Is Lebron the greatest drive to the basket lay-uper of all time?

[navy]

I think he is.

*upper*

[knicksman]

yes..

but not against diaw

[Olacinco]

D Rose>>Lebron
WBrook>>Lebron
Ginoblli>>Lebron

Those are just current players doe

[sbw19]

Current era with new rules it's a tie between him and Wade. All time he's easily among the best.

[navy]

D Rose>>Lebron
WBrook>>Lebron
Ginoblli>>Lebron

Those are just current players doe

Is this a joke? :oldlol:

[K Xerxes]

He's possibly the best at driving to the hoop and creating a play (passing or scoring), especially when surrounded by shooters. His athleticism + size + court vision make him unique in this regard.

It's really the only thing he has a claim at for being the best ever. Not that it's particularly important as he's an all rounded player.

[navy]

Current era with new rules it's a tie between him and Wade. All time he's easily among the best.


Yep, Wade was great too.

[navy]

He's possibly the best at driving to the hoop and creating a play (passing or scoring), especially when surrounded by shooters. His athleticism + size + court vision make him unique in this regard.

It's really the only thing he has a claim at for being the best ever. Not that it's particularly important as he's an all rounded player.

Im just talking about driving and layupping. I suppose you could include dunking, but then it would be more about the best dunker, which he is not.

[Boarder Patrol]

This is what we're reduced to calling LeBron the best at now?

Like a first grader being the best at tying his shoes.

[Solefade]

arguably the best finisher the game..especially in transition

[KyrieTheFuture]

Kobe will always be the best penetrator of all time. Even when you don't want it, he just forces his way into the hole and finishes. Right in your face.

[JamiesChrist]

Prime Wade>>>>anyone

[Ancient Legend]

Michael Jordan is the best. You forget the insane amount of difficult layups he got in the 80's.

Derrick Rose was also better at contorting his body and making the shots. So was Iverson, and probably Monta Ellis/Kevin Johnson.

[riseagainst]

Kobe will always be the best penetrator of all time. Even when you don't want it, he just forces his way into the hole and finishes. Right in your face.

:roll:

[SilkkTheShocker]

Yes.

[Solefade]

Michael Jordan is the best. You forget the insane amount of difficult layups he got in the 80's.

Derrick Rose was also better at contorting his body and making the shots. So was Iverson, and probably Monta Wllis/Kevin Johnson.


just because it's prettier and more acrobatic doesn't mean it's more effective :facepalm



260 6'8 with 4x4 speed with the touch that lebron has >>>>>>

[Boarder Patrol]

This is what we're reduced to calling LeBron the best at now?

Like a first grader being the best at tying his shoes.

Future repped :applause:

[Boarder Patrol]

Future repped :applause:

WTF is this kid talking to himself for?

[K Xerxes]

Im just talking about driving and layupping. I suppose you could include dunking, but then it would be more about the best dunker, which he is not.

MJ at his athletic peak was better than LeBron at this.

Hell, compared to his 09-10 self, LeBron isn't really anywhere near as good at driving now. He sacrificed some athleticism for strength (which makes sense), but he used to be near unstoppable going to hole. He struggles taking quicker defenders off the dribble and needs multiple screens now.

MJ was better in this regard (quicker, more flexible) which is why I included the passing aspect. Lebron's court vision is better than MJ's, which means he has a case for being the best ever driver & passer/finisher. But he's not the best driver and finisher.

[riseagainst]

WTF is this kid talking to himself for?

:applause:
future repped.

[SilkkTheShocker]

MJ at his athletic peak was better than LeBron at this.

Hell, compared to his 09-10 self, LeBron isn't really anywhere near as good at driving now. He sacrificed some athleticism for strength (which makes sense), but he used to be near unstoppable going to hole. He struggles taking quicker defenders off the dribble and needs multiple screens now.

MJ was better in this regard (quicker, more flexible) which is why I included the passing aspect. Lebron's court vision is better than MJ's, which means he has a case for being the best ever driver & passer/finisher. But he's not the best driver and finisher.

LeBron is the best at finishing at the rim ever.

[riseagainst]

can anyone find stats for finishing at the rim for MJ, Lebron, Kobe, etc?
Career wise and/or peak season wise.

