Prime D-Wade or current Durant?

[gyu]

Wade 08-09: 30.2 PPG (49.1% fg), 5rpg, 7.5 apg, 2.2spg, 1.3bpg

Durant 13-14: 30.6 PPG (49.7% fg), 7.8rpg, 5.1 apg, 1.6spg, 0.9bpg

Go.

[moe94]

Wade's defense and playmaking puts him over and cleanly.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Wade's defense and playmaking puts him over and cleanly.
Wades not a better defender.

KD is a tier above him. Far better scorer, shooter, better in halfcourt, better defender and rebounder. Wades the better ball handler and passer. 2012 KD VS prime Wade is more comparable.

[ssginc]

Not sure who I would take but after looking at those stats I almost forgot just how dominant Wade was, when he teamed up with Lebron and Bosh.

[Black and White]

Prime D Wade was a beast

[moe94]

You must be deluded if you think Durant is a better defender. Jesus Christ.

[Joyner82reload]

This is Durant. Durant's far superior as a scorer, which puts him over the top.

[red1]

I would take 09 wade. Durant has been impressing me lately but not as much as dwade did that year

[Cold soul]

Wade 09 for me, he was the better all around player.

[red1]

Wades not a better defender.

KD is a tier above him. Far better scorer, shooter, better in halfcourt, better defender and rebounder. Wades the better ball handler and passer. 2012 KD VS prime Wade is more comparable.
you are one of the worst posters here jesus f*cking christ

[LAClipsFan33]

I would take 09 wade. Durant has been impressing me lately but not as much as dwade did that year

This. He beasted across the board. Stat that impressed me the most was 100 blocks from SG

[moe94]

you are one of the worst posters here jesus f*cking christ
A tier above!

:biggums:

[BigMacAttack]

Not sure who I would take but after looking at those stats I almost forgot just how dominant Wade was, when he teamed up with Lebron and Bosh.

So Beta.


Its almost to hard for me to call, Prime Wade was so awesome. Durant for his length, the matchup problems he causes are an advantage.

[Illuminati]

Wade's defense and playmaking puts him over and cleanly.

Cosign this.

[215Philly]

Wades not a better defender.

KD is a tier above him. Far better scorer, shooter, better in halfcourt, better defender and rebounder. Wades the better ball handler and passer. 2012 KD VS prime Wade is more comparable.
:milton

[ArbitraryWater]

Wade's defense easily puts him over. Was 3rd as DPOY.

Playmaking better too.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Gotta see how Durant performs this playoffs. As it stands now, I would go w/ Wade.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

You must be deluded if you think Durant is a better defender. Jesus Christ.
Gambling for steals and flashy shotblocking doesnt mean youre a better defender. The Heat had a much better defensive system. KD is the 2nd best defender on the team now behind Ibaka a top 3 defense that didnt lose a step defensively after Westbrook went down. Hes locked down Harden, Gay, Iggy and Lee this past week+ alone.

[livingby3's]

Players like Flash, STAT, AI, DWill, people tend to forget how good they were in their primes because of their struggles towards the later half of their careers. Sure they do not have longevity like Kobe, Nash, Duncan. But these guys were beasts in their primes.

That said, I'd take Wade. But KD isn't far behind either, and he definitely have the tools to peak better.

[PJR]

Durant's been great, but let me know when he has a stretch of production like this across the board for a month.

http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j414/44448888/wade.jpg

Averages during that stretch:

37.2 ppg
5.9 rpg
10.4 apg
2.9 spg
1.4 bpg
.553 fg%
.419 3pt%
.865 ft%
41.85 eff

[Mass Debator]

^^^^ What he said

[moe94]

Good look, PJR.

[Lebron23]

Give me 2009 Wade. That was a Jordanesque statsline, and he was clearly the best defender in the SG position. No disrespect to Durant who's likely going win his first Maurice Podoloff Trophy.

[Angel Face]

Prime D-Wade was great that's why Lebron accepted the role on being his sidekick.

