Rank these players: Peak Tmac, Peak Kobe, Peak Iverson, Peak Wade, Peak Jordan

[oarabbus]

We're talking about PEAK here, not prime. I'm talking about how good these guys were when they were playing their best bball, ever. Feel free to give a sense of how big you think the gaps are, too.

[riseagainst]

MJ
Wade/Kobe
TMAC
Iverson

[Orlando Magic]

peak? Jordan > McGrady > Bryant > Wade > Iverson
career? Jordan > Bryant > Wade > Iverson > McGrady

[HOoopCityJones]

MJ
Kobe
Wade
Iverson
TMac

[Genaro]

Jordan > Kobe > AI > Wade > Tmac

[Orlando Magic]

If the two posters above this post actually read the OP and still think McGrady is at the bottom of this list in terms of PEAK.... lol... wow.

[alec613]

Laker fan here

MJ
Wade/Tmac
Kobe
AI

[EnoughSaid]

If we're talking about peak play.

MJ
Wade
Kobe
TMac
Iverson

[Solefade]

Jordan > Wade > AI > Kobe > Tmac

[jzek]

Jordan
Kobe
Iverson
Wade
McGrady

[Cold soul]

MJ
Kobe
Wade
TMac
Iverson

[oarabbus]

If the two posters above this post actually read the OP and still think McGrady is at the bottom of this list in terms of PEAK.... lol... wow.


No love for Prime Tmac, I guess :confusedshrug: I'm surprised too.

[aj1987]

No love for Prime Tmac, I guess :confusedshrug: I'm surprised too.
MJ
Kobe/Wade
T-Mac




Big gap




AI

[BigMacAttack]

peak? Jordan > McGrady > Bryant > Wade > Iverson
career? Jordan > Bryant > Wade > Iverson > McGrady

This.

[kamil]

If the two posters above this post actually read the OP and still think McGrady is at the bottom of this list in terms of PEAK.... lol... wow.

I thought the same :/

[IncarceratedBob]

mj
kobe
mac
ai
wade

[T_L_P]

Jordan

McGrady
Wade
Kobe

AI

[Milbuck]

MJ
Kobe
Wade
TMac
AI

[Solefade]

Aside from Jordan, Wade clearly has had the best peak out of any of those other players. Don't think this is debatable if you were paying attention to him in 08-09.

His offense and especially defense >>>

[GOATbe]

Kobe








Tmac
Wade
Iverson
Jordan

[Angel Face]

MJ
Kobe
Wade
AI
T-Mac

[kurple]

MJ
Kobe/Wade
T-Mac




Big gap




AI
:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[Mr. Jabbar]

kobe

[houston]

Wade peak was higher than kobe

[HOoopCityJones]

Wade peak was higher than kobe

Wade's peak is close to Kobe's 81 game?


Screw that, the Mavs games?

[Smook A.]

Too hard
i'd go with
1. Jordan
2. Kobe
3. TMac
4. Wade
5. Iverson

EVERYONE IS GREAT THOUGH. Tmac had a great peak, Wade's peak was fantastic, Iverson's peak was also fantastice

[oarabbus]

^ Bernard King doe

[NumberSix]

We're talking about PEAK here, not prime. I'm talking about how good these guys were when they were playing their best bball, ever. Feel free to give a sense of how big you think the gaps are, too.
Jordan
Wade
Kobe
Iverson
T-Mac

[SamuraiSWISH]

The best PEAKS for perimeter players (combo guard, SG, SF only)

Top Three:

1) MJ
2) LeBron
3) Kobe

Wade
Drexler
Nique
T-Mac
Penny

Durant (in between tiers, so far)

Hill
Iverson
Pippen
Pierce
VC

[avonbarksdale]

mj
kobe

other 3 are interchangable imo

[oarabbus]

Is anyone brave enough to say and explain if any wing player had a higher peak than MJ? Any player?

[Dr Hawk]

Jordan

Wade/Kobe
TMac

AI

[SamuraiSWISH]

Is anyone brave enough to say and explain if any wing player had a higher peak than MJ? Any player?
No one has though. MJ from '90 - '96 is the greatest player of all-time. Not just greatest perimeter peak of all-time. No weakness in his game during that time span. So why would anyone try to waist their time arguing the inarguable?

