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Hamtaro CP3KDKG
01-20-2014, 03:33 PM
Larry Bird - Kevin Mchale, Ainge and Parish
KG - Porkins
Kobe - Odom, Ariza, Pau and Bynum

AnaheimLakers24
01-20-2014, 03:34 PM
dwayne wade/bosh - lebron and chalmers

IncarceratedBob
01-20-2014, 03:34 PM
Hakeem - Drexler
Duncan- David Robinson

ImKobe
01-20-2014, 03:37 PM
Shaq - Kobe

NumberSix
01-20-2014, 03:37 PM
Shaq - Kobe
:bowdown: :roll:

Im so nba'd out
01-20-2014, 03:38 PM
jordan made pippen

KendrickPerkins
01-20-2014, 03:38 PM
In terms of championships? Or how much they've made certain players better?

LeBron - Daniel Gibson, Mo Wiliams, Zydrunas Ilgauskas

Wade and Bosh - LeBron

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
01-20-2014, 03:38 PM
Shaq - Kobe
Shaq 1 rang without Kobe as the beta
Kobe 2 rangs w/o Shaq as the alpha

NumberSix
01-20-2014, 03:40 PM
Shaq 1 rang without Kobe as the beta
Kobe 2 rangs w/o Shaq as the alpha
Shaq - 3 rings as the Alpha.

ImKobe
01-20-2014, 04:13 PM
Shaq 1 rang without Kobe as the beta
Kobe 2 rangs w/o Shaq as the alpha

Shaq was 32 when he left LA, Kobe was 25 years old. And he only won 1 more title? Pathetic.

KungFuJoe
01-20-2014, 04:33 PM
Ray Allen saved LeChoke's career.

Stringer Bell
01-20-2014, 06:50 PM
No one.

J Shuttlesworth
01-20-2014, 06:51 PM
In terms of championships? Or how much they've made certain players better?

LeBron - Daniel Gibson, Mo Wiliams, Zydrunas Ilgauskas

Wade and Bosh - LeBron
So Bosh would have a championship without Bron?

BuffaloBill
01-20-2014, 06:52 PM
We wouldn't even be talking about Lebron right now if it weren't for Wade and Bosh.

oarabbus
01-20-2014, 06:52 PM
Rondo - (aging) KG

215Philly
01-20-2014, 06:56 PM
Kobe/Shane Dwight/Perkins

SamuraiSWISH
01-20-2014, 07:07 PM
Pippen thanks to Jordan

Bandito
01-20-2014, 07:07 PM
Jameer - Dwight

YouGotServed
01-20-2014, 07:08 PM
Shaq - Kobe

True :roll:

GOATbe
01-20-2014, 07:09 PM
Wade,Ray Allen - Lebron

mugiwara
01-20-2014, 07:10 PM
Shaq>kobe>fisher

ArbitraryWater
01-20-2014, 07:16 PM
Joke of a thread so far


Bird making McHale and Parish :facepalm

Jordan made pippen huh :facepalm

lol at who kobe made too

LeBron made MO WILLIAMS. Thats a fact. He was his supposed "sidekick", now he should be in his prime, yet is a 3rd string pg... not even top 100 best today.

Boarder Patrol
01-20-2014, 07:18 PM
Ray, Rio, Bosh, Wade, Battier, etc. - LeBron. All sacrificed personal stats to get the man everyone thought of as a consensus cancer/stat padder/perennial loser a ring.

:applause:

Deuce Bigalow
01-20-2014, 08:48 PM
Shaq made it to the Finals without Kobe
Drexler made it to two Finals without Hakeem
Robinson won an MVP without Duncan

kenny817
01-20-2014, 09:03 PM
Dirk - Tyson Chandler, Jason Terry

G-Funk
01-20-2014, 09:04 PM
Wade Bosh > Lebron

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
01-20-2014, 09:04 PM
Dirk - Tyson Chandler, Jason Terry
This is true especially Terry. Terry was never a good let alone great player.

nycjeff45
01-20-2014, 09:23 PM
jason kidd...kenyon and jefferson, two bs allstars...

20Four
01-20-2014, 09:41 PM
Shaq - Kobe


http://i.imgur.com/moj9Slk.jpg

Sorry buddy..that says it all...

Numbersix you are the worst troll on this fukkin message board...ur hate for kobe cracks me up

russwest0
01-20-2014, 09:44 PM
LeBron made MO WILLIAMS. Thats a fact. He was his supposed "sidekick", now he should be in his prime, yet is a 3rd string pg... not even top 100 best today.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Mo Williams stats before playing with LeBron:

17/6/4, 48%

Mo Williams stats after playing with LeBron:

18/4/3, 46%

russwest0
01-20-2014, 09:44 PM
Dwight/Perkins

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
01-20-2014, 09:46 PM
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Mo Williams stats before playing with LeBron:

17/6/4, 48%

Mo Williams stats after playing with LeBron:

18/4/3, 46%
:applause: :applause: :applause:
And these Lebron dckriders put down Varejao too:oldlol:

He was avging 14/14/3 on an easily allstar level pace before getting injured last season and he beasted in 12 too

Lebron23
01-20-2014, 09:51 PM
Dominant Front Court, and Phil Jackson = Kobrick Bryant. How can you win an NBA Finals MVP while shooting 40% from the field??

ssginc
01-20-2014, 09:57 PM
Larry Bird - Kevin Mchale, Ainge and Parish
KG - Porkins
Kobe - Odom, Ariza, Pau and Bynum


What a terrible post.

