LeBron and KD head to head

[Le Shaqtus]

KD has been playing out of his mind for a while, carrying the Westbrook-less Thunder to big wins over GSW and Portland. But LeBron is obviously coming off a championship season and is having a good season of his own.

So when they go head to head, if Durant loses to LeBron multiple times how much will it affect his case for MVP? On the other hand if Durant beats him he's a shoe in to win it this year.

[Joyner82reload]

If he loses the 1st game, it doesn't effect him whatsoever. No Westbrook, in Miami. It's all about his numbers.

But good god, with the way he is playing he might drop 50 on LeBron

[KyleKong]

LeBron sweeping the series against Durant wouldn't change Durant's MVP case at all.

Durant is just having the better overall season and so is his team.

But let's not forget LeBron is having another dominant year as well.

[TylerOO]

But good god, with the way he is playing he might drop 50 on LeBron

That would never happen :oldlol:

LeBron is worried about a different MVP

[Le Shaqtus]

LeBron sweeping the series against Durant wouldn't change Durant's MVP case at all.

Durant is just having the better overall season and so is his team.

But let's not forget LeBron is having another dominant year as well.

He needs to win at least one of them, although LeBrons team>Durant's team. So it's a pretty big mountain to overcome, KD has to go off every time they meet.

[buddha]

LeBron is easily having his worst season in the NBA (excluding his rookie year) while KD is having his best. No chance LeBron wins MVP.

[JebronLames]

Lebron can only win if KD gets hurt. :(

[KyleKong]

LeBron is easily having his worst season in the NBA (excluding his rookie year) while KD is having his best. No chance LeBron wins MVP.

You're acting like LeBron's "worst" season is anything short of amazing though.

[red1]

its not even a debate this year. if the rest of the season plays out the same way then voting this year should be near-unanimous

[Kingwillball]

KD has been playing out of his mind for a while, carrying the Westbrook-less Thunder to big wins over GSW and Portland. But LeBron is obviously coming off a championship season and is having a good season of his own.

So when they go head to head, if Durant loses to LeBron multiple times how much will it affect his case for MVP? On the other hand if Durant beats him he's a shoe in to win it this year.


Lebrons ONLY chance to win it this year is if he OUTPLAYS Durant the 2 match ups and Heat go 2-0 plus Miami goes on a tear like 27 outa 30 2nd half of season and Lebron improves his overall Numbers even more.

[Mr. Jabbar]

durant on another level, give that man the mvp alrdy

lebrons season is cute tho

[Kingwillball]

LeBron is easily having his worst season in the NBA (excluding his rookie year) while KD is having his best. No chance LeBron wins MVP.


He is not playing Bad just not going all out I think Lebron is at the point he rather "conserve" some energy for Playoffs as he Knows the rings are more important that trying to outgun a Younger fresher legged KD.

Come playoff time Expect Lebrons Rebounds to Jump to double digits and his assists to climb a bit as he will have the ball in his hands more and obviously play more minutes.

[zoom17]

Head to Head wont matter because Durant has had the better Year.

[Le Shaqtus]

Lebrons ONLY chance to win it this year is if he OUTPLAYS Durant the 2 match ups and Heat go 2-0 plus Miami goes on a tear like 27 outa 30 2nd half of season and Lebron improves his overall Numbers even more.

I feel like the Heat are just playing to get into the playoffs and not going for any records. Wade is resting a bunch and LeBron is putting great numbers but isn't as dominant as he was last season. I don't feel like they're gonna go on a huge run unless they get a weak schedule coming up (But Miami does play down to bad teams)

Durant is having an awesome season and is doing more with less, tonight no one scored more than 16 points on his team besides him who went for 46 against a very good Portland team. LeBron's team is good enough that he doesn't have to go for 30+ to win every night even when Wade isn't playing.

If Durant loses to LeBron twice but LeBron maintains his current play, I see Durant winning MVP. if LeBron's ups his play... Say after the All Star Break and beats Durant 2-1, Is see him edging Durant. But right now it's Durant's MVP.

[Magic 32]

He is not playing Bad just not going all out I think Lebron is at the point he rather "conserve" some energy for Playoffs as he Knows the rings are more important that trying to outgun a Younger fresher legged KD.


