Durant will retire as the second best perimeter scorer

[215Philly]

Ever :bowdown: MJ & Durant too good :bowdown:

[Jacks3]

more like the best.

[imnew09]

Kobe >

[juju151111]

Ever :bowdown: MJ & Durant too good :bowdown:
He on pace to pass Mj and LJ.

[SamuraiSWISH]

May retire as 2nd, but his game I don't think translates across eras as 2nd best.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Probably be
1. MJ
2. KD
3. Lebron

[215Philly]

He on pace to pass Mj and LJ.
**** it, GOAT scorer :rockon:

[TheReal Kendall]

May retire as 2nd, but his game I don't think translates across eras as 2nd best.

Why it doesn't? I get he's small and probably couldn't take those hits in the 90s but dude can shoot and create his own on par with MJ.

[215Philly]

Only thing I dislike is that stupid "ripthru" move. Everything else is :bowdown:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Why it doesn't? I get he's small and probably couldn't take those hits in the 90s but dude can shoot and create his own on par with MJ.
Nope. I've seen people body him in the playoffs, when they let things slide a little more (still not to the physicality of pre 2006) and he gets extremely flustered. His game drops off mightily. I get he's playing well, but I'm not that quick to sip the koolaid.

[Young X]

He's already one of the greatest scorers ever period. Name 10 better scorers than him.

[Cold soul]

I highly doubt Durant will retire as second best perimeter scorer ever, but I guess we shall see.

[Cold soul]

He's already one of the greatest scorers ever period. Name 10 better scorers than him.

Durant already in top 10 without a doubt. The dude is unreal.

[SamuraiSWISH]

He's already one of the greatest scorers ever period. Name 10 better scorers than him.
MJ
Wilt
J. West
Kobe
LeBron
Nique
Bird
Baylor
Iverson
T-Mac

Just to name ten if push came to shove is all I'm saying.

[riseagainst]

He on pace to pass Mj and LJ.

:roll: :roll:

[TheReal Kendall]

Nope. I've seen people body him in the playoffs, when they let things slide a little more (still not to the physicality of pre 2006) and he gets extremely flustered. His game drops off mightily. I get he's playing well, but I'm not that quick to sip the koolaid.

I've never seen him get flustered or pushed around except for when they played the Heat in the finals but other than that he can score with the best of them.

I still think he should bulk up a bit and no I'm not sipping the koolaid yet either.

[navy]

:roll: :roll:
That's actually how Lebron writes it. :no:

[juju151111]

Nope. I've seen people body him in the playoffs, when they let things slide a little more (still not to the physicality of pre 2006) and he gets extremely flustered. His game drops off mightily. I get he's playing well, but I'm not that quick to sip the koolaid.
KD has been beasting in the playoffs since like 2011. What the actual **** are you talking about?

[SamuraiSWISH]

I've never seen him get flustered or pushed around except for when they played the Heat in the finals but other than that he can score with the best of them.

I still think he should bulk up a bit and no I'm not sipping the koolaid yet either.
I don't think he isn't a great scorer, I don't think he's the 2nd best scorer I've ever seen ... let alone the 2nd greatest of all-time. His game, the ref boost, the current rules on the perimeter. It all really pads his numbers. I think in a more physical league his PPG would drop off near 4 ppg.

[juju151111]

I've never seen him get flustered or pushed around except for when they played the Heat in the finals but other than that he can score with the best of them.

I still think he should bulk up a bit and no I'm not sipping the koolaid yet either.
He never goy pushed against the Heat. He avged 30ppg on 55%. He got in Foul trouble in crucial part of the games. The Heat didn't stop him offensively.

[MJistheGOAT]

Stop the hype.

MJ >> KD ...

Put KD against physical Ds, double, triple team and less touch fouls ...

[SamuraiSWISH]

KD has been beasting in the playoffs since like 2011. What the actual **** are you talking about?
When he faces great defenders who are allowed to be physical with him IN the playoffs he's struggled, dip shit. Pay attention.

