So KD is clearly the MVP....

[Shade8780]

But has he taken over as the best player in the league? I think KD needs to keep this up for longer until I say he's the best in the league.

[Joyner82reload]

Going by this logic, LeBron was never the best player in the league until after the 2012 Finals

[Shade8780]

Going by this logic, LeBron was never the best player in the league until after the 2012 Finals
When I think about it again, I say that he has to get far in the Playoffs, but I'll probably end up saying KD is the best player in the league if he keeps this up longer.

[Joyner82reload]

When I think about it again, I say that he has to get far in the Playoffs, but I'll probably end up saying KD is the best player in the league if he keeps this up longer.

He made the NBA Finals at the age of 23 and scored 31 a game on 55% shooting. His team failed him, unfortunately. He had just as much playoff success that year as LeBron had in his first 8 years in the league.

[Kingwillball]

He made the NBA Finals at the age of 23 and scored 31 a game on 55% shooting. His team failed him, unfortunately. He had just as much playoff success that year as LeBron had in his first 8 years in the league.


Did he ? Maybe you should recheck everything.. Stat wise Lebron was superior and also team success as Lebron was never knocked out in the first round.

[r0drig0lac]

only way to get any further than making the finals is winning

[DaSeba5]

He's not the best player yet, but he will be. He's only 25 too. Definitely the MVP though.

[Joyner82reload]

Did he ? Maybe you should recheck everything.. Stat wise Lebron was superior and also team success as Lebron was never knocked out in the first round.

Durant's playoff stats through his first 6 seasons. 29/8/4 3 TOV 59 TS%
LeBron's playoff stats through his first 8 seasons. 28/8/7 4 TOV 56 TS%

If by superior stats, you mean 1 less ppg, 3 more assists per game, .5 more TOV, and 3% less efficient, then you should probably look up the definition of superior.

And they both lost in the Finals, except it was totally LeBron's fault both times his teams lost. And LeBron played in the joke of the East. He was getting the 3-4 seed as a 50 win team. The only time Durant lost in the 1st round, his team won 50 games but was an 8 seed and got knocked out by the NBA champion Lakers. Fvck outta here clown.

[Kingwillball]

Durant's playoff stats through his first 6 seasons. 29/8/4 3 TOV 59 TS%
LeBron's playoff stats through his first 8 seasons. 28/8/7 4 TOV 56 TS%

If by superior stats, you mean 1 less ppg, 3 more assists per game, .5 more TOV, and 3% less efficient, then you should probably look up the definition of superior.

And they both lost in the Finals, except it was totally LeBron's fault both times his teams lost. And LeBron played in the joke of the East. He was getting the 3-4 seed as a 50 win team. The only time Durant lost in the 1st round, his team won 50 games but was an 8 seed and got knocked out by the NBA champion Lakers. Fvck outta here clown.


Lebron played in more games/series...:rolleyes:

[KyrieTheFuture]

There is really nothing more pathetic than Joyner and King arguing with eachother. It amazes me that they can type with so much ***** in their face.

[Joyner82reload]

Lebron played in more games/series...:rolleyes:

Oh really? I would have never guessed a guy in his 8th season would have played in more games/series than a guy in his 6th.

LeBron in his 1st 6 years beat
39-43 Pistons team team
47-35 Hawks team
42-40 Wizards team
41-41 Nets team
41-41 Wizards team
53-29 Pistons team
43-39 Wizards team

Durant in his 1st 6 years beat
45-37 Rockets team
62-20 Spurs team
51-31 Lakers team
44-38 Mavs team
50-32 Nuggets team
46-36 Grizzlies team

LeBron had 1 more playoff series victory, and Durant's all star teammate got hurt or else they make it to the Finals again last year.

[pauk]

Going by this logic, LeBron was never the best player in the league until after the 2012 Finals

Lebron actually had to win the MVP twice (not just be ahead in a MVP race midseason) and had to be overall better than Kobe on both ends in the regular season + playoffs while Kobe clearly was not coasting (which Lebron is right now)... he had to do this for many years just to ONLY earn the right to be in the "best player discussion" with Kobe.... and he still didnt become officially "best player" until he also won the championship/fmvp.....