I will still pick Durant tho, D-Wade has already shown what his capable of and that's his limit. He won't be getting better anymore, while Durant is still rising and entering his prime. We still don't know what he's really capable of.

[Lebron23]

Durant's been great, but let me know when he has a stretch of production like this across the board for a month.

http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j414/44448888/wade.jpg

Averages during that stretch:

37.2 ppg
5.9 rpg
10.4 apg
2.9 spg
1.4 bpg
.553 fg%
.419 3pt%
.865 ft%
41.85 eff


People easily forget than Prime Wade was putting up godly stats.

http://www.landinails.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/dwyane-wade-mvp-2009-kvwqaixb.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVkK2IczP2g

[SilkkTheShocker]

Wade.

Durant will never win a title

[JohnFreeman]

Wade

[Lebron23]

Prime D-Wade was great that's why Lebron accepted the role on being his sidekick.

I will still pick Durant tho, D-Wade has already shown what his capable of and that's his limit. He won't be getting better anymore, while Durant is still rising and entering his prime. We still don't know what he's really capable of.


This is serious trolling. LBJ's was the heat's undisputed player in the 2012, and 2013 NBA Season. ( Regular season, playoffs, and NBA Finals).

[JohnFreeman]

D Wade can lead a team to championship. Westbrook probably could though

[IncarceratedBob]

People easily forget than Prime Wade was putting up godly stats.

http://www.landinails.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/dwyane-wade-mvp-2009-kvwqaixb.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVkK2IczP2g
That picture is from the '06 Finals. You are such a fake Miami fan. It's incredible. Anyway it's Wade easily, best player in the league aside from KB who I give an advantage to due to being on an elite squad.

[moe94]

That picture is from the '06 Finals. You are such a fake Miami fan. It's incredible. Anyway it's Wade easily, best player in the league aside from KB who I give an advantage to due to being on an elite squad.
06 Wade wasn't prime Wade?

Better yet, why does it matter if he used that pic? At what point does he imply it was 09 Wade?

[NumberSix]

Wade

[sc19]

FMVP > the loser with none. Also, Wade is much more exciting to watch than KD's freethrow game.

[NumberSix]

From now on, when I judge KD, I'm removing all FTs from the equation.

[BigMacAttack]

FMVP > the loser with none. Also, Wade is much more exciting to watch than KD's freethrow game.

:facepalm

Do you see the irony here?

Dwhistle got his finals MVP gifted to him at the FT line

[NumberSix]

:facepalm

Do you see the irony here?

Dwhistle got his finals MVP gifted to him at the FT line
D Wade is straight doe...

Wade > Durant

[aj1987]

:facepalm

Do you see the irony here?

Dwhistle got his finals MVP gifted to him at the FT line
Wade was gifted a single series. Durant is getting gifted an entire season. KD - Refs = OKC is a lottery team.

[BigMacAttack]

Wade was gifted a single series. Durant is getting gifted an entire season. KD - Refs = OKC is a lottery team.


Nice one.

[houston]

Durant of course

[Illuminati]

Wade was gifted a single series. Durant is getting gifted an entire season. KD - Refs = OKC is a lottery team.
:roll: :roll:

[Legends66NBA7]

Thread should be titled 08-09 Wade vs Current Durant.

I'll await the playoffs to make the decision. Wade played pretty well after the all-star break that year, but didn't play at the same level during the playoffs. If Durant does the opposite of what 08-09 Wade did in the playoffs, he should be the choice.

[Lebron23]

@incarceratedBob

2006 wade was also prime wade. Prime wade (2005-06 to 2010.)

[Milbuck]

Tyrone

[LongLiveTheKing]

D-Wade easily.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Wade avged 10 free frows a game in his prime before Bosh/Bron came (05-10 with 2 10+FT seasons). In the playoff it was the same story
KD from 2010 is averaging 1 less FT a game but hes still making more since hes that much better as a shooter

[Boarder Patrol]

Durant is a great defender, but not very close to '09 Wade. He was pretty deservedly mentioned in DPOY talks.