There is no holes in his offensive game in THIS league, but under a different rule set ... he's flawed.

Thus not on pace to surpass MJ, or LeBron as you so overzealously claimed. You've pre jizzed your pants off a few games. Calm down. This has happened MANY times before.

You sound like a super excited idiot who has clearly never seen this type of stretch before. I wasn't even this overzealous with Kobe's run in 2006, and 2007 to make claims like these. And his scoring was superior.

[JohnFreeman]

Wow those Regular season numbers :facepalm

[juju151111]

I don't think he isn't a great scorer, I don't think he's the 2nd best scorer I've ever seen ... let alone the 2nd greatest of all-time. His game, the ref boost, the current rules on the perimeter. It all really pads his numbers. I think in a more physical league his PPG would drop off near 4 ppg.
Doubt it the rules are different, but not so different. A great player will always be a great player in any era. This isn't 06 when the refs were going crazy. Fts and ppg for perimeter players has steadily decreased since 06.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

People are so short-sighted. He's having an amazing stretch but the season's not even over. He would need to do this consistently for multiple seasons to go down as the second best perimeter scorer.

[juju151111]

When he faces great defenders who are physical with him, dip shit. Pay attention. There is no holes in his offensive game in THIS league, but under a different rule set ... he's flawed. Thus not on pace to surpass MJ, or LeBron as you so overzealously claimed. You've pre jizzed your pants off a few games. Calm down. This has happened MANY times before. You sound like an idiot.
Hey dumbass who is this great defenders that get into him. Ron Artest has tried this and he lit him up. He lit Paul George up too. What playoffs series are you talking about dipshit.

[juju151111]

People are so short-sighted. He's having an amazing stretch but the season's not even over. He would need to do this consistently for multiple seasons to go down as the second best perimeter scorer.
He has been doing it for years.:facepalm

[riseagainst]

Definitely a lock for 2nd. He has a huge chance to take 1st.

[SamuraiSWISH]

People are so short-sighted. He's having an amazing stretch but the season's not even over. He would need to do this consistently for multiple seasons to go down as the second best perimeter scorer.
Exactly. He's averaging the most PPG he ever has. He's averaging what past his prime Jordan was putting up in '96 in a more physically defended league.

juju151111 has been exposed as a child who just recently started watching basketball. Nothing Durant has done has been THAT exciting if you've even been watching the NBA for the last 7 years. It's not superior than Kobe's 2x year stretch.

Kid claimed to act like a Jordan fan, and after like a few game stretch declared Durant will be a superior scorer to Jordan. How ridiculous is that?

Hell, LeBron has 3 more 50 point games since 2008 compared to Durant, and he isn't even a one dimensional high volume scorer like Durant.

:oldlol:

[buddha]

I remember when the Heat played the Thunder in finals I said to really take this in as this will be remembered in history as the championship between the two greatest SF's of all time. I just hope we get to see a couple more rematches and it turns into one of the all-time great rivalries.

[juju151111]

When he faces great defenders who are allowed to be physical with him IN the playoffs he's struggled, dip shit. Pay attention.

There is no holes in his offensive game in THIS league, but under a different rule set ... he's flawed.

Thus not on pace to surpass MJ, or LeBron as you so overzealously claimed. You've pre jizzed your pants off a few games. Calm down. This has happened MANY times before.

You sound like a super excited idiot who has clearly never seen this type of stretch before. I wasn't even this overzealous with Kobe's run in 2006, and 2007 to make claims like these. And his scoring was superior.
Why would I be overzealous with Kobe in 06. 06 seen the spike in several players and refs were still adjusting. Clearly not how it was in 06 that it is today. Kobe scoring wasn't superior.

[TMT]

Why do people act like Lebron is a better scorer than KD?

[KD35willbeGOAT]

MJ
Wilt
J. West
Kobe
LeBron
Nique
Bird
Baylor
Iverson
T-Mac

Just to name ten if push came to shove is all I'm saying.

Bran? I mean, he's a better player but better scorer? Hmmm...