Sounds like the KB/LJ dynamic in 09 and 10.

[buddha]

You're acting like LeBron's "worst" season is anything short of amazing though.

LeBrons not playing on the same level we are accustomed to seeing, some say it's because of coasting and I tend to agree. He plays with no energy on defense or the boards. I can't say someone is having an amazing season when he isn't playing up to his potential.. Not when someone like KD plays with tenacity on defense every single night and continues to drop 30+ on offense.

[All Net]

KD has been playing out of his mind for a while, carrying the Westbrook-less Thunder to big wins over GSW and Portland. But LeBron is obviously coming off a championship season and is having a good season of his own.

So when they go head to head, if Durant loses to LeBron multiple times how much will it affect his case for MVP? On the other hand if Durant beats him he's a shoe in to win it this year.

none

with Westbrook out, Miami Should beat them. Would be less impressive on Lebron

[Flash31]

If he loses the 1st game, it doesn't effect him whatsoever. No Westbrook, in Miami. It's all about his numbers.

But good god, with the way he is playing he might drop 50 on LeBron

KD better hope Mario 25 pts and Norris Lock down Cole aren't playing


KD might get his numbers but they won't be good percentages for sure

NO WB,MIA can focus all their attention on KD
and well KP and Serge won't have an easy time with Bosh,Birdman,Battier,Oden,Beasley

No wb means Wade can conserve his energy

With WB gone,Lamb and Reggie are either going to expect to create for team and KD or will get overwhelmed


With the addition of Beasley and Oden,and no WB OKC is a one man show
and theyre up against a team who specializes in shutting down one man teams especially with no inside presence and no big men threats

[Illuminati]

If LeBron beats KD in both games while putting up better stats. The MVP race gon' be good.

[Flash31]

[QUOTE=All Net]none

with Westbrook out, Miami Should beat them. Would be less impressive on Lebron

[All Net]

Though it really depends on Miami's mindset
Competitive game,statement game or Not showing all your cards,resting players


Played Por with no LeBron,Bosh played games by himself,
Wade sat out as well as LeBron several high profile games


Depends
with the way MVP talk is heating up though and the KD-LJ mvp best player rivalry and OKC,MIA

they just might turn it up,

Miami has been playing lazy on defense this whole month,coasting games,playing without effort and haven't had a good month in JAN

They'll either turn it up or conserve energy and not expend until playoffs

As seen they're doing the SA,200S LAL type reg season so far

Miami have looked very unimpressive this season at times. Which is dangerous if they are just coasting. It can tend to backfire just going easy just because you are the champions. Certainly didn

[J Shuttlesworth]

I would say even if Durant gets outplayed head to head, it doesn't take away his MVP.

BTW, when are the OKC vs. Heat games? How is that not the Christmas day game? :biggums:

[Brokenbeat]

I wasted a #2 pick on LeBron in fantasy basketball this season. Dude is ranked #5 on the season, and his FT% is killing me (he said he was going to work on that before the season started too). I can't give LeBron the MVP since he's barely top 5 in fantasy basketball. FBB > real life, and that's a scientifical fact.

Durant is #1, but that was expected.

[Lebron23]

I wasted a #2 pick on LeBron in fantasy basketball this season. Dude is ranked #5 on the season, and his FT% is killing me (he said he was going to work on that before the season started too). I can't give LeBron the MVP since he's barely top 5 in fantasy basketball. FBB > real life, and that's a scientifical fact.

Durant is #1, but that was expected.


He's still 2nd in the league in scoring with almost 26.2. Let's see in the playoffs who's gonna win an NBA title this season. Lebron had plenty of memorable regular season and playoffs stats in Cleveland. Just check his stats.