Y2ktors
01-20-2014, 10:00 PM
Michael Jordan- Randy Brown, Jud Buechler

Mr. Jabbar
01-20-2014, 10:00 PM
Kobe - Pau
- Ammo
- Vujacic
- Odom
- Ariza
- Bynum


Wade - Bran

Allen - Bran

Bran - Terry

215Philly
01-20-2014, 10:04 PM
Lebron/Diaw

Lebron23
01-20-2014, 10:10 PM
http://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/4920970629_7fb8758dbc-jpg.jpe

Without Shaq's Alpha Male rings = Kobe with 2 rings - officially out of the top 10.

russwest0
01-20-2014, 10:11 PM
http://nesncom.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/4920970629_7fb8758dbc-jpg.jpe

Without Shaq rings = Kobe with 2 rings - officially out of the top 10.

2 FMVP's without Shaq.

And LeBron without Wade...?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Mr. Jabbar
01-20-2014, 10:14 PM
it cant be said shaq made kobe, shaq had little team success before kobe exploded, its just simple math

Lebron23
01-20-2014, 10:14 PM
2 FMVP's without Shaq.

And LeBron without Wade...?

:roll: :roll: :roll:


Lebron was the best player while Kobe was a sidekick aka robin aka Pippen rings.

Black and White
01-20-2014, 10:15 PM
Kobe - Pau
- Ammo
- Vujacic
- Odom
- Ariza
- Bynum


Wade - Bran

Allen - Bran

Bran - Terry

:oldlol:

Black and White
01-20-2014, 10:15 PM
Lebron was the best player while Kobe was a sidekick aka robin aka Pippen rings.

What is LeBron without Ray Allen? 1/4 in the finals.

Suguru101
01-20-2014, 10:18 PM
Shaq - Kobe

:bowdown:

Lebron23
01-20-2014, 10:23 PM
What is LeBron without Ray Allen? 1/4 in the finals.


what's kobe and shaq's finals record without Horry and fisher??

Kobe is the Ultimate Beta.

Deuce Bigalow
01-20-2014, 10:23 PM
Dominant Front Court, and Phil Jackson = Kobrick Bryant. How can you win an NBA Finals MVP while shooting 40% from the field??
Lebron without teaming up with 2 all-stars shot 35% in his lone Finals while getting swept and beat only one 50-win playoff team.

Black and White
01-20-2014, 10:25 PM
what's kobe and shaq's finals record without Horry and fisher??

Kobe is the Ultimate Beta.

I would consider teaming up with rivals a beta move wouldn't you?

If you can't beat them, join them.

ZoPunde
01-20-2014, 10:27 PM
Hakeem - Drexler
Duncan- David Robinson

tony parker, manu

ZoPunde
01-20-2014, 10:31 PM
Dirk - Tyson Chandler, Jason Terry

What do you mean? Dirk wouldn't have won shit if tyson didn't shut down the paint like he did.

215Philly
01-20-2014, 10:31 PM
Westbrook/Durant

Lebron23
01-20-2014, 10:36 PM
Lebron without teaming up with 2 all-stars shot 35% in his lone Finals while getting swept and beat only one 50-win playoff team.

Lebron in his first NBA Finals appearance >>> Kobe in his first NBA Finals appearance. Both of them shot under 37% from the field.

2000 NBA Finals

Kobe - 15.6 ppg 4.6 rpg, 4.2 apg, 1.0 spg, 1.4 bpg on 36.7 FG%

2007 NBA Finals

LBJ - 22 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 6.8 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.5 bpg on 35.6 FG%

houston
01-20-2014, 10:59 PM
Sam cassell made Kevin Garnett a mvp:applause:

kenny817
01-20-2014, 11:03 PM
What do you mean? Dirk wouldn't have won shit if tyson down the paint like he did.

Tyson didn't shut down anything. He was in foul trouble over half of the 21 playoff games that year.

Brendan Haywood damn near played better than and MORE than Chandler did

Let's not talk about how GOATbrook OUTREBOUNDED Chandler in the WCF. Yea a 6'3 PG outrebounding a 7'1 Center.

I should know...I went to every home playoff game that year.

Don't ever address me again you noob

cos88
01-20-2014, 11:11 PM
http://s29.postimg.org/ib6wcdswn/b_HYMy_NV.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

ihatetimthomas
01-20-2014, 11:29 PM
Dominant Front Court, and Phil Jackson = Kobrick Bryant. How can you win an NBA Finals MVP while shooting 40% from the field??

