer, got it.

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 02:16 AM
Do you watch basketball? Durants team is shit minus Westbrook, Ibaka is on and off.

Steven Adams closing in on Tyson :roll: reach harder.

Durant>Melo


:roll: :roll:

Have you seen the Knicks without Melo? They can't stay in a game for 1 quarter without him. JR is shooting 36 percent and Shumpert is trash. Bargs is so up and down...usually down. The Knicks have 0 consistent offensive threats outside Melo.

bizil
01-18-2014, 02:18 AM
Of the last few years, I've thought the guys with the best total scoring skillsets (midrange, postups, three ball, slashing, footwork) were Kobe, Melo, and Pierce. Other guys like Joe Johnson had scoring skillsets on par, but the other three were more dominant with it. Durant's had all of that except the post up and physicality Kobe, Pierce, and Melo can bring.

However in terms of flat out putting the ball in the rack, Durant is the best scorer in the world now. I'm talking in terms of the results. Durant, Melo, and Bron are the top three scorers in the world (mamba is out and who knows how he will come back). Bron is the best slasher, Melo has the best scoring skillset, and Durant is the best period!! Durant is a pure shooter and pure slasher all in one!! It's like putting Bird, T-Mac, and Gervin all into one in terms of scoring! That's sick, sick shit!

But don't sleep on Melo! In terms of scoring from more different areas on the court, Melo still has more versatility than Durant. Once again, I feel Durant is the better scorer, but Melo is the more versatile scorer.

Le Shaqtus
01-18-2014, 02:19 AM
:roll: :roll:

Have you seen the Knicks without Melo? They can't stay in a game for 1 quarter without him. JR is shooting 36 percent and Shumpert is trash. Bargs is so up and down...usually down. The Knicks have 0 consistent offensive threats outside Melo.

Put Durant on the Knicks and they win more games :confusedshrug: Put Melo on the Thunder and they're probably not even in the playoffs.

Im so nba'd out
01-18-2014, 02:19 AM
What is he doing without Westbrook exactly? He is putting up stats but his team .500 without Westbrook. And Ibaka is definitely a top 50 player maybe top 30.
What is he doing.....he just put up 54 with no 1 on his team the whole defense was geared to stop him AND HE SCORED 54 POINTS WITH ANDRE IGUODALA ON THE COURT.you just want to argue man or you a melo stan.I dont care what his record is im talking about who is the better scorer.Knicks are under 500 by the way

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 02:20 AM
Put Durant on the Knicks and they win more games :confusedshrug: Put Melo on the Thunder and they're probably not even in the playoffs.

I doubt that very much, Melo has carried lesser teams than what the Thunder have to the playoffs and Melo has never been on a team that finished with a losing record.

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 02:23 AM
What is he doing.....he just put up 54 with no 1 on his team the whole defense was geared to stop him AND HE SCORED 54 POINTS WITH ANDRE IGUODALA ON THE COURT.you just want to argue man or you a melo stan.I dont care what his record is im talking about who is the better scorer.Knicks are under 500 by the way

I'm just saying you need to stop trashing the Thunder supporting cast to prop up Durant. Reggie Jackson is a very good pg and a very good scorer. Ibaka is a very good pf, and Lamb is steadily becoming a nice scorer off the bench.

Droid101
01-18-2014, 02:25 AM
I'm just saying you need to stop trashing the Thunder supporting cast to prop up Durant. Reggie Jackson is a very good pg and a very good scorer. Ibaka is a very good pf, and Lamb is steadily becoming a nice scorer off the bench.
:roll:

JohnFreeman
01-18-2014, 02:28 AM
Melo > Durant and it's not close

215Philly
01-18-2014, 02:29 AM
So AI = GOAT scorer, got it.
Damn right :rockon:

GoranDragon
01-18-2014, 02:30 AM
Melo > Durant and it's not close
I agree with the first part. But it's close.

Swap Melo and Durant and see what happens, Durant would not bring NY a ring, but Melo would contend.