[SilkkTheShocker]

can anyone find stats for finishing at the rim for MJ, Lebron, Kobe, etc?
Career wise and/or peak season wise.

Just looked them up. LeBron was the best.

[Solefade]

MJ at his athletic peak was better than LeBron at this.

Hell, compared to his 09-10 self, LeBron isn't really anywhere near as good at driving now. He sacrificed some athleticism for strength (which makes sense), but he used to be near unstoppable going to hole. He struggles taking quicker defenders off the dribble and needs multiple screens now.

MJ was better in this regard (quicker, more flexible) which is why I included the passing aspect. Lebron's court vision is better than MJ's, which means he has a case for being the best ever driver & passer/finisher. But he's not the best driver and finisher.

Jordan was definitely more athletic at his peak pound for pound. But we've never seen anything that came close to combination of size/speed/skill like Lebron...it's arguable though.

[riseagainst]

Just looked them up. LeBron was the best.

post links or you are just a fakkit.

[nathanjizzle]

derrick rose has the best layup package in the game
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/4692164/derrick-rose-goes-fullcourt-in-2-dribbles-o.gif
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/3277519/derrick-rose-ovs-tim-duncan-o.gif
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/3277532/d-rose-over-duncan-4-o.gif
http://gifsoup.com/MzI3NzUxOQ

[Mr.Kite]

A little hand checking and this is the end result


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/files/2013/02/kblb1.jpg

i'm going to say no.

[GOATbe]

A little hand checking and this is the end result


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/files/2013/02/kblb1.jpg

i'm going to say no.
:roll: :rockon: :roll:

[fsvr54]

Rod strickland

[Mr.Kite]

Current era with new rules it's a tie between him and Wade. All time he's easily among the best.


Wade has the most phantom calls I have seen in my life. People are scared to even defend him when he drives.

[9512]

Maybe not all time but Tony Parker is a great lay up finisher. He doesn't have uber athleticism or vertical explosion but he's crafty and has great horizontal speed.

[Angel Face]

Son, I'm disappointed. You have Air Jordan avatar and you don't know who the best lay-upper of all time is.

[ninephive]

Tp >>>

[BrownEye007]

Maybe not all time but Tony Parker is a great lay up finisher. He doesn't have uber athleticism or vertical explosion but he's crafty and has great horizontal speed.
I remember in the finals between the Cavs and Spurs it was like he Tony couldn't miss a layup. He made multiple shot where he just dove forward and tossed the ball up but still somehow managed to get them in.

[Micku]

He might be, but I don't know. We don't know the stats for the other players on drives. I think LeBron is among the all time finishers tho. He's the best in our era.

At the moment, Tony Parker is epic at it as well. Durant and Wade are too. Jeremy Lin is one of the tops this season as well, surprisingly.

But with all time: I would assume you would have to put Jordan, Barkley, James Worthy, and Adrian Dantley up there.

[Prometheus]

If you mean "Is LeBron the greatest at making layups taken while driving to the basket?" and you aren't considering how good he is at driving to the basket in the first place, then I believe it's possible. However, if you're also including the ability to get to the basket itself, then the answer is no. Despite his overwhelming athleticism in other regards, he simply does not have a very quick first step, and this has always limited his ability to drive to the basket (which is still world class, just not GOAT-worthy).

[GoranDragon]

MJ then Lebron 2nd.

[lpublic_enemyl]

Kobe will always be the best penetrator of all time. Even when you don't want it, he just forces his way into the hole and finishes. Right in your face.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[moe94]

Kobe will always be the best penetrator of all time. Even when you don't want it, he just forces his way into the hole and finishes. Right in your face.

GOAT post

[LongLiveTheKing]

derrick rose has the best layup package in the game
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/4692164/derrick-rose-goes-fullcourt-in-2-dribbles-o.gif
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/3277519/derrick-rose-ovs-tim-duncan-o.gif
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/3277532/d-rose-over-duncan-4-o.gif
http://gifsoup.com/MzI3NzUxOQ
http://i.minus.com/ijAeB8c3uybWU.gif

[moe94]

http://i.minus.com/ijAeB8c3uybWU.gif
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/2113610/rose-layup-over-lebron-wade-o.gif