[Lateralus]

peak? Jordan > McGrady > Bryant > Wade > Iverson
career? Jordan > Bryant > Wade > Iverson > McGrady


This 100%

[NumberSix]

Is anyone brave enough to say and explain if any wing player had a higher peak than MJ? Any player?
You could make an argument between Jordan's peak and LeBron's 2011-2012 season

[cos88]

jordan
wade
ai
kobe
tmac

[aj1987]

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:
What's so:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: ??

[JohnFreeman]

MJ
Wade
Kobe
TMac
Iverson

[dyna]

1. Jordan
2. Wade
3. Kobe/ T Mac/ Iverson

[Stringer Bell]

Jordan
Kobe
Wade
Mcgrady
Iverson

[Jacks3]

Jordan

Bryant
T-Mac
Wade

Iverson

[TheMarkMadsen]

MJ
Kobe
Wade/Iverson

T Mac

[oarabbus]

No one has though. MJ from '90 - '96 is the greatest player of all-time. Not just greatest perimeter peak of all-time. No weakness in his game during that time span. So why would anyone try to waist their time arguing the inarguable?


Not even KAJ? Russell? Wilt?

[Heavincent]

Jordan
Kobe
Wade
T-Mac/AI

[SamuraiSWISH]

Not even KAJ? Russell? Wilt?
No one watched Wilt or Russell in their prime here, I don't even think anyone saw KAJ in his prime here either. I don't comment on players I never saw. Consensus generally has MJ as GOAT. With good reason too.

[MadSolar]

peak? Jordan > McGrady > Bryant > Wade > Iverson
career? Jordan > Bryant > Wade > Iverson > McGrady

This. Tmac had the 2nd best peak.

[BIZARRO]

Peak:

Jordan
Kobe
T-Mac
Wade
Iverson

I think it's pretty evenly spread actually in the distance from peak player to peak player down the line IMO

[LilEddyCurry]

Young Wade was lethal and was a finals MVP.

[Audio One]

Jordan
Kobe
Iverson
Wade
McGrady

:applause:

Flash never had the impact Iverson had on the sport. Dwyane's the better player all-time, but in their primes Iverson was a taller figure in the league; much more exciting, captivating, and more influential

[moe94]

:applause:

Flash never had the impact Iverson had on the sport. Dwyane's the better player all-time, but in their primes Iverson was a taller figure in the league; much more exciting, captivating, and more influential

Your post could apply to everyone not named Jordan. If you're talking actual play on the court, Wade was a much better player than Iverson. :facepalm

[Audio One]

Your post could apply to everyone not named Jordan. If you're talking actual play on the court, Wade was a much better player than Iverson. :facepalm

Did he have Allen's balance and coordination? :confusedshrug:

Could he play off the ball like Iverson could? :confusedshrug:

Could he score from the midrange like Allen could? And pull up and shoot over defenders as consistenly? :confusedshrug:

Was his release as quick as Allen's? :confusedshrug:

Could he hit shots as defended as Iverson could? :confusedshrug:

Could he change direction as quick as Iverson could, and was his crossover as deadly? :confusedshrug:

Show me all the floaters, scoops, and double pumps in Flash's arsenal :confusedshrug:

He can't hit the triple, nowhere near as fast, not as deadly one-on-one, wasn't as quick in transition, nor had handles as tight as his, no questioning that

[G-Funk]

MJ
Kobe
Wade
T-Mac
Iverson

[moe94]

Did he have Allen's balance and coordination? :confusedshrug:

Could he play off the ball like Iverson could? :confusedshrug:

Could he score from the midrange like Allen could? And pull up and shoot over defenders as consistenly? :confusedshrug:

Was his release as quick as Allen's? :confusedshrug:

Could he hit shots as defended as Iverson could? :confusedshrug:

Could he change direction as quick as Iverson could, and was his crossover as deadly? :confusedshrug:

Show me all the floaters, scoops, and double pumps in Flash's arsenal :confusedshrug:

He can't hit the triple, nowhere near as fast, not as deadly one-on-one, wasn't as quick in transition, nor had handles as tight as his, no questioning that

Hell are you blabbering about? The eye test nonsense? A lot of that is silly and doesn't show who the better all around player is. Crossover? Are you asking if Wade's crossover was deadly? Should I list shit like "where are all the posters Iverson did?":oldlol:

Wade peaked 30/5/7 49% with great defense. That's better than version of Iverson and it's not really close.