I give this one to Wade, he was the MVP that year IMO.

[Jameerthefear]

Wade, but Durant's prime will definitely be better.

[BigMacAttack]

Peak Wade couldnt get out of the first round in the weak ass east.

[moe94]

Peak Wade couldnt get out of the first round in the weak ass east.

Look at his team. I cannot believe they even made it that far.

[Papaya Petee]

Wade takes this one

http://i42.tinypic.com/2hhnf5t.jpg

[BigMacAttack]

Look at his team. I cannot believe they even made it that far.

Yeah thats true, they sucked. The thing i never got was putting up huge numbers on crap teams usually is accompanied by an asterisk when comparing players, not for Wade though? I mean its still a godly season either way but i've been wondering..

Durant at 25years old is putting up similar numbers to absolute PEAK Wade, and Durants team is elite while Wades was far from it, you almost have to take Durant.

[moe94]

Yeah thats true, they sucked. The thing i never got was putting up huge numbers on crap teams usually is accompanied by an asterisk when comparing players, not for Wade though? I mean its still a godly season either way but i've been wondering..

Durant at 25years old is putting up similar numbers to absolute PEAK Wade, and Durants team is elite while Wades was far from it, you almost have to take Durant.

Are you suggesting Wade could not put up those numbers while being in a great team?

[Solefade]

Wade avged 10 free frows a game in his prime before Bosh/Bron came (05-10 with 2 10+FT seasons). In the playoff it was the same story
KD from 2010 is averaging 1 less FT a game but hes still making more since hes that much better as a shooter

it's because wade actually went to the basket, was a physical player offensively and not to mention has one of the GOAT pump fakes.

i don't know wtf KD does

[ssginc]

This is Durant. Durant's far superior as a scorer, which puts him over the top.


I'm a HUGE Durant fan, but how do you figure he's a far superior scorer than was prime Wade (who averaged 27-PPG on 49% circa 06-11)?

[Totspurs]

Peak Wade >= This KD >>> Prime Wade

[BigMacAttack]

Are you suggesting Wade could not put up those numbers while being in a great team?

Im suggesting on a similarly crap team to that 09 heat team Durants numbers would be better then what he is putting up now with this thunder squad, and quite possibly better then Wades best season.

Durant is 25, imagine his peak on a crap team, woooaa.

[plowking]

I'm probably the biggest Wade fan on here, but I'm not sure.

KD is honestly playing at a level that few have reached. This season is more than likely a top 20 season we've ever seen in the league. He's clearly a better offensive weapon, due to his shooting, length and mismatch abilities.
Wade is clearly a better defender, but saying that, the offensive side is what makes superstars, and is clearly more important.

To put it this way... Wade is better at more things, but the mismatch Durant creates is too much, and the few things he is better at put him over the top. This is coming from someone who absolutely loathes the way Durant plays, and hates the copious amount of BS calls he gets.

[SamuraiSWISH]

If KD wins MVP this season, plus a long playoff run then him.

[BigMacAttack]

I'm probably the biggest Wade fan on here, but I'm not sure.

KD is honestly playing at a level that few have reached. This season is more than likely a top 20 season we've ever seen in the league. He's clearly a better offensive weapon, due to his shooting, length and mismatch abilities.
Wade is clearly a better defender, but saying that, the offensive side is what makes superstars, and is clearly more important.

To put it this way... Wade is better at more things, but the mismatch Durant creates is too much, and the few things he is better at put him over the top. This is coming from someone who absolutely loathes the way Durant plays, and hates the copious amount of BS calls he gets.

Besides loathing KDs game you have summed it up very well for me, respect for removing the bias too.

[Im Still Ballin]

It's really close but give me Wades defense and 7.5 assists over Durants shooting prowess.

[Joyner82reload]

I'm a HUGE Durant fan, but how do you figure he's a far superior scorer than was prime Wade (who averaged 27-PPG on 49% circa 06-11)?

31 ppg 64 TS%>>>30 ppg 56 TS%

[moe94]

31 ppg 64 TS%>>>30 ppg 56 TS%

TS%?

