If Prime Jordan Still Played Today... [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

SHAQisGOAT

01-23-2014, 03:57 PM

The hype around him would be even bigger and some people's heads would literally blow up when looking at his highlights/runs/stats. Even more GOAT if that's even possible, even more overrated (yea he's GOAT but still overrated). Even more MVPs, more DPOY, more all-nba and all-defensive teams, more rings (with the right team, league's weaker than it was in the 80s/early 90s)

JimmyMcAdocious

01-23-2014, 03:58 PM

Poor man's Durant.

kobeef24

01-23-2014, 03:58 PM

30.2/6.5/5.1/2.5/0.6 47/33/85

lol how do people pull stats out of their ass and come up with such precise numbers.

Myth

01-23-2014, 04:00 PM

Finish this sentence.

I can't, you already did.

ArbitraryWater

01-23-2014, 04:01 PM

30.2/6.5/5.1/2.5/0.6 47/33/85

47% ...

:coleman:

kuniva_dAMiGhTy

01-23-2014, 04:02 PM

... he would be the second best player in the league.

Nah. He's definitely better than Durant.

Legends66NBA7

01-23-2014, 04:08 PM

Best scorer and best player in the game.

I could just imagine what he would be doing in the playoffs. Hypothetically speaking, he would be with the Bulls. Wonder how far he would take them ?

fpliii

01-23-2014, 04:10 PM

Well, he'd still put on muscle from working on Grover, since more defenses are playing a modified zone and will collapse on the drive (like the Pistons, and later Knicks, and to some extent Miami did back in the day).

I think he'd work on a 3pt shot too, but he might not have to, since Wade's done just fine without being a threat from downtown.

r15mohd

01-23-2014, 04:15 PM

he'd be a 2nd rounder, ECF at best, without Pippen and co.

Fazotronic

01-23-2014, 04:18 PM

young mike easly 20 FTA per game...

-23-

01-23-2014, 04:34 PM

Prime Mike would demolish the league today. Drop the 91-93 bulls into the league today, and they'd win 70 games.

r0drig0lac

01-23-2014, 04:59 PM

this weak league today without hand chek it would go 35ppp (at least 12ft) game after game

Riley Martin

01-23-2014, 05:06 PM

The East would be less shitty and the Pacers-Bulls ECF would be exciting.

knicksman

01-23-2014, 05:38 PM

close level to durant

oarabbus

01-23-2014, 05:42 PM

If MJ played today he would be overshadowed by Kevin Durant.

Angel Face

01-23-2014, 10:02 PM

40ppg on 60% fg :bowdown:

kamil

01-23-2014, 10:06 PM

Jordan would have a field day...

SpecialQue

01-23-2014, 10:07 PM

Wait, does he still have prime Pippen and Jackson?

SamuraiSWISH

01-23-2014, 10:11 PM

'90 - '93 Prime Jordan in today's NBA?

On a championship team w/ talent:
34 ppg, 6 rpg, 6 apg, 3 spg on 60% FG

On a bad team, little talent, heavy lifting:
40 ppg, 7 rpg, 7 apg, 3 spg on 52% FG

Mr.Kite

01-23-2014, 10:16 PM

Lebron will be his pippen

kuniva_dAMiGhTy

01-23-2014, 10:18 PM

'90 - '93 Prime Jordan in today's NBA?

On a championship team w/ talent:
34 ppg, 6 rpg, 6 apg, 3 spg on 60% FG

On a bad team, little talent, heavy lifting:
40 ppg, 7 rpg, 7 apg, 3 spg on 52% FG

Yep. Not totally sure Mike averages 40ppg, although he'd get close. Under todays lax perimeter rules it'd be easy pickings.

plowking

01-23-2014, 10:21 PM

DatAsh

01-23-2014, 10:40 PM

he'd get a lot more freethrows.

SamuraiSWISH

01-23-2014, 10:43 PM

He wouldn't crack 55% let alone 60%. :oldlol:
He'd easily be able to crack 55% given his skill set, driving ability, jumper, and the totally nonchalant perimeter defensive rule in the current league. He wouldn't even be cherry picking to do it, either like some folks. He wouldn't shy away from shots to pad the percentages. MJ was proven to be efficient and dominant. LeBron would be begging to be his Pippen.

Yep. Not totally sure Mike averages 40ppg, although he'd get close.
On a non championship competing team, doing heavy lifting? He put up 37 ppg in his 3rd season ... and he wasn't even close to the perfect storm that was prime Jordan from 1990 - 1993. Kobe put up 35 ppg in his prime on a bad team. You don't think that sounds plausible MJ in his prime, today, could get to 40 ppg?

kuniva_dAMiGhTy

01-23-2014, 10:48 PM

He'd easily be able to crack 55% given his skill set, driving ability, jumper, and the totally nonchalant perimeter defensive rule in the current league. He wouldn't even be cherry picking to do it, either like some folks. He wouldn't shy away from shots to pad the percentages. MJ was proven to be efficient and dominant. LeBron would be begging to be his Pippen.