[Audio One]

Hell are you blabbering about? The eye test nonsense? A lot of that is silly and doesn't show who the better all around player is. Crossover? Are you asking if Wade's crossover was deadly? Should I list shit like "where are all the posters Iverson did?":oldlol:

Wade peaked 30/5/7 49% with great defense. That's better than version of Iverson and it's not really close.


Those laxed handchecking rules and rules changes, I'm so impressed... :sleeping

And Ewing peaked with 29/11/2 with great defense, better than any version of Charles Barkley, right? :roll:

[moe94]

Those laxed handchecking rules and rules changes, I'm so impressed... :sleeping

And Ewing peaked with 29/11/2 with great defense, better than any version of Charles Barkley, right? :roll:

I forgot Barkley had terrible efficiency.

[SHAQisGOAT]

1. Jordan
2a. Kobe
2b. Wade
3. AI/T-Mac (I'd call it a tie or almost)

[Audio One]

In addition to the rule changes, Flash's also benefited from having shooters and floor spacing. In addition to handchecking, Allen never had any shooters to space the floor for him. Philly management has been atrocious dating back to the Harold Katz days. The one time Allen gets a shooter he's stupidly traded to Utah. And we already saw what he could do once he had an actual sidekick (Anthony, broken-down C-Webb).

A.I @ his peak took down two top 10 players, undefeated at their physical apexes, won an MVP over said players plus another top-15 player at his apex, and after Jordan was the most menacing and intimidating player. During the golden era of 2's, and in a league with more star parity, Ivers0n was always right at the top with the best of em. :cheers: Wade was never consistently on that level

I understand Flash's better all-around and is deservedly ranked higher. However he's not the pure scorer AI is, nor has his heart, ability to play through minor injuries, nowhere near his endurance, or tenacity. If the Sixers organization knew how to actually build around him, and if he wasn't blackballed from the league this would be a very different debate

[moe94]

Ivers0n was always right at the top with the best of em. :cheers: Wade was never consistently on that level


Same amount of ALL-NBA selections.

[Jasper]

peak :
Jordan
Wade
Kobe
Iverson
Tmac

Career :
Jordan
Kobe (non-team player)
Wade
Iverson
Tmac

* It would be interesting if you put Kareem , Akeem , Wilt , Bird and Majic in this :D

[SexSymbol]

Obviously Jordan is first, and Kobe is second.
The rest are actually an interesting topic. Iverson impacted the game the most, that's for sure, McGrady had nothing, besides that one season on a very very bad team. If that's his peak, that's a VERY weak peak.
DWade's peak is 06, unquoestionably, now for the sole reason of winning a championship, I'd probably put it ahead of Iverson, but the refereeing in those finals has it's own questions arising. I dunno, probably looks like this
1.Jordan
2.Kobe

3.Wade
4.Iverson



5.McGrady

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Peak Wade>>>
not even that debatable too:facepalm
dude was a mutant. sadly his peak only lasted about one year:lol :lol

[STATUTORY]

Peak Wade>>>
not even that debatable too:facepalm
dude was a mutant. sadly his peak only lasted about one year:lol :lol

:roll: :roll: didn't peak wade get busted up by josh smith in the playoffs two years running?

Peak wade was still a shitty streaky shooter

[SexSymbol]

Why is 09 wade considered as his peak year? He was on a shit team, obviously he will put up stats. Just like Kobe in 06, although that was a whole different level even for a shit team, T-mac in 03 (I heard him say that he was as good as Kobe that year because of his stats, that shit makes you cringe), Iverson in 06 I believe too.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Whether you feel Wade is above Kobe or vice versa, their peaks are VERY close. There is basically no gap there either way.

[Jlamb47]

Mj/kobe
Wade

Tmac/iverson

[HOoopCityJones]

Whether you feel Wade is above Kobe or vice versa, their peaks are VERY close. There is basically no gap there either way.

I give Kobe the edge because of skill alone.

Dwade is not a better bball player than Kobe Bryant.