CelticBaller
01-18-2014, 02:30 AM
:roll:
seriously, thats just straight retarded

Im so nba'd out
01-18-2014, 02:31 AM
Stop Looking @ How He Scores Who Gives A Fk If Melo Is A Better Post Player.wtf Would Kevin Durant Need To Post Up When He Got Handles like this.Melo Has To Post Up Because He Cant Dribble Like Durant.this Is Not A Thread Hating On Melo Im Not Gona Pick Apart All His Flaws This Is A Thread Giving Respect To Kd.melo Is Still A Top 3 Scorer In The League Easy

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 02:36 AM
seriously, thats just straight retarded

But its correct, the knicks would kill to have reggie as their starting pg instead of felton.

Im so nba'd out
01-18-2014, 02:39 AM
But its correct, the knicks would kill to have reggie as their starting pg instead of felton.
so your going to just ignore my last post about melo having to post up.NICE

OG LeeTSkeeT
01-18-2014, 02:44 AM
reminded me of how kobe used to take over games

kNicKz
01-18-2014, 02:45 AM
Yeah Melo usually beats Durant head to head. But Durants team is shittier and plays in a tougher conference. Durant is better at all facets of the game than Melo.

http://redsarmy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/jr-smith-clubbing.jpg

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 02:47 AM
so your going to just ignore my last post about melo having to post up.NICE

? melo doesn't have to post up, he shoots much better in catch and shoot opportunities. Much better than Durant in catch and shoot.

Le Shaqtus
01-18-2014, 02:50 AM
http://redsarmy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/jr-smith-clubbing.jpg

JR Smith was 6th man of the year a legitimate scorer for the Knicks last season, he lost his shit. If he were playing like he was last season there wouldn't be as many issues as they're having now.

Boarder Patrol
01-18-2014, 02:51 AM
This isn't even a debate anymore. Melo has more of an arsenal, with all of his moves, but Durant gives better results. His length lets him draw contact with ease and shoot over any defender.

JohnFreeman
01-18-2014, 02:52 AM
Durants team > Melo's team.
Iverson, Kobe and LeBron took lesser teams further.

KG215
01-18-2014, 03:15 AM
The only dumbasses that ever tried to argue otherwise were/are Knick/Melo fans. There is absolutely nothing that backs up the belief that Melo is a better scorer than Durant.

kNicKz
01-18-2014, 03:20 AM
The only dumbasses that ever tried to argue otherwise were/are Knick/Melo fans. There is absolutely nothing that backs up the belief that Melo is a better scorer than Durant.

KD > Melo

But pretending that KD has a worse supporting cast is laughable.

Legends66NBA7
01-18-2014, 03:59 AM
Put Melo on the Thunder and they're probably not even in the playoffs.

Nonsense.

They would very much be in the playoffs.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-18-2014, 04:03 AM
Good to see most posters here value efficiency. :facepalm

Melo, while very skilled, is the most overrated "scorer" in the league.

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 04:15 AM
Good to see most posters here value efficiency. :facepalm

Melo, while very skilled, is the most overrated "scorer" in the league.

If efficiency is all that matters then Lebron is the best scorer in the league, I really don't see many people arguing that

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-18-2014, 04:16 AM
If efficiency is all that matters then Lebron is the best scorer in the league, I really don't see many people arguing that

I never said efficiency is "all that matters". Nice try though.

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 04:19 AM
I never said efficiency is "all that matters". Nice try though.

Seems to be, that is the only case Durant has over Melo.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-18-2014, 04:20 AM
Seems to be, that is the only case Durant has over Melo.

No it isn't.

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 04:22 AM
No it isn't.

yes it is

Legends66NBA7
01-18-2014, 04:23 AM
Durant is a better facilitator, defender, and shooter, for sure.

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 04:25 AM
Durant is a better facilitator, defender, and shooter, for sure.

I think Melo is a better shooter, Durant is much better around the rim though.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-18-2014, 04:25 AM
yes it is

Wrong.

Durant is a better finisher; better from 3-9 feet, 10-16 feet, arguably better from 16-19 feet, and definitely better from 3. Educate your dumb ass.