[TheReal Kendall]

He never goy pushed against the Heat. He avged 30ppg on 55%. He got in Foul trouble in crucial part of the games. The Heat didn't stop him offensively.

Lebron was pushing and fouling him that series. Refs didn't call much for him and he couldn't finish after contact.

They obviously did something cause they came away with the ship.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Hey dumbass who is this great defenders that get into him. Ron Artest has tried this and he lit him up. He lit Paul George up too. What playoffs series are you talking about dipshit.
When did KD face Paul George in the playoffs? Tony Allen, and Ron Artest circa 2010 when he was more physically capable have both given KD all kinds of problems. Tony Allen is 6'4, got physical with him and gave him issues.

[riseagainst]

Why do people act like Lebron is a better scorer than KD?

dat FG%.

:oldlol:

[215Philly]

People are so short-sighted. He's having an amazing stretch but the season's not even over. He would need to do this consistently for multiple seasons to go down as the second best perimeter scorer.
He's not jeremy lin. He has 4 scoring titles at 25, let that sink in :applause:

[TheReal Kendall]

People are so short-sighted. He's having an amazing stretch but the season's not even over. He would need to do this consistently for multiple seasons to go down as the second best perimeter scorer.

This true. People are just overreacted as usual

[SamuraiSWISH]

Bran? I mean, he's a better player but better scorer? Hmmm...
Why not? Career 28 ppg scorer. He's had seasons of 31 and 30 ppg. More than the most Durant has ever put up. This season he's putting up 26 ppg, and isn't even trying to volume score. He's had like six 50+ point games. Durant has had three in 7 seasons? Yet Durant is supposed to be this leaps and bounds better scorer? Here comes the Jan 2014 with KD is GOAT usernames.

:facepalm

[juju151111]

Exactly. He's averaging the most PPG he ever has. He's averaging what past his prime Jordan was putting up in '96 in a more physically defended league.

juju151111 has been exposed as a child who just recently started watching basketball. Nothing Durant has done has been THAT exciting if you've even been watching the NBA for the last 7 years. It's not superior than Kobe's 2x year stretch.

Kid claimed to act like a Jordan fan, and after like a few game stretch declared Durant will be a superior scorer to Jordan. How ridiculous is that?

Hell, LeBron has 3 more 50 point games since 2008 compared to Durant, and he isn't even a one dimensional high volume scorer like Durant.

:oldlol:
Lol I never declared him a Betterr scorer then Mj. I said he on pace to pass him all time and your hilarious dumbass. You make us Mj fans look crazy. Kobe is also going to pass Mj most likely and look what I told Kobe fans. He still not a better scorer dumbass. Stat in ur lane

[MJistheGOAT]

Cmon people as a scorer KD >>> LBJ ... Let him out of the thread.

[juju151111]

Lebron was pushing and fouling him that series. Refs didn't call much for him and he couldn't finish after contact.

They obviously did something cause they came away with the ship.
They won, but it was more to do with KD being in foul trouble in crucial part of the games. That's a myth just like the myth of Pippen guarded Magic after game 2.

[TMT]

dat FG%.

:oldlol:

Gunning it down the floor after a teammate's steal to get a last second dish... Super impressive Bron... :lol

[SamuraiSWISH]

Lol I never declared him a Betterr scorer then Mj. I said he on pace to pass him all time and your hilarious dumbass. You make us Mj fans look crazy. Kobe is also going to pass Mj most likely and look what I told Kobe fans. He still not a better scorer dumbass. Stat in ur lane
Passing someone in meaningless all-time points doesn't make them a superior scorer. We all know MJ was retired for basically 2x full seasons of his prime.

The point of the thread was asking who will be the 2nd best perimeter scorer all-time. Learn to read dumb ass. That's why your KD is going to pass MJ, LeBron comment was weird. You're really over excited about all this Durant stuff.

Wipe that KD nut off your chin. Let him go bonkers for an entire season. I don't make you look crazy, YOU ARE crazy. I'm being sober about this whole thing. You're gay ass is punch drunk in love with KD right now.