I love KD, but 40 regular season games is not something that signs of such a back-to-back MVP/FMVP/Champion.... a couple of cool statistical performances due to Westbrook being out and which Lebron was not being able to match due to his coasting nature in the regular season is not enough....

[Magic 32]

Lebron actually had to win the MVP twice (not just be ahead in a MVP race midseason) and had to be overall better than Kobe on both ends in the regular season + playoffs while Kobe clearly was not coasting (which Lebron is right now)...

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/lakers-reaction-kobe.gif

Minutes played:

http://s29.postimg.org/puktt0s13/Nyt_billede.jpg

[knicksman]

Did he ? Maybe you should recheck everything.. Stat wise Lebron was superior and also team success as Lebron was never knocked out in the first round.

then you just show how low IQ lebron fanboys are . Theres a reason why its called leastern conference

[swagga]

why don't you give him a ring?
I mean with westbrook healthy, ibaka improving, reggie jackson and steven adams not sucking and Him playin like sweet baby jesus they 100% ring.

You can't be serious dem scrubass spurs will beat dem right? :lol

Inb4 second round exit, you know you fear it but do talk shit. please.

[swagga]

and dat scrub lecrab surely ain't touchin FT jesus KD so he better step down now 4 the new king, right?:lol :lol :lol

[lebeast666]

LeBron had 1 more playoff series victory, and Durant's all star teammate got hurt or else they make it to the Finals again last year.


Something LeBron wasn't fortunate to have until he got to Miami. Dont bring up "team was perfectly built around him". Where those "elite" players at now?

[knicksman]

Something LeBron wasn't fortunate to have until he got to Miami. Dont bring up "team was perfectly built around him". Where those "elite" players at now?


where was lebron w/o mo?

[PsychoBe]

Lebron actually had to win the MVP twice (not just be ahead in a MVP race midseason) and had to be overall better than Kobe on both ends in the regular season + playoffs while Kobe clearly was not coasting (which Lebron is right now)... he had to do this for many years just to ONLY earn the right to be in the "best player discussion" with Kobe.... and he still didnt become officially "best player" until he also won the championship/fmvp.....

I love KD, but 40 regular season games is not something that signs of such a back-to-back MVP/FMVP/Champion.... a couple of cool statistical performances due to Westbrook being out and which Lebron was not being able to match due to his coasting nature in the regular season is not enough....

disgusting post. durant is bar none the best player in the league right now. only thing left for him to do is completely outplay lebron in their h-2-h matchups coming up and there will be no more debate.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw2z45z4Jg1qi8ijoo1_500.jpg

[lebeast666]

where was lebron w/o mo?

we talking bout Mo? really...might as well talk about pavlobitch

[Solefade]

disgusting post. durant is bar none the best player in the league right now. only thing left for him to do is completely outplay lebron in their h-2-h matchups coming up and there will be no more debate.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw2z45z4Jg1qi8ijoo1_500.jpg

uhm yeah lets wait until KD wins their h2h matchups and wins a couple MVPs before we start calling him the best player in the league. he's clearly playing the best ball right now though.

[Magic 32]

Something LeBron wasn't fortunate to have until he got to Miami. Dont bring up "team was perfectly built around him". Where those "elite" players at now?

A one man-show for sure, but the team was perfectly build for a ball dominant playmaker.

His teammates could shot and defend.

All you needed to get to the finals in the 00 east.

http://www.sportsposterwarehouse.com/catImages/76ers02cos-1.jpg

[Illuminati]

LeBron's Orlando series in 09 >>>>> anything Durant has done in the playoffs thus far.

[k0kakw0rld]

Lebron actually had to win the MVP twice (not just be ahead in a MVP race midseason) and had to be overall better than Kobe on both ends in the regular season + playoffs while Kobe clearly was not coasting (which Lebron is right now)... he had to do this for many years just to ONLY earn the right to be in the "best player discussion" with Kobe.... and he still didnt become officially "best player" until he also won the championship/fmvp.....

