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HOoopCityJones
01-21-2014, 09:53 PM
Forget rings, accolades , stats.

All prime

Two on Two


Who's winning?

fpliii
01-21-2014, 09:54 PM
It's tough, I think. Neither duo really peaked at the same time.

Kareem's prime ended in 80 or 81 depending on who you ask, while Magic's started a half-dozen years later; Kobe might've entered his during the threepeat as Shaq was on the way down, so they had 01 in common.

If it's both pairs at their bests, I think Kobe and Shaq win (since Magic would be more helpful in an open-court game than 2-on-2).

HOoopCityJones
01-21-2014, 09:56 PM
It's tough, I think. Neither duo really peaked at the same time.

Kareem's prime ended in 80 or 81 depending on who you ask, while Magic's started a half-dozen years later; Kobe might've entered his during the threepeat as Shaq was on the way down, so they had 01 in common.

If it's both pairs at their bests, I think Kobe and Shaq win (since Magic would be more helpful in an open-court game than 2-on-2).

Everyone is in their respective primes.

Black and White
01-21-2014, 09:56 PM
Shaq v Kareem matchup is a slight edge to Shaq, it's a tough one, but I will go with Shaq & Kobe

HOoopCityJones
01-21-2014, 09:57 PM
Magic can't stop Kobe, but prime Kobe would clamp down on Magic.

TheMarkMadsen
01-21-2014, 09:58 PM
that's tough, but i gotta go Kobe & Shaq

navy
01-21-2014, 10:06 PM
I would go with SHaq and Kobe. Only because of defense though.

navy
01-21-2014, 10:07 PM
Magic can't stop Kobe, but prime Kobe would clamp down on Magic.
Except no. Prime Magic would abuse Kobe like he abused Jordan.

Magic would get burned worse on defense though.

HOoopCityJones
01-21-2014, 10:10 PM
Except no. Prime Magic would abuse Kobe like he abused Jordan.

Magic would get burned worse on defense though.

Nope.

mr.big35
01-21-2014, 10:38 PM
shaq and kobe would have a big ego fight and they lose easy

Milbuck
01-21-2014, 10:44 PM
Peak Shaq and peak Kareem is a really tough decision, but I'd have to give Shaq the slight edge.

Kobe and Magic are both incredible offensively, but defensively Kobe blows Magic out of the water. At his best he was a legendary perimeter defender.

Prime Kobe and prime Shaq is just unfair.

LAZERUSS
01-21-2014, 10:44 PM
shaq and kobe would have a big ego fight and they lose easy

LOL!

I could see Kobe stealing the ball from Shaq, and Shaq blocking his shot.

houston
01-21-2014, 10:46 PM
Kobe Shaq of course

The Iron Fist
01-21-2014, 10:50 PM
Its sad to see how many people are admitting they never seen Kareem and Magic. Kobe is not locking down Magic in any way. Especially when Magic is at least a full three inches taller.

DMV2
01-21-2014, 10:55 PM
Its sad to see how many people are admitting they never seen Kareem and Magic.
One would have to be in their 40's if they've seen Magic and Kareem play live.

There's probably only a handful of ISH posters here who are 40+.

SpecialQue
01-21-2014, 10:59 PM
Kareem>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shaq
Magic>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe

In their primes? Get the fvck out of here. It's Kareem and Magic, NO contest.

HOoopCityJones
01-21-2014, 11:00 PM
Kareem>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shaq
Magic>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe

In their primes? Get the fvck out of here. It's Kareem and Magic, NO contest.

LOL sounds like an opinion based on pure emotion.

Kareem ain't stopping Shaq bro, get over it.

And I'm straight laughing at anyone who thinks Magic can take Kobe in his prime.

LAZERUSS
01-21-2014, 11:05 PM
LOL sounds like an opinion based on pure emotion.

Kareem ain't stopping Shaq bro, get over it.

And I'm straight laughing at anyone who thinks Magic can take Kobe in his prime.

Hmmm...a 38-39 year old KAJ, and way past his prime, averaged 33 ppg on .621 shooting over the course of ten straight games, against a young Hakeem, which included games of 40, 43, and 46 points...

and yet a prime Shaq's high against a fading Hakeem, was only 37 points.

Kind of makes you wonder what a KAJ, circa 70-72, would have leveled Hakeem with...as well as Shaq, don't you think?