I've seen his feminine frame get bodied in the post season, totally thrown off his game. That's why I said he doesn't translate as the 2nd greatest scorer of all-time across eras. Backing my statement up with solid basketball reasoning.

You? You're just creating KDisGOAT screen names because you're such a fan girl.

:oldlol:

[juju151111]

When did KD face Paul George in the playoffs? Tony Allen, and Ron Artest circa 2010 when he was more physically capable have both given KD all kinds of problems. Tony Allen is 6'4, got physical with him and gave him issues.
2010 that was 4 years ago. Lmao your grasping for straws. KD is noticeably bigger bow and wayyyyyy better. He destroys Paul George in the regular season. Give me something recent on when KD has entered his prime. The pass 3 years after that Tony Allen has done nothing, but praise Durant because he can't guard him anymore. So give me something recent.

[SamuraiSWISH]

2010 that was 4 years ago. Lmao your grasping for straws. KD is noticeably bigger bow and wayyyyyy better. He destroys Paul George in the regular season. Give me something recent on when KD has entered his prime. The pass 3 years after that Tony Allen has done nothing, but praise Durant because he can't guard him anymore. So give me something recent.
They don't let people play defense in the regular season. Touch fouls galore. All Durant's numbers are padded by insane amounts of free throws. We've all known this for awhile. A few 40+ point games doesn't make him the 2nd greatest scorer ever.

[9512]

And to think Kevin Durant could've done all of this in a Seattle uniform annoys me me to no end...

[HoopsFanNumero1]

He's not jeremy lin. He has 4 scoring titles at 25, let that sink in :applause:

okay...

The standards are very high for being the second best perimeter scorers. Lebron's done that consistently for like a decade. Kobe's done it, for what, like 14, 15 years? This is the first season where Durant's finally having high scoring outbursts and people like you are already putting him at the top.

[SamuraiSWISH]

okay...

The standards are very high for being the second best perimeter scorers. Lebron's done that consistently for like a decade. Kobe's done it, for what, like 14, 15 years? This is the first season where Durant's finally having high scoring outbursts and people like you are already putting him at the top.
Young fan BOYS who literally started watching ball around 2008. That's only 6 years. I wouldn't be surprised if they were only 12 years old at the current time. No one with a recollection of the history of the game would be so overzealous after a small stretch of regular season games.

[juju151111]

Passing someone in meaningless all-time points doesn't make them a superior scorer. We all know MJ was retired for basically 2x full seasons of his prime.

The point of the thread was asking who will be the 2nd best perimeter scorer all-time. Learn to read dumb ass. That's why your KD is going to pass MJ, LeBron comment was weird. You're really over excited about all this Durant stuff.

Wipe that KD nut off your chin. Let him go bonkers for an entire season. I don't make you look crazy, YOU ARE crazy. I'm being sober about this whole thing. You're gay ass is punch drunk in love with KD right now.

I've seen his feminine frame get bodied in the post season, totally thrown off his game. That's why I said he doesn't translate as the 2nd greatest scorer of all-time across eras. Backing my statement up with solid basketball reasoning.

You? You're just creating KDisGOAT screen names because you're such a fan girl.

:oldlol:
I only think it's impressive if he does it more efficiently and faster. It took Kobe way longer that's why I told Kobe fans that it's irrelevant because it took longer,more games,not has efficient etc.... Not to mention Mj missed 3 seasons where he could of put up crazy numbers 86,94,95 etc.... Mj most likely would of been the all-time leader if he never retired until 40. I said KD was going to pass Mj and LJ all-time because I think he will be the 2nd all time best scorer. Wipe the Mj nut off yours dumbass.

[juju151111]

They don't let people play defense in the regular season. Touch fouls galore. All Durant's numbers are padded by insane amounts of free throws. We've all known this for awhile. A few 40+ point games doesn't make him the 2nd greatest scorer ever.
I never said it had to be in the regular season dumbass. It could be in the in the playoffs but more recent since KD has been on a tear.

[TMT]

okay...