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 04:29 AM
Wrong.

Durant is a better finisher; better from 3-9 feet, 10-16 feet, arguably better from 16-19 feet, and definitely better from 3. Educate your dumb ass.

definitely better from 3 based on what? Melo is shooting a better percentage from 3 than Durant.

Legends66NBA7
01-18-2014, 04:30 AM
Wrong.

Durant is a better finisher; better from 3-9 feet, 10-16 feet, arguably better from 16-19 feet, and definitely better from 3. Educate your dumb ass.

You have a link for their totals ?

I can't find a proper site.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-18-2014, 04:34 AM
definitely better from 3 based on what? Melo is shooting a better percentage from 3 than Durant.

Based on an entire season of data (2012-13). This year, Durant is taking about one more 3 per game than Carmelo, and is converting them a 39% clip. Same percentage as Carmelo.

Durant is a better scorer than Carmelo. And no, it's not even close.
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1975/carmelo-anthony
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3202/kevin-durant

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 04:37 AM
Based on an entire season of data (2012-13). This year, Durant is taking about one more 3 per game than Carmelo, and is converting them a 39% clip. Same percentage as Carmelo.

Durant is a better scorer than Carmelo. And no, it's not even close.
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1975/carmelo-anthony
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3202/kevin-durant

It's close to me, gotta factor in missed shots that didn't get counted due to favorable calls as well having much better offensive options and therefore more space to score efficiently.

moe94
01-18-2014, 04:40 AM
It's close to me, gotta factor in missed shots that didn't get counted due to favorable calls as well having much better offensive options and therefore more space to score efficiently.
http://31.media.tumblr.com/ed371fb0cd3efb07a6b131bc04637987/tumblr_msh9mlOJ2h1sygx9ho1_400.gif

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-18-2014, 04:42 AM
It's close to me, gotta factor in missed shots that didn't get counted due to favorable calls as well having much better offensive options and therefore more space to score efficiently.

:blah excuses...

Without Westbrook (12 games):
38.6 Mpg
36.3 Ppg
7.5 Rpg
5.5 Apg
0.7 Bpg
1.3 Spg
2.8 Tov
.500 Fg%
.341 3p%
.879 Ft%
.634 Ts%
(credit to KG12 for these numbers)

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 04:47 AM
:blah excuses...

Without Westbrook (12 games):
38.6 Mpg
36.3 Ppg
7.5 Rpg
5.5 Apg
0.7 Bpg
1.3 Spg
2.8 Tov
.500 Fg%
.341 3p%
.879 Ft%
.634 Ts%
(credit to KG12 for these numbers)

How many fta is he averaging during that stretch?
Even without Westbrook, Durant still has much better offensive options than Melo and it's not even close.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-18-2014, 04:49 AM
Even without Westbrook, Durant still has much better offensive options than Melo and it's not even close.

Yeah OK, pal. :oldlol:

I'm done playing ring around the rosy.

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 05:00 AM
Yeah OK, pal. :oldlol:

I'm done playing ring around the rosy.

Hey, I am just trying to add context to this discussion instead of blindly pointing to stats. Team offense has a larger impact on individual scoring than some would like to admit.On Court/Off Court show the value of your team with and without a player. It's absurb how bad the Knicks are when Melo isn't playing.

Durant- http://www.82games.com/1314/1314OKC.HTM
Melo- http://www.82games.com/1314/1314NYK.HTM

moe94
01-18-2014, 05:04 AM
Hey, I am just trying to add context to this discussion instead of blindly pointing to stats. Team offense has a larger impact on individual scoring than some would like to admit.

Durant's been better than Melo ever since his 3rd year.

Prometheus
01-18-2014, 05:32 AM
Seems to be, that is the only case Durant has over Melo.

30.6 PPG on 49.4% this year
26.9 PPG on 47.6% for his career
3 consecutive scoring titles
25 years old
in his 7th season

vs

26.1 PPG on 43.8% this year
25.1 PPG on 45.5% for his career
1 scoring title
29 years old
in his 11th season

define "scorer" for me, and while you're at it, tell us what it means to "have a case over ______" at anything.