Durant is a great freethrow shooter and Wade is a mediocre 3 point shooter. Congratulations, captain obvious.

:rolleyes:

[Joyner82reload]

TS%?

Durant is a great freethrow shooter and Wade is a mediocre 3 point shooter. Congratulations, captain obvious.

:rolleyes:

TS%=shooting efficiency aka the amount of points you score per shot. Durant averages 1.28 points per shot, Wade's at 1.12. That's a big gap.

[moe94]

TS%=shooting efficiency aka the amount of points you score per shot. Durant averages 1.28 points per shot, Wade's at 1.12. That's a big gap.

How is TS% calculated again? Explain it to me.

:sleeping

[Joyner82reload]

How is TS% calculated again? Explain it to me.

:sleeping

points*.5/[(FTA*.44)+FGA]

[knicksman]

durant and its not close. Durant is already better than lebron in 2010 much more for wade. All around stats only matters if theyre equal in the scoring dept. thats why lebron is a joke compared to kobe despite his all around stats. + 3.8 when paired with stars compared to +10 of kobe

[bizil]

Wade is one of the few perimeter players in NBA history that can claim he's an alpha dog and great all around player all in one. That's guys like MJ, Kobe, West, Magic, Big O, Bron, Drexler, T-Mac, Hondo, Bird, and Barry. When u throw in defense, the list shrinks to MJ, Kobe, Hondo, West, Wade, and Bron. So Wade is truly in world class epic company. I mean think about the history of the NBA. How many perimeter guys were legit great scorers, great passers, great rebounders, and great defenders all in one. Some guys were damn close, but Wade is one of the minute few who can make the claim.

But then u have dominant scorers like Durant who's also a very good all around player. These are guys like Baylor and Dr.J. Those are so dominant scoring and very solid across the board that u may take them over an alpha dog who's also a great all around player. I wouldn't take Durant over MJ, Kobe, or Bron for sure. But in the case of Wade, I might actually take Durant. Wade's scoring skillset isn't quite on par with Kobe or MJ. And Wade can't touch Bron's versatility. MJ, Kobe, and Bron could flat out play PG, SG, and SF. And in Bron's case he's one the few guys to come closest to being able to play all five positions. Durant can play SG, SF, and PF ala Larry Bird so that's very versatile as well.

I think the mismatches Durant can create and his improved all around play would give him the slight edge over Wade. But if I'm picking a player 6'4 and under EVER, Wade would be my first pick peak value wise. GOAT wise, u got Isiah, West and Wade as the top three in my book. But if this was two or three years ago, I would take Wade clearly. The evolution of Durant's all around game is the difference today.

[riseagainst]

Prime D-Wade was great that's why Lebron accepted the role on being his sidekick.

I will still pick Durant tho, D-Wade has already shown what his capable of and that's his limit. He won't be getting better anymore, while Durant is still rising and entering his prime. We still don't know what he's really capable of.

well said.

[Trollsmasher]

Wade. The offense of both is pretty close, but Wade was a better defender. He was also actually clutch, unlike Kid Choke.

[r0drig0lac]

Wades not a better defender.

KD is a tier above him. Far better scorer, shooter, better in halfcourt, better defender and rebounder. Wades the better ball handler and passer. 2012 KD VS prime Wade is more comparable.no

[alec613]

Wades not a better defender.

KD is a tier above him. Far better scorer, shooter, better in halfcourt, better defender and rebounder. Wades the better ball handler and passer. 2012 KD VS prime Wade is more comparable.


:roll: :roll:
Even a 30 year old Wade is better than Durant ever was when it comes to defense . Of course Durant is still improving on that end

[russwest0]

:roll: :roll:
Even a 30 year old Wade is better than Durant ever was when it comes to defense . Of course Durant is still improving on that end

How we know you've never watched Durant these past 2 years.

[gyu]

Anyone's opinion change after last night's performance?

[Andrei89]

Close call. I give edge to Wade because of the defense.Also, prime Wade was unstoppable going to the basket.