VIntageNOvel
01-21-2014, 11:08 PM
Kareem would abuse shaq,
just a bad match up, and with his length he could annoy him

but magic not really a one on one player, he wouldnt be able to defend kobe,
and prime kobe is one hell of man defender

LAZERUSS
01-21-2014, 11:11 PM
Kareem would abuse shaq,
just a bad match up, and with his length he could annoy him

but magic not really a one on one player, he wouldnt be able to defend kobe,
and prime kobe is one hell of man defender

Of course, Kobe would only shoot 40%, and take the bulk of his team's shots, while KAJ would shoot 60%, and Magic would shoot 55%.

riseagainst
01-21-2014, 11:43 PM
Except no. Prime Magic would abuse Kobe like he abused Jordan.

Magic would get burned worse on defense though.

this.
Magic was abusing MJ in the post in the 91 finals. That's why Pippen had to switch on him.

I don't see Kobe stopping Magic either. But I really dont see Magic stopping Kobe.

HOoopCityJones
01-21-2014, 11:46 PM
Hmmm...a 38-39 year old KAJ, and way past his prime, averaged 33 ppg on .621 shooting over the course of ten straight games, against a young Hakeem, which included games of 40, 43, and 46 points...

and yet a prime Shaq's high against a fading Hakeem, was only 37 points.

Kind of makes you wonder what a KAJ, circa 70-72, would have leveled Hakeem with...as well as Shaq, don't you think?

Shaq > Hakeem

LOL@ Kareem abusing Shaq and ima huge Laker fan.

Kareem is getting stopped by an in prime Shaq man.

Xiao Yao You
01-21-2014, 11:53 PM
Magic/Kareem

LAZERUSS
01-21-2014, 11:56 PM
Shaq > Hakeem

LOL@ Kareem abusing Shaq and ima huge Laker fan.

Kareem is getting stopped by an in prime Shaq man.

And yet Shaq couldn't dominate the likes of Eddy Curry...

EllEffEll
01-22-2014, 12:10 AM
2v2, loser buys pizza and beer? I think Kobe and Shaq could give Magic and KAJ one hell of a game, good chance of beating them. Kobe is a better scorer than Magic, and Shaq could possibly score as easily on Kareem as Kareem could score on him.

That said, I would take Magic and Kareem to anchor a team over Kobe and Shaq. Magic needs people to pass the ball to, and is at his best with four teammates on the floor. Kareem is straight up money when the game is on the line. JMHO

Jacks3
01-22-2014, 12:14 AM
01 Shaq/Kobe shit on any version of Kareem/Magic.

The Iron Fist
01-22-2014, 01:13 AM
One would have to be in their 40's if they've seen Magic and Kareem play live.

There's probably only a handful of ISH posters here who are 40+.

Thats a wack excuse. There is plenty of footage of both guys. NBA TV plays classic games too.

The Iron Fist
01-22-2014, 01:14 AM
LOL sounds like an opinion based on pure emotion.

Kareem ain't stopping Shaq bro, get over it.

And I'm straight laughing at anyone who thinks Magic can take Kobe in his prime.
:roll:

Kareem could take Shaq out of the paint and drop skyhooks on him all day. If he missed, Magic being taller and bigger than Kobe, would get the rebound.

Cap and Magic would destroy any two man tandem in history.

HOoopCityJones
01-22-2014, 01:17 AM
:roll:

Kareem could take Shaq out of the paint and drop skyhooks on him all day. If he missed, Magic being taller and bigger than Kobe, would get the rebound.

Cap and Magic would destroy any two man tandem in history.

In regulation? Most likely.

In two on two? It's a wash.

Magic is most effective in Team ball.

The Iron Fist
01-23-2014, 12:48 AM
In regulation? Most likely.

In two on two? It's a wash.

Magic is most effective in Team ball.
:facepalm

TheMilkyBarKid
01-23-2014, 01:03 AM
this.
Magic was abusing MJ in the post in the 91 finals. That's why Pippen had to switch on him.

I don't see Kobe stopping Magic either. But I really dont see Magic stopping Kobe.
That is where magic's superior passing ability along with his willingness to pass could become the difference.

GoranDragon
01-23-2014, 01:14 AM
Lebron and Jordan would murk those teams.