[Flash31]

Miami have looked very unimpressive this season at times. Which is dangerous if they are just coasting. It can tend to backfire just going easy just because you are the champions. Certainly didn’t work in 2011.


it DID WORK in 2011

Just well LeBron and 2011 Finals happened

started 9-8 then finished
49-16

Beat the Bulls in 5,took care of Celtics

Wade was killing in Dallas series,Dallas couldn't stop Wade yet again
and Dirk was being contained again

yet LeBron was getting 1b touches and was 2nd option playing like a 6th man


And if you're talking about Lakers then well

LAL got old HARD
Gasol somehow lost it,Artest became a shell of himself,Bynum well bynum played on/off,
Odom just crapped out,
and Dallas exposed the biggest weakness of LAL,perimeter defense

Dallas went on a barrage of threes and JJ Barea tore them up


Miami can't afford to go hard anymore with trying to make a 4th finals straight,their players are aging,having minor to major injuries and
especially with the way teams played MIA last year especially during the STREAK

Teams were playing like it was game 7 in Finals against MIAMI EVERY GAME
Every team's season was basically BEAT Miami

and in the playoffs it nearly cost them with an injured Wade,a hobbled Bosh,a worn out Battier,Haslem

Mia is following the SA method
better players be healthy,welll rested and role players get their minutes,times sop when it's time to step up or needed they can go and can take stars load off,less stress and wear and tear on players

The BIG 3 are playing some of their lowest minutes ever and have lowest usage rates since rookie season,
They're utilizing cole,chalmer,allen more and keeping the ball less in LJ and DW hands,


MIA WOULD RATHER GET A GOOD SEED AND BE WELL RESTED THEN STRIVE FOR 1ST AND BE WORN OUT(

Hell look at Chi every year they went for best rec)They were done come playoff time,players were worn out,gassed,and it became a one man team,either Rose or Nate or Deng rather than collective unit like a SA

[k0kakw0rld]

Lebron can only win if KD gets hurt. :(
KD is no Stephen Curry lol LeBron is going to guard his ass.

[russwest0]

:oldlol: :oldlol: Flash31 having a meltdown

[ABG]

I would say even if Durant gets outplayed head to head, it doesn't take away his MVP.

BTW, when are the OKC vs. Heat games? How is that not the Christmas day game? :biggums:
january 29th and feburary 20th.

[SamuraiSWISH]

If LeBron beats KD in both games while putting up better stats. The MVP race gon' be good.
All I remember was LeBron DEMOLISHING him on X-Mas, and Valetines Day last year.

[leMVP]

Even if Lebron Dominated KD (Which usually happens), KD still wins this year's mvp, but it will be bitter tasted by him.

But if he beat Lebron badly in both meetings, Man...A finals matchup will be seeked by all bball fans and the league should fix it for sure.

[Flash31]

:oldlol: :oldlol: Flash31 having a meltdown


Im Really not

Where do you see a meltdown??

You must have me confused with a LeBron stan,
I'm just telling some things like they are


Though quick q to you,how many accounts you got here man?

[Brokenbeat]

He's still 2nd in the league in scoring with almost 26.2. Let's see in the playoffs who's gonna win an NBA title this season. Lebron had plenty of memorable regular season and playoffs stats in Cleveland. Just check his stats.


Lol, you thought I was serious.

This might sting though: Durant, A.Davis, Curry, and P.George will probably be drafted ahead of LeBron in FBB next season (maybe even K.Love if he stays healthy).

Durant will go first... again. :eek:

[Trollsmasher]

LeBron would have to completely obliterate Durant (like in their last game) to reverse the momentum.

The way they are both playing right now, I don't see it coming.

[Indian guy]

In the grand scheme of the MVP race, H2H match-ups are irrelevant. LeBron lost to Kobe in both meetings in '09. Everybody, particularly the fans, lost their sh!t and it somewhat halted LeBron's momentum in the short term, but didn't matter in the least in the long run. LeBron still handily won the MVP because of his superior play over the course of the season and maybe even more importantly, Cleveland had the best record in the NBA. As long as Durant leads OKC to a better win % than Miami, he'll win MVP. I do think that record's very important though, because unlike LeBron/Kobe, the statistical battle between LeBron/KD is still close. Thus, the upcoming meeting is VERY important for KD to maintain his momentum in the short run. Only 2 games separate Miami and OKC, and if LeBron outplays KD that day in a Miami W, then the narrative could begin to somewhat change IF Miami's record is either tied or better than OKC's on that day.

[Joyner82reload]

LeBron would have to completely obliterate Durant (like in their last game) to reverse the momentum.

The way they are both playing right now, I don't see it coming.