The Celtics had the best defense in the league. What do you expect when they make Kobe the focal point on defense? Its not like he was not impacting the game in other ways. When his shot was down, he was rebounding, playing D, giving it his all. Only a true basher with no knowledge of the game points out all the negatives.

You are whats wrong with fans. Lebron dick rider that goes out of your way to bash other stars. If Lebron joined up with the Lakers, you would be in love with Kobe and go out of your way to praise him. Remember how you used to love the Cavs when Lebron was there? You are as pathetic as they come.

BrownEye007
01-20-2014, 11:35 PM
Rondo - (aging) KG

Rondo was and still is garbage. Got super overrated playing with the big 3.

20Four
01-20-2014, 11:42 PM
http://i.imgur.com/moj9Slk.jpg

TRY AGAIN DUMBSHITS!

Black and White
01-20-2014, 11:43 PM
Rondo was and still is garbage. Got super overrated playing with the big 3.

Are you serious?????

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
01-20-2014, 11:45 PM
tony parker, manu
Manu led argentina over usa led by duncan and fouled him out owned him. Duncan didnt make sht

NumberSix
01-20-2014, 11:55 PM
Manu led argentina over usa led by duncan and fouled him out owned him. Duncan didnt make sht
Didn't Walter Herman lead that team?

Lebron23
01-21-2014, 12:01 AM
The Celtics had the best defense in the league. What do you expect when they make Kobe the focal point on defense? Its not like he was not impacting the game in other ways. When his shot was down, he was rebounding, playing D, giving it his all. Only a true basher with no knowledge of the game points out all the negatives.

You are whats wrong with fans. Lebron dick rider that goes out of your way to bash other stars. If Lebron joined up with the Lakers, you would be in love with Kobe and go out of your way to praise him. Remember how you used to love the Cavs when Lebron was there? You are as pathetic as they come.


Welcome back Monamie!!

LBJ put up better stats than Kobe against the 08 celtics, 09 magic, and 10 celtics. Lakers won because gasol, bynum, and odom were better than Mo Williams and Varejao.

G-Funk
01-21-2014, 12:12 AM
The whole 11' Mavs team - Lebron

G-Funk
01-21-2014, 12:13 AM
Lebron in his first NBA Finals appearance >>> Kobe in his first NBA Finals appearance. Both of them shot under 37% from the field.

2000 NBA Finals

Kobe - 15.6 ppg 4.6 rpg, 4.2 apg, 1.0 spg, 1.4 bpg on 36.7 FG%

2007 NBA Finals

LBJ - 22 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 6.8 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.5 bpg on 35.6 FG%
Kobe was playing on one leg, failed attempt

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/2000/playoffs/news/2000/06/09/bryant_injury_ap/?mobile=no

Lebron23
01-21-2014, 12:19 AM
Kobe was playing on one leg, failed attempt

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/2000/playoffs/news/2000/06/09/bryant_injury_ap/?mobile=no


I know, But Bron played with Ilgauskas while Kobe played with the 2nd most dominant finals performer in NBA History.

Illuminati
01-21-2014, 12:21 AM
http://i.imgur.com/moj9Slk.jpg

TRY AGAIN DUMBSHITS!

That was 2001. Shaq made Kobe in 2000. Do the math.

TMT
01-21-2014, 12:21 AM
I know, But Bron played with Ilgauskas while Kobe played with the 2nd most dominant finals performer in NBA History.

That's why Kobe got a ring and Lebron didn't win a game in the Finals until 2011. What does that have to do with stats though? :confusedshrug:

G-Funk
01-21-2014, 12:23 AM
I know, But Bron played with Ilgauskas while Kobe played with the 2nd most dominant finals performer in NBA History.

That's why Lakers still won, but it doesn't take the fact away that Kobe perform on 1 leg for 4 games in the finals

Audio One
01-21-2014, 12:24 AM
Manu led argentina over usa led by duncan and fouled him out owned him. Duncan didnt make sht

Duncan made Manu's career. No Duncan = No HOF for Pinochio :applause:

Lebron23
01-21-2014, 12:24 AM
That's why Kobe got a ring and Lebron didn't win a game in the Finals until 2011. What does that have to do with stats though? :confusedshrug:


Are you saying that Big z was the same level as the Real Superman??

TMT
01-21-2014, 12:25 AM
Are you saying that Big z was the same level as the Real Superman??

The fμck are you talking about? Can you read?

G-Funk
01-21-2014, 12:30 AM
Kobe only played 9 minutes in game 2,took 3 shots, u don't think that screws his Finals stats and the fact that he played the rest of the series injured.

Yao Ming's Foot
01-21-2014, 12:31 AM
Welcome back Monamie!!

LBJ put up better stats than Kobe against the 08 celtics, 09 magic, and 10 celtics. Lakers won because gasol, bynum, and odom were better than Mo Williams and Varejao.

I ran the numbers before. The Lakers offense was equally efficient as the Cavs offense against the Magic in the playoffs. They won due to better defense.