The standards are very high for being the second best perimeter scorers. Lebron's done that consistently for like a decade. Kobe's done it, for what, like 14, 15 years? This is the first season where Durant's finally having high scoring outbursts and people like you are already putting him at the top.

:wtf: The kid has 4 scoring titles at 25 years old. This isn't exactly the first year he's been putting up big numbers...

[juju151111]

okay...

The standards are very high for being the second best perimeter scorers. Lebron's done that consistently for like a decade. Kobe's done it, for what, like 14, 15 years? This is the first season where Durant's finally having high scoring outbursts and people like you are already putting him at the top.
No, KD has like 3 scoring title. Tgis isn't the first time anything.

[215Philly]

okay...

The standards are very high for being the second best perimeter scorers. Lebron's done that consistently for like a decade. Kobe's done it, for what, like 14, 15 years? This is the first season where Durant's finally having high scoring outbursts and people like you are already putting him at the top.
:biggums: okay? Not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4.... 4 at 25. You can't say simply "okay" to that. Oh and btw I didn't put him at the top yet, I said by the time he retires.

[ArbitraryWater]

Why not? Career 28 ppg scorer. He's had seasons of 31 and 30 ppg. More than the most Durant has ever put up. This season he's putting up 26 ppg, and isn't even trying to volume score. He's had like six 50+ point games. Durant has had three in 7 seasons? Yet Durant is supposed to be this leaps and bounds better scorer? Here comes the Jan 2014 with KD is GOAT usernames.

:facepalm

pretty much. people act like bron a scrub when it comes to scoring.

[215Philly]

:wtf: The kid has 4 scoring titles at 25 years old. This isn't exactly the first year he's been putting up big numbers...
He's gonna finish with atleast 8 tbh

[stephanieg]

Durant is the GOAT flailer. Billups, Pierce, Duncan, Wade, Kobe, Reggie ain't got nothing on this guy.

[KG215]

Nope. I've seen people body him in the playoffs, when they let things slide a little more (still not to the physicality of pre 2006) and he gets extremely flustered. His game drops off mightily. I get he's playing well, but I'm not that quick to sip the koolaid.
Durant is actually a player who normally elevates his play in the playoffs.

[KG215]

:wtf: The kid has 4 scoring titles at 25 years old. This isn't exactly the first year he's been putting up big numbers...
Eh...Durant has never been one to have absurd scoring outbursts over a 2-4 week stretch. Somewhat because he's played most of his career with a 20+ PPG, high volume teammate, and somewhat because he isn't the type who's going to go out and consistently take 30+ shots per game.

What he is, though, is an extremely consistent player who rarely deviates from around 25 points every single night. Meaning he gets his 28-30 PPG average where his "off" games still result in him still scoring 20-25 points and he balances those out with a lot of 30-35 point games. He very rarely scores 15 or fewer points, even on an off night.

[GOATbe]

:sleeping
5>0

[red1]

:sleeping
5>0
the insecurity of kobe stans on display again :lol

[Boarder Patrol]

Durant could sweep the scoring title for at least 5 more years after this one...who's gonna come close? Melo's the only one who I could see and he's usually around 26 anyways.

[215Philly]

:sleeping
5>0
4>2 :sleeping :sleeping

[GOATbe]

4>2 :sleeping :sleeping
rings>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>scoring titles :sleeping:sleeping :sleeping

[moe94]

rings>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>scoring titles :sleeping:sleeping :sleeping
Not in a thread about scoring prowess, insecure little stan.

[cos88]

OP will retire as the second best phagot on this forum after russwest0

[215Philly]

Not in a thread about scoring prowess, insecure little stan.
They don't get it :facepalm

[GOATbe]

Not in a thread about scoring prowess, insecure little stan.