I love KD, but 40 regular season games is not something that signs of such a back-to-back MVP/FMVP/Champion.... a couple of cool statistical performances due to Westbrook being out and which Lebron was not being able to match due to his coasting nature in the regular season is not enough....
I agree

[Magic 32]

LeBron's Orlando series in 09 >>>>> anything Durant has done in the playoffs thus far.

You guys sure love that one.

Too bad he lost to a team that wouldn't even make it out of the WCSF in 09.

[Illuminati]

You guys sure love that one.

Too bad he lost to a team that wouldn't even make it out of the WCSF in 09.

He put up better stats than Kobe did to the same team in the Finals.

[Magic 32]

He put up better stats than Kobe did to the same team in the Finals.

No need for great stats when you blow out your opponent in 3 quarters (game 1 & 5)

Kobe had 36 pts 7 reb 7 ast after 30 min. in game 1.

[Mr Feeny]

No need for great stats when you blow out your opponent in 3 quarters (game 1 & 5)

Kobe had 36 pts 7 reb 7 ast after 30 min. in game 1.

38.5, 8, 8 on 48% shooting. That last number must look especially large to a fan of a 41% fg shooter in the finals:oldlol:

What did he shoot vs Orlando in 2009? 43% ?:roll:

[Magic 32]

38.5, 8, 8 on 48% shooting. That last number must look especially large to a fan of a 41% fg shooter in the finals:oldlol:



Did Lebron shot 48% in the finals?

News to me.

[Kingwillball]

disgusting post. durant is bar none the best player in the league right now. only thing left for him to do is completely outplay lebron in their h-2-h matchups coming up and there will be no more debate.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw2z45z4Jg1qi8ijoo1_500.jpg

Keep dreaming if u think Lebron will let Durant score all over him..on other hand Durant can't guard Lebron one on one..

[LA_Showtime]

Let's see how LeBron performs in the playoffs first. It's easy to get bored of LeBron simply because he's been good for so long. At this point he's putting up like 25/8/8 and everyone is calling him out for coasting.

[Joyner82reload]

Keep dreaming if u think Lebron will let Durant score all over him..on other hand Durant can't guard Lebron one on one..

Uh...Durant averaged 31 on 55 FG% in the Finals vs LeBron. And LeBron shot 9-27 when guarded by Durant that series...

[Mr Feeny]

Did Lebron shot 48% in the finals?

News to me.

He shot 48% against the team Kobe faced in the finals a round later and onky managed to shooot 43% against:applause:

[Kingwillball]

Stop making crap up Durant can't gaurd Lebron.

[Bandito]

Uh...Durant averaged 31 on 55 FG% in the Finals vs LeBron. And LeBron shot 9-27 when guarded by Durant that series...
That ether...:bowdown:

[Joyner82reload]

Stop making crap up Durant can't gaurd Lebron.

LOL...and that was 2 years ago, Durant was 70% of the player then he is now.

[Mr Feeny]

Uh...Durant averaged 31 on 55 FG% in the Finals vs LeBron. And LeBron shot 9-27 when guarded by Durant that series...

Is that 9-27 number true? Where did you get it from? I believe you. Just curious though.

[Magic 32]

He shot 48% against the team Kobe faced in the finals a round later and onky managed to shooot 43% against:applause:

Bragging about 5%

Thats a Lebron fan alright :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Joyner82reload]

Is that 9-27 number true? Where did you get it from? I believe you. Just curious though.

Realgm, it was widely discussed. They had a thread showing every possession they guarded each other with end results. LeBron settled for a lot of long jump shots when guarded by Durant and couldn't shoot over his length

[Mr Feeny]

Bragging about 5%

Thats a Lebron fan alright :roll: :roll: :roll:

Hmm...more points, more rebounds, more assists, better shooting. U mad bro?