On a non championship competing team, doing heavy lifting? He put up 37 ppg in his 3rd season ... and he wasn't even close to the perfect storm that was prime Jordan from 1990 - 1993. Kobe put up 35 ppg in his prime on a bad team. You don't think that sounds plausible MJ in his prime, today, could get to 40 ppg?

Dude would be exhausted by the time he carried said team into the playoffs. Just don't see it, though, its plausible.

I do agree that he's shooting anywhere between 55-60%. Mike would flat-out be unstoppable w/ these rules. My God.

sekachu

01-23-2014, 11:35 PM

Finish this sentence.

Lebron would be another Clyde drexeler or Grant hill, wade another Penny Hardaway, Durant another either karl Malone or Patrick ewing.

GoranDragon

01-23-2014, 11:36 PM

he wouldn't get past MIA because no Scottie Pippen and Dennis Rodman.

Boarder Patrol

01-23-2014, 11:49 PM

34/8/5 on 50/33/85

Linspired

01-24-2014, 12:33 AM

With dantoni 42/
6/6

With thibs 38/6/7

55fg

riseagainst

01-24-2014, 12:43 AM

... he would be the second best player in the league.

:roll:

JebronLames

01-24-2014, 12:43 AM

28-6-5 52/33/84

c5terror

01-24-2014, 12:44 AM

he wouldn't get past MIA because no Scottie Pippen and Dennis Rodman.

Yeah, but he'll get Noah, boozer, and rose + role player lol. Plus i'm pretty sure he would make another pippen defending machine even though not as good as pippen. Why? There's 2 reason why Pippen became an ultimate defender. 1. Athleticism 2. He got the luxury to practice with MJ the best offensive scorer of alltime.

That's what prime MJ can bring to the table beside from 30+ppg,3spg and offensive boards.

Your primary defender could practice with him every time just like when pippen join the bulls, pippen developed his defense because he got to practice with MJ. MJ teach him some of his craftiness, what we call back then "The invisible foul." that's the reason why MJ is the 3rd alltime leader in steal.

SamuraiSWISH

01-24-2014, 02:34 AM

MJ would help transform Jimmy Butler into a legit sidekick, by kicking his ass and imprinting his basketball DNA onto his game every day in practice. The same way he helped develop, transform a young, fragile, albeit athletic Scottie Pippen.

Prime MJ on current Bulls?

Hinrich / Augustine
MJ
Butler / Dunleavy
Gibson / Boozer
Noah

Pretty sure that squad can at least beat Indiana. Possibly even the Heat depending on if Butler locks up LeBron in a playoff series again, and Wade is hurt or chokes like he normally does against his home town team.

AnaheimLakers24

01-24-2014, 02:37 AM

him an kobe would be the only players talked about

Milbuck

01-24-2014, 02:44 AM

:oldlol:
Jordan has put up 35ppg, 33ppg, and 32ppg on 54% shooting in a much tougher defensive era. Anyone who seriously thinks prime Jordan couldn't crack 55% in today's era is ****ing delusional.

Anyways, I'd go with something like 33/6/6 on a championship team, or 38/6/5 on a garbage roster.

SamuraiSWISH

01-24-2014, 02:55 AM

Jordan has put up 35ppg, 33ppg, and 32ppg on 54% shooting in a much tougher defensive era. Anyone who seriously thinks prime Jordan couldn't crack 55% in today's era is delusional.
:applause:

nashwade

01-24-2014, 02:57 AM

... people will realise how far ahead he is in front of Kobe, KD and LBJ

nashwade

01-24-2014, 02:58 AM

Yeah, but he'll get Noah, boozer, and rose + role player lol. Plus i'm pretty sure he would make another pippen defending machine even though not as good as pippen. Why? There's 2 reason why Pippen became an ultimate defender. 1. Athleticism 2. He got the luxury to practice with MJ the best offensive scorer of alltime.

That's what prime MJ can bring to the table beside from 30+ppg,3spg and offensive boards.

Your primary defender could practice with him every time just like when pippen join the bulls, pippen developed his defense because he got to practice with MJ. MJ teach him some of his craftiness, what we call back then "The invisible foul." that's the reason why MJ is the 3rd alltime leader in steal.

Bulls not getting first round pick #1 if MJ is on the squad.

No Rose, sorry. (not that it matters now)

c5terror

01-24-2014, 05:25 AM

Bulls not getting first round pick #1 if MJ is on the squad.

No Rose, sorry. (not that it matters now)

i'm not sure, OP said today, meaning Today's bulls not preRose bulls. Rose is out, but rose doesn't need to be the rose we new as long as MJ is there. Rose can be 6thman when he comes back.

talkingconch

01-24-2014, 05:49 AM

dont know

what year is he drafted? if hes in the draft in the top 10, then somebodies out? Whos that somebody?

is rose on the team with him on the Bulls?