Where the hell do these clowns get off? In last years 2 matchups, LeBron averaged 34/10/8 68 TS%. Durant averaged 37/8/4 65.5 TS%. Ya, he totally got obliterated :rolleyes:

And before you go off on the assists, it should be noted

Game 1
Durant's teammates shot 38%
LeBron's teammates shot 43.3%

Game 2
Durant's teammates shot 40.8%
LeBron's teammates shot 44.4%

Also Durant wasn't the primary ball handler for OKC last year, nor was he near the player he is this year.

[Rose'sACL]

Where the hell do these clowns get off? In last years 2 matchups, LeBron averaged 34/10/8 68 TS%. Durant averaged 37/8/4 65.5 TS%. Ya, he totally got obliterated :rolleyes:

And before you go off on the assists, it should be noted

Game 1
Durant's teammates shot 38%
LeBron's teammates shot 43.3%

Game 2
Durant's teammates shot 40.8%
LeBron's teammates shot 44.4%

Also Durant wasn't the primary ball handler for OKC last year, nor was he near the player he is this year.
lebron is also sharing ball handling more this season with chalmers, cole and wade. Durant has surpassed lebron in USG% this year too. also, the guy you quoted made real sense.
He is saying that lebron would have to dominate durant by a lot in their match ups to have a chance to win MVP this season.
Your stats prove that lebron played better by a little stats wise in H2H games last season while winning more games and having better stats for whole season. If you actually watched the games then you would know that lebron absolutely dominated in one of those and made the result a foregone conclusion in early 4th quarter. that is the game he is talking about and anyone who watched that game(even people who hate lebron) would tell you that durant scored in 4th because weird calls were made. i think he was making only free throws in a little stretch and game slowed to a crawl. He shot 15 FTs and most of them came after heat had gone ahead by a lot.
also, lebron's team mates shooting well is not a bad thing given that you are saying that he was the main ball handler in those games.
Try to understand what others are posting before replying.

[Trollsmasher]

Where the hell do these clowns get off? In last years 2 matchups, LeBron averaged 34/10/8 68 TS%. Durant averaged 37/8/4 65.5 TS%. Ya, he totally got obliterated :rolleyes:

And before you go off on the assists, it should be noted

Game 1
Durant's teammates shot 38%
LeBron's teammates shot 43.3%

Game 2
Durant's teammates shot 40.8%
LeBron's teammates shot 44.4%

Also Durant wasn't the primary ball handler for OKC last year, nor was he near the player he is this year.
Check that last game and tell me your stats again, buddy:lol

Game was done after 3 quarters (20 point lead for Miami). LeBron had 30/10/6 on a great effiency while Durant had 18 on terrible shooting percentages and basically lost the game by himself. And yeah, LeBron guarded him for most of the night. Guy was totally shook. Then he statpadded his way for 22 points in 4th quarter garbage time, most of them on his classic BS FTs.

Anybody who saw that game saw Durant get destroyed. You ain't covering that:lol

[Joyner82reload]

lebron is also sharing ball handling more this season with chalmers, cole and wade. Durant has surpassed lebron in USG% this year too. also, the guy you quoted made real sense.
He is saying that lebron would have to dominate durant by a lot in their match ups to have a chance to win MVP this season.
Your stats prove that lebron played better by a little stats wise in H2H games last season while winning more games and having better stats for whole season. If you actually watched the games then you would know that lebron absolutely dominated in one of those and made the result a foregone conclusion in early 4th quarter. that is the game he is talking about and anyone who watched that game(even people who hate lebron) would tell you that durant scored in 4th because weird calls were made. i think he was making only free throws.
also, lebron's team mates shooting well is not a bad thing given that you are saying that he was the main ball handler in those games.
Try to understand what others are posting before replying.

He implied LeBron absolutely took a shit on Durant. That is completely false. And I was at that Valentines game, so obviously I watched it. LeBron played phenomenally, probably his best game ever again Durant outside of his first few seasons in the league. But it's not like Durant had no impact on the game and LeBron dominating Durant was the reason for the victory. Durant went 12-24 in that game and had a big 4th quarter that almost got OKC back within striking range.