[LeBron 06]

Realgm, it was widely discussed. They had a thread showing every possession they guarded each other with end results. LeBron settled for a lot of long jump shots when guarded by Durant and couldn't shoot over his length


But KD was in foul trouble in game 2 and 3 because of LeBron

[Magic 32]

Hmm...more points, more rebounds, more assists, better shooting. U mad bro?

"The only stats that matters are winning stats" - Charlie Rosen

http://nationalbasketblogassociation.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/lebron-walks-off.jpg%3Fw%3D468%26h%3D297

[Mr Feeny]

Realgm, it was widely discussed. They had a thread showing every possession they guarded each other with end results. LeBron settled for a lot of long jump shots when guarded by Durant and couldn't shoot over his length

Yup I know I was on realgm. But that isnt offical though. Did they mention it on the stats secrion of the recap on the espn page for the series or did people just collect the info by going through the games?

[Mr Feeny]

http://nationalbasketblogassociation.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/lebron-walks-off.jpg%3Fw%3D468%26h%3D297

4 mvps. Keep crying:banana:

[Joyner82reload]

But KD was in foul trouble in game 2 and 3 because of LeBron

Game 2
Shooting foul by K. Durant (drawn by C. Bosh)
Shooting foul by K. Durant (drawn by D. Wade)
Offensive charge foul by K. Durant (drawn by S. Battier)
Shooting foul by K. Durant (drawn by L. James)
Loose ball foul by K. Durant (drawn by U. Haslem)

Game 3
Offensive charge foul by K. Durant (drawn by D. Wade)
Shooting foul by K. Durant (drawn by L. James)
Personal foul by K. Durant (drawn by L. James)
Shooting foul by K. Durant (drawn by D. Wade)
Offensive charge foul by K. Durant (drawn by S. Battier)

10 fouls, 3 on LeBron. Clearly. Anything else you LeBron fans want to make up to go along with your story?

[Magic 32]

4 mvps. Keep crying:banana:

Rings are won.

MVP's are handed out by these guys...

http://us.123rf.com/450wm/stokkete/stokkete1306/stokkete130600093/20143176-nerd-student-journalist-and-his-typewriter.jpg

[Kingwillball]

Lebron is the better player until
Proven otherwise head to head especially in finals why is anybody saying anything differently is because they want to start useless threads or posts. Like i stated it is was that KD will be an afterthought in Lebrons era. Lebron will finish as a top 5 player all time Durant as of now not even top 20.

[Joyner82reload]

Lebron is the better player until
Proven otherwise head to head especially in finals why is anybody saying anything differently is because they want to start useless threads or posts. Like i stated it is was that KD will be an afterthought in Lebrons era. Lebron will finish as a top 5 player all time Durant as of now not even top 20.

This is Durant's era. He will go down as the GOAT, LeBron won't even be considered top 15 after Durant destroys him from this point forward. It will change how he was viewed up until this point as well.

See I can make stupid shit up as well

[Kingwillball]

This is Durant's era. He will go down as the GOAT, LeBron won't even be considered top 15 after Durant destroys him from this point forward. It will change how he was viewed up until this point as well.

See I can make stupid shit up as well

Your an idiot u know it wont happen cause Lebron is a SUPERIOR player..case closed

[Joyner82reload]

Your an idiot u know it wont happen cause Lebron is a SUPERIOR player..case closed

Your an idiot u know it will happen cause Durant is a SUPERIOR player..case closed

[Mr Feeny]

Lebron and Durant will both end up top ten players when its all said and done. I still think Durant has got some ways to go to match Lebron, and I do think that Lebron will go down as the better player overall, but Durant hasn't peaked yet. We have no idea hoe good he can be. Lets just wait and see how this plays out. Its a pleasure to have both play in the NBA and ill keep enjoying the shows they're puttting on.

[zoom17]

When do the Heat play OKC cant wait for that game.

[Illuminati]

When do the Heat play OKC that cant wait for that game.

Wednesday the 29th.

[zoom17]

Wednesday the 29th.

at okc or Miami?