Scoring 81 points or outscoring an entire team through 3 quarters seems like enough to be considered better than a guy who's done a few 40 point games on 15 fta per game. Wouldn't you agree?:confusedshrug:

[215Philly]

OP will retire as the second best phagot on this forum after russwest0
We both a close tie for 2nd :applause: You more dominant :bowdown:

[moe94]

Scoring 81 points or outscoring an entire team through 3 quarters seems like enough to be considered better than a guy who's done a few 40 point games on 15 fta per game. Wouldn't you agree?:confusedshrug:
Now you're saying something smart.

[Solefade]

People are so short-sighted. He's having an amazing stretch but the season's not even over. He would need to do this consistently for multiple seasons to go down as the second best perimeter scorer.

came in to say this lol

[Solefade]

Durant is actually a player who normally elevates his play in the playoffs.

his PPG goes up but efficiency takes a huge nose dive though



durants having an amazing stretch right now but everyone is such a prisoner of the moment.

[juju151111]

his PPG goes up but efficiency takes a huge nose dive though



durants having an amazing stretch right now but everyone is such a prisoner of the moment.
Durant has 4 scoring titles. It not a moment thing.:facepalm

[Flash31]

Doubt it the rules are different, but not so different. A great player will always be a great player in any era. This isn't 06 when the refs were going crazy. Fts and ppg for perimeter players has steadily decreased since 06.


um 2011 playoffs

KD avg 20 fta in Dal series

And going down no no no

Harden,Durant,Martin,Curry,CP3,

KD and JH avg about 10+ fta

The only reason its going down wholly is bc
less stars,more team play and two of the best perimeter players are on same team and rarely get calls(DW and LJ)


But no,KD is NBAs golden boy
2011 showed it with the nBa pushing Dal-Mia 5 yr rematch and story
but at same time protecting and boosting its num 1 star



If you look at 06 all the perimeter players were getting huge calls
and in playoffs
Wade with his game and rules became unstoppable

Dallas had no answer,
He had one of best mid range games and was one of best finishers
and was constantly driving to rim


KD doesnt get unstoppabble Shaq,Wade,Wilt,LJ calls
where its either their driving to rim,post play or o is unstoppable

KD gets his like George Gervin,Kevin Martin,R Miller,
And being NBAS num 1 MR UNtouchable


teams cant Touch much less even breath near KD without getting called for a foul
and weve seen what happens when he doesnt get preferential treatment when he gets the Shaq,Wade,LeBron treatment

he gets abused and cant handle it
The Grizz series was proof
all this goat shooter talk and in almost every single 4th he shot like Rudy Gay

[Flash31]

came in to say this lol


agree as well

hell Carmelo Anthony last year had a great stretch of 2 months

Amare Before Melo came had 10 straight games of 30,10
was getting MVP talks

B Jennings dropped 55 pts in a game rookie season

This year alone,MCW was playing like a star,
Stars and Players were avg huge numbers


One stretch come on,
Let it go at least two months before calling anything

For all thats known KD
could avg 30 on 50% throughout or take a nosedive and avg 30 on 44%
He coild tire out,he could wear himself out and kill OKCs chances in playoffs


WB will be back before playoffs


DW last year during 27 game streak avg
26,6,5 on 54%


You cant base an mvp on not even quarter of great season play
and only doing it for half a season is still
not great

[Illuminati]

:sleeping
5>0
:oldlol:

This is pretty much a lose lose situation for most Kobe stans. They're stanning Durant so he can finally dethrone LeBron, while this is happening, Durant is being called a better scorer than Kobe.:oldlol:

[215Philly]

:oldlol:

This is pretty much a lose lose situation for most Kobe stans. They're stanning Durant so he can finally dethrone LeBron, while this is happening, Durant is being called a better scorer than Kobe.:oldlol:
They better run to PG :roll:

[Flash31]

oh and 2nd best perimeter scorer

Hes not even halfway there yet

Dam give it time before yall spouting off goat this and thawhen careers arent even halfway over yet


I mean

Kobe,Jordan,West,Wade,Gervin,Allen,Miller,Goodrich ,
AI,LJ,Bird,Earl Monroe,Oscar


Some of these stars are in the 25,000+ club
others 30,000
regardless thats still at least 5 more years to even cone close
to some of them