As a matter of fact, Durant has been the only one that has vastly outplayed the other in a head to head matchup here recently

Durant 29/7/6 64 TS% vs LeBron 19/8/3 42.5 TS% in March 2011
and
Durant 28/9/8 63 TS% vs LeBron 17/3/7 46.1 TS% in March 2012

[Rose'sACL]

He implied LeBron absolutely took a shit on Durant. That is completely false. And I was at that Valentines game, so obviously I watched it. LeBron played phenomenally, probably his best game ever again Durant outside of his first few seasons in the league. But it's not like Durant had no impact on the game and LeBron dominating Durant was the reason for the victory. Durant went 12-24 in that game and had a big 4th quarter that almost got OKC back within striking range.

As a matter of fact, Durant has been the only one that has vastly outplayed the other in a head to head matchup here recently

Durant 29/7/6 64 TS% vs LeBron 19/8/3 42.5 TS% in March 2011
and
Durant 28/9/8 63 TS% vs LeBron 17/3/7 46.1 TS% in March 2012
lebron did shit on him in one game. i am not going to lie. I am the same guy who predicted that durant will be top 10 all time by the time he retires.
Watch the ****ing games. Game was over in 3 quarters.

[ArbitraryWater]

IF Heat&Thunder meet in Finals, LeBron will have to go into that series with the right attitude, and battle KD left and right, firing off punches/shots, getting it in on Defense, etc. can't be none of that passive passing shit, otherwise teammates will brick shots, see it coming, while Durant just lights LeBron up for 35+... the dude is hungry right now.

BUT, if LeBron goes in there with a scorer mentality himself, while playing great defense&playmaking, it has the potential for a GOAT series.

[Joyner82reload]

IF Heat&Thunder meet in Finals, LeBron will have to go into that series with the right attitude, and battle KD left and right, firing off punches/shots, getting it in on Defense, etc. can't be none of that passive passing shit, otherwise teammates will brick shots, see it coming, while Durant just lights LeBron up for 35+... the dude is hungry right now.

BUT, if LeBron goes in there with a scorer mentality himself, while playing great defense&playmaking, it has the potential for a GOAT series.

LeBron can't guard Durant at this current level, nobody can. Durant is just too tall and too skilled at this point, and will constantly find his sweet spots. George is the most suited player for guarding him and he just got lit up for 36/10/5 70 TS%

[Trollsmasher]

He implied LeBron absolutely took a shit on Durant. That is completely false. And I was at that Valentines game, so obviously I watched it. LeBron played phenomenally, probably his best game ever again Durant outside of his first few seasons in the league. But it's not like Durant had no impact on the game and LeBron dominating Durant was the reason for the victory. Durant went 12-24 in that game and had a big 4th quarter that almost got OKC back within striking range.
At the end of 3rd (the technical end of the game, not 4th quarter garbage time):
Heat 88 - 69 Thunder
LeBron - 30/11/6 with 3 TOs on 10/17
Durant - 18/6/3 with 4 TOs on 4/14

So yes, Durant had a tons of negative impact and LeBron completely outplaying him was the reason the Heat won.

And you try to throw stats from that game on me:lol

[AintNoSunshine]

I can't fukking wait!!!!!

KD's gonna light up Bron pretty bad I think, hope the Heat gets their shiit together and get the W

[ArbitraryWater]

durant on another level, give that man the mvp alrdy

lebrons season is cute tho

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[ArbitraryWater]

Im Really not

Where do you see a meltdown??

You must have me confused with a LeBron stan,
I'm just telling some things like they are


Though quick q to you,how many accounts you got here man?

I think he mistakens you or wants to stir it up. You always write like that.

[Hoopz2332]

tack on another win for LBJ vs the Servant:oldlol:

http://i.imgur.com/hmBOarc.jpg

[Cocaine80s]

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[JT123]

This is honestly getting embarrassing.
Is anyone is this league EVER going to challenge Lebron?! Kobe couldn't do it and now the supposed best scorer in basketball is failing even worse. :facepalm

[Magic 32]

This is honestly getting embarrassing.
Is anyone is this league EVER going to challenge Lebron?! Kobe couldn't do it and now the supposed best scorer in basketball is failing even worse. :facepalm



Nobody can challenge Lebron, he is the regular season king.

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