[jimmy77x]

Your an idiot u know it wont happen cause Lebron is a SUPERIOR player..case closed

Kingwillball displaying his full Stan repertoire. Gotta admire that dedication. Pledged his soul to lebron and going to stick by his man to the very end :lol

[Combat Wombat]

When do the Heat play OKC cant wait for that boxscore.

Fixed.

[Illuminati]

at okc or Miami?

Miami.

[Magic 32]

Fixed.

http://gifs.gifbin.com/012010/reverse-1264591971_brendan_frase_clap.gif

[NumberSix]

If Miami beats Charlotte tonight, LeBron is back at the top.

[Magic 32]

If Miami beats Charlotte tonight, LeBron is back at the top.

http://gifs.gifbin.com/012010/reverse-1264591971_brendan_frase_clap.gif

[Bandito]

Kingwillball vs Joyner is a nerd battle for the ages.

[k0kakw0rld]

This is Durant's era. He will go down as the GOAT, LeBron won't even be considered top 15 after Durant destroys him from this point forward. It will change how he was viewed up until this point as well.

See I can make stupid shit up as well
January 29th is the date everybody's waiting for.

[Cold soul]

If Miami beats Charlotte tonight, LeBron is back at the top.

:roll:

[Mr Feeny]

:roll:

http://thesportsflush.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/lebron-mvp-finals-16x9.jpg

[moe94]

If Miami beats Charlotte tonight, LeBron is back at the top.
:oldlol:

[KG215]

January 29th is the date everybody's waiting for.
You mean the game in Miami where Durant won't have Westbrook?

[chazzy]

You mean the game in Miami where Durant won't have Westbrook?
Yeah the 2nd matchup will be a better test. Durant doesn't have much to lose unless he plays like shit

[Zyzz]

Lebron motivated by Durant's Play...

"Nah, I ain't beyond that. I ain't beyond that at all," James said. "I love when I see K.D. do something like that. It gives me an incentive. I don't get that many shots around here, but I might be able to do a little something. I might be able to get a couple of dunks."

I don't get that many shots around here :facepalm

I love the subliminal jab at KD suggesting he's in a more favorable position b/c he gets too shoot more. :facepalm

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/10315594/lebron-james-miami-heat-motivated-kevin-durant-recent-hot-streak

[KDthunderup]

You don't get that many shots because you can't get your shot off as well as KD and worry about fg% too much

[LA_Showtime]

I am so sick of LeBron passive-aggressively complaining that the only reason Durant is ahead of him in the MVP race is because he doesn't get as many shots. Give me a break. :oldlol:

[KDthunderup]

I am so sick of LeBron passive-aggressively complaining that the only reason Durant is ahead of him in the MVP race is because he doesn't get as many shots. Give me a break. :oldlol:
Its about as bad as lebron fans saying KD is only ahead because Lebron is 'coasting' :oldlol:

[Kingwillball]

Its about as bad as lebron fans saying KD is only ahead because Lebron is 'coasting' :oldlol:


well that is KIND OF true..

[chazzy]

Lebron motivated by Durant's Play...

"Nah, I ain't beyond that. I ain't beyond that at all," James said. "I love when I see K.D. do something like that. It gives me an incentive. I don't get that many shots around here, but I might be able to do a little something. I might be able to get a couple of dunks."

:oldlol:

[Kingwillball]

Kingwillball vs Joyner is a nerd battle for the ages.


If I was a nerd I guess that would be true.. :roll eyes:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Lebron motivated by Durant's Play...

"Nah, I ain't beyond that. I ain't beyond that at all," James said. "I love when I see K.D. do something like that. It gives me an incentive. I don't get that many shots around here, but I might be able to do a little something. I might be able to get a couple of dunks."

I don't get that many shots around here :facepalm

I love the subliminal jab at KD suggesting he's in a more favorable position b/c he gets too shoot more. :facepalm

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/10315594/lebron-james-miami-heat-motivated-kevin-durant-recent-hot-streak

FFS Lebron, just play your game. :facepalm