Ease up with those talks

Hes not even the Best perimeter Scorer Today
LJ is ahead,Kobes still going

R Allen is continuing his totals as well as Pierce

Stephen Curry is on pace for another 200 3ptrs made
Lilliard is becoming a bigger scorer


He has at least 5 more yrs to go to even be in discussion

chill

Nobody knows yet,he could continue like
Gervin,Reggie,Allen till late 30s,40s or he could drop
like a Rashard,TMac,VC,AI,Peja

ease up on those talks

[Totspurs]

"he could take a nosedive and average 30 on 44%"

Doesn't Kobe average 25 on 45%?

[Flash31]

"he could take a nosedive and average 30 on 44%"

Doesn't Kobe average 25 on 45%?


yes and Kobe does(did)
through 17 Seasons

Dutants not even Halfway there

and well Kobes not First either and will still add to totals
as well as LJ being way ahead of him so


yeah


Kd 8 seasons

In order to be something as like GOAT scorer
or close like 2nd you need two things

Longevity and Big scoring over prolonged periods of time
KDs not putting up Wilt,Oscar,Shaq,Jordan,LJ,West

8 seasons in type stats that they did


Not even halfway there yet,so ease up on talks

itll be like saying SC will be goat 3 pt shooter
When compared to Goat at them hes not even halfway there

[knicksman]

if theirs one player that could beat jordan. its durant

[r0drig0lac]

I would like to have seen him play in the era of hand checking rules, he certainly would have more difficulties, but still think he can become the second biggest offensive force perimeter ever

[Joyner82reload]

I would like to have seen him play in the era of hand checking rules, he certainly would have more difficulties, but still think he can become the second biggest offensive force perimeter ever

What the hell is handchecking going to do against Durant? Handchecking prohibits people from bull/speedrushing their way past a defender, Durant slashes through defenses when he drives, and mainly operates from the perimeter. How is handchecking going to prevent him from knocking down 16-25 foot jumpers?

[SHAQisGOAT]

What the hell is handchecking going to do against Durant? Handchecking prohibits people from bull/speedrushing their way past a defender, Durant slashes through defenses when he drives, and mainly operates from the perimeter. How is handchecking going to prevent him from knocking down 16-25 foot jumpers?

He would've been an amazing scorer in any decade but let's just say that it would've been considerably more difficult for him to score with guys holding on to him or hand-checking his elbows when he goes for jump-shots, and hand-checking would make it harder for him on drives.. the "rip-through move"? He wouldn't get away with as many fouls, not close.

[Frozen1]

Kobe in three quarters scored more than durant

[GOATbe]

[QUOTE=Frozen1]Kobe in three quarters scored more than durant

[Joyner82reload]

[QUOTE=Frozen1]Kobe in three quarters scored more than durant

[Frozen1]

And Durant was more efficient as a 20 year old kid than prime Kobe ever was. Who gives a fvck about a career high? In that case, David Thompson>Jordan.

Ya I'm sure Durant, who is literally open on every possession, couldn't crack 70 or 80 if he was jacking up 50 shots in a game

LOL @ these Kobe fans thinking it's better to have 2 25 point 25 FGA nights followed up by a 60 point 35 FGA night, rather than 3 straight 35 point 20 FGA nights

LOL Kobe scored 62 points on 33 MINUTES on 58% from the field.

Kobe score 81 on 61% from the field.

Tell me that

[Joyner82reload]

[QUOTE=Frozen1]LOL Kobe scored 62 points on 33 MINUTES on 58% from the field.

Kobe score 81 on 61% from the field.