If hes just in his prime right now and on the bulls with everyone except Rose, then yeah hes a top 3 player probably top 2

BrownEye007

01-24-2014, 05:52 AM

My pants would be really wet right now.

Asukal

01-24-2014, 07:16 AM

Everybody will be on his d!ck. :rockon:

Marlo_Stanfield

01-24-2014, 08:02 AM

he would be the second best player after LeBron but would get shut down by LEBrons strenght and superior athleticism.
he could get hot and score high even on bron if he gets them fadeaways going tho:applause:

OldSchoolBBall

01-24-2014, 08:16 AM

He would be clearly the best player in the league. Yes, clearly.

~33/6+/6+/3/1+/52+% FG/60+% TS on a good team and 35-37/6+/5.5+/3/1+/50-51% FG/58+% TS on a poor team.

r0drig0lac

01-24-2014, 08:45 AM

atljonesbro

01-24-2014, 08:51 AM

His stats would not magically increase and he'd struggle vs zones unless he develops a better jumper

poido123

01-24-2014, 09:00 AM

Pretty sure prime Jordan would love to play in today's league. He won't have to contend with handchecking, extreme physicality, so I'd imagine his averages would be that much better.

diamenz

01-24-2014, 09:51 AM

...lebron would have to join a west team for any hope of even seeing a finals

also,

the nba would become popular again.

SamuraiSWISH

01-24-2014, 09:59 AM

His stats would not magically increase and he'd struggle vs zones unless he develops a better jumper
Jordan is the best mid range shooter of the lot consisting of Kobe, Bron, KD. Moves better off the ball, better catch and shoot, better pass cut away player than all of them, superior / quicker at reading defenses. He'd slice up a zone just like he did in college, or the '84 Olympics at a young age. So he wouldn't struggle at the soft zones of todays league one bit.

poido123

01-24-2014, 09:59 AM

...lebron would have to join a west team for any hope of even seeing a finals

also,

the nba would become popular again.

:cheers:

It still is, but more popular no doubt.

c5terror

01-24-2014, 11:58 AM

His stats would not magically increase and he'd struggle vs zones unless he develops a better jumper

Do you mean? 2-3, 3-2 zone? It was played back in the 80's 90's. You just can't double player without the ball.

a rusty 40year old inured leg jordan manage to get 20ppg 44FG% in 2002 zone what do you think a prime jordan would do if he played that time.

Today zone, won't even affect jordan, because he will be the best off the ball player today. Meaning he has the ability to score without even dribbling ball.

jumper? Jordan is know for his midrange. most of his game winners came from midrange.

His footwork is par with Hakeem if not better, did you see his postmove?
His post move can break anyone's ankle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfSftZvpHJg

Even kobe can't copy some of it.

redhonda76

01-24-2014, 12:08 PM

Let me see.... Jordan avg 30+ against handchecking rules, physically defense, much more fundamentally sounded players, man-to-man defense.........

I can't imagine him playing at this era......

TheMan

01-24-2014, 12:36 PM

...today's LeBron stans would be Jordan jockers because they would clearly see MJ as the superior player.

riseagainst

01-24-2014, 12:37 PM

...today's LeBron stans would be Jordan jockers because they would clearly see MJ as the superior player.

:lol

MJ would avg 35-8-8 easily while coasting.

If he plays serious. 40-9-9 wouldnt be outta the question.

sodapop

01-24-2014, 01:14 PM

NBA scoring champ back to back, defensive player of the year back to back, break Wilt Chamberlain 100 point record against Miami, 35.5 points per game minimum, most nights average 50+ points per game, NBA steals leader every year, 10 time MVP, 9x finals MVP, 6 more championship rings to add to his 6.

scm5

01-24-2014, 01:28 PM

The NBA would be so ridiculous...

Durant, Lebron, CP3... then you had Kobe doing what he did up until last year.

It would be the greatest era for perimeter players and Jordan would be the best of all of them.

I would expect something like: 35/7/7 on 54% FG

Dragonyeuw

01-24-2014, 06:17 PM

His stats would not magically increase and he'd struggle vs zones unless he develops a better jumper

So you got someone like D-wade, who when healthy is one of the elite shooting guards in this era with a jumpshot that comes and goes season by season. And yet Jordan, bigger and stronger, better finisher and equally adept slasher, with one of the best midrange games over, great off the ball, is going to struggle against the zone??!!:biggums:

SamuraiSWISH

01-24-2014, 08:11 PM

So you got someone like D-wade, who when healthy is one of the elite shooting guards in this era with a jumpshot that comes and goes season by season. And yet Jordan, bigger and stronger, better finisher and equally adept slasher, with one of the best midrange games over, great off the ball, is going to struggle against the zone??!!:biggums:
PowerGlove / RaininTwos gone full retard on a player that didn't ball from 2000 and beyond yet again. He's always been an acknowledged hater from anything that existed before he was born in 2000.