Prometheus
01-18-2014, 05:34 AM
Durant vs melo as a scorer is an easy way to know whether or not someone's opinions can be taken seriously

Alan Ogg
01-18-2014, 05:57 AM
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duranke01.html

You see all that bold? It's pretty clear who is the better scorer.

Doctor Jay
01-18-2014, 07:18 AM
Durant vs melo as a scorer is an easy way to know whether or not someone's opinions can be taken seriously

i am a knicks fan but there is no way you can put melo over durant right now or ever again - asking myself, if melo was better anytime...

ArbitraryWater
01-18-2014, 11:24 AM
Melo is a better pure scorer. Durant better in defense, which isn't saying much.

Dude, please shut up with the "pure scorer" excuse. It's ridiculous.

Im so nba'd out
01-18-2014, 04:31 PM
i am a knicks fan but there is no way you can put melo over durant right now or ever again - asking myself, if melo was better anytime...
Ya they were = when durant was younger but no more.I love how people say kd is playing with more talent rofl.When he is a better scorer without westbrook on the court.Felton and reggie jackson are = tyson>perkins jr > lamb shumpert > thabo knicks bench > thunder bench.so people need to really shut up with that arguement.If you say melo is a better scorer your a melo stan, durant hater, or you just enjoy arguing.

Kingwillball
01-18-2014, 04:34 PM
Durant is the better scorer and tougher to stop cause of his size(height)..

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 05:55 PM
Ya they were = when durant was younger but no more.I love how people say kd is playing with more talent rofl.When he is a better scorer without westbrook on the court.Felton and reggie jackson are = tyson>perkins jr > lamb shumpert > thabo knicks bench > thunder bench.so people need to really shut up with that arguement.If you say melo is a better scorer your a melo stan, durant hater, or you just enjoy arguing.

Dude reggie jackson is 10 times better than felton stop tryin to act like Durant is playing with scrubs, you can point towards stats but the fact is the knicks are -15 without melo and +1 with him and the Thunder are just as good with Durant off the floor than on. I would trade felton and shump for reggie and lamb in a second and I know you wouldn't want that trash.

Prometheus
01-18-2014, 06:46 PM
Dude reggie jackson is 10 times better than felton stop tryin to act like Durant is playing with scrubs, you can point towards stats but the fact is the knicks are -15 without melo and +1 with him and the Thunder are just as good with Durant off the floor than on. I would trade felton and shump for reggie and lamb in a second and I know you wouldn't want that trash.

I like how you didn't respond to me because you know you're wrong :cheers:

MellowYellow
01-18-2014, 07:09 PM
I like how you didn't respond to me because you know you're wrong :cheers:

You didn't say anything of value, already know the stats. Don't care. I am just upset that people are trying to downplay the talent Durant has around him which is vastly superior to what Melo has.

Im so nba'd out
01-18-2014, 08:16 PM
Dude reggie jackson is 10 times better than felton stop tryin to act like Durant is playing with scrubs, you can point towards stats but the fact is the knicks are -15 without melo and +1 with him and the Thunder are just as good with Durant off the floor than on. I would trade felton and shump for reggie and lamb in a second and I know you wouldn't want that trash.
http://i55.tinypic.com/9rh7pd.jpg

Sarcastic
01-19-2014, 02:19 AM
Felton is probably the worst pg in the NBA. Continue on with the Melo v KD talk, but don't bring up teammates because Melo's team is far far worse. Not only that but Melo has the worst coach in the NBA too.

MellowYellow
01-19-2014, 02:58 AM
Felton is probably the worst pg in the NBA. Continue on with the Melo v KD talk, but don't bring up teammates because Melo's team is far far worse. Not only that but Melo has the worst coach in the NBA too.

^this

People don't understand or don't want to believe how much of an impact coaching/teammates have on individual performance. You think Lebron would be shooting 60 percent if he were playing for the Knicks in Melo's place? I guaranfreakintee he would not be.