Tell me that

[r0drig0lac]

He would've been an amazing scorer in any decade but let's just say that it would've been considerably more difficult for him to score with guys holding on to him or hand-checking his elbows when he goes for jump-shots, and hand-checking would make it harder for him on drives.. the "rip-through move"? He wouldn't get away with as many fouls, not close.
exactly, I do not understand why they challenged what I said ... I think it would be lovely to see durant trying to break these hard defenses

[tpols]

What the hell is handchecking going to do against Durant? Handchecking prohibits people from bull/speedrushing their way past a defender, Durant slashes through defenses when he drives, and mainly operates from the perimeter. How is handchecking going to prevent him from knocking down 16-25 foot jumpers?
What? you know how easy it would be to hold that dudes hip and slow his progress to the rim? His hips are at some players shoulders when in defensive stance.:oldlol:

Not to mention the fact that anytime he is touched while dribbling, he flails and throws something up to get to the line.. really wish touch fouls and ref baiting were abolished smh

[Trollsmasher]

Give Durant LeBron/Melo officiating and we won't be having this discussion.

Literally the only athlete ever to profit from being weak as twig:lol

Durant is the only player to ever score 30 ppg on a season without making 10 FGs per game. And he is on pace to do it again.

GOAT free throw shooter (and flopper)? For sure.

[STATUTORY]

Lebron shouldn't be anywhere near this discussion

he's not a talented scorer period. worst iso game of any superstar ever in the league. without his propensity for driving and dishing, he's a black luke walton

[Joyner82reload]

Give Durant LeBron/Melo officiating and we won't be having this discussion.

Literally the only athlete ever to profit from being weak as twig:lol

Durant is the only player to ever score 30 ppg on a season without making 10 FGs per game. And he is on pace to do it again.

GOAT free throw shooter (and flopper)? For sure.

Durant 7th season-league average DRTG 105.6
30.9 ppg 19.7 FGA 10.2 FTA

LeBron 7th season-league average DRTG 107.6
29.7 ppg 20.1 FGA 10.2 FTA

:durantunimpressed:

[GoranDragon]

Better than Kobe yes.

[Rose'sACL]

Durant 7th season-league average DRTG 105.6
30.9 ppg 19.7 FGA 10.2 FTA

LeBron 7th season-league average DRTG 107.6
29.7 ppg 20.1 FGA 10.2 FTA

:durantunimpressed:
i have never seen anyone intelligent use drtg in any good basketball related argument. defensive advanced stats are even worse than offensive advanced stats.
you have used DRTG, WS48 and PER in one day to say that durant is better than lebron and a lot of others when it comes to single season records. i don't even hate PER much and lebron has had some of the best of all time PER stats for most of his career and i never used it because i didn't want to get laughed at by actual knowledgeable posters here.
PER, WS(lol@wS48) and DRTG are never used in any good basketball talk show for a reason.
TS% is the only real advanced stat that most players nad x-players are recognizing as something good. Even that has to be seen along with how many points a players scores.

[INDI]

I am a kobe fan but have become more of a realist. Kobe is great and did his thing but I agree with Op

Mj
Durant
Kobe

as far as perimeter scoring. TBH Durant may be even a better perimeter scorer than Jordan. Its like hes finally realizing that he can do anything he wants on the court and its scary. One thing he does better than mj/kobe/lebron combined is he can score without having the ball in his hand for long periods of time.

When he dropoed 54 he had the ball in his hand for a combined total of 3:17 seconds which is insane!!!

[Joyner82reload]

i have never seen anyone intelligent use drtg in any good basketball related argument. defensive advanced stats are even worse than offensive advanced stats.
you have used DRTG, WS48 and PER in one day to say that durant is better than lebron and a lot of others when it comes to single season records. i don't even hate PER much and lebron has had some of the best of all time PER stats for most of his career and i never used it because i didn't want to get laughed at by actual knowledgeable posters here.
PER, WS(lol@wS48) and DRTG are never used in any good basketball talk show for a reason.
TS% is the only real advanced stat that most players nad x-players are recognizing as something good. Even that has to be seen along with how many points a players scores.

Do you even know how team defensive rating is calculated? Jesus christ man, you're clueless.

Here, let me help you out.

2010 NBA averages: 46.1 FG% 50.1 eFG% 100.6 ppg FTR .300 TOVR 13.3
2014 NBA averages: 45.1 FG% 49.6 eFG% 100.2 ppg FTR .281